Bad Left Hook Fight Night: James Kirkland v. Joel Julio
by SC on Mar 7, 2009 9:23 PM EST
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Round-by-round coverage and scoring of all three fights starts tonight at 10pm, and the card is televised on HBO Boxing After Dark. Join us! The main event could be special.
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| JAMES KIRKLAND Ring Magazine No. 10 (154) |
JOEL JULIO |
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| 24-0 | Record | 34-2 |
| 21 | KO | 31 |
| Austin, TX | Hometown | Monteria, Colombia |
| 24 | Age | 24 |
| 5'9" | Height | 5'10" |
| 70" | Reach | 72" |
| Brian Vera (TKO-8) Ricardo Cortes (TKO-2) Eromosele Albert (TKO-1) |
Notable Wins | Jose Varela (RTD-6) Ishe Smith (UD-10) Cornelius Bundrage (TKO-8) |
| Notable Losses | Sergiy Dzinziruk (UD-12) Carlos Quintana (UD-12) |
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| VICTOR ORTIZ | MIKE ARNAOUTIS | |
| 23-1-1 | Record | 21-2-2 |
| 18 | KO | 10 |
| Oxnard, CA | Hometown | Athens, Greece (Atlantic City, NJ) |
| 22 | Age | 29 |
| 5'9" | Height | 5'10" |
| 70" | Reach | 70" |
| Jeff Resto (TKO-2) Dairo Esalas (KO-5) Carlos Maussa (KO-1) |
Notable Wins | Nasser Athumani (KO-3) Lanardo Tyner (UD-12) Jesse Feliciano (TKO-1) |
| Corey Alarcon (DQ-1) | Notable Losses | Kendall Holt (UD-12) Ricardo Torres (SD-12) |
| ROBERT GUERRERO Ring Magazine No. 10 (130) |
DAUD YORDAN |
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| 23-1-1 | Record | 23-0 |
| 16 | KO | 17 |
| Gilroy, CA | Hometown | Kalimantan, Indonesia |
| 25 | Age | 21 |
| 5'8" | Height | 5'7" |
| 70" | Reach | ?? |
| Jason Litzau (KO-8) Martin Honorio (TKO-1) Spend Abazi (TKO-9) |
Notable Wins | |
| Gamaliel Diaz (SD-12) | Notable Losses | |
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so all three of the highlighted fighters should have a tougher time with these guys than their most recent opponents right?
The Dude Abides
by battle axe of doom on Mar 7, 2009 12:46 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Guerrero probably won’t knock out Yordan in the first so yes.
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
by SC on Mar 7, 2009 3:00 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yordan’s sheet has more question marks then the Riddler’s laundry. I’m surprised they bothered to weigh him.
"I want to see ocean. I want to see black people. I want to see palms." - Wladimir Klitschko
by jrok on Mar 7, 2009 12:55 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Clip of Yordan for those who haven't seen him
The statement about the trunks at the beginning is wrong, the guy who looks Indonesian is Yordan.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0XRmo2HQL8g&feature=related
Vogt early, Vogt often.
by Brickhaus on Mar 7, 2009 4:45 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
by SC on Mar 7, 2009 5:37 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
The cat looking at the canary right there.
"I want to see ocean. I want to see black people. I want to see palms." - Wladimir Klitschko
by jrok on Mar 7, 2009 7:24 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
by SC on Mar 7, 2009 5:38 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
by SC on Mar 7, 2009 5:38 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Looks like Julio has hgis "I'm an opponent" face on
I bet Rafael feels like an idiot naming him prospect of the year. Thought it was a dumb move at the time, looks even dumber now. He’s just not very good at picking out talent.
Vogt early, Vogt often.
by Brickhaus on Mar 7, 2009 5:41 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
He also picked Khan as a prospect of the year….
"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."
by Zocalo on Mar 7, 2009 5:43 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm guilty of Khan too
I’ve always thought Julio was a lot of fun to watch but never got the hullaballoo. Now Khan was my Yuri Gamboa. I thought he was gonna be the shiiiiit. Oops.
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
by SC on Mar 7, 2009 5:49 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm personally going to have a lifetime high bet;
on MAB knocking him the fuck out.
I know, Barrera isn’t the fighter he once was. But Khan has never been anything, really, has never beaten anyone, has gone over too many times against fighters who wouldn’t be deemed fit to lace Barrera’s gloves, and been wobbled by Prescott’s jab before getting blown out.
Yes, Khan is faster, bigger, maybe even hits harder. But Barrera is still, er.. Barrera. I’d have Barrera to beat Prescott, and I’d have Prescott to destroy Khan again.
So what I’m saying, really, is that given my recent form, you should have your house on Amir….
Does the fact a boxer doesn't switch weight divisions during their career detract from their overall P4P ranking?
Cos I'd take Hagler over most heavies in history, P4P, and also over "6 weight world champion" Oscar De La Hoya, and Marvellous Marvin never really messed about with his weight, did he?
by Chaos100 on Mar 7, 2009 5:56 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I did a whole post on Barrera/Khan.....
without mentioning the words ‘glass’ or ‘chin’.
Who is proud of me?!!
Does the fact a boxer doesn't switch weight divisions during their career detract from their overall P4P ranking?
Cos I'd take Hagler over most heavies in history, P4P, and also over "6 weight world champion" Oscar De La Hoya, and Marvellous Marvin never really messed about with his weight, did he?
by Chaos100 on Mar 7, 2009 5:59 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
he sure does have his ‘opponent’ face on. From the look of that picture I’d say Julio’s biggest weakness is his belief. Kirk knows he’s going to win this fight. Julio’s going to have to convince him otherwise, which isn’t unrealistic…unless Julio thinks it’s unrealistic.
by lcollins1 on Mar 7, 2009 5:57 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Well Julio has one thing going for him… he has legit knockout power. I have lingering doubts about both fighters. Whoever has the better chin will win this fight in my opinion and the fact that Julio went down to the always gritty and game Cosme Rivera when he was a welterweight kinda reenforces that my belief that he will be in more trouble if he gets hit flush.
"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."
by Zocalo on Mar 7, 2009 6:03 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Count me in
Honest, unfiltered, and UNCENSORED, dammit.
by Dikembe Meiztombo on Mar 7, 2009 8:46 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
ESPN Classic
Is going to show something called “The Best of Butterbean I.” I can only assume this means there is a “The Best of Butterbean II.”
Sorry to burden you all with this knowledge.
"I want to see ocean. I want to see black people. I want to see palms." - Wladimir Klitschko
by jrok on Mar 7, 2009 9:27 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Butterbean rules
Who can’t find something to love about a big fat guy that punches hard and is totally content to be the King of the 4 Rounders? If he wasn’t just an even fatter shell of his former self I’d watch Butterbean-Valuev.
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
by SC on Mar 7, 2009 9:37 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Fair enough. But I think I’d still rather watch “Michael Dokes – Greatest Hits III” then "The Best of Butterbean II." Just saying.
"I want to see ocean. I want to see black people. I want to see palms." - Wladimir Klitschko
by jrok on Mar 7, 2009 9:47 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Not really digging Street Kings…. Die Hard 2 is better :P
"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."
by Zocalo on Mar 7, 2009 9:40 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Die Hard 2 is mad underrated. I have yet to watch Street Kings. I may after the fights. I watched Over Her Dead Body the other day so why not.
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
by SC on Mar 7, 2009 9:45 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Die Hard III sucks the bone
But the first two are classics. I actually didn’t mind parts of the latest one. Truck vs. Jet plane is so 80’s.
"I want to see ocean. I want to see black people. I want to see palms." - Wladimir Klitschko
by jrok on Mar 7, 2009 9:49 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
III is definitely my least favorite
It’s a little too much, which pisses me off because it’s got a great, cliche villain idea and some good performance. I still like it. Live Free or Die Hard ruled. Pure homage and awesomeness. Better than Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull at any rate (which was OK but pissed me off in the last 15 minutes).
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
by SC on Mar 7, 2009 9:51 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
It’s hard to explain, but a truck doing battle with a jet plane on an overpass…. well it’s not Shakespeare but it works. My wife thought I was brain damaged for cheering, but I couldn’t help it.
"I want to see ocean. I want to see black people. I want to see palms." - Wladimir Klitschko
by jrok on Mar 7, 2009 9:54 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I’m not a cliche ACTION MOVIES SPORTS BEER dude in many respects, but I am with Die Hard. And Westerns. And boxing. And bourbon. And Road House. TEAR HIS THROAT OUT SWAYZE. I’M NOT SURE HOW I FEEL ABOUT YOUR HAIRDO OR LADIES’ WAISTLINE.
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
by SC on Mar 7, 2009 9:56 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The scene by the lake was so classic, like the Karate Kid crane kick. Swayze was channeling Bruce Lee when he hooked his fingers.
"I want to see ocean. I want to see black people. I want to see palms." - Wladimir Klitschko
by jrok on Mar 7, 2009 9:58 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Die Hard
was epic… Die Hard 2… was very respectable…. the other 3 were eh…
"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."
by Zocalo on Mar 7, 2009 9:58 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
other 2… typo…
"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."
by Zocalo on Mar 7, 2009 9:59 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I Agree
the end part of IJ & the Kingdom of the Crystal Skulls was a bit of a cop out
by JasonTryp on Mar 7, 2009 9:52 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
AND WE'RE LIVE
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
by SC on Mar 7, 2009 10:02 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
what
Jorge Linares is THE prodigy in boxing? This is an overstatement. He’s wonderful, obviously, and super exciting, but with his injuries and all that he’s not THE prodigy in boxing.
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
by SC on Mar 7, 2009 10:04 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
starting fast
Guerrero and Yordan already in the ring. Looks like it’s just Bob and Max tonight. I will say I prefer a two-man booth if the option for a third is Lennox Lewis.
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
by SC on Mar 7, 2009 10:04 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Yordan: 5’7"
Both 135 tonight.
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
by SC on Mar 7, 2009 10:05 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
The little woman has informed me that my pick streak ends tonight. She thinks Julio is going to expose Kirkland.
"I want to see ocean. I want to see black people. I want to see palms." - Wladimir Klitschko
by jrok on Mar 7, 2009 10:06 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Guerrero has a good sweat working
Yordan looks cold as stone.
"I want to see ocean. I want to see black people. I want to see palms." - Wladimir Klitschko
by jrok on Mar 7, 2009 10:07 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
HBO has Yordan at 17-0, 12 KO
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
by SC on Mar 7, 2009 10:07 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
He had a lot of unsanctioned fights that don't count on his official record
Vogt early, Vogt often.
by Brickhaus on Mar 7, 2009 10:11 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Guerrero-Yordan starting
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
by SC on Mar 7, 2009 10:08 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Oh fuck it’s Lennox
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
by SC on Mar 7, 2009 10:08 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
"Cheato Latino?"
"I want to see ocean. I want to see black people. I want to see palms." - Wladimir Klitschko
by jrok on Mar 7, 2009 10:09 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Guerrero-Yordan R1
Guerrero working his left. Lennox, twenty seconds into the fight, says of Yordan, “You don’t know much about him but he looks good right now. He’s got a good stance.” Seriously, get fired.
Both guys bouncing around, Yordan with a right and then eats a left. Guerrero backs him down with a clubbing left. Guerrero blatantly hits Yordan in the back of the head on a hold. Just a little patter shot but a dick move. Guerrero is kind of a dick fighter. I like him.
Sloppy first round really. Yordan isn’t afraid to try to work his way in on Guerrero, whose power has pushed Yordan back a couple times. Not much in the way of clean punches landing. Yordan with a right that glances and a left hook that doesn’t land flush, Guerrero not hurt but Bob calls him “rocked.” Lennox rightly (!) says Guerrero has no respect for Yordan.
Guerrero 10-9, but a close round
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
by SC on Mar 7, 2009 10:11 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Csaey Guerrero at ringside!
Good to see.
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
by SC on Mar 7, 2009 10:12 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Guererro has looked a lot better since his wife got cancer
Hearing that she’s mostly better now makes me think Yordan might have a chance.
Vogt early, Vogt often.
by Brickhaus on Mar 7, 2009 10:12 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Wow that sounds callous
What I mean is that he had motivation and focus issues in the past.
Vogt early, Vogt often.
by Brickhaus on Mar 7, 2009 10:13 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I got what you meant
Remember when he knocked out Honorio and said it was because he wanted to get back home?
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
by SC on Mar 7, 2009 10:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Guerrero-Yordan R2
Yordan throwing some nice combos. I don’t think he’s hurting Guerrero but he’s definitely come to fight. Guerrero is cut. Yordan is really mixing it up in there. Guerrero’s cut is not good and it’s right over his right eye.
Time is called to check out the cut. It was an accidental clash of heads. Guerrero says he can’t see, so they’re going to call it. If a guy says he can’t see it’s over.
And it is called off. What can you do? It’s a bad cut and going right in his eye.
No Contest
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
by SC on Mar 7, 2009 10:15 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Why couldn't this have happened in the Duddy-Vanda fight?
Vogt early, Vogt often.
by Brickhaus on Mar 7, 2009 10:15 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
The Yordan corner thinks he won. The fans think Guerrero lost. They’re all wrong.
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
by SC on Mar 7, 2009 10:16 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
It’s a nasty cut, but I’m a little surprised Guerrero wouldn’t try and give it a go.
by A.F. on Mar 7, 2009 10:16 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
if he can't see he can't see
To be honest I think he’s right to not go on in that situation. If it goes to cards after four rounds, he might get a loss on his record against a guy he should (in theory) beat. It’s probably smart.
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
by SC on Mar 7, 2009 10:17 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I agree it’s his right, and I’m not saying he should have continued, but the round was almost over and I’m a little surprised he wouldn’t want to give his corner a chance to stop the bleeding.
by A.F. on Mar 7, 2009 10:21 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I suppose it’s a little surprising, but there’s not much you can do with that cut. Terrible spot. I will say he could’ve definitely let it go another round and pressed hard for a KO. He was favored to win early.
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
by SC on Mar 7, 2009 10:22 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
“BULLSHIT” chant? Grow up.
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
by SC on Mar 7, 2009 10:17 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
they cant see what we see…
"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."
by Zocalo on Mar 7, 2009 10:18 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
They saw the replay on the big screen. It’s a lame chant in this situation.
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
by SC on Mar 7, 2009 10:19 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Headbutt clearly
Vogt early, Vogt often.
by Brickhaus on Mar 7, 2009 10:18 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
nasty accidental headbutt
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
by SC on Mar 7, 2009 10:18 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It was a nasty cut.
But I am a little surprised Robert didn’t let it go one more round.
"I want to see ocean. I want to see black people. I want to see palms." - Wladimir Klitschko
by jrok on Mar 7, 2009 10:19 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I mean, you could see him convincing the doctor it was done
"I want to see ocean. I want to see black people. I want to see palms." - Wladimir Klitschko
by jrok on Mar 7, 2009 10:19 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Bob Papa: “Joel Julio, a seasoned veteran…”
Fucking really?
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
by SC on Mar 7, 2009 10:19 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
btw, watched FNF on DVR last night...
Demetrius Andrade? That guys looks promising.
by cmkelly29 on Mar 7, 2009 10:20 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Maybe he meant “relatively?”
"I want to see ocean. I want to see black people. I want to see palms." - Wladimir Klitschko
by jrok on Mar 7, 2009 10:20 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
He didn’t.
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
by SC on Mar 7, 2009 10:21 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Arreola vs. McCline
Why am I not seeing “Haye vs. McCline?” Oh yeah, thats right. Haye is the giantkiller.
"I want to see ocean. I want to see black people. I want to see palms." - Wladimir Klitschko
by jrok on Mar 7, 2009 10:22 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Ortiz and Mighty Mike in the ring
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
by SC on Mar 7, 2009 10:23 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Arnaoutis v. Holt
Arnaoutis “admits he was beaten by the better man.” Kinda. I recall Arnaoutis having his dad in the corner that fight and his dad was just terrible.
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
by SC on Mar 7, 2009 10:24 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
He could have beaten both Holt and Torres had be been more active in those fights.
Vogt early, Vogt often.
by Brickhaus on Mar 7, 2009 10:36 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
He gave the goddamn fight against Torres away. That was maddening.
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
by SC on Mar 7, 2009 10:36 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Ortiz-Arnaoutis starting
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
by SC on Mar 7, 2009 10:27 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Ortiz-Arnaoutis R1
Right hook from Ortiz kicks the fight off proper about 30 seconds into the round. Arnaoutis blocks him when he comes back with it a second time. Ortiz is sitting back pretty patiently. Lennox rightly (!) observes that he looks a little tight in the opening round. Arnaoutis hasn’t gotten much off. There he comes leading with two missed jabs and a missed right.
Slower first round than one might expect, but it shows that Ortiz knows Arnaoutis isn’t the washed up guys he’s been fighting. Good call, dude.
Ortiz 10-9
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
by SC on Mar 7, 2009 10:30 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Ortiz-Arnaoutis R2
Lennox thinks it’s SILLY that a referee would worry about shoe laces being loose and too long. Max rightly (!) points out that he’s probably worried Arnaoutis trips, which can lead to someone blowing out a knee. I added the last part. it’s an understandable concern.
BIG LEFT ORTIZ! Arnaoutis is hurt in the corner, and IT’S OVER! He got caught square and it was over.
Victor Ortiz TKO-2
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
by SC on Mar 7, 2009 10:33 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Man, ortiz has some of the best mechanics i ever seen on a hook punch. it’s so compact and powerful!
by cylee1180 on Mar 7, 2009 11:23 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Eh
I thought that was an early stoppage
Vogt early, Vogt often.
by Brickhaus on Mar 7, 2009 10:34 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I didn't
He was getting killed over there. Arnaoutis was just standing there and the uppercut was nasty too.
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
by SC on Mar 7, 2009 10:34 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The only punch that landed was the uppercut
Vogt early, Vogt often.
by Brickhaus on Mar 7, 2009 10:35 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
He was still just standing there. If you’re going to just stand there it’s going to get stopped. Dudes oughta know that. Now I thought Calzaghe-Manfredo (a similar stoppage) WAS too soon, so to each their own and all.
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
by SC on Mar 7, 2009 10:36 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
A little bit, but Arnaoutis wasn’t doing anything to throw back.
by A.F. on Mar 7, 2009 10:35 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Lennox wrongly (duh) thinks Arnaoutis wonders why it was stopped
He wasn’t protesting. He knows why it was stopped. His look after the stoppage was more, “Damn it,” than, “WHAT THE F, G!?”
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
by SC on Mar 7, 2009 10:34 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Possibly he came to after the fight had been stopped
Vogt early, Vogt often.
by Brickhaus on Mar 7, 2009 10:35 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t like when white girls purse their lips and try to look like 2Pac.
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
by SC on Mar 7, 2009 10:35 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I thought she looked like Leelee Sobieski
by cmkelly29 on Mar 7, 2009 10:36 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Well besides the lip-pursing and 2Pac posturing, yeah.
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
by SC on Mar 7, 2009 10:36 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
SAW. SAW. SAW. NOT SEEN. SAW. NOT SEEN.
This is my only pet peeve about people screwing up the language.
“These fighters from Greece? Very good man!”
?? WTF.
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
by SC on Mar 7, 2009 10:38 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Ortiz is kind of a yokel
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
by SC on Mar 7, 2009 10:38 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I mean I'm just sayin
I still think he rules.
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
by SC on Mar 7, 2009 10:38 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
whoa Lennox
Belt line’s a little low there, Walter Matthau.
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
by SC on Mar 7, 2009 10:39 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Not early
Okay, Mike wasn’t DEAD, but I thought that was the point of stoppages.
"I want to see ocean. I want to see black people. I want to see palms." - Wladimir Klitschko
by jrok on Mar 7, 2009 10:40 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
The uppercut
Is what warrented the stoppage to me
"After this, I'm gonna kick Bob Arum's ass."
-George Lopez
by thebitb on Mar 7, 2009 10:40 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
yeah
That’s when the ref jumped in too. His body reacted badly to it. I think that had to be what the selling point was for the ref.
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
by SC on Mar 7, 2009 10:41 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
When the arms went down after that uppercut was enough for me to stop the fight…..
"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."
by Zocalo on Mar 7, 2009 10:41 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Yeah he looked like he lost it for a few right there..
Disappointing, but called for.
by cmkelly29 on Mar 7, 2009 10:43 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Ortiz is special. He has concussive power with his punches. It is rare to see that with a fighter who is skilled enough to land with accuracy.
"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."
by Zocalo on Mar 7, 2009 10:43 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
and he’s patient, and he has great defense! and great ring iq! that guy is thinking when he’s in that ring!
by cylee1180 on Mar 7, 2009 11:26 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
So i'm guessing Kirkland is the favorite?
by cmkelly29 on Mar 7, 2009 10:44 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
sort of
He’s the guy HBO is invested in but it’s pretty 50-50 among people I’ve seen picking.
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
by SC on Mar 7, 2009 10:45 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Kirkland has significant flaws that can be exploited by someone who is skilled enough to tag him or someone with one punch knockout power.
Julio isn’t someone who I consider very skilled but does have legit knockout power.
"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."
by Zocalo on Mar 7, 2009 10:46 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
kirkland is so overrated! misses big, esp. his big left hooks that he falls off balance and is open after. that guy will get exposed soon.
by cylee1180 on Mar 7, 2009 11:27 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
TAKE THAT, VONDA!
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
by SC on Mar 7, 2009 10:47 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
She's fucking crazy
I’m sorry, but she is.
by cmkelly29 on Mar 7, 2009 10:48 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
“Sergio Martinez is just about to make a move on those pound-for-pound lists.”
Fucking really? I don’t think he’s anywhere close.
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
by SC on Mar 7, 2009 10:51 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
They always pimp their own guys
No mention of Vanes Matirosyan, who I seriously think is a better prospect than any of the others at 154…
Vogt early, Vogt often.
by Brickhaus on Mar 7, 2009 10:57 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
So I guess nobody wins any picks on that first fight
I doubt anyone predicted a No Contest.
Brady Hoke, Al Borges, and Rocky Long. Aztec football is back!
by Sam (sdsuaztec4) on Mar 7, 2009 10:51 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
nope
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
by SC on Mar 7, 2009 10:51 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
better safe than sorry! i made no predictions this time. i know nothing about the opponents…
by cylee1180 on Mar 7, 2009 11:27 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
weights tonight
Kirkland 166
Julio 167
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
by SC on Mar 7, 2009 10:51 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Hope Kirkland wins
If not I’ll be 0-2 tonight
by JasonTryp on Mar 7, 2009 10:52 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Kirkland-Julio starting
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
by SC on Mar 7, 2009 10:57 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
lol
First punch Julio throws hurts Kirkland
Vogt early, Vogt often.
by Brickhaus on Mar 7, 2009 10:58 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Kirkland-Julio R1
Kirkland starting fast, throwing rights and lefts. He backs Julio down, goes to the body. Hard left to the body. Kirkland is all over Julio to start. Julio is on his bike immediately, maybe looking to sucker him in. Right hand Julio finally. NLooked like it hurt James too. Kirkland is just chasing him around the ring.
Left hand to the body by JK. Julio winging rights, Kirkland ducking away. Jab by Kirkland, and Julio starting to warm up a bit now and throw more. Left hand Kirkland. Kirkland hit with an uppercut. Then a straight right. Then a shot to the body. Julio rallying, counter shot by JK! And Julio retreats again.
Julio with a BIG combo! Well this is what we thought it’d be. Julio is cut by his right eye from a punch. Not a bad spot, though, thank God.
Julio to the body again. And there he flurries with big shots late. Well here we go.
Kirkland 10-9
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
by SC on Mar 7, 2009 11:01 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Second half of the round was pretty decent
I picked Julio to win, but do expect Kirkland to start strong.
I was surprised when they said this was a 10-rounder.
Vogt early, Vogt often.
by Brickhaus on Mar 7, 2009 11:01 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Kirkland 2.5 to 1 favorite
anyone call their bookie?
Brady Hoke, Al Borges, and Rocky Long. Aztec football is back!
by Sam (sdsuaztec4) on Mar 7, 2009 11:02 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
That woman screaming is annoying as hell
Vogt early, Vogt often.
by Brickhaus on Mar 7, 2009 11:03 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Kirkland-Julio R2
Kirkland coming out fast again. He’s just throwing his hands all over the place. Flurry to the body. Julio tries a lead right over the top, Kirkland throws about three punches. BIG right from Julio! Julio standing in the pocket and posturing now, Kirkland doesn’t bite. Julio misses a left hook but lands a short right after. Julio with a right to the body, Kirkland misses a counter left.
Kirkland with a body shot. That’s about all he’s landing right now. He’s been busy but pretty inaccurate. And now they stand and throw the big leather. Kirkland back to the body. Someone shut that wailing woman up.
Kirkland digs to the body again. That’s going to add up. Seriously, eject that woman. Enough.
Julio with a few shots at the end of the round. He’s just that half-step off so far.
Kirkland 10-9
Kirkland 20-18
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
by SC on Mar 7, 2009 11:05 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
My girlfriend:
“That screaming is really annoying”
by cmkelly29 on Mar 7, 2009 11:08 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Kirkland-Julio R3
There’s a series of big, clean punches from both. AND HERE THEY GO! HERE THEY GO! That was some hellacious excahnge. Good lord.
Jesus, lady, shut UP. WOOO. WOOOO. WOOOO. WOOOO.
I hate this woman. I really do. She’s ruining part of my enjoyment of this fight. Just awful.
Kirkland and Julio back at square one. BIG SHOT JULIO! Kirkland is hurt! Julio unloading! Kirkland fights back! Kirk’s on wobbly legs, but he’s FIGHTING, by God! This is NASTY.
Julio hits Kirkland off balance with a right. Julio may have punched himself out a bit too. He’s going to need that rest.
Round ends. And what a fight this has been.
Julio 10-9
Kirkland 29-28
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
by SC on Mar 7, 2009 11:09 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
"kirkland got hit with the kitchen sink and he picked it up and threw it right back"
lol
"After this, I'm gonna kick Bob Arum's ass."
-George Lopez
by thebitb on Mar 7, 2009 11:10 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Someone send Kirkland's trainer into the crowd to shut that woman up.
by cmkelly29 on Mar 7, 2009 11:11 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Kirkland-Julio R4
Kirkland warned clearly for hitting behind the head, and then Kirk throws a shot before Julio is ready to start again. Wow, amazing. It was an accident though. Ref said let’s go. Kirk goes when that happens.
Hard left to the body by Kirkland. Sneaky step-in right from Joel. And another, not as clean that time. Julio stings him again, but Kirkland has some Shane Mosley in him. So far his chin looks really good, and then when he’s hit hard, he just starts wailing. I’m becoming a bigger James Kirkland fan with this fight.
Kirkland has an answer for everything Julio does, really. It’s quite a performance so far. Julio is tiring and holding on a lot. Kirkland is just all over him at all points. He’s mauling him.
Kirkland 10-9
Kirkland 39-37
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
by SC on Mar 7, 2009 11:13 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
julios eye
starting to get bad
"After this, I'm gonna kick Bob Arum's ass."
-George Lopez
by thebitb on Mar 7, 2009 11:13 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
kirkland's
lack of head movement and insistance on coming straight in is going to hurt him eventually in his career, maybe not tonight but eventually.
"After this, I'm gonna kick Bob Arum's ass."
-George Lopez
by thebitb on Mar 7, 2009 11:14 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Kirkland-Julio R5
The eye is starting to swell a lot for Julio. Stop calling Julio “Ortiz,” Bob.
Julio with a lead right power shot. He’s really winging the bombs. Kirkland is starting to beat him up a little bit now. Kirk backs him down on a jab and then a semi-lazy left. Two dirty boxing lefts on the inside by James. Julio lands a good shot, and Kirkland lands about four. Kirkland might be getting a little too reckless, though. Max points out that his hands are dropping, and Julio can punch.
There’s a right from Julio, mostly blocked. Left hook Julio. Kirkland digs to the body again.
Kirkland 10-9
Kirkland 49-46
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
by SC on Mar 7, 2009 11:17 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Kirkland-Julio R6
Max interrupts Lennox when he decides that Lennox’s train of thought has gone well off the tracks. That’s a good skill to have, I’ll say that much.
Julio keeps popping him now and then but it’s just not enough. Kirkland is attacking, attacking, attacking. Even if it’s not that genuinely effective as far as big shots go, it’s eye-popping, far more so than Julio backing down and looking for counter stuff. Julio looks like he’s getting hurt on some shots that aren’t even that big now. Yeah he’s clutching and hurt at the end of the round.
Kirkland 10-9
Kirkland 59-55
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
by SC on Mar 7, 2009 11:21 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
and just as I was about to say "this could end any time"
Julio’s corner calls it off because he can’t breathe. Good call, he was just getting his ass kicked.
James Kirkland RTD-6
That should end the Joel Julio as potential star argument.
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
by SC on Mar 7, 2009 11:22 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
good fight, not great
Turned into a pretty unruly beatdown after the third round.
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
by SC on Mar 7, 2009 11:22 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
kirkland impressed me tonight
i still think he is flawed but his power is overwhelming
"After this, I'm gonna kick Bob Arum's ass."
-George Lopez
by thebitb on Mar 7, 2009 11:23 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
it's not just his power either
He’s always punching.
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
by SC on Mar 7, 2009 11:24 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Julio made a decent stand early in the round, landed some nice clean shots right on the button and they did nothing. That had to be demoralizing.
by A.F. on Mar 7, 2009 11:23 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
That’s as good a fight as there is to be made right now.
by A.F. on Mar 7, 2009 11:25 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
won't happen
Not enough money in it, plus Shaw hates to give “rewards” to fighters that left him for being a shitty promoter.
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
by SC on Mar 7, 2009 11:25 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
In a year or two
Not yet, and Gary Shaw is the type who holds a grudge, so it probably never happens until Angulo leaves Shaw.
Vogt early, Vogt often.
by Brickhaus on Mar 7, 2009 11:25 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I still want to see Kirkland go 10+ against someone
The way he seemed to get frustrated against Ossie Duran disappointed me. However, I think a lot of the questions about his chin that came from the Conyers fight go away after tonight. He took Julio’s biggest shots and kept coming, and Julio’s a big puncher.
Vogt early, Vogt often.
by Brickhaus on Mar 7, 2009 11:24 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
he fought
endlessly coming forward and punching for 6 straight rounds tonight, i dont think his stamina is an issue at all.
"After this, I'm gonna kick Bob Arum's ass."
-George Lopez
by thebitb on Mar 7, 2009 11:26 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It's not the stamina I question
It’s whether he can stay focused if a guy doesn’t get hurt by his biggest punches.
Vogt early, Vogt often.
by Brickhaus on Mar 7, 2009 11:27 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
oh goddamn it
Lisa Lampenelli gets on TV because this card ended so early.
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
by SC on Mar 7, 2009 11:29 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
She'd do James Kirkland
She’s all about the mandingo
Vogt early, Vogt often.
by Brickhaus on Mar 7, 2009 11:31 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
funny shit. I get on here after the card and the last comment is the funniest.
by lcollins1 on Mar 8, 2009 12:21 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
the card did kinda suck. I’m a big Kirkland fan, but other than that there wasn’t a lot of drama in the night
by lcollins1 on Mar 8, 2009 12:22 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
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