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Manny Pacquiao versus...Julio Cesar Chavez Jr.?

If Bob Arum is to be believed, the Top Rank king is thinking of setting up a late 2009 fight between Manny Pacquiao and Julio Cesar Chavez Jr., both under his control.

It's probably just Bob talking his usual level of inane B.S., but here's the quote:

"There is John Duddy, there is Oscar de la Hoya if he continues to fight. And there is a third which is a little different because of the size difference but it would be the biggest fight of the year, with Julio Cesar Chavez versus Manny Pacquiao, Mexico versus the Philippines."

??!?!?!

There's so much about this that's silly. First of all, no it would not be the biggest fight of the year. There's absolutely no way in frozen hockey rink hell that Pacquiao-Chavez is a bigger fight than Pacquiao-Hatton. Chavez is a mid-tier, mediocre fighter that gets by solely on his name. Mexican fans buy his crummy PPV fights because of what his father did. Period. He's not any good. John Duddy would smoke him six ways from Sunday, and I'd bet on old Oscar de la Hoya to cream him pretty good, too.

Size difference? It's massive. Pacquiao is about 5'7" and has fought up to 147 pounds. Chavez is six feet tall and fights at 154, though he did try to start his career at 130-135. He's grown into his frame. He's a solid 154-pound fighter in physical terms. He's much, much bigger than Manny.

I don't think it'd matter though. These two could fight at 175 pounds and Pacquiao would beat the crap out of him.

The fight won't happen, of course. Many are speculating it's Arum trying to bait Floyd Mayweather by not mentioning him as a potential opponent for Pacquiao, but I also think there's a very strong chance that Manny-Floyd won't happen no matter what. Arum and Mayweather are not friendly -- it's still a simmering anger between the two of them. They've never put it in the past like Arum did with Oscar in recent years. Bob probably sees no real advantage to him putting his top superstar in the ring with Mayweather and paying Floyd whatever ridiculous dollar figure he'd want to do it. He has his reasons. (Doesn't mean I have to like it.)

Most likely scenario:

1. Pacquiao fights Hatton; if he wins, another big money fight with someone, or a smaller fight against Edwin Valero or somebody like that.

2. Chavez continues fighting the Matt Vandas and Luciano Cuellos of the world, struggling way too much with them for someone that's supposed to be a star.

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Arum is crazy

We all know Jr. is not going to fight MP. If they did make that fight Jr. couldn’t do any worse than the Golden Chicken. If we talk about overrated, lets talk about Berto. All I heard was that he was fast like PBF, I saw his fight against Collazo, He Lost.
We wan’t to see Marquez vs Manny P. to see whos the best P4P boxer.

by rgb on Mar 30, 2009 9:45 AM EDT reply actions  

Arum is so transparent its not even funny. I know that this is just sales and that he’s just being a salesman, but there’s something about Bob Arum that just flat out disgusts me.

"I want to see ocean. I want to see black people. I want to see palms." - Wladimir Klitschko

by jrok on Mar 30, 2009 11:08 AM EDT reply actions  

Agreed. The guy is such a charlatan that he stands out as such even in the world of boxing promotion.

by Matt Miller on Mar 30, 2009 6:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

John Duddy

Will rip him apart alone. End of story.

JCC Jr-Antonio Margarito… I would not be surprised. Given all the facts… think about it.

"Count on us! We sponsored Margarito for several years." - CEMEX [Mexico's largest cement company.]

by Sickle on Mar 30, 2009 12:22 PM EDT reply actions  

It will be a good fight

What do you think of Cotto vs JCC Jr.? If Jr, beats Duddy if they fight will you give him some props Thanks

by rgb on Mar 30, 2009 1:18 PM EDT reply actions  

Why would Cotto move up to fight Jr?

Any why would Arum pit one of his cash cows against someone who would completely destroy him?

He’s trying to drum up interest from DLH, which would be a final fight that would make a ton of sense for him. Imagine 100,000 screaming Mexicans in Azteca stadium for Oscar De La Hoya’s final fight against JCC Jr., who’s trying to avenge his father’s defeat. Even shot De La Hoya probably takes him out within 6, but it would still be a huge event. Otherwise, all the rest of this is just smoke. Arum will keep fighting Jr against scrubs until the Latin Fury cards stop making money, and then he’ll feed Jr to one of his up-and-coming prospects.

Vogt early, Vogt often.

by Brickhaus on Mar 30, 2009 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Junior has had 40 fights against “whatisnames” and “whodyasays.” How about the throw him in against Yorgey? He’s got about the same pedigree as just about everybody else on Junior’s fought on Latin Fury.

And for the record, I think that Yorgey would knock him out.

"I want to see ocean. I want to see black people. I want to see palms." - Wladimir Klitschko

by jrok on Mar 30, 2009 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's why they won't throw him in with someone like Yorgey

Do you think Bob Arum is retarded or something?

Vogt early, Vogt often.

by Brickhaus on Mar 31, 2009 12:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yes

No. Maybe?

Evil and stupid and greedy are a pick’em sometimes. Of course, being a lawyer he could be all three at once and still come out ahead.

"I want to see ocean. I want to see black people. I want to see palms." - Wladimir Klitschko

by jrok on Mar 31, 2009 12:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

interesting dynamic I see above me again…inherent qualities of lawyers?

by lcollins1 on Mar 31, 2009 1:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

Present company excluded

if your a lawyer. But I say that mainly to protect myself from a slander suit.

"I want to see ocean. I want to see black people. I want to see palms." - Wladimir Klitschko

by jrok on Mar 31, 2009 1:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

not yet, but I heard Brick is.

by lcollins1 on Mar 31, 2009 1:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm a good lawyer

It’s like the difference between a wicked witch and a good witch.

Vogt early, Vogt often.

by Brickhaus on Mar 31, 2009 9:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

Whats the difference between a lawyer and a boxing referee?
A boxing referee doesnt get paid more for a longer fight.

Pffft. Ill get my coat…

Mainstream is brought to you ..
Underground you got to go there...

by dinkman on Mar 31, 2009 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

BOB ARUM IS CRAZY

THE NATIONAL TREASURE IS THE BEST POUND FOR FOUND FIGHTER IN THE PLANET TODAY, CHAVES JR. IS NOTHING ALL HE GOT IS THE NAME OF HE’S FATHER. A LEGENDARY FIGHTER RETIRED AS A LOSSER IN BOXING. MAYWEATHER OR MARQUEZ IS DESTINY FOR PACMAN,TO BACOME THE GREATEST OF ALL TIME .

by flashpena on Mar 30, 2009 8:31 PM EDT reply actions  

JROK IS RIGHT...

JROK, KNOCK OUT THE SON OF LEGENDARY, THOMAS HEARNS….. CHAVEZ JR. THE SON OF MEXICAN LEGENDARY JULIO CESAR CHAVEZ., IS THE NEXT KNOCK OUT VICTIM OF JROK !

by flashpena on Mar 30, 2009 8:40 PM EDT reply actions  

JROK IS RIGHT...

YORGEY,KNOCK OUT THE SON OF LEGENDARY HEARN, CHAVEZ JR. IN NEXT.

by flashpena on Mar 30, 2009 8:43 PM EDT reply actions  

I’m not sure what’s going on above me, puzzling…

by lcollins1 on Mar 30, 2009 10:06 PM EDT reply actions  

I blame myself

No just kidding, I don’t blame myself. After all, I knocked out the son of legendary Thomas Hearns.

"I want to see ocean. I want to see black people. I want to see palms." - Wladimir Klitschko

by jrok on Mar 30, 2009 10:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Eh

it’s still early in the morning in the Philippines

Vogt early, Vogt often.

by Brickhaus on Mar 31, 2009 12:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

JROK IS RIGHT

CAN’T YOU READ IT DOESN’T MATTER HOW EARLY OKAY…. JROK WILL KNOCK OUT THE SONS OF THOMAS HEARNS, OSCARE DE LA HEARNS AND PACMAN WILL KNOCK OUT JROK AND ALL OF HIS SONS.

(I do like hearing I am “right” though.)

"I want to see ocean. I want to see black people. I want to see palms." - Wladimir Klitschko

by jrok on Mar 31, 2009 12:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

ha. Even joking yours is more lucid than the real thing.

by lcollins1 on Mar 31, 2009 12:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

Uncle Bob's sarcastic smile

when Arum commented on who’s Chavez Jr’s next fight, he said it with a sarcastic smile. He mentioned Duddy, the Golden (money) Boy and Pacman.. It’s a nonsense, perhaps Bob just want to impress Chavez Sr with his antics and of course he’s (Bob) is at the Chavez’ lair. The last three fights of Chavez JR were really disappointing (good thing that he survived with Vanda). Pairing him with our man Pacman is definitely untrue. Dont regard it as the fight of the year. Mr. Arum, how about matching your boy Chavez JR with “Mr. Concrete” fist Margarito?

by boxingManny-ac on Apr 13, 2009 10:48 AM EDT reply actions  

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