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The ABCs of the Welterweight Division

Clottey543355_medium The alphabet soup has really outdone themselves this time.  Yesterday, Joshua Clottey vacated his IBF belt, meaning that there won't be any unification in the welterweight division once Clottey and Miguel Cotto meet up in Madison Square Garden on June 13.  Evidently, the IBF said that Clottey needed to fight his mandatory, or he would need to give up the belt.  Under normal circumstances, that might just be business as usual, and while it's annoying, it's not necessarily a travesty.  However, do you know who Joshua Clottey's mandatory is?  Delvin Rodriguez.  The same Delvin Rodriguez who became the mandatory less than a month ago, and who will be recovering from injuries from that fight for at least a couple more months. 

Since Rodriguez is the mandatory, it makes perfect sense that the title fight for the now-vacant belt will be between - get this - Isaac Hlatshwayo and Rafal Jackiewicz.  Yes, the IBF enforced a mandatory for Clottey against someone who was injured and unable to fight, and then decided to pass over the mandatory because he was injured, which is one of the most  hypocritical, ass-backwards things I've seen a sanctioning body do.  Sure, the WBO ranked a dead guy, but at least that was an honest (but stupid) mistake.  Here, they're actually acknowledging that they put Clottey in an impossible situation by putting themselves in that same impossible situation, and then making up their own new rules as they go along to fix it.

This also sets a horrible precedent generally.  Rodriguez and Hlatshwayo met in South Africa in November.  The result was a draw, although most contemporaneous reports say that Rodriguez pretty clearly won the fight.  So the IBF mandated a rematch to determine the mandatory.  Hlatshwayo then pulled out of the rematch, leaving Rodriguez to fight Shamone Alvarez in the eliminator.  Rodriguez wins, and he's rewarded by getting passed over completely, while Hlatshwayo is rewarded for pulling out of a fight late by getting a title shot. 

This isn't the only belt with a completely ridiculous situation in the welterweight division.  This past weekend, Vyacheslav Senchenko won the "WBA title" by beating Yuriy Nuzhnenko in a fight that nobody outside of the Ukraine so much as noticed.  Now you're probably thinking, Shane Mosley has the WBA title, and before that it was Antonio Margarito, and before that it was Miguel Cotto.  How does some random Eastern European who's never fought a top 20 contender end up with the belt?  Well, despite the fact that Miguel Cotto was active and fighting, the WBA decided to give out an interim belt.  Then, despite the fact that it wasn't a unification match, the WBA decided to elevate the Margarito-Cotto winner to "super" status, making the interim beltholder a regular beltholder.  And why wasn't it a unification match?  Because Margarito wouldn't defend the belt against his mandatory, Josh Clottey.  You can't make this stuff up.

I realize I may be in the minority here, but I do think that the ABCs serve a few legitimate purposes, and while there are too many of them, boxing actually needs them.  Without them, you'd never have dangerous but unknown fighters like Clottey (or Rodriguez or Jackiewicz for that matter) getting their shot.  But what boxing needs the most is for them to act consistently and not corruptly.  Between this, the nonsense making Oleg Maskaev the phantom mandatory for Vitali Klitschko, the WBC forcing Timothy Bradley to choose which belt he wants to keep, and a million other inconsistencies, I'm really starting to think that they are all more trouble than it's worth.

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by theworldsoldestsport on Apr 17, 2009 10:33 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Since Rodriguez is the mandatory, it makes perfect sense that the title fight for the now-vacant belt will be between – get this – Isaac Hlatshwayo and Rafal Jackiewicz. Yes, the IBF enforced a mandatory for Clottey against someone who was injured and unable to fight, and then decided to pass over the mandatory because he was injured, which is one of the most hypocritical, ass-backwards things I’ve seen a sanctioning body do.

This almost reminds me of a documentary show on cable a while back that was called “Most Evil” or something like that, where some quack descibed a point system he uses to give serial killers “evil ratings.” Like, Ted Bundy is four points eviler than Ed Geene, but two points less evil than Dahmer… etc. It’s almost impossible to tell which organization is the most corrupt anymore, but the IBF makes a good case. Does anyone remember when Oscar dropped his IBF belt rather than face the IBF’s mystery mandatory of the month, Miguel Julio? I was glad Oscar did that, because he said in no uncertain terms that the fight was a farce and basically called the IBF a bunch of rotten crooks, which they were.

"I want to see ocean. I want to see black people. I want to see palms." - Wladimir Klitschko

by jrok on Apr 17, 2009 10:34 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

that was a good show

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by SC on Apr 17, 2009 10:36 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I wasn’t really slamming the show. Hell, I watched the whole thing. I think Dahmer “won” if I remember right.

"I want to see ocean. I want to see black people. I want to see palms." - Wladimir Klitschko

by jrok on Apr 17, 2009 10:38 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

did he?

Fuck. I was hoping for someone more evil.

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by SC on Apr 17, 2009 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah. I remember thinking that was bull. Bundy would have gotten my vote. He was pulling some serious Lex Luthor shit back in the 70’s. Like they would keep catching him, and he would keep escaping to go wreak more havoc. It wasn’t even like he’d escape and try to disappear. He just had more killing to do, like he was on some sort of Evil Schedule.

"I want to see ocean. I want to see black people. I want to see palms." - Wladimir Klitschko

by jrok on Apr 17, 2009 10:59 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Or Suliaman heh

Vogt early, Vogt often.

by Brickhaus on Apr 17, 2009 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Stalin knew the deal...

“If you kill one man, its a tragedy. If you kill a million, its a statistic.”

"I want to see ocean. I want to see black people. I want to see palms." - Wladimir Klitschko

by jrok on Apr 17, 2009 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Good Stuff

I was looking forward to a unification, but what can you do with the stupidity of the IBF.

I read this news yesterday and rushed over to their website just to look at their “top of the line rankings,” and get this Joshua Clottey was no longer shown as their champion. Boy, they did not waste any time did they.

"Count on us! We sponsored Margarito for several years." - CEMEX [Mexico's largest cement company.]

by Sickle on Apr 17, 2009 10:42 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Boxing needs a hero right now to sort this out.

Has De La Hoya got enough to buy the main 4 belts?

What we need is one all powerful body, abiding by a solid set of rules – I don’t care if there’s 3 or 4 belts, (I love unifications), but there needs to be one solid worldwide governing body – it’s the reason UFC is doing so well – they’re in control – the big fights are made, the undercards solid.

Come on Oscar – save us!

by bazzlad on Apr 17, 2009 11:21 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

keein track of who holds titles is next to impossible lately … everyones being stripped, interim titlist, super champs ordinary champs … i give up … ring or nothin imo

by 3zilla on Apr 17, 2009 12:24 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Why dont they just seed the contenders and make that public? Then when Delvin goes down, the number 2 guy takes his place and delvin drops down one for him to recover… or to third if they need to do a vacant title fight. Then hes the top contender for that fights winner. Nothing in this situation would have changed except who Clottey backed out of fighting and who got screwed.

by ryanwk628 on Apr 17, 2009 1:50 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

That idea is just unworkable. How would the IBF auction off rankings then? The bribe system would be way too complicated.

"I want to see ocean. I want to see black people. I want to see palms." - Wladimir Klitschko

by jrok on Apr 17, 2009 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, this idea (which is a good one, obviously) works on the basis that the rankings are in any way legit to begin with.

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by SC on Apr 17, 2009 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Excellent article Brick.

These ABCs harm the sport more than help it…

"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."

by Zocalo on Apr 17, 2009 3:24 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

agreed on both counts

all seems a bit bewildering…

by BrianBrock on Apr 17, 2009 4:10 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Its good to see everyone is as confused as me. Its good the belts are around but they need to simplify it so the is a champion and contenders. If they make it easy to follow more people will want to follow

by sigidy on Apr 17, 2009 8:51 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I disagree on the last statement

I think boxing has too many belts and too many divisions. I would like to see one champ and only have HW, CW, LHW, MW, WW, LW, FW, BW, FW, and MW. There were many more licensed fighters in the 50s(and other decades but this was the highest I believe) and far fewer belts. Boxing in that era was far more successful, I think with one champ in fewer divisions you eliminate crap like this that confuses your average sports fan, and even confuses your die hard sweet science fan, to the point where the average fan doesn’t follow boxing.

I’d also like 15 rounds back, but I’d settle for 13.

by MatM on Apr 19, 2009 2:06 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Actually now that I re-read your statement I don’t know how much I disagree with you lol.

by MatM on Apr 19, 2009 2:09 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

One Champ per division. Pipe Dream in 2009.

The ABC organisations are the boil on boxings arse.
Year on year they consistently get worse and we scratch our heads saying “oh here they go again”. Until someone who cant be corrupted and has a lot of cash to burn to organise a FIFA type organisation we are screwed and in this till it ends.
Support the Ring Champs and put the others where you like.

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by dinkman on Apr 19, 2009 5:51 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

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