Official Picks for Lightweight Lightning + Bradley-Holt
In case anyone's wondering, yes we'll be here this Saturday night for Golden Boy's Lightweight Lightning PPV with live, round-by-round coverage, scoring and general BSing during the night. Still looks like a fun card to me.
Edwin Valero v. Antonio Pitalua (Lightweights, 12 Rounds - Vacant WBC title on the line)
Valero (24-0, 24 KO) and Pitalua (46-3, 40 KO) could put on a power-punching war for the ages if the stars align and everything comes together. I'm really serious -- this one has gruesome display of wicked punchmanship written all over it. Or someone might go down in the first round. You never know. But this one could be worth the price of admission alone.
Pitalua has been stopped before, but it came 14 years ago when he stepped way up in competition against Mexican Jesus Rodriguez, not an awful fighter or anything. He hasn't lost a fight since 2001, but he's also not faced the best competition since then. What sells him as a legit threat now is the sixth round knockout of Jose Armando Santa Cruz last September.
This is a big, big fight for both guys. It might not be a "big fight" by usual standards, but if Pitalua wins, he's the guy that took Valero's "0." Valero is getting a chance to show his game to a wide American audience for the first time. He's been a myth for most American fans, even the majority of the diehards. You can watch him on YouTube, but that's just not the same.
I do think that Valero will eventually run into someone he can't handle, and Manny Pacquiao will light him up like a Griswold Christmas tree if those two fight down the line. But I don't think Antonio Pitalua is the guy that's going to do it. This could be war. Valero KO-6
Michael Katsidis v. Jesus Chavez (Lightweights, 10 Rounds)
As much as I hate "keys to the game" or "keys to the fight" the way they're presented to us by the likes of Teddy Atlas ("Use jab!") or Tim McCarver ("Score runs!"), this one is pretty simple.
For Katsidis to win, he needs to take the fight to Chavez and test his heart and that surgically-repaired knee that gave out on him the last time he was in a major fight, against Julio Diaz in 2007. Chavez is 36 years old and Daniel Jimenez and Andres Ledesma aren't going to have him ready for this kind of step back up the ladder. Katsidis can be a pummeling sort when he's on his game. If he tries to box Chavez like he did Juan Diaz, he will lose. He is not fast enough, he doesn't have one-punch power, and he's not good enough defensively to win fights like that. Even an old, rusty Chavez can beat the Katsidis that fought Diaz, though not as easily as Diaz did.
Chavez? Pray. Pray the knee holds up, pray Katsidis doesn't ring his bell early, pray the fire is still deep down in there. I really hate saying it or bringing it up, but you can't ignore that Jesus hasn't won a big fight since Leavander Johnson, and that he's only been in one big fight since then, which lasted less than three rounds when his knee collapsed. He's not 100% in any way, and he never will be again. Katsidis TKO-8
Carlos Hernandez v. Vicente Escobedo (Lightweights, 10 Rounds)
Speaking of guys on big fight win droughts, here's 38-year old Carlos Hernandez, whose last really big win was against Stevie Forbes in 2003. He was supposed to be matched with Jorge Barrios, who spent the press conferences talking smack at Valero only to pull out of the event, and now he meets 27-year old Vicente Escobedo, a more natural lightweight. Escobedo turned pro in 2005, fought three low-key bouts last year, and is 19-1 (12 KO) for his career, with only a split decision loss to Daniel Jimenez marring his record. He was also on Fight Night Round 3, which was quite peculiar.
Even at 38 and with just one fight since a 2006 loss to Kevin Kelly, Hernandez might be the best fighter Escobedo has faced to date. "El Famoso," on the other hand, has been in the ring with the likes of Erik Morales, Floyd Mayweather Jr., and Genaro Hernandez, among others. Hernandez is a half-mystery going into this show, much like Chavez. I don't really have any idea how much he's got left in the tank. I've never been thoroughly impressed with Escobedo, but I'm glad he's taking the chance with this fight and trying to work his way up. If the timing's right, Escobedo will take the old man down. If he's not good enough, the old man will probably still struggle to win. That said, I have to favor the younger fighter. Escobedo UD-10
Julio Diaz v. Rolando Reyes (Lightweights, 10 Rounds)
Since his embarrassingly one-sided loss to Juan Diaz, Julio has beaten the crap out of David Torres and routed Fernando Trejo. Reyes, 30, is a fringe contender that didn't look too hot in a decision win over Ivan Valle last time out on ESPN2. Yeah he won the fight, and deserved to, but if anyone was expecting something more out of the guy that made Stevie Johnston quit in October 2007, I think we now know that spoke more to where Stevie Johnston is at these days. Reyes' biggest fight came when he lost a lopsided decision to Jose Luis Castillo in 2006. Diaz is the better fighter, and should win handily. Diaz TKO-7
And also on Saturday night, live on Showtime from Montreal...
Timothy Bradley v. Kendall Holt (Junior Welterweights, 12 Rounds - Bradley's WBC and Holt's WBO titles on the line)
Totally forgot about this fight on the original post, then Brickhaus brought it up in the comments. That sort of tells you what I think about this fight.
It's not a bad fight. In fact it's a good fight. It's admirable of both guys to take a matchup with the other. It just lacks any real sizzle. Perhaps the fact that I'm not a big fan of either guy handicaps my level of anticipation for this one.
I gotta go with Bradley, though. Better all-around fighter, probably just as good of a puncher as Holt, and hasn't been down 314 times in his career. But Bradley has been out of the ring since September, while Holt last fought in December, and that little bit of rustiness might make a difference. In truth this is a real pick'em. Who ya got? Bradley TKO-10
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Dinks Picks..
Edwin Valero KO 7
Michael Katsidis UD10
Vicente Escobedo TKO 8
Julio Diaz UD 10
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Bradley-Holt
Good call Bricky.
Bradley TKO 6
Pleased as punch this is being shown live over here at the weekend. Along with the Povetkin fight.
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I'll try to get the link to the Povetkin fight
It’s airing online, at least. I’m curious to see Pianeta again too. Not exciting by any stretch, but in this very weak heavyweight division, he could make some noice. I like him better than Dimitrenko, who’s very similar (but Pianeta is left handed and appears to have a better chin).
Vogt early, Vogt often.
Pixxx
Valero KO 9
Katsidis TKO 8
Escobedo UD
Diaz UD
And for the biggest fight this weekend (why no pick for this one?)
Bradley TKO8 Holt
Other bonus picks:
Pianeta boring UD over Sosnowski
Povetkin wide UD Estrada
Andrade TKO10 Tsypko, in another fight Tsypko is winning until Andrade finally catches up with him
Vogt early, Vogt often.
oh good lord
I COMPLETELY forgot Bradley-Holt. Good on ya.
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
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"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
Here we go
Valero tko 6
Katsidis tko 7
Escobedo Ud
Diaz tko 9
Bradley tko 7
My picks....
Valero KO-5
Katsidis KO-3
Escobedo UD
Diaz UD
Bradley UD
Does the fact a boxer doesn't switch weight divisions during their career detract from their overall P4P ranking?
Cos I'd take Hagler over most heavies in history, P4P, and also over "6 weight world champion" Oscar De La Hoya, and Marvellous Marvin never really messed about with his weight, did he?
man…. i could pick, but i’ve never seen most of these fighters fight and i dunno their competition, so I’m gonna hold off on prediciting unitl big fights where i konw both fighters, or i’m just lucky, or i’m picky contenders over journey which is rather easy. blah, anyway, what’s all the hype over valero? I’ve seen some of his fights, and the guy just throws, sometimes shots that are too wide and just kind overpowers pple. Not so impressive to me where a top notch guy can just pick him apart (since his defense seems questionable b/c he is so open when he throws). Oh well! :)
Valero looks spectacular in sparring
He’s never really done it in a real fight, but there was some video of him sparring top level guys in higher weight classes, and he was holding his own boxing them.
Vogt early, Vogt often.
Hype
Hype over Valero is that he got 24 knockouts out of 24 wins. Perfect.
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Jon Mugabi, Kermit Cintron, and Phillip Ndou and even Kelly Pavlik once had almost perfect KO records, and kind of crumbled against top tier opponents (ie- hagler, marga-cheato… i know, mayweather, bhop… etc. the ko record is not so impressive, its’ a dime a dozen agast bums and taxi drivers, but the impressive thing is how well they can fight, especially against top rated opponents…
Oh i agree mate. Valero has bowled over a lot of shit on the way up. Its what he starts doing now.
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No, but serious, I’m not trying to be a smartass. I really want to know what his positive qualities are other than his punch power. Like how many of his fights have you seen, which ones I should see…. etc… pple say he’ll be a match agst pacman, but of course based on what i’ve seen he’d be wiped clean in 5 rounds, but if he has abilites qualities i haven’t seen yet, he could be able to do well etc. Power can be neutralized by speed, timing, a good fight plan, footwork etc… just look at bhop pavlik. but yeah, lemme know man, i’m still new to valero. pc!
I know. Try You Tube because to be honest thats all i seen of him on there. Apart from his obvious power he looks awkward for opponants. I still wont be able to judge him for real as i doubt i will be seeing the fight live. Perhaps some of the more seasoned BLH posters can tell you a little more about him.
And yeh man speed kills..every time.
The fight with Mosquro was pretty good to watch. Valero had to get off the deck to win.
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Cool, but forget youtube. Check out boxingscene.com, then go to forums and “video trading block.” They got like every fight in history archived there and always post a recent fight the next day. Since then, i stepped up from youtube and their primal posters! :)
acutlaly if you to go page 2 of the video tradiing block, someone recently posted 3-4 valero fight, i saw one fo them and was like wth is valero? and i got bashed as bad as a “margarito hater” was ever. pc!
This is the one that got people excited
When he pretty much had his way with Erik Morales and was beating him to the punch.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_n_R3Uo8AjU
Vogt early, Vogt often.
http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=148
got it on my speed dial! Thanks for the video link!
yeah my critiism of that site is that the articles are great, but every inch of hte website is loaded with pop ups and spyware, and the posters are primarily gamblers, margarito nuthuggers, and douchebags, but the video trading block is unlike any other! you can search the forum and find any fight in history! amazing!
Pick the Tail on the Donkey. . .
Valero – KO 5
Katsidis – KO 8
Escobedo – UD
Diaz – KO 4
Bradley – KO 8
lol only keys and i picked holt … ya holts dodgy chin and habit of squaring up on the ropes worries me.
but holts the one with the experience, size, height, reach, power and i think as fast as bradley is holts faster … pick ‘em fight but i’ve gotta lean towards holt in this one …
picks
valero ko 5 – cant wait for this. should be good while it lasts.
katsidis tko 9 – chavez will have a case of the boom boom mancini’s and not be the same after tragedy. i dont think he stands a chance.
escobedo UD – famoso is shot. he gets a beat down.
diaz tko 10 – least interesting fight of them all for sure.
bradley ko 8 – bradley is just on another level. it shows and ends up with the ko late.
should be a fun weekend. hooray for illegal internet feeds. no bar is showing the lightweight ppv here.
Picks
Valero KO 8
Katsidis KO 5
Escobedo UD
Diaz KO 6
Holt KO 10
Valero KO 7
Katsidis KO 10
Escobedo UD
Diaz KO 9
Holt KO 8
The Dude Abides
by battle axe of doom on Apr 1, 2009 11:39 PM EDT reply actions
This time we have
Valero – KO 5th I got my fingers crossed that it will be the war we all hoping for
Katsidis – TKO 9th If Katsidis turns up as his old self he takes the fight and puts on a good show
Escobedo – UD He is the younger guy and his ring age is even less
Diaz TKO 8th Should win rather easily
Bradley TKO 6th Its definatly a pick ’em. Im leaning towards Bradley cause of chin
picks
Valero TKO 3 – This is going to be electric from the start. I just don’t envision Pitalua having the skill to avoid the same fate of all of Valero’s other opponents. I agree with the thought that Valero eventually gets in over his head but not here, not yet.
Chavez SD 10 – I like this one to be close perhaps even with a knockdown or two. After being thoroughly impressed with the Baby Bull against JMM, it is hard to fault Katsidis for looking outclassed in that fight. Still, I think Chavez has the guile to work his way through a rough moment or two in this one and do enough to eek it out.
Escobedo TKO 8 – I have never been more impressed with Vicente than I was against Salcido in his last fight on Telefutura. Escobedo was going to be GBP’s launching point for the brash Salcido. Salcido was even favored in the fight and Escobedo just overwhelmed him. I have no idea what Hernandez has left but I don’t think it is nearly enough to beat Escobedo, who I think has gone from a complete bust to perhaps a title contender.
Diaz UD 10 – Classic B fighter vs. C fighter here. I don’t think Diaz will shut Reyes out because I think Diaz has lost a step and never really was elite anyway. Still, If he keeps his workrate up, he’ll do enough to win 7 rounds or so.
Holt SD 12 – Very tempted to get wild and call for the draw here. This is a good pick ‘em fight. The knock on Holt of course is that he is about as chinny as it gets for a title holder. Like someone said earlier however, save for one career changing right hand, Bradley does not have the power to really cripple Holt. Holt’s defense is actually a notch better than Bradley. So while Bradley’s chin is more likely to hold up, Holt will still score his points because Bradley can be hit. Close fight, I’ll take Holt.
Bradley's power is underrated because his KO record isn't shiny
He’s knocked a bunch of guys down who he’s decisioned though. He just doesn’t change his gameplan at all once a guy is hurt, doesn’t go for the kill. I wish he did, and I’d be more confident that he’d beat Holt if that was his style. I think it’s pretty close to a pick em fight as well, and I’m surprised that so many people are picking Bradley.
Vogt early, Vogt often.
My Picks
Pitalua-Tko 6- I have to make at least one upset pick and Pitalua has got the artillery, the size and the hunger to pull off the upset.
Katsidis-TKO 5, the Kat is too young, hits too hard and is too strong and the knee of Chavez could give again if he’s forced to use his legs.
Escobedo UD 10- Haven’t seen much of Escobedo, but judging from prefight reporting he’s fresher than Hernandez and freshness counts.
Diaz TKO 9- Diaz is too good of a technician and has the better pedigree.
Bradley UD 12- Bradley has the better chin and I think he’ll put Holt down at least once of not twice to cinch the win on points, but I don’t think Bradley bangs hard enough to keep Holt down for the count.
Valero KO 8th
Katsidis KO 7th
Escobedo UD.
Diaz UD
Bradley UD
Andrade KO 8th
It is weak that people are only picking fights that they are sure of. It is just a prediction thread.
"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."
picks
Valero-KO 8
Katsidis-UD
Escobedo-UD
Diaz-KO 7
Bradley-KO 10
Ice's picks
She isn’t going to be near a computer before fight time, so she asked me to put these in.
Valero KO 7
Chavez KO 10
Diaz KO
Bradley UD
*Andrade KO 5
"I want to see ocean. I want to see black people. I want to see palms." - Wladimir Klitschko
Picks
Valero – KO4
Katsidis – TKO9
Escobedo – UD
Diaz – TKO8
Bradley – TKO10

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