Froch and Taylor already talking rematch
Carl Froch and Jermain Taylor put on a hell of a show in Connecticut last night on Showtime, and both sound willing to do a rematch.
Afterward, Froch called out retired former super middleweight and light heavyweight champion Joe Calzaghe — even though the Pride of Wales has expressed no interest in returning to the ring. Froch also offered to give Taylor a rematch.
"Does Jermain Taylor deserve a rematch?" Froch said. "Absolutely he does."
"Yeah," Taylor added, "I'd like a rematch."
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"My hat's off to Carl Froch," Taylor said. "He came over here and stuck it out for 12 rounds."
It wouldn't at all surprise me to see them do it again, and Froch seems totally willing to keep on fighting in America, not content to stay in his backyard. It wouldn't surprise me, though, if he'd want to do a Taylor rematch in Nottingham, and he earned that right. Jermain should have to go to Froch if that's the way Carl wants it -- no question.
I'd fully support a rematch, though it would also be interesting to see Froch take on Sakio Bika, a powerful and still-hungry fighter that's itching for a title shot. But Froch-Taylor II is worthy, unlike some rematches (hello, Dawson-Tarver II). Taylor won most of that fight and Froch outgutted and outpunched him at the end of it. He earned his win, and Taylor fought well enough that he deserves another crack at the title, I think.
We'll see how it all shakes out, but this was one to remember.
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4 am ramble
put Froch in there with Pavlik.
When’s the last time two white guys fought for the true MW title? Abraham, Pavlik, Froch, wtf? I’m not saying there great, ‘cuz IMO none of them are great, but I still can’t remember three white guys at the top of the MW ladder. Mind you, my boxing viewing experience doesn’t predate B-Hop’s reign at the top of the MW ladder. Or at least the fight between RJJ and B-Hop
How in hell did Jermain Taylor beat B-Hop? I had B-Hop winning the first fight, but still. How did Jermain Taylor put himself in position to get a decision over B-Hop. How did B-Hop fail to knock out Jermain Taylor? B-Hop’s worst loss is Jermain Taylor…by far.
That’s not a knock on Froch, the guy’s tough as shit, determined, slick in spots, hits with clubbing power.
by lcollins1 on Apr 26, 2009 4:53 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I doubt Froch could make 160
Vogt early, Vogt often.
by Brickhaus on Apr 26, 2009 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bring on the rematch
Froch vs any top-10 SMW will do, he makes exciting fights with anyone, but my top pick would probably be a rematch over here in england. Both guys have a fair amount to learn from last night’s fight, and I think the winner would be the one who improved (or covered) their weaknesses the most. Despite his corner’s protestations, Froch continued the habit of dangling his lead hand low, and it left him open for as long as taylor was able to throw, and taylor’s stamina effectively lost him the fight.
In as tight a finish as this, with taylor just seconds from victory, i think a rematch is totally justifiable too. I just hope that he doesn’t have a problem coming to england for it.
by thirdslip on Apr 26, 2009 6:51 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I didn’t watch the fight last night but I did DVR it. I got through the first five rounds before the NFL Draft (Day 2) came on this morning but I’ll leave my scorecard for the fight here just so I don’t forget it.
I have Taylor ahead (49-45) after five rounds. I gave Froch the second.
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by FlyByKnight on Apr 26, 2009 10:47 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
whoa hey i like that new photo caption thingy..
how long have you guys done that?
by Anton Tabuena on Apr 26, 2009 10:50 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
SBN has had rights to Associated Press pictures for a while now
But while that covers the major sports well, the AP usually doesn’t have anyone at boxing matches, so it’s very rare that we get to use that functionality. The web part they have for putting the AP pictures in there allows captions underneath, which is nice, but unfortunately, it doesn’t show you the XML on how to do it that way, so I don’t know how to do it with the other 99.9% of pictures that we use that don’t have associated press coverage.
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by Brickhaus on Apr 26, 2009 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If you use “insert image” feature for anything you find on the web, you can just make your own caption.
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by SC on Apr 26, 2009 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
so that cation function in the insert image is just for staff members?
cause all i see is a place where to put a link, and an import button..
..i wonder why BE doesn’t do those stuff.
by Anton Tabuena on Apr 26, 2009 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The way Froch keeps his hands down it is only a matter of time. Taylor dropped him with a right and I think Pavlik would finish him in that round.
"Stop smiling you are about to be punched in the face !"
by Warhand on Apr 26, 2009 12:09 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Pavlik hasn’t looked like he carries his power well north of 160. Since Froch is unlikely to go below 168, I don’t favor Kelly in that fight unless he a) puts the weight on better (i.e. carefully and over a period of several months) and/or b) jumps to a serious trainer.
by Nick_ on Apr 26, 2009 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
that was against hopkins. froch ain’t no hopkins
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by battle axe of doom on Apr 26, 2009 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I didn’t think he looked great against Jermain at 164 in their rematch either. He has great power at 160, but above that, we haven’t seen it.
by Nick_ on Apr 26, 2009 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
completely forgot taylor II was at a higher weight class. sorry. he did stagger taylor late in the fight though if i remember correctly.
just saw this froch fight. great stuff, and amazingly hot broad in the blue dress
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by battle axe of doom on Apr 26, 2009 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Taylor didn’t want to fight in the second one, he wanted to survive. And, Pavlik hurt him bad in the 11th round with a left-hook to the body, pretty much ended Taylor’s night
by lcollins1 on Apr 26, 2009 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
JT fought a safety-first rematch, for sure, but I think at 160 Pavlik would’ve KO’d him a second time. He doesn’t have as much pop higher than that— which is not to say he doesn’t have any.
by Nick_ on Apr 26, 2009 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Taylor knows how to keep his hands up.
"Stop smiling you are about to be punched in the face !"
by Warhand on Apr 27, 2009 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
for five or six rounds, yes
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
by SC on Apr 27, 2009 6:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
no rematch yet
id like to see froch vs. bute with taylor vs andrade undercard.
andrade vs green would be damn good too. probably more interesting that taylor vs. andrade.
by sonofapsycho on Apr 26, 2009 1:33 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Bute’s gonna take Green as his optional and then he has the mandatory rematch with Andrade. All of which I’m fine with. Green-Andrade could be a hell of a scrap.
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
by SC on Apr 26, 2009 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would rather see him fight some of the other contenders/titlists
I read an article the other day that say something like 70-85% of rematches end with the same result. I tried to look it up but my Google skills are lacking. I didn’t see anything special from Froch he looked slow, horrible defensively and really didn’t even look to powerful until the final round, and how much of that was from Taylor’s stamina problems. I do not think he will be around long if he fights top guys. If Taylor had stamina he could have easily out boxed him but once again he faded.
Personally I think Kessler, Bute, Green, Ward, Dirrel, and Andrade all beat him pretty easily. If Calzaghe returned he would slap the crap out of him for 12 rounds with no problem and if I was Joe I would do it bc its a easy big money fight in England.
by TXroyal on Apr 26, 2009 3:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Oh Joe would smoke Froch. Horrible, horrible matchup for Froch. I admire his guts wanting to try it and I get the impression he actually thinks he’d win, but Calzaghe might shut him out over 12 rounds. I don’t think Froch-Andrade would be a FotY contender probably. Kessler and Bute both beat him. Green is sketchy and the other two haven’t been tested enough for me to guess confidently on their behalf.
But I quite like Froch despite his flaws. Tough dude.
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
by SC on Apr 26, 2009 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was going with Ward and Dirrel reflex'speed advantage
I just think they could both out box him for 12 rounds. We will know if Ward would be able in to a couple of weeks. Miranda should prove a lot about his potential. I also like Froch a lot I was just stating that if he wants the best he may be in for a rude awakening. I would really like to see him and Andrade, you are right a potential FotY candidate.
by TXroyal on Apr 26, 2009 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
that was an espn article was it not? great stuff iirc
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by battle axe of doom on Apr 26, 2009 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I honestly can not remember.
I can not find it anywhere though. I recommend it though if anyone can find it.
by TXroyal on Apr 26, 2009 6:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Found it
and I was off on my memory. The winner wins the rematch 86% of the time keep that in mind if you are a person that puts money on fights. I don’t really know how to post links so here is my first attempt
http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/boxing/news/story?id=3957320
by TXroyal on Apr 26, 2009 6:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
I would love to see a rematch. They fought beautifully. Much much props to Froch. I salute him for fighting at such a state, unlike Calzaghe, and fighting a great match with a top contender.
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by Sickle on Apr 26, 2009 3:26 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Agree
I would love to see a rematch. I do not think he will be around long if he fights top guys. http://www.ipodconverter.com If Taylor had stamina he could have easily out boxed him but once again he faded.
by Robert CJ on May 23, 2009 12:21 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

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