My Non-Holiday Boxing Wishlist
Wishlists are not an uncommon feature in sports writing, but usually they happen around some holiday. "Christmas Wishlist for Boxing" pops up somewhere every year. Me? Late March. I'm a rebel, baby.
By the way, I'm going to update the picks contest stuff sometime in the next few days. I'm not going to have anyone do any picks for this weekend, even though Chambers-Peter is an interesting fight on Friday and Arum's got the Top Rank PPV on Saturday. BLH is skipping the Top Rank PPV, for the record. I'm not paying for Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. -- I was considering it when the initial card looked stronger (with Canchila-Segura II), but not anymore.
1. I wish people would stop talking about Roy Jones Jr. and Anderson Silva fighting already
Here's the thing: I know how this fight plays out. So do you. So does everyone. If it's boxing, Roy beats Anderson. If it's MMA, Anderson beats Roy. It will be boxing because Silva is confident in his boxing skills. He's excellent for an MMA guy; that's not a slap in the face to MMA, it's just the God's honest truth. I don't think there is a single boxer in the world that could cross over to MMA and be successful immediately against legit competition, and it goes both ways. People keep talking about this fight like it's a huge deal. It's not. It's another patented Roy Ploy: Take a fight you should absolutely win and market it to be a bigger deal than it is. People have stopped buying Jones. Yes, he has his fans that will always go, "Roy is back, baby!" but they're loons. They're Roy Jones superfans that refuse to see the enormous decline in skill he's undergone in the last few years.
Silva says he'd like to do the fight (that it's a done deal) whenever his UFC contract is up and he retires from MMA. Roy's already 40.
2. I wish Monte Cox would buzz off
If you haven't yet heard, the New Jersey State Athletic Commission has refused to sanction the proposed boxing match between former UFC heavyweight champ Tim Sylvia and 47-year old Ray Mercer. Thank God, and all respect to the NJSAC for telling everyone involved "no" on this absurd venture. Cox says he'll shop the fight elsewhere. Hey, I'm sure Texas or West Virginia would sanction it. Maybe we can get a Tommy Morrison-Evander Holyfield fight on the undercard, too.
3. I wish Israel Vazquez would receive a clean bill of health
I'll admit it: I miss Izzy. He's my favorite fighter in the sport. I get the sinking feeling we'll never see him compete again, and if we do, he'll be but a shell of the action fighter of the decade that he's been. We've yet to even begin to fathom the physical toll that the Vazquez-Marquez series took on both fighters.
4. I wish I was more confident that Paul Williams will beat Winky Wright
I have nothing in the world against Winky Wright. In fact, I'm a fan of Winky Wright. But boxing would be better off if 27-year old Paul Williams emphatically defeated 37-year old Winky Wright on April 11. But even with ring rust after 21 months off by the time he fights Williams, Winky Wright can't be counted out. He's too savvy, too good defensively, too smart. He takes a great punch. He won't be grossly undersized against Williams, either, the way Verno Phillips and all those welterweights (sans Margarito) were.
5. I wish for the Lucian Bute-Librado Andrade rematch
Again, I like both guys, and I freaked out as much as anyone at the finish of their first fight. But when all was said and done, my problem was more with refereen Marlon B. Wright's abysmal handling of the situation. Bute was up and that's all he needed to be. There are a lot of things you can argue, but I don't think one of them is that Andrade was robbed. I hope they rematch because it'll close the case. Bute, honestly, is way too skilled for Andrade, who is one of my favorite fighters to watch because he can lose 12 rounds and make it entertaining. Bute might be the best 168-pound fighter in the world right now; I'd still put Kessler a notch ahead of him, but that gap is closing fast. Still, he's got the Andrade thing picking at his reputation. Fix it. If Andrade beats Vitali Tsypko on April 4 (and that's no guarantee), he's Bute's mandatory. Make it happen.
6. I wish the Klitschkos would just fight each other and get it over with
I'm not serious. More accurately, I wish the Klitschkos weren't brothers and we could settle this thing.
7. I wish the Khan-Barrera debate would rest, even if totally valid
Don King has filed a protest over the Khan-Barrera fight and wants a rematch. Why? So Barrera can get his head knocked off? I think the Don has a valid point. The fight should have been stopped sooner than it was. That gash was God awful and was not going to get any better. But watching the two of them match up, even with Barrera somewhat handicapped, does anyone think Marco Antonio really has a shot at beating a huge lightweight with that sort of power and speed?
But about his point: It's a good one. The doctors and referees are there to protect fighters, even if that means protect them from themselves. Barrera wouldn't quit if someone hit him with a shovel. He was not going to say he couldn't fight on. His corner probably held much the same views, and also figured they might tap Khan's chin before the officials could stop it.
If you give me a Khan-Barrera rematch, I know what happens. Khan overwhelms him. At some point Barrera goes down hard. He's not big enough, fast enough, strong enough, or good enough anymore to chop Khan down. I have absolutely no interest in seeing them fight again.
8. I wish the top tier of the sport would break up somewhat
Let's look at it like this:
Pacquiao is fighting Hatton
Guys Who Supposedly Want the Winner: Floyd Mayweather, Shane Mosley, Miguel Cotto, Juan Manuel Marquez
Guys Who Want Floyd: Mosley, Cotto, Marquez, Hatton, Pacquiao
Guys Who Want Mosley: Pacquiao, Hatton, Cotto
Guys Who Want Cotto: Mosley, Pacquiao, Hatton
Guys Who Floyd Wants: Hatton, Pacquiao, Marquez?, (Tune-Up)
It's getting downright incestuous.
9. I wish Bernard Hopkins would show the sport as much respect as it has shown him
Bernard Hopkins is fond of remembering all the times he's been screwed over, or all the times he thinks he's been screwed over. He'll remind you of them every chance he gets. But how about the last decade or so, with Hopkins one of the top fighters in the sport, shown great respect, paid handsomely, and in a position of power as a promoter with Golden Boy? What's he given back?
I applauded B-Hop for fighting Calzaghe last year, fighting and demolishing Pavlik after that, and then saying he'd love to take on Tomasz Adamek. I was fooled.
Same as I'll never say I count Bernard out again, I'll never say I believe Hopkins has turned a corner. Offering Adamek a flat fee of $500,000 for a fight is ludicrous, and Hopkins and Golden Boy know it. Same ol' Bernard: Great fighter, total prick. I have all the respect in the world for him, but the man has come off like a jerk for the 10,000th time. Either that or a guy who got cold feet about the idea.
10. I wish for boxing to keep staying "local"
The Marquez-Diaz fight in Houston set an all-time Texas record for money in boxing. The Margarito-Mosley fight in Los Angeles set the all-time Staples Center attendance record. Adamek has been drawing big houses in Newark for fights with Steve Cunningham and Johnathon Banks, not exactly marquee stars. Lucian Bute could sell out the Bell Centre in Montreal if he fought anyone on this blog. Nate Campbell and Roy Jones did decent houses in Florida, all things considered.
Boxing doesn't belong to Las Vegas and the casinos. The people have spoken loudly when give the chance. They'll turn out for the fights if you make it affordable, and then everyone makes money. Go figure.
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Hahah… downright “incestuous” . that’ sthe best. are those guys REALLY gunning for mosley? Just curious, b/c no one has called him out that i know, but i hope so! that guy deserves 2-3 more money fights, and a farewell fight agst. Omar Sheika! Wow! mosley still , still has that handspeed at 39! it’s amazing! :)
regarding Israel Vazquez
There has been talk here this week that he could be lining up a fight with Dunne in vegas.
That would be a fantastic fight
And a winnable fight for Vasquez, even if he’s severely faded after the trilogy. I don’t know if Vegas makes sense though. It should really be somewhere like Chicago, where there are sizable Mexican and Irish populations.
Vogt early, Vogt often.
Is King trying to get the first one called a NC?
Or just get a rematch for Barrera?
Does the fact a boxer doesn't switch weight divisions during their career detract from their overall P4P ranking?
Cos I'd take Hagler over most heavies in history, P4P, and also over "6 weight world champion" Oscar De La Hoya, and Marvellous Marvin never really messed about with his weight, did he?
both I guess
He has to know the former is highly unlikely (like 99.99999% chance it will not be overturned) but if he can make enough of a stink he might get MAB another payday out of it.
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
by Scott Christ on Mar 26, 2009 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions
8. I wish the top tier of the sport would break up somewhat
Let’s look at it like this:
Pacquiao is fighting Hatton
Guys Who Supposedly Want the Winner: Floyd Mayweather, Shane Mosley, Miguel Cotto, Juan Manuel Marquez
Guys Who Want Floyd: Mosley, Cotto, Marquez, Hatton, Pacquiao
Guys Who Want Mosley: Pacquiao, Hatton, Cotto
Guys Who Want Cotto: Mosley, Pacquiao, Hatton
Guys Who Floyd Wants: Hatton, Pacquiao, Marquez?, (Tune-Up)
It’s getting downright incestuous.
Solution: Let them do a tournament with the hbo 24/7 thing hyping up the fights. Drag it out over a couple months. Make gazillions and we see whos the best.
I agree on Hopkins. He’s done a great job of playing ‘nobody gives me any respect’ but it’s not true anymore and hasn’t been since around the time he KO’d Trinidad. I think the inverse is true: he gets as much respect as anyone in the game.
Also, DLH has helped him transition into the promotional end of the sport, something only the most respected fighters even have a chance at.
I think the situation with Adamek is likely more what you posited: ’Hop’s a little uneasy fighting Adamek’. I’d still take Hop, but that is the absolute wrong fight for him to get old in. Plus, getting caught once with an Adamek straight right could show some limit to Hop’s chin. Adamek is certainly a bigger puncher than Pav, and I think he’s a cleaner puncher as well. That straight right is so straight, short and pure, Hop may see something there he doesn’t like.
I honestly think this was just a counter offer to insult Adamek
because honestly if I’m Hopkins and Adamek makes me an offer where he is getting the lions share I’d be insulted to the point where i’d insult him back. Adamek is good but who the hell does he think he is trying to get a 60 – 40 split against a living legend and a guy that I currently have around top 20 ALL TIME. I think this will come back to the table.
As for Hopkins chin… Who knows, he could be like Toney for all we know and take shots from middle to heavy without being badly hurt.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Mar 27, 2009 3:31 AM EDT up reply actions
Adamek is good but who the hell does he think he is trying to get a 60 – 40 split against a living legend and a guy that I currently have around top 20 ALL TIME.
Let me say this with all due respect to Hopkins: Adamek probably though, “I’m the champion who will bring at least half the live gate in.” Hopkins is no star attraction and never has been. To be completely honest, 60-40 is unrealistic, but when you go past the fact that Bernard Hopkins is famous and a middleweight great for the ages, it’s really not that unreasonable. It’s nowhere close to as stupid as a flat fee of $500,000.
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
by Scott Christ on Mar 27, 2009 4:53 AM EDT up reply actions
I think had Adamek not insulted Hopkins with his offer
You would have seen a real offer from Hopkins. And I also believe Hopkins drawing power is increasing rather than decreasing. Would you have even paid to see this fight before the straight ass beating Hopkins put on Kelly Pavlik? I’m not buying it to watch Adamek I’m buying to see if Hopkins can somehow do it again. He is the modern day Archie Moore.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Mar 27, 2009 6:11 AM EDT up reply actions
Would you have even paid to see this fight before the straight ass beating Hopkins put on Kelly Pavlik?
Well there are two ways for me to answer this:
1. Yes. I bought Hopkins-Pavlik after sitting through butt-ugly Hopkins-Calzaghe. I buy basically all the big fights.
2. Let’s say it’s not me PERSONALLY, because I’m not the average bear whenit comes to PPV buying. Then maybe I wouldn’t buy this anyway, because Hopkins still isn’t exciting and who the hell is Tomasz Adamek?
And I also believe Hopkins drawing power is increasing rather than decreasing.
This is completely unproven, though. He hasn’t fought since the Pavlik fight, which did horrible PPV numbers. Everyone talks big about fighters right after a great win, but that doesn’t mean their next fight sells.
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
by Scott Christ on Mar 27, 2009 6:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Nobody bought the Pavlik Hopkins fight (aside from me and I bought Hopkins Tarver also)
because people were talking like Hopkins was going to get slaughters after Joe Slappy beat him. (I think that speaks for just how great Joe C is… Sadly I don’t think he’ll ever get his true due.) 2 out of 3 times Hopkins has proved the doubters wrong. And against Tarver and Pavlik it was in emphatic fashion each time. I guarantee you I will be watching if he steps up again.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Mar 28, 2009 7:10 AM EDT up reply actions
Nobody bought it because Hopkins is not a star and doesn’t make for exciting fights and Pavlik is still relatively unknown. I’m not saying Pavlik is some huge star either, but Hopkins has been around for years. His fights don’t sell. The Calzaghe fight did crap ratings too.
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
by Scott Christ on Mar 29, 2009 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions
I wish David Haye would beat a Klitschko .
I wish Barrera, Oscar, Jones, and most importantly, Holyfield would permanently retire.
I wish for Hatton to never wear that stupid-ass hat again.
I wish that Mayweather, upon his return, will stick around for a while and take some tough fights.
I wish for Mosley to show the same timelessness that Hopkins has.
I wish for Antonio Margarito to go away and stay away, and I wish for Bob Arum to STFU.
I wish for Lennox to quit saying stupid shit while commentating.
I wish HBO and Showtime would sell cheap direct streams of their fights.
I wish good health for all boxers.
I wish I was a little bit taller
I wish I was a baller
I wish I had a girl with the goods, I would call her
I wish I had a rabbit in a hat and a bat and a ’64 Impala
Vogt early, Vogt often.
That's why it's called a wish list dude.
"Count on us! We sponsored Margarito for several years." - CEMEX [Mexico's largest cement company.]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=icr0eW1fRSs
"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."
I wish for Hatton to never wear that stupid-ass hat again.
Seconded.
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
by Scott Christ on Mar 26, 2009 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Ya know...
Even I’m willing to throw a thirded in on this one. The hat’s no good, Ricky.
by Hatton_Wonderland on Mar 26, 2009 8:18 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't know about Ricky's hat...
But I know I wanna see Ouma wearing the I (heart) Larry Merchant hat again.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Mar 27, 2009 3:34 AM EDT up reply actions
-Winky to me is like B-Hop…whenever I speak against him, or think he’ll turn old on me in the ring…he turns in a miraculous performance. I will never count that guy out.
-The Mercer/Sylvia fight is a joke, as is Monte Cox being angry that the fight wasn’t sanctioned. I’m all for a fighter doing what he’s gotta do to pay the bills, but I see Sylvia not being the same after this one.
- Israel is sorely missed and that fight (the series total actually) were brutal to watch.
Gatti. Dekkers. Pele. Aoki. Kang. Vanderlei.
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by theworldsoldestsport on Mar 26, 2009 3:30 PM EDT reply actions
Margarito Handwraps?
I know this is off topic, but when do we find out about the Marga-cheato handwraps? Do we have to wait ALL the way to the middle of March for the results?
It's well past the middle
It happens when it happens. That mid-March thing was just a rough estimate.
"I want to see ocean. I want to see black people. I want to see palms." - Wladimir Klitschko
I know, i was being sarcastic. But still, enough already, give us our f’n info CSAC! Anyways, til the middle of march rolls around, we’ll have to wait on Margie.
Margo update!
LA times reports:
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/sports_blog/2009/03/margarito-wraps.html
Ok, so what next?
I read elsewhere that they quietly closed the investigation with no further action
but it wasn’t from a reliable source. I suppose someone could contact CSAC to check.
Vogt early, Vogt often.
Doubtful
Its not just CSAC at this point, its the California Justice Department lab that has the wraps. Their finding are a matter of public record (even if they close the case).
"I want to see ocean. I want to see black people. I want to see palms." - Wladimir Klitschko
Of course it's public record
But that doesn’t mean they need to put out a press release when it’s done. Someone would need to actually ask them.
Vogt early, Vogt often.
Well, get to calling then
"I want to see ocean. I want to see black people. I want to see palms." - Wladimir Klitschko
Nevermind
It’s plaster.
"I want to see ocean. I want to see black people. I want to see palms." - Wladimir Klitschko
Man, Margar-cheato! does this mean lifetime ban from the sport? or does the decision for a 1 year ban hold? ALSO, this disproves nuthuggers and will anger all the boxers who fell to his plaster fists!
It's actually not a 1-year ban
Margerito and Capetillo’s licenses were revoked. All the “1-year” part means is that they can reapply for a license no sooner than a year from now. It doesn’t mean they will automatically get one (and actually, in light of this, I kind of doubt they will).
"I want to see ocean. I want to see black people. I want to see palms." - Wladimir Klitschko
I wish Calzaghe would climb out of retirement and fight Chad Dawson. I would have liked to see how his style meshed with a world-class southpaw before he hung them up for good.
"I want to see ocean. I want to see black people. I want to see palms." - Wladimir Klitschko
I wish for Rocky to get a punch-trigger and KO chris john and bring home a belt!
The Dude Abides
by battle axe of doom on Mar 26, 2009 10:01 PM EDT reply actions
I wish Rocky would get a belt from someone else at 126
He’s probably the second or third best featherweight right now, but there are a few hijacked belts at the moment.
Vogt early, Vogt often.
Looking at how in shape RJJ stays I doubt
he ever turns into Toney and balloons up. Some people are just lucky like that. I could also care less about this fight bc there is no way to make it even. Ones a good/once great boxer and one is a great mma fighter.
In fact it kinda of like asking a New Zealands Rugby team, #1 in the world when I looked it up, to play against the Steelers. There are lots of similarities between the two sports but the are fundamentally different. And they both appeal to a different fans that sometimes happen to like both.
Good comparison
one of the best i’ve heard
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Mar 28, 2009 7:12 AM EDT up reply actions

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