Bad Left Hook Fight Night: Paul Williams v. Winky Wright
by SC on Apr 11, 2009 8:23 AM EDT
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HBO World Championship Boxing starts live at 10pm ET, and we'll be here with live, round-by-round coverage, scoring, analysis and BS for both fights. We hope you'll join us for the return of Winky Wright, and Paul Williams' first real test at 160 pounds!
Dan Rafael sums up what most of us probably expected out of this fight, plopped down in Vegas despite the fact that neither fighter has much of a following (despite both being great fighters):
Matt (Minneapolis): What is the atmosphere like out there? Will the fight draw 5,000? Kind of a weird fight from a fan standpoint since neither guy has a big following.
Dan Rafael: Atmosphere? There is none. It's dead dude.
Both photos by Will Hart at HBO.
| PAUL WILLIAMS | WINKY WRIGHT | |
| 36-1 | Record | 51-4-1 |
| 27 | KO | 25 |
| Augusta, GA | Hometown | Saint Petersburg, FL |
| 27 | Age | 37 |
| 6'1" | Height | 5'10 1/2" |
| 82" | Reach | 72" |
| Verno Phillips (TKO-8) Carlos Quintana (TKO-1) Antonio Margarito (UD-12) |
Notable Wins | Ike Quartey (UD-12) Felix Trinidad (UD-12) Shane Mosley (UD-12, MD-12) |
| Carlos Quintana (UD-12) | Notable Losses | Bernard Hopkins (UD-12) Fernando Vargas (MD-12) Harry Simon (MD-12) |
| CHRIS ARREOLA | JAMEEL MCCLINE | |
| 26-0 | Record | 39-9-3 |
| 23 | KO | 23 |
| Riverside, CA | Hometown | Harlem, NY |
| 28 | Age | 38 |
| 6'4" | Height | 6'6" |
| 77" | Reach | 82" |
| Travis Walker (TKO-3) Chazz Witherspoon (DQ-3) Thomas Hayes (KO-3) |
Notable Wins | Mike Mollo (UD-12) Terry Smith (UD-10) Rob Calloway (UD-10) |
| Notable Losses | John Ruiz (UD-12) Samuel Peter (UD-12) Nikolai Valuev (RTD-3) |
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One other Rafael chat quote:
Sherlock Holmes (Scottland Yard): I am following up on the WBA’s investigation of the Heavyweight fight between Holyfield and Vavlue, unfortuntely, the heavyweight division does not have a pulse. Seriously, what happened to that “investigation”?
Dan Rafael: There is no investigation. They’re full of crap. Come on. You believe the WBA? You must be smoking weed, smoking crack, drinking vodka or doing all three at once.
I like that since Dan doesn’t drink, “drinking vodka” is on par with smoking crack.
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
dan’s going to be in studio for FNF in two weeks from now. should be good to see good ol’ dan getting some quality air time
The Dude Abides
by battle axe of doom on Apr 11, 2009 5:51 PM EDT up reply actions
come to think of it
it really is a bone headed move to put this card in vegas.
both fighters have ties to florida, put the fight in florida.
Or SoCal
Where Arreola has a huge following.
As a Tampa native, I can say that Winky doesn’t draw any better in Tampa/St. Pete than he does anywhere else though. PW seems to actually draw best in Connecticut for some reason.
Vogt early, Vogt often.
Ming
I’m just watching Flash Gordon the Movie. Don’t ask why. There is an uncanny resenblance between Winky Wright and Ming the Merciless. I Take this as an Omen of a Paul Williams win!
McCline lost to Fernando Vargas?
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Yeah I know, it was a joke
Look at “notable losses” for McCline.
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and hopkins appearently
those should be under winkys record of course.
by sonofapsycho on Apr 11, 2009 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Thank God someone's here to clean up Scott's mess
Just kidding. The man’s a machine.
Vogt early, Vogt often.
i think he needs an intervention
i’ll call a&e
by sonofapsycho on Apr 11, 2009 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions
I AIN'T GOT NO PROBLEM
Yeah it was just a tired formatting mistake. My bad, y’all. Thanks, Brick.
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
by SC on Apr 11, 2009 7:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Scene or no scene, I’m still pumped for this fight. This may not be a war for the ages, but for me, this is as intriguing of a style match-up as we’ve seen this year. I know I’m in the minority here, but I have always loved watching Winky in the ring. Listening to him out of the ring? Not so much.
Boxing writer: "Iran, what are you going to do when you retire?"
Iran Barkley: "Rob your house"
I know what you mean
Getting excited for a Ronald Wright fight almost seems like an oxymoron… but I am weirdly popping wood for this thing. I can’t explain it… much of it has to do with finally seeing Wink fight a fellow southpaw, and a young, freakish one at that. If Winky emerges from this career coma and whoops PW’s butt? How crazy would that be? His ticket to Canastota would arrive pre-punched.
I am less than thrilled about bearing witness to Arreola-McCline. I am praying for an early kayo… anything past six rounds will be downright fugly to watch.
"I want to see ocean. I want to see black people. I want to see palms." - Wladimir Klitschko
what was call for Williams/Wright?
Boxing writer: "Iran, what are you going to do when you retire?"
Iran Barkley: "Rob your house"
heheh, you are going to laugh
I have Williams stopping Winky late. I might have lost my mind entirely.
"I want to see ocean. I want to see black people. I want to see palms." - Wladimir Klitschko
Bold call. I picked a Wright upset. I believe this is only the second time we have disagreed on a winner.
Boxing writer: "Iran, what are you going to do when you retire?"
Iran Barkley: "Rob your house"
Really?
I have a feeling we’ve picked different more than twice…. as a matter of fact, I’m pretty sure YOU got HORRIBLY ROBBED in the Cintron/Martinez fight, whereas I got gifted a draw there.
"I want to see ocean. I want to see black people. I want to see palms." - Wladimir Klitschko
That’s right. I had forgotten about that. I had a hard time not whining after that one. Or maybe I forgot the whining too. Anyway, looking forward to chatting it up in the thread tonight. Calabacita is out of town visiting her mother, so I’ll be able to give the live thread a lot more attention tonight.
Boxing writer: "Iran, what are you going to do when you retire?"
Iran Barkley: "Rob your house"
"I am weirdly popping wood for this thing."
Promptly whistles and begins to walk away from scene
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I actually want this to go the full 12
for Chris’s sake. If he gasses the hell out after 8 or 9 rounds, maybe he’ll start taking his training more seriously. And if he doesn’t, then maybe we’re all just underestimating him and he actually is in shape.
Vogt early, Vogt often.
Arreola reminds me a little of Witherspoon
Except that Tim was actually in shape early in his career. I don’t really care about what guys look like in there, but the extreme laziness on display just irks me because of how often it results in awful fights. It’s true that Chris could turn out to be some kind of freak and converts flab to gasoline (it happens), but I’m not betting on it. The McCline fight could actually be designed to make Chris look in shape by comparison, you know?
"I want to see ocean. I want to see black people. I want to see palms." - Wladimir Klitschko
If anyone watched FNF last night
DeMarcus Corley got robbed against unbeaten prospect Hector Sanchez. Despite knocking Sanchez down in the 3rd round and sending him on the defense, the judges gave Sanchez the unanimous decision win 77-74. The Arizona crowd booed the decision and Oscar De La Hoya also agreed that Chop Chop won. No way did Sanchez deserve that.
In the main event, David Lopez comfortably beat Ossie Duran in a so-so match in which neither fighter was in serious trouble.
Easily the worst FNF on the season.
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I agree with you on all counts.
Boxing writer: "Iran, what are you going to do when you retire?"
Iran Barkley: "Rob your house"
Yup
I thought Corley won as well. I thought Lopez-Duran was actually pretty close. Lopez dominated the first four rounds, but it went back and forth a lot after that. I had it 96-94 Lopez, but could have seen it as a draw. Duran really seemed to figure Lopez out and exploit his flaws about halfway through the fight.
Vogt early, Vogt often.
I guess I'm in the minority
I think Sanchez held up well and did well for a young boxer after being shaken and knocked down in the 3rd round. He seemed to wobble Corley a couple of times later on in the fight. He showed poise and I think he deserved the desicion. Him and Corley certainly should have a rematch sometime soon.
Lopez looked good but Duran gave a good account of himself showing a good chin. Now that Lopez has stepped down to Junior Middleweight I’d like to seem him in there against Kirkland or Angulo.
If Duran could get to Lopez consistently
Either of those guys would kill him. Lopez has a good chance against certain types of fighters, but he should be focusing on veterans, not the kids coming up.
Vogt early, Vogt often.
Photos
I am going to thank Will Hart if I ever run into him. Cropping out Christobal’s Areolas was the best aethetic choice since blurring out Dennis Franz’s ass on NYPD Blue.
"I want to see ocean. I want to see black people. I want to see palms." - Wladimir Klitschko
Greetings From the UK
I’m going to follow tonight’s fights on the thread and online. The fight is not being shown in Britain tonight which is frustrating. it might be a long night.
I’m currently watching the UK TV card involving Heavyweight Prospect Tyson Fury.
Let us know how that one goes.
Hopefully, Fury can avoid beating himself up this time.
Vogt early, Vogt often.
His opponent Ellis went in Kamikaze style
The Guy was 6ft at best against fury at 6’ 8" approx. try to put Fury on the back foot by coming forward at 100mph. Needless to say it was less than bright. Fury threw out the jab (which is sharp for such a big guy) and then knocked him down with a big hook. Another Knock down and the referee waved it off.
Fury didn’t even get the chance to puch himself in the face. How Rude!
Okay...
so I’ll be watching this fight on a delay as I have to cover the Strikeforce show on Showtime for BloodyElbow but still am intrigued as Wright/Williams is really interesting.
I’m not a huge Chris Nipple fan but he is a potential “star” (god we’re desperate for stars at HW). I haven’t kept up on McCline for a looong time. What’s he looking like these days? Just a lumbering oaf smashing tomato cans and losing to anyone of value in the division?
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by Brent Brookhouse on Apr 11, 2009 4:35 PM EDT reply actions
It will be hard for me to sit thru the fight with family around… it isn’t a fight that you tell everyone… hey… come and see this.
"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."
He’s not even smashing the cans. He’s lost three of his last four (Ruiz, Peter, Valuev) but he beat club fighter extraordinaire Mike Mollo last time out, so hey, there’s that.
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
by SC on Apr 11, 2009 7:27 PM EDT up reply actions
He did knockout Marcus Rhode!
Rhode seems to be the fighter for prospects and has-beens to knockout.
He has fought McCline, Vitali Klitschko, Riddick Bowe, Lou Savarese, Travis Walker, Tommy Morrison, Eddie Chambers, Kevin McBride, Shannon Briggs, Lamon Brewster, and Calvin Brock. ALL knockout losses.
Is this for real?
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If Wright wins
Does that set up a rematch with B-Hop? Would anyone be interested in that fight? And if Arreola wins does that mean he gets one of the Klitschkos next? Even though Wladimir has Haye in June and a mandatory with Povetkin first.
by pretty boy floyd on Apr 11, 2009 4:37 PM EDT reply actions
I wouldn’t mind seeing Winky fighting either of those two. Well, let me see how he looks tonight
by pretty boy floyd on Apr 11, 2009 5:44 PM EDT up reply actions
a pavlik vs wink fight would be pretty boring. winky’s tight defense is built up around blocking off any straight rights (pavlik’s money punch) isn’t it?
The Dude Abides
by battle axe of doom on Apr 11, 2009 5:57 PM EDT up reply actions
very good point. I guess I just like both fighters so much that I would just enjoy seeing them fight each other. But styles do make fights and Winky’s has never been conducive to exciting fights
by pretty boy floyd on Apr 11, 2009 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions
anyone?
watching the thrilla in manila documentary?
ali makes me sick. amazing what he got away with saying.
nothing i didn't know before
i seen alot of this footage before but this is the first time where they are actually giving joe’s side and has any kind of sympathy for him.
long, long overdue.
by sonofapsycho on Apr 11, 2009 8:57 PM EDT up reply actions
pretty much
I mean I’ve read so much on that fight, but then I’m not the world’s biggest Ali fan. Obviously he’s an icon and arguably the greatest of all-time, but I don’t think I’d have been an Ali fan.
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
by SC on Apr 11, 2009 8:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Ali gets his comeuppance pretty often...
Not that I disagree. Frazier was one of his best wins, and he was a smallish heavyweight who was basically one-armed. I think Ali was pretty damn far from a master boxer… but he was a freak of nature in some respects and his style was in service of his instincts and his physicality. I was talking to Kenny Weldon baout this not too long ago, and we were talking about how many punches Ali had in comparison to other great heavies. Kenny counted four (I said five, but I could see what he meant): Left jab, straight right upstairs, left jab to the body, right uppercut. I also thought Ali could throw a pretty good right hand to the body… but not against someone like Frazier, who would’ve decapitated him with that left hook from Hades. Holmes was a far better, far more complete fighter than either of them in my opinion.
"I want to see ocean. I want to see black people. I want to see palms." - Wladimir Klitschko
agreed
ali is a bit overrated. just as holmes just said.
alis speed, jaw, and legs were some of the best of all time.
by sonofapsycho on Apr 11, 2009 9:09 PM EDT up reply actions
watched it a few months back when it was broadcast here
Its a great piece of film. does a wonderful job of portraying just how grueling that fight was.
But its also worth noting that its told from Frasier’s perspective. Theres two sides to every story of course, and in such a heated rivalry you are going to see some of a persons less admirable qualities to. It is definitely interesting to see Ali reflected in that way though. Its something you very rarely see
Would be better if it was just a little more objective
I know there is some pretty one sided pro-Ali stuff out there, but this is almost a joke with just how pro-Frazier this is. Frazier could have written this himself.
It’s a shame because a lot of this is important stuff that every boxing fan should know, but this thing is almost laughable in the way it minimizes Ali’s boxing skills.
dont see that
i dont see where its minimizing alis boxing skills.
granted they dont have any nation of islam people defending alis actions but i dont see where they are trashing his skills.
by sonofapsycho on Apr 11, 2009 9:08 PM EDT up reply actions
gonna watch it on demand later
Watching the O’s game until 24/7 starts.
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
by SC on Apr 11, 2009 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m waiting to see if they show the clips of Frazier mocking Ali’s disability.
Boxing writer: "Iran, what are you going to do when you retire?"
Iran Barkley: "Rob your house"
what goes around
you should get fraziers book. he slams him the entire book.
he definetly let loose and didn’t hold back. got a ton off his check
by sonofapsycho on Apr 11, 2009 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Well
To be fair, they certainly showed Ali calling him an “ignorant gorilla” enough.
"I want to see ocean. I want to see black people. I want to see palms." - Wladimir Klitschko
not to mention
stupid, and uncle tom.
even ferdie just called him stupid.
by sonofapsycho on Apr 11, 2009 9:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Watching Ali and Frazier’s astonishing work rate in the late rounds in the heat says a lot about where the HW division is at now. The kind of heart and determination these two showed is unfathomable for today’s heavies.
Boxing writer: "Iran, what are you going to do when you retire?"
Iran Barkley: "Rob your house"
indeed
pretty amazing how far south the quality has gone, some guys today cant get past 3 rounds without getting winded.
by sonofapsycho on Apr 11, 2009 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions
alot has to do with the way heavyweight boxing has got. Most of the guys are big lumbering giants nowadays. Back then Heavyweights on average were smaller and quicker. I would like to see a smaller guy win the title (im looking at u david haye), just to encourage more fast paced heavyweights again. In recent years the only successful guys at HW are the big giants
wow
willie the worm.
theres a name i haven’t heard in a while.
he used to ref some of the old tuesday night fights that were at the blue horizon.
all these philly guys, its fun to watch.
I already knew a lot of this information but seeing the way they put it together, it makes you weep for the slander that Frazier took from Ali all those years.
"A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants on." - Sir Winston Churchill
As far as I’m concerned, Ali’s relative greatness as a fighter is very debatable. But as time goes by it’s getting clearer and clearer that he was a Pound-for-Pound All Time Jerk.
"I want to see ocean. I want to see black people. I want to see palms." - Wladimir Klitschko
Ali talked this way to many of his opponents. And most of them laughed it off.
It’s a two way street. Ali had the mouth, but Joe had the insecurity… Blaming Joe’s reaction entirely on Ali is misguided.
Boxing writer: "Iran, what are you going to do when you retire?"
Iran Barkley: "Rob your house"
by Matt Miller on Apr 11, 2009 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Ali had a bigger agenda too. He was a civil rights leader and that was in part at Frazier’s expense.
Ali was a civil rights leader...
In the same way that Malcolm X, Louis Farrakan and Angela Davis were “civil rights leaders”… for many, many people, there was nothing remotely “civil” or “right” about them.
"I want to see ocean. I want to see black people. I want to see palms." - Wladimir Klitschko
Let's not get into politics here please.
Boxing writer: "Iran, what are you going to do when you retire?"
Iran Barkley: "Rob your house"
Maybe
But a black man being taunted as an “ignorant gorilla” and an “uncle tom” in the 1960’s was over all kinds of lines and flat-out disgusting. I would bet that in his dotage, even Ali feels bad about some of the things he said. Ali could be incredibly persobable, funny and intelligent at times, but the sort of stuff he said to Joe was truly was truly horrible.
"I want to see ocean. I want to see black people. I want to see palms." - Wladimir Klitschko
He may have talked that way to many of his opponents, but why talk that way to the man who got you your life back? Without Joe Frazier, Ali wasn’t Ali. And that’s the truth. To thank the man who got you your life back by slandering him with racial overtones is one of the most heinous I may have ever seen in my life. It may have been promoting a fight but it was promoting more than that, things that it shouldn’t have ever promoted. To do that makes Ali look ten times worse than he probably truly ever was. Frazier deserved better from Ali.
"A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants on." - Sir Winston Churchill
Without Joe Frazier, Ali wasn’t Ali. And that’s the truth. To thank the man who got you your life back by slandering him with racial overtones is one of the most heinous I may have ever seen in my life.
Don’t you think you’re exaggerating just a tad? You really believe that somehow Joe Frazier made Ali? The opposite it true.
Boxing writer: "Iran, what are you going to do when you retire?"
Iran Barkley: "Rob your house"
It’s true. Ali wasn’t Ali until after his fights with Frazier. All his great lines were against Frazier. Without Frazier getting Ali his license back, Ali wouldn’t be remembered as he is now.
"A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants on." - Sir Winston Churchill
You clearly have a personal beef with Ali, and I’m going to leave it at that.
Boxing writer: "Iran, what are you going to do when you retire?"
Iran Barkley: "Rob your house"
Actually, I don’t. I’m a huge Frazier fan but I’m pretty unbiased. Difference is that I reviewed all the facts even before this documentary came out. Find the truth, it’ll help.
"A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants on." - Sir Winston Churchill
by FlyByKnight on Apr 11, 2009 11:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Neither would Frazier
Yes, Ali’s greatness was cemented in the 1970’s, but if Ali never fought again after being stripped of the title, Frazier would have always been looked at as illegitimate to a certain degree whose most memorable fight would have been getting demolished by George Foreman.
marvis
everytime i see him i get the vision of mike tyson almost removing his head from his shoulders.
Or Holmes
Man Marvis was bad. He is in my pool of worst all-time heavyweight challengers, including Lou Savarese, Tex Cobb and Don Cockell.
"I want to see ocean. I want to see black people. I want to see palms." - Wladimir Klitschko
I have a book by Howard Cosell "What's Wrong With Sports"
In his book he interviewed Joe and then 14 year old Marvis about the former’s boxing career.
Howard: How do you feel about your father in boxing?
Marvis: I hate it.
Howard: Why?
Marvis: I worry every time he goes into the ring. I worry he’ll get hurt.
Howard: Despite your fear, do you want to be a boxer? Do you want to follow in your father’s footsteps.
Marvis: No, I don’t want to be a boxer. I don’t want to grow up and fight.
Well, you know the outcome.
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tex
he was a beast. sure could take a punch.
i actually met him on the subway here in philly. he was going home from taking classes at temple.
nicest guy in the world. he singed my ko magazine i had in my bookbag.
I thought that documentary was a crock. It showed one facet of Ali and implied that it fitted his whole character. It omitted the things Frazier said and did and overlooked that something was off with Frazier to begin with for him to react that way. To say it was one-sided is a deep understatement.
Even the most laudatory Ali documentary acknowledged Ali’s cruel mouth, but this documentary seemed to have been written by Frazier’s kid or something.
Boxing writer: "Iran, what are you going to do when you retire?"
Iran Barkley: "Rob your house"
quit crying
something was off with frazier that made him react that way? wtf?
you make it sound he was asking to be harassed and be called a gorilla and uncle tom by the man who he helped while he was down and out. what ali did and said was inexcusable and cruel.
it was a documentary about the fight and the rivalry as a whole. wasn’t an documentary on the men themselves and ever aspect of their lives and beliefs.
by sonofapsycho on Apr 11, 2009 9:41 PM EDT up reply actions
It’s called criticism of a film. No personal attacks please.
Yes, I believe that anyone who lets mere words change them as much as Frazier let Ali affect him is a little off. The fact that he couldn’t let it go—even after Ali apologized and called him his greatest opponent—supports my case. Even after Ali’s disability set in, Frazier couldn’t let it go, mocking him for his mental state.
That’s not normal. I think saying Frazier was a little off with regard to Ali is an understatement, actually.
Boxing writer: "Iran, what are you going to do when you retire?"
Iran Barkley: "Rob your house"
dont see where i attacked you but ok.
obvious we aren’t going to agree on about anything.
id just say put yourself in joes shoes and see if you come out all fine and dandy.
by sonofapsycho on Apr 11, 2009 9:53 PM EDT up reply actions
"Quit crying" is a personal attack me thinks.
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just for reference
“Quit crying” could’ve been left out. The post would’ve been the same without it. That’s really all the issue is, and it’s not a big deal. Everyone’s cool, life goes on.
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
by SC on Apr 11, 2009 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions
all's good in the hood
moving on the 24/7
by sonofapsycho on Apr 11, 2009 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions
You know what? I think this is the first 24/7 I’ve seen where there’s not a hint of bullshit. These gus are fighters, in their primes, two of the best in the world, two of the best trainers in the world (who don’t like each other), two of the most popular fighters in the world. This is already making me put into perspective just how big this fight is in all ways.
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
It was good to see Joe not be tacitly called an "uncle tom" by a film for once...
And really, even this film managed to slip that insinuation in an casually ugly montage. It wasn’t a perfect film, but it was better than the standard fare…. and WORLDS better than the horrible, cloying account in Will Smith’s “Ali.”
"I want to see ocean. I want to see black people. I want to see palms." - Wladimir Klitschko
The Will Smith movie didn’t purport to be a documentary, though.
Boxing writer: "Iran, what are you going to do when you retire?"
Iran Barkley: "Rob your house"
Fair enough
"I want to see ocean. I want to see black people. I want to see palms." - Wladimir Klitschko
was still a bio
should have a true account.
by sonofapsycho on Apr 11, 2009 9:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah dude that's a movie
There’s a reason why everything is “based on a true story”.
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Pacquiao beating up De La Hoya is one of my favorite beatdowns in my short lifetime
But nothing will ever beat Mayweather/Gatti in one-sided long drawn whippings.
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haha
pacman and de la hoya was a pretty fun to see. one of my all time favs for sure.
by sonofapsycho on Apr 11, 2009 9:45 PM EDT up reply actions
The best part about that fight
Is that De La Hoya couldn’t have possibly whined his way to saying he won the fight (See: Trinidad, Mosley, and Mayweather fights).
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Mayweather-Corrales for me
Corrales would not quit. It was ridiculous.
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
by SC on Apr 11, 2009 9:48 PM EDT up reply actions
The Gatti one was the best for me (and my dad)
Because of how badly Gatti lost. Not just that, but Buddy McGirt saying “just keep the jab going” was just hilarious to watch over and over again.
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MOORER!
Good to see him.
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
whoa
Billy Graham
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
Stop giving us close ups of Mayweather without warning.
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I'm really liking the focus on that aspect
Seems risky, but also seems pretty smart.
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
by SC on Apr 11, 2009 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions
I never liked Moorer as a boxer to tell you the truth, esp how he acted after the Foreman fight.
"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."
Clocking Moorer
Was the sole highlight of Foreman’s second career. That and the grills… I loved that damned grill.
"I want to see ocean. I want to see black people. I want to see palms." - Wladimir Klitschko
it's STILL great
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
by SC on Apr 11, 2009 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions
I use it the wrong way, I think
I use the drippings as sauce… just the way that god intended.
"I want to see ocean. I want to see black people. I want to see palms." - Wladimir Klitschko
What did Hatton sing about balls?
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well this was a great first episode
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
They should have found a way
to have Bobby Pacquiao vs Matthew Hatton on the undercard.
Vogt early, Vogt often.
yeah who dropped the ball there
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
haha
i think it would have been fun to watch
by sonofapsycho on Apr 11, 2009 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah probably
And what are they doing?
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
and on to the fights!
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
Jim, Larry and Manny tonight I believe
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
yep
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
Good enough
If Lennox isn’t in the house, I’ll won’t have to mute half as much.
"I want to see ocean. I want to see black people. I want to see palms." - Wladimir Klitschko
Great
Larry…………Merchant……..is……….the analyst……….for………………..tonight’s fight.
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F Valuev
He’s not in my top ten.
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
hes awful
for sure. but hes still a “belt holder” as they love to call them.
by sonofapsycho on Apr 11, 2009 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions
who cares?
I don’t think he beat Evander, who wouldn’t be in my top 30.
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
they always put the “belt holders” in their top of the division lists is all.
by sonofapsycho on Apr 11, 2009 10:06 PM EDT up reply actions
usually, yeah
I agree it’s odd but I’m not going to shed a tear for Valuev.
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
His best clear win was Monte Barrett
He robbed Donald, he arguably lost to Ruiz, he robbed Holyfield, McCline was winning before he busted his knee. Valuev has gotten a lot of helpful judging and good luck.
Vogt early, Vogt often.
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
by SC on Apr 11, 2009 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
More of a special effect than a boxer to me
He would have been King in the seventies… they would’ve had him fighting James Bond and Bruce Lee in Outer Space… they have computers for that stuff now.
"I want to see ocean. I want to see black people. I want to see palms." - Wladimir Klitschko
Well said.
Boxing writer: "Iran, what are you going to do when you retire?"
Iran Barkley: "Rob your house"
by Matt Miller on Apr 11, 2009 10:09 PM EDT up reply actions
WHOA HBO!
Eddie Chambers 34-1 with 1 KO? Your graphic is off.
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Might as well
What decent fighters as he KOed? He only has like 13 or something.
Vogt early, Vogt often.
Oberon and 1800 this week
I’ve downgraded.
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
Fresca here
Trying to boil down myself a bit. Started to look too much like Arreola.
Vogt early, Vogt often.
Dogfishhead 90 minute IPA (about 10% ABV, so I should be pretty loose pretty fast).
Boxing writer: "Iran, what are you going to do when you retire?"
Iran Barkley: "Rob your house"
by Matt Miller on Apr 11, 2009 10:10 PM EDT up reply actions
that's what I'm going for with the 1800
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
Let this torture begin.
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Lampley: Both fighters are big hitters.
Yeah he’s on drugs again tonight.
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Big night for combat sports. Any of these 2 fatass guys have a chance to be legit HWs?
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Arreola if he cares enough
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
Arreola has a lot of potential, but just doesn't seem to take training seriously enough
He’s actually regressed in his last 5 fights.
Vogt early, Vogt often.
He doesn't look like he's done any sort of cardio, or situps for that matter...
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
he does sit-ups
He just takes a bite of a chalupa when he gets there.
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
Jelly Belly!
"I want to see ocean. I want to see black people. I want to see palms." - Wladimir Klitschko
Good right hand from Arreola
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Two body shots by Arreola and an overhand right by him
I think McCline is already hurt.
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Arreola-McCline R1
Nice titties, Chris. Hey, it’s Tony Weeks. I wish he’d get more big fights. Him and Jay Nady.
Arreola with a right to the body in the middle of McCline pumping a jab that isn’t landing. Arreola to the body, right lands upstairs. Arreola with another right upstairs, but they aren’t landing square. He’s still finding his distance. Arreola digs a right to the body as they clinch up. He’s keeping his hands up and not letting any of McCline’s slow punches get through. Arreola just misses a home run uppercut. Right stings McCline, and Jameel clinches up immediately. Jameel doesn’t look comfortable with Chris’ power at all.
Arreola putting punches together, sitting down on them, and that first round is the best he’s looked in a while.
Arreola 10-9
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
Arreola has a bad straight right
Bad in the good way
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SSR's Scorecard: 10-9 Arreola
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Jelly Belly Region!
"I want to see ocean. I want to see black people. I want to see palms." - Wladimir Klitschko
enough of the jelly belly's
god i hate these idiots
was funny the first time they said it. now its getting ridiculous.
I can handle Papa, Lederman, Kellerman and Steward
The rest are useless.
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by SSreporters on Apr 11, 2009 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions
This fight's gonna end early
McCline has landed just 5 punches in this round.
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Arreola-McCline R2
I’m not saying Arreola needs to be shredded or built like a Klitschko, but the man jiggles standing still. He looks like he works out about as much as I do and that can’t be right, you know?
Arreola going after him, pressing him to the ropes, but when he sees nothing he doesn’t get sloppy. He’s letting this fight go where it goes and taking advantage of the moments where he can land. McCline throws some big shots that graze Arreola. Chris comes back nicely. Hard right stuns McCline, and Jameel is covering up and clinching again. Jameel looks gassed, too.
McCline is absent offensively, which is too bad. This is turning into sparring very quickly.
Arreola 10-9
Arreola 20-18
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
SSR's Scorecard: 20-18 Arreola
It’s a waste of time. McCline should be done soon.
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Arreola knocked down Sam Peter 3 times? Merchant are you past your bedtime?
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I thought McCline said he was going to jab like Kitschko…
uh, yeah.
Boxing writer: "Iran, what are you going to do when you retire?"
Iran Barkley: "Rob your house"
He's certainly holding like Klitschko
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by SSreporters on Apr 11, 2009 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions
WHOA! MCCLINE CAUGHT ARREOLA!!
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That's why Arreola needs to lose weight, gain some quickness...
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Arreola-McCline R3
Arreola doesn’t let Jameel clinch up the first time this round, boxing a little dirty and throwing where he can. Good for him. That’s what he should do. McCline appears to have almost no spirit in there. Arreola’s shots upstairs are starting to thud. He still doesn’t have his best range (which could be credit to Jameel), but he’s finding it better now. McCline with a right now, and a pretty good one. And they’re tying up some more.
Arreola coming forward, caught with a left hook and stunned! His legs buckled juuust a bit. Arreola damn near got caught for serious on that one. And another left hook lands moments later. He’s found a punch. Ball is in Arreola’s court now.
Arreola with a left uppercut, and Jameel ends the round looking tired again. But he lands another left hook, and another! Boy, that’s a tough round to call. I think Jameel just barely stole it.
McCline 10-9
Arreola 29-28
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
I'm going to give McCline the round there. Landed better shots and hurt Arreola there.
29-28 Arreola
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Come on Merchant stop these "fat jokes". We get it.
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yeah, it's really enough
They’re like a bunch of four year olds that made the adults laugh once and now won’t stop doing the same thing.
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
Arreola's gassing too. This is pathetic.
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
You spoke too soon.
Boxing writer: "Iran, what are you going to do when you retire?"
Iran Barkley: "Rob your house"
by Matt Miller on Apr 11, 2009 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions
DOWN GOES MCCLINE ON A RIGHT HOOK!
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Arreola-McCline R4
Arreola with a long right to start the round. Yeah, he’s starting fast this round, and he’s laying in some good leather. Nice combination punches, hard shots at the end, McCline is backing down some. McCline stung, and hit again, AND DOWN!
Jameel doesn’t look like he has any desire. It’s over.
Chris Arreola KO-4
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
IT IS OVER!!!! A KNOCKOUT WIN FOR ARREOLA!
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So he can hop over to the buffet.
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by SSreporters on Apr 11, 2009 10:22 PM EDT up reply actions
of course he quit
He was hand-picked to do exactly what he did. Old, not into the fight game anymore, but hey here’s a good paycheck.
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
As an aside, its hard to watch 2 fights at once
Especially when both fights feature mediocre heavyweights.
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i know right
i have the strikeforce going at the bottom of my screen from a online feed
by sonofapsycho on Apr 11, 2009 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Well, despite its flaws, that’s probably about as good as we could have hoped for that fight to be.
Boxing writer: "Iran, what are you going to do when you retire?"
Iran Barkley: "Rob your house"
Yep, yep, yep
My thoughts exactly.
"I want to see ocean. I want to see black people. I want to see palms." - Wladimir Klitschko
Thank you Mr. Nipples
I really didn’t want to see a “Round 11” with these two… that said, it wasn’t a bad fight at all.
"I want to see ocean. I want to see black people. I want to see palms." - Wladimir Klitschko
Is the MMA worth flipping to between fights? Anyone?
Boxing writer: "Iran, what are you going to do when you retire?"
Iran Barkley: "Rob your house"
Radach/Smith should be a war.
But besides that and the main even nothing is exciting.
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cyborg!
shes fun to watch. shes up next
by sonofapsycho on Apr 11, 2009 10:26 PM EDT up reply actions
She's fat and fighting a can, who cares
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I think they're booing Larry! ;-)
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power punch stats
Arreola: 65/104, 63%
McCline: 13/49, 27%
Apparently he wants to be known as Cristobal. Make up your mind, dude!
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
“Larry Merchant, whoo! Larry merchant, whoo!”
—Chris Arreola
Boxing writer: "Iran, what are you going to do when you retire?"
Iran Barkley: "Rob your house"
"They came in there and worked my ass off"
No… No they truly didn’t Chris.
"I want to see ocean. I want to see black people. I want to see palms." - Wladimir Klitschko
Surprised to hear him say he wasn't hurt
He looked hurt, and he’s been very up front about when he’s been hurt before.
Vogt early, Vogt often.
He was hurt
Chris is extremely hittable, especially when he starts throwing combinations… he comes up funky and clunky.
"I want to see ocean. I want to see black people. I want to see palms." - Wladimir Klitschko
he's such a good dude
I really hate busting on him at all.
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
Affable, sure
But I don’t know how good of a dude he actually is. Chico Corrales seemed like a great guy in his post-fight interviews, and he did some pretty bad things outside of the ring.
Anyway, I just with Arreola had a better work ethic.
Vogt early, Vogt often.
couple of class dudes
I hate busting on Arreola, he’s a nice guy.
McCline: “Is he blazin’? No, but he just beat me.”
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
I really like him too
But I really want to see him take a big step. Believe it or not, I think Chagaev-Arreola might be a decent fight.
"I want to see ocean. I want to see black people. I want to see palms." - Wladimir Klitschko
Come on, Zuri "ZERO KNOCKOUTS" Lawrence beat McCline. This ain't too special.
But it was a good knockout.
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Zuri Lawrence would have been a beltholder if he had ANY power at all
He’s outboxed a lot of very good heavyweights, just they end up beating him at the end of the day because they can walk through his punches.
Vogt early, Vogt often.
THERE'S ONLY OOOOONE
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
Dawson/Tarver on May 9th. That has the possibility to be the most bornig fight of the year.
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don't worry, it could be as bad as the last one and not stand out when the year is done
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
Already saw the first one
No reason to think the second would be any different. Rematch clauses should have a dominance out. If you don’t win a couple rounds, you don’t get the rematch. Malignaggi-N’Dou was another one that was completely useless and a waste of time.
Vogt early, Vogt often.
Am I the only one who doesn't like hatton?
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probably
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
i dont really care for him
probably cause he ended kostya tszyus career though
cant get passed that. yet.
by sonofapsycho on Apr 11, 2009 10:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Now I feel like a jerk :<
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I mean
I can pick at his in-ring flaws but otherwise there’s nothing I don’t like about him. Promotes his fights, makes good fights, and takes on good opponents. Who else has twice taken a fight with the reigning P4P king in the last two years, you know?
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
Well
I don’t consider RIcky to be a “boxer” but more of a brawler with unpolished boxing skills. But I don’t “hate” him.
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by SSreporters on Apr 11, 2009 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions
I like Hatton, but I have a hard time understanding his reputation as an “action fighter.”
Boxing writer: "Iran, what are you going to do when you retire?"
Iran Barkley: "Rob your house"
by Matt Miller on Apr 11, 2009 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Why am I watching the murder thats about to happen on strikeforce :|
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im thinking upset!!
or a beat down of epic proportions
by sonofapsycho on Apr 11, 2009 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Ugly and unwatchable*
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Interviews like these strengthen my irritation with Lampley.
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Sad sad state
When Sergio Mora can be considered a top 6 middleweight and I don’t really bat an eyelash about it.
Vogt early, Vogt often.
Agreed
Boxing writer: "Iran, what are you going to do when you retire?"
Iran Barkley: "Rob your house"
by Matt Miller on Apr 11, 2009 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't consider him a top 6 middleweight...
HBO does. HBO also considers Lennox Lewis a viable analyst.
"I want to see ocean. I want to see black people. I want to see palms." - Wladimir Klitschko
heh
Seriously though, there is no good #6. The Mundine-Geale winner will make a true #6, but right now, all that’s there is Khoren Gevor who got killed by Arthur Abraham, Mundine who’s looked like crap for the last couple years, and a whole bunch of nothing else.
Vogt early, Vogt often.
Larry Merchant's analogies and jokes are cringeworthy.
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He should have been headed to the glue factory years ago
But too many old timers get nostalgic, and HBO keeps re-upping him. Doesn’t hurt that Kellerman really isn’t much better.
Vogt early, Vogt often.
Wow lotsa hate at Larry coming your way.
"I want to see ocean. I want to see black people. I want to see palms." - Wladimir Klitschko
I've become increasingly intolerant of announcers today
Compared to the fights I’ve seen on ESPN Classic featuring the old ABC commentary in the 1970s this is garbage. Too much talking, too many guys in the booth, and we used to have analysts who actually fought in the ring (unlike Larry).
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by SSreporters on Apr 11, 2009 10:40 PM EDT up reply actions
I sort of like him
It’s probably half a nostalgian thing, but in between all the drunken nonsense there have been a great line or three.
"I want to see ocean. I want to see black people. I want to see palms." - Wladimir Klitschko
I’m a fan. Even when he’s a clown, Merchant is entertaining. Especially when he’s a clown, actually.
Boxing writer: "Iran, what are you going to do when you retire?"
Iran Barkley: "Rob your house"
by Matt Miller on Apr 11, 2009 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Manny is making me feel like a dummy for picking Wright right now.
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Iran Barkley: "Rob your house"
Wright's from St. Pete so I am obligated to root for him
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I feel no such obligation
I still root for the Tampa Bay home teams (obviously), but I’ve never been a fan of Winky Wright or Milk Dud Tarver.
Vogt early, Vogt often.
I hate tarver, but I always walk past winky's old gym so I have a connection
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what have they been doing there for the last two years?
BIngo?
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
I sweare to god they haven't changed their banner congratulating winky since 2005.
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weights tonight
Wright: 168
PW: 165
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
bells for Artie Curry?
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
bells for Artie Curry?
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
I was just wondering if that's what they were doing
Glad they are. Sounded like a great, great guy.
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
What kind of Winky Wright will show up tonight?
Boxing writer: "Iran, what are you going to do when you retire?"
Iran Barkley: "Rob your house"
The boring Winky Wright?
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by SSreporters on Apr 11, 2009 10:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Same Winky as always, just a bit slower and a bit less workrate
I’m guessing. Not shot, but certainly faded.
Vogt early, Vogt often.
so did Jim
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
That fade out on the chair was pretty touching, actually.
Boxing writer: "Iran, what are you going to do when you retire?"
Iran Barkley: "Rob your house"
Wow, there's some cheesy walk-in music
I feel like this is an Arthur Abraham fight
Vogt early, Vogt often.
ok, Larry wins one there
“The notion that everyone’s running from [Williams] is largely just a promotional myth.”
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
I don't really agree
Margarito turned down $4M for a Williams rematch to fight Mosley for half as much.
Vogt early, Vogt often.
Larry: "Well Winky is--"
Cut off by Winky video. Welcome to the new age, Larry.
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
largely given away
Seriously.
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
+1 Larry again
“If you talk to [Winky], he beat Hearns, Hagler and Leonard all in the same night.”
You just don’t get that in other sports.
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
YES! Joe Cortez is the ref.
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oh BOY
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
I'm rooting for Winky
I just have so much respect for his skill set. And even if Williams loses, he’ll be back.
I feel the same.
Boxing writer: "Iran, what are you going to do when you retire?"
Iran Barkley: "Rob your house"
by Matt Miller on Apr 11, 2009 10:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Has Winky Wright ever been knocked down?
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Any notable ones?
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by SSreporters on Apr 11, 2009 10:55 PM EDT up reply actions
When is a KD not notable...
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If it's against a notable fighter I meant.
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by SSreporters on Apr 11, 2009 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions
yea
former jr middle champ julio cesar vasquez
by sonofapsycho on Apr 11, 2009 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions
all in same fight too i think
vasquez fight
by sonofapsycho on Apr 11, 2009 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions
He looks so lengthy out there.
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He pretty much has to when he's facing a solid guy like wright
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
Wright is so fucking smart in the ring.
Boxing writer: "Iran, what are you going to do when you retire?"
Iran Barkley: "Rob your house"
Wright can't use his jab
He’s adjusted somewhat, but it’s a very different style for Winky. Williams is staying far enough on the outside that using the jab would be fruitless.
Vogt early, Vogt often.
Close round, both guys landed good punches, but Wright hit Williams more flush
I give the round to Wright 10-9.
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Williams-Wright R1
PW starting fast, and shoots a left over the top on a crouched Winky. Williams throwing two jabs, then some power shots. He’s REALLY coming out quick to see what Winky has. He’s going hard at a distance. Winky, as usual, is just weathering the storm with this D. Hard right from Winky, very nice. And Williams comes back with one. Wright with a left. Well damn.
Winky’s largely picking off those jabs, but this is PW at a distance like almost never before. Paul makes Winky miss some at the end of the round. Pretty solid round, too.
Tough one to score. The aggression was Paul and it wasn’t ineffective, but Winky looks very good defensively and he may have landed the better shots. Like all big Winky fights, this one will be hard on the judges.
Wright 10-9
Winky has “RIP ARTIE C” on his trunks. Classy gesture.
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
Wright is hurt a little bit.
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10-9 Williams
Also like I thought, Radach/Smith is insane
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indeed
smith is never in a bad fight it seems.
i think winky is going to hit the canvas before the night is over.
by sonofapsycho on Apr 11, 2009 11:03 PM EDT up reply actions
That's definitely a Williams round. He caught him with many good punches, most notably an uppercut late in the round.
19-19 Even
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Williams-Wright R2
PW threw 104 punches in the first round. Winky threw 42.
PW with six shots, 5 1/2 of them blocked by Wright. Paul working again, and digs in a long right to the body. Williams really unloading and catching Winky a bit. Winky’s not firing back now. Under that fire he seems a smidge overwhelmed so far. Paul catches him clean as Winky tries to find a way to fight back.
This one is getting really interesting. I think Paul might be able to take him out with this kind of assault.
This round is clear: Paul is really dominating the action. Winky’s picking most of it off, but he’s getting hit and landing nothing back in return. BEAUTIFUL uppercut from Williams lands clean. Winky needs to get his jab going if he can. Jim says “round two looked a lot like round one.” I really disagree.
Williams 10-9
19-19
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Solid left cross by Winky.
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Williams-Wright R3
I’ll tell you, Paul has Winky looking a little more befuddled than I can remember seeing him. He’s in there and not getting hurt, but he’s just not able to keep up with Williams. Williams digging in to the side of the body, just under rights left elbow. He’s done that a few times. Winky comes back with some fire but then gets out of there.
Williams’ volume punching so far is crazy, and probably not sustainable. Winky with a left hand, good shot. Paul again picking at the body. Taking potshots on a tie-up now. Hey, with Winky Wright you take what punches you can land. Williams tries to shoot a long 1-2, but falls just short. Another PW round.
Williams 10-9
Williams 29-28
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Too close to call. Lampley keeps going on and on about the # of punches thrown and it's driving me insane.
Williams gets the round.
29-28 Williams
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Closer
Williams did a lot of good work in the first half of the round, but Winky landed the best punch and pretty much blocked everything in the second half. I’m giving that one to Winky.
29-28 Williams.
Vogt early, Vogt often.
Lampley has $500 on Winky. Shut up about the accuracy thing.
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Lederman: Southpaws have the power in the left hand.
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is this a question?
He scored PW-Quintana I for Paul on the basis of a non-existent jab. I just take him as drunk every fight now.
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That's certainly a Winky round.
38-38 Even.
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man I do love Winky fights
and this is why. I can’t argue with you. I won’t argue with you. Every Winky round is tough to score basically.
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Williams-Wright R4
First minute has Williams taking a bit of a breather. Now just after the first minute passes he starts firing away again. Winky might be baiting him into wearing himself out. Hey, maybe it works. It’s worked before.
Quick little right by Williams. Winky looks a tick slower than normal, and he’s never been a speed merchant. This is understandable, of course. He’s old and hasn’t fought in almost two years and he jumped right into the lion’s den against a hungry, younger guy. Close round again, though. But I’m going with Paul again.
Williams 10-9
Williams 39-37
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These guys are so pro-Williams it’s not even funny.
Boxing writer: "Iran, what are you going to do when you retire?"
Iran Barkley: "Rob your house"
Except Manny
Boxing writer: "Iran, what are you going to do when you retire?"
Iran Barkley: "Rob your house"
by Matt Miller on Apr 11, 2009 11:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Which fighter is easier to market?
These aren’t objective commentators like Howard Cosell said before most of us were born.
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by SSreporters on Apr 11, 2009 11:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Hard to get through Winky's block.
Just got to jab him silly.
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Winky is starting to look like the wiser man tonight.
Boxing writer: "Iran, what are you going to do when you retire?"
Iran Barkley: "Rob your house"
Definitely, Good strategy
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
Williams-Wright R5
Williams warned by Cortez for something, I think holding and hitting. He’s done it a lot. Wright’s corner pointed it out. They’re right. Good thing it took Dan Birmingham to alert Joe, though. Glad he’s out there.
Williams is making Wright miss fairly well, too. He’s getting hit “accurately” because he’s throwing so much that he’s there to be hit. He clearly has zero fear of Winky Wright’s “legit middleweight punch” and has learned already that Winky will not punch a lot. I mean everyone knows that. It’s what he does. It’s why he’s a big-time, famous boxer.
But PW has slowed down. Winky’s trying to wear him down, and he falls JUST short on a roundhouse left. This has been a solid round for Wink pretty much all-around. Not exactly vintage Winky, but close enough to it. Winky is never going to be an easy win — never.
Wright 10-9
Williams 48-47
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
This fight is too close to call. Williams though keeps throwing silly.
Wright’s round.
48-47 Wright.
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Both guys are slapping.
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Winky has lost his aggressiveness in this round and Williams wins this round. He's also landing his punches cleanly more than Winky.
57-57 Even.
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Williams-Wright R6
Winky going to the body, and catches Paul with a right hook. He’s looking like he’s found the secret of the ooze. Maybe. Paul’s looking like he’s lost a little bit of spark. Paul with a short left, but Winky landed a couple shots in the same exchange. The fight has slowed down, and that favors Winky Wright greatly. No more questions about how much Williams is throwing, because he’s still throwing plenty but not at the crazy pace he had earlier. You know clearly see Winky being a bit more accurate. Williams looks confident, and he’s fighting well, but I’ve got this thing even through half.
Wright 10-9
57-57
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What the hell fight is Merchant watching
“Wright is picking his spots more”
That was not only his most active round, but his least accurate round.
I thought that was a close one. 10-10
Vogt early, Vogt often.
BOOO
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Yeah yeah yeah
I don’t pick 10-10 rounds too often, but I really couldn’t pick a winner there. They both landed equally effective punches, I thought.
Vogt early, Vogt often.
no this is a fight where I won't really bust on it
They do happen. I had some in the Vazquez-Marquez series. I just threw my hands up and was like, I DON’T DAMN KNOW
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I feel like Lampley is speaking from a parallel universe of something. The only one who seems to actually be watching the fight is Manny.
Boxing writer: "Iran, what are you going to do when you retire?"
Iran Barkley: "Rob your house"
I've really tuned them out
They do this sometimes. And again Harold sees a jab from PW that just isn’t what he’s making it out to be.
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I have it even again.
Boxing writer: "Iran, what are you going to do when you retire?"
Iran Barkley: "Rob your house"
What fight are you watching Lederman?
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WTF is Lederman talking about?
Boxing writer: "Iran, what are you going to do when you retire?"
Iran Barkley: "Rob your house"
I really don't know
I mean, it’s not just me right? The jab isn’t landing “constantly,” right? PW doesn’t have the jab Harold pretends he does, right?
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It's good, not supergreat, but its not bad
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
it's fine
But Harold makes it out like it’s the greatest jab ever. It barely existed against Quintana and he scored the fight for Williams on the basis of it.
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I have it on mute so I didn't really have a point of reference on how they were making it out to be.
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
Right
Boxing writer: "Iran, what are you going to do when you retire?"
Iran Barkley: "Rob your house"
by Matt Miller on Apr 11, 2009 11:21 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm about to turn the sound off.
Boxing writer: "Iran, what are you going to do when you retire?"
Iran Barkley: "Rob your house"
Williams' work rate is stunning. I give him the round.
67-66 Williams.
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Williams-Wright R7
I really think this fight is turning Winky’s way. It’s nice that Williams is smiling, but that doesn’t mean he’s winning. It’s nice that he’s throwing a jab, that doesn’t mean he’s landing. It’s nice that he’s doing what he’s doing. Right hook near the end of the round for PW.
Look, I like Paul, but the HBO team is showing real bias. I think this is looking more and more like a Winky special. He’s doing his thing.
Wright 10-9
Wright 67-66
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Lampley has to be drunk.
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“That bauble, that belly button”
Boxing writer: "Iran, what are you going to do when you retire?"
Iran Barkley: "Rob your house"
That aliteration.
Boxing writer: "Iran, what are you going to do when you retire?"
Iran Barkley: "Rob your house"
by Matt Miller on Apr 11, 2009 11:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Lampley likes the ladies…
"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."
That's his punching bag. The ladies. His wife. That Bree Walker.
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by SSreporters on Apr 11, 2009 11:23 PM EDT up reply actions
I thought Williams won the last round, FWIW
Wright’s big shots look flashier, but Williams is landing plenty of big body shots.
Vogt early, Vogt often.
Agreed. I have Williams up by a round.
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by Matt Miller on Apr 11, 2009 11:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Good right hand by Williams!
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Williams is really bothering Winky
That’s the third or fourth time he’s done the head shake thing
Vogt early, Vogt often.
yup
when hes moving his had and staying busy hes busting him up good
by sonofapsycho on Apr 11, 2009 11:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Winky just can't get a good rhythm going
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
I wonder what was up with that long silence in the announcers’ booth there.
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Iran Barkley: "Rob your house"
I liked it.
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by SSreporters on Apr 11, 2009 11:25 PM EDT up reply actions
they do this
They’re either fixing their bowties, taking a leak in an Aquafina bottle, or have run out of things to say.
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Most lopsided round of the fight. Williams clearly running away with round 8.
Wright is basically taking the round off.
77-75 Williams
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Williams-Wright R8
Hard right by Paul, and that one made a difference. Winky is covering up quickly. Winky trying to work the body in the middle part of the round, but there’s nothing on those. Williams’ work rate has slowed down, but now he actually looks more effective. He’s breaking down Winky’s guard just a bit, and that is no easy task. Williams is on his ass now, to put it simply.
Now Lampley opens up the Tommy Hearns can of worms so that Steward can get all fuck defensive about how great Hearns is.
Wow: “Tommy didn’t have that type of stamina.” MANNY STEWARD ADMITTING FAULTS OF TOMMY HEARNS
It’s a new day, folks!
Wright looked like he took a round off. Bad idea.
Williams 10-9
76-76
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Or because Williams' work rate and onslaught of punches is too much for him to handle.
Even in his prime I’m not sure Winky could handle him.
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by SSreporters on Apr 11, 2009 11:27 PM EDT up reply actions
little of column A, little of column B, I think
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Williams is hurting Winky.
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I don't think so.
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by Matt Miller on Apr 11, 2009 11:28 PM EDT up reply actions
He's not seriously hurting him but he's nicking him up a bit.
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by SSreporters on Apr 11, 2009 11:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Winky is fighting well but I think he's tiring.
87-84 Williams
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agreed
williams is taking the rounds for sure. all the momentum is with him too.
by sonofapsycho on Apr 11, 2009 11:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Williams-Wright R9
I’ll tell you, now it’s Williams taken over. I’ve enjoyed this fight. Winky might be hurt about halfway in. Williams is firing on all cylinders and he has Winky TOTALLY on the defensive, and not the defensive that Wright has made his career on.
Good left from Paul catches Winky again. Wright coming back, and Williams warned for going low? I missed whatever the warning was. He did bow. The tide has turned in Williams’ favor for sure. This has been good back-and-forth stuff, the last two rounds have been all Paul though.
Williams 10-9
Williams 86-85
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thanks
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
Well that was a heck of a start by Williams. Did catch him a couple of times.
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Maybe I'm off here
But I think Abraham might be a tougher matchup for Williams than Pavlik.
Vogt early, Vogt often.
him and pavlik are clones of eachother.
by sonofapsycho on Apr 11, 2009 11:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Wright is completely out of gas and his punches have lost effectiveness
He must think Williams will punch himself out. He needs a knockout now.
97-93 Williams
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Williams-Wright R10
Williams JETS out of his corner, and now they are just throwing, mostly Paul throwing. Uppercut stings Wright, and a clean straight left lands. Winky just takes it all after trying to throw back at first. It’s like he’s slightly confused what he wants to do.
Harold has it 8-1, 89-82 for Williams. Harold is fucking blind. I’m sorry, but he’s just off. When NONE of us have it that wide, I’m comfortable saying that.
Williams picking away. What he’s doing at this point, and what he’s been doing all night really, is being totally willing to miss five times to land two. That’s what he’s doing. It’s kind of admirable, and he’s kept the pace for ten full rounds. The pace has gotten to a 37-year old Wright. It’s clear.
Another round for PW. You know what, though? If Winky is fighting this close — and it’s fairly close, really — after 20 months off against a top-tier guy, there’s no reason he should retire.
Williams 10-9
Williams 96-94
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oh crap i miscounted somewhere. 98-93
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
Williams is such a freak
He’s slowing down a hair, but he seriously looks like he could go 15 rounds easy.
Vogt early, Vogt often.
yep
He would’ve fit into the old world just fine I think.
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
The fact that his stamina looks no worse at 160 than it was at 147 really surprises me
Vogt early, Vogt often.
hes a freak for sure.
his power is a bit disappointing. he should be murdering people with his size.
by sonofapsycho on Apr 11, 2009 11:37 PM EDT up reply actions
This is another Williams round.
107-102 Williams
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Williams-Wright R11
Man, Paul with another good right hook. He’s starting to beat on him. This also says a lot about Winky, though. He’s 37 with the long layoff and he’s only looked so much as buzzed here and there, and in many rounds he’s been hit hard by a guy with an 82" reach.
Williams has totally neutralized Winky. Wright needs a KO, probably, and outside of a miracle it will not happen.
Williams 10-9
Williams 106-103
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Williams has this one in the bag now
Winky needs a KO. Even if you scored all the close rounds for Winky, Williams is still up at this point and Winky is out of gas.
Vogt early, Vogt often.
In retrospect, I feel pretty stupid about that pick. I mean, I knew how could Williams is. Sigh…
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“how good Williams is” I meant
Boxing writer: "Iran, what are you going to do when you retire?"
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by Matt Miller on Apr 11, 2009 11:38 PM EDT up reply actions
FUTURE
What does Wiliams do after this fight? Does he go back down to Junior Middleweight or does he stay at Midleweight? A fight between him and Kirkland would be nice.
wherever pays him the most between 147-160
He wants Mosley still.
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
Why are you covering up Winky? FIGHT!!!
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Well
With this win many people will say “He beat up a guy who hadn’t fought in 20 months and is washed up.”
Had he lost you know the outcome.
I don’t think it lands him huge fights but definitely some quality fights.
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by SSreporters on Apr 11, 2009 11:41 PM EDT up reply actions
see these strikeforce ko's?
the melendez one was pretty brutal. damm was all f’ed up.
by sonofapsycho on Apr 11, 2009 11:44 PM EDT up reply actions
It is not that close man.
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by SSreporters on Apr 11, 2009 11:43 PM EDT up reply actions
A little bit of a brawl at the end but it goes the distance
SSR’s Final Scorecard: 117-111 Williams, with Williams winning the final 6 rounds of the fight.
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she had the hopkins/joe fight right though
by sonofapsycho on Apr 11, 2009 11:44 PM EDT up reply actions
well I disagree greatly
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Ummm...no.
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by SSreporters on Apr 11, 2009 11:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Williams cruises to victory!
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Shit scoring
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I mean, they saw it with Lederman? I think Winky won 3 rounds.
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it was closer than that.
people get blinded by volume.
by boxingstudent on Apr 11, 2009 11:44 PM EDT up reply actions
We go by ratio
Winky had the same accuracy as Williams.
But the danger of not being a power puncher killed him. Williams is a better puncher and landed more effective shots. Look at Williams, he is swollen below the eyes. Williams looks like he could go all night. Wright was gassed at the end.
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by SSreporters on Apr 11, 2009 11:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Williams-Wright R12
And here we go. Good stuff tonight, but I think we have a clear winner.
WINKY IS COMING OUT TO THROW! Williams got a little sloppy there. I really wonder if Winky will just start winging. His corner is TELLING HIM he’s out of this and needs a KO. That’s not usual. When he loses fights he always thought he won or that it was really close. He’s being told it isn’t.
Good left from Winky. About 1:10 left now.
Paul with a big combo that stings Winky, but Winky pops him with a counter right. 10 seconds to go. Winky, bless him, is throwing. And now he backs into the corner. It’s over.
Williams 10-9
Williams 116-112
I have lag.
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
Maybe this was one of those fights that looks different live than on the screen?
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Iran Barkley: "Rob your house"
OFFICIAL SCORES
119-109
119-109
120-108
PAUL WILLIAMS VIA UNANIMOUS DECISION
Big win. Huge win. Basically shutting out Winky Wright? Huge. Huge, huge, huge. I thought it was slightly closer but clear for Paul. Winky seems to have no disagreements.
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
Larry: "Paul, how much longer could you do that?"
Paul: “You got five rounds in ya? I’ll go five wit’cha.”
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
Williams will fight Mosley soon. Shane has never backed down from anyone, ever, and he’s not getting the fight with PBF. So Mosley/Williams makes a lot of sense.
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Iran Barkley: "Rob your house"
I'd love it
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
would be a good one for Paul
I think Wink can still cause problems for lots of guys…would like to see him in some more fights.
-Brian
me too
Again, this is after 20 months off and against a world class guy. No tune-ups.
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yeah, props to Wright for taking the tough fight.
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by Matt Miller on Apr 11, 2009 11:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Wright legit has zero complaints
But he’s ready to keep going. Good for him. He held in there well, has perspective, and lost to a damn good young fighter.
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Um, really? Are you being sarcastic?
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by Matt Miller on Apr 11, 2009 11:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Winky looks as beat up as he's looked
On the bright side, it was the most entertaining Winky’s looked in a long long time.
Vogt early, Vogt often.
His workrate was probably actually low
But he threw more power punches than usual. Usually he throws 80 punches a round, but 70 of them are jabs.
Vogt early, Vogt often.
Good night everyone! When's the next fight night? BAD?
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Then Spinks-Latimore (4/24) and then Froch-Taylor (4/25)
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
Great coverage guys!
I felt there was an “agreement” towards the end… these guys liked each other.
"I want to see ocean. I want to see black people. I want to see palms." - Wladimir Klitschko
rest in peace, Arthur Curry
Great sendoff from Jim, Larry and Manny.
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
I liked the ten bell
Thank you Aquaman.
"I want to see ocean. I want to see black people. I want to see palms." - Wladimir Klitschko
Lampley and Larry choking up
made it awfully dusty in my living room.
I am Pro-Rickie, and Pro-Macha
by Dikembe Meiztombo on Apr 11, 2009 11:55 PM EDT reply actions
Woah, did Arloovski fight on the UC? Did he win?
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
didn't fight
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
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