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Only so many avenues open for Dawson

One of the fights many diehard fans would love to see is a rematch between Chad Dawson and Glen Johnson. (via www.boxnews.com.ua)

One of the fights many diehard fans would love to see is a rematch between Chad Dawson and Glen Johnson. (via www.boxnews.com.ua)

With last night's wide, perfectly fine, but hardly star-making rematch win over Antonio Tarver, IBF/IBO light heavyweight titlist Chad Dawson must now face a harsh reality: There's just not much for him to do.

Most regard Dawson as the second-best light heavyweight in the sport today, behind only 44-year old living legend Bernard Hopkins. But in a division that is dominated mostly by older fighters who mean little at the box office, how does he become a bigger star?

There's no question he won't be able to get Joe Calzaghe out of retirement, which would be one of the two big fights he could make for himself, and even still Calzaghe has just never made a star out of himself in America. His two prime time fights on HBO -- against Mikkel Kessler and Bernard Hopkins -- tanked in the ratings, and his HBO pay-per-view "clash" with the faded Roy Jones last November was an even bigger flop. Respect his accomplishments though anyone may, I don't think anyone can argue against one fact: American audiences got a good taste of Calzaghe, and they sent the dish back.

Dawson is 26 years old. He has talked in recent weeks of moving down to super middleweight. Moving down is a lot harder than moving up, even for someone at optimum athletic age like "Bad" Chad. But there's a much larger scope down there for him, though no superfights.

The truth is, if Dawson can't land Hopkins and Gary Shaw can't make a miracle and convince Joe Calzaghe to end his short retirement, there's only one name at 175 pounds that really matters right now, and that's Glen Johnson, the unappreciated top fiver at the weight who's been there for years and never gone away.

Johnson and Dawson met in 2008, of course, with Dawson winning a debated unanimous decision. I've never held any great opinion on the judges' scorecards, because I had it a 114-114 draw, and I rarely score draws. The fight reminded me somewhat of Jermain Taylor-Winky Wright, with the younger Dawson winning in spurts, and the cagey Johnson taking him to school at other points.

Dawson-Johnson is an attractive rematch for fans, but Dawson has made no bones about it: He will not fight Johnson unless he absolutely has to. He has said that very plainly. There could be legitimate reasons here, like the fact that Glen is dangerous and is another guy whose name still means little (which is a damned shame, too), but I think it's plain old fear. Dawson wants no part of Johnson because Johnson never stopped coming in that fight. The old man wore the young buck out, and Dawson doesn't want to test that again.

I'm not saying this to call Dawson a coward, either. Boxing greats (not that Dawson is great yet) have avoided guys forever, and they'll continue to do so. It just is the way it is. Still, as I said before, you'd like to think that Dawson would want to settle the unfinished business. He just doesn't.

So with Calzaghe a totally unrealistic idea, B-Hop being B-Hop, and his unwillingness to fight Johnson again, who does that leave at 175 pounds?

Notes: I'm not counting Zsolt Erdei, because he doesn't have the stones to fight anywhere but Germany or Hungary, and I'm not counting Hugo Garay because I don't think HBO or anyone in America would be too psyched to sign off on that one.

Roy Jones Jr.: Please, for the love of God, no. Southpaw Dawson has enough speed and enough pop to cream Roy. Joe Calzaghe beat Jones up, and sure he punched "harder than normal" it appeared, but Calzaghe does not have Dawson's load 'em up power, and Jones doesn't have the reflexes to avoid that stuff anymore. There's one way this fight ends: Jones knocked out. It's not interesting, it's not a contest, it's just Dawson picking what's left of Jones' bones.

Tavoris Cloud: Sadly, nobody knows who the hell Cloud is. The IBF mandatory has been calling Dawson out lately, hoping to land a fight. It won't happen, because again, no one past the diehards know who Cloud (19-0, 18 KO) is. Personally I think it's a hell of a fight. You're telling me this thing couldn't head up a Boxing After Dark? They matched Jorge Arce and Julio Ler in the main event of B.A.D. not so long ago. Dawson-Cloud will cut the mustard.

Andre Ward or Edison Miranda: Whoever wins next Saturday on Showtime could well be in line for a title shot. Miranda (32-3, 28 KO) is always going to be an attractive TV opponent because there's always that chance he lands the bomb. Ward (18-0, 12 KO) is attractive because he's an ex-Olympian with good skills and that pretty unbeaten record. Neither one makes for a huge fight, but again: Boxing After Dark would be a great home for Dawson-Ward or Dawson-Miranda.

Shaun George: The one and only time most have seen George is when the Brooklynite battered Chris Byrd for nine rounds on ESPN2 last summer. He's fought just once since then, destroying Jaffa Ballogou in February, which took less than 90 seconds. Truthfully, George may be as hot as he's ever going to get, and his promoters might want to get him a shot at Dawson if that's at all possible. His two losses came at cruiserweight, and fighting in the light heavyweight neighborhood he's 9-0.

The Super Middleweight Idea: Dawson, really, would run into the same problems at 168. What does fighting, say, Jermain Taylor really do for Dawson? Is beating Taylor any different than beating the Ward-Miranda winner at this point? Dawson would be heavily favored against Taylor, and rightly so. The rest of the possibles at 168 -- IBF titlist Lucian Bute, the in-limbo Kessler, Green, Balzsay, even the hot Carl Froch -- aren't going to offer a ton more in terms of money. Why risk draining that weight, honestly, unless you're doing it high-reward?

I really do like Chad Dawson, think he's a good young fighter, but I get the feeling that HBO picked the wrong time to try to make him a star. He deserves it, but it's going to be a huge uphill battle because of one thing: The Fighter is there. The Fight, though, most likely is not.

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I think his best option

Is to start asking for catchweight fights with everybody at 171 or 172

Gimme 1 round!

by ItBurnzWhenIP on May 10, 2009 6:12 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Or to bite the bullet

and risk getting KO’d by Adamek

Gimme 1 round!

by ItBurnzWhenIP on May 10, 2009 6:13 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not to dominate the thread

But this would probably be his best option. If he beats Adamek then he perhaps CAN draw Joe C out of retirement or bait Hopkins into a superfight. Because winning money and cruiserweight title is about all that really matters to either of those guys at this point.

Gimme 1 round!

by ItBurnzWhenIP on May 10, 2009 6:15 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Joe Calzaghe aint coming out of retirement. No way.
Im happy that Dawson as now probably got rid of Tarver. I will be over the moon.

Adamek and Hopkins are too much of a risk before Chad earns some crust. I would like to see a re-match with Johnson or give Cloud a chance. Travoris looks to hurt you and it will tell us a little more about what Chad is made out of off: not that i dont think he is a good fighter. He is.

"One Shall Stand. One shall Fall" - Optimus Prime

by dinkman on May 10, 2009 6:29 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Glen Johnson

Saying there’s nobody to fight – if there are legit reasons is fine. But the reason for not taking on Johnson being that he’d just rather not do it, is kind of crap. With little other options, there’s no excuse not to fight Johnson. It’s the fight that makes the most sense and the opponent is more than willing.

As far as the future goes, a lot can change in a year. The winner of Pascal/Diaconu would be a worthy opponent, and a couple fighters at 168 might move up.

But in the meantime, Glen is sitting around waiting.

by A.F. on May 10, 2009 8:31 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Just to add on to my post. As mentioned in the story, Tavoris Cloud might make for a great fight. Sure he doesn’t have a name yet, but a couple years ago, neither did Dawson. Give Cloud another 12 months and that could be one of the more appealing match-ups to be made.

by A.F. on May 10, 2009 8:34 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Cloud needs to fight more… he needs to fight someone like Ward or Miranda and create a buzz around him like Pavlik did when he beat Miranda before the Taylor fight.

"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."

by Zocalo on May 10, 2009 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dawson/Adamek-

What a great idea!! I’d love to see that fight made.

Boxing is the beginning of all sports. I'm willing to bet that the first sport was a man against another man in a fight. (Omar Epps)

by Chaos100 on May 10, 2009 8:43 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Hmm

Feel like I’ve seen it before. Oh wait….I did, and Dawson pretty much dominated Adamek, other than a flash knockdown late in the fight.

Vogt early, Vogt often.

by Brickhaus on May 10, 2009 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yep. Totally agree

and that is why I’d like to see the fight.

Even at a catchweight, maybe 190 or so. I think Adamek wins at anything over 180/185.

It’s a more interesting fight than Cloud (although I do agree that Cloud deserves a shot, too) and since Chad won’t fight Johnson, and Hopkins won’t fight Chad, it’s the best idea for a fight out there right now for Dawson, IMO.

Boxing is the beginning of all sports. I'm willing to bet that the first sport was a man against another man in a fight. (Omar Epps)

by Chaos100 on May 10, 2009 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, its one thing to rematch Tarver because you’re contractually obliged. But to rematch Adamek at whatever weight out of choice when Johnson is standing right in front of you would just lose Dawson some fans I think.

"This fight'll be the nastiest thing you'll ever see. I been sober for six weeks, and that makes me vicious."
-- Randall 'Tex' Cobb

by jrok on May 10, 2009 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I hope the networks force him to rematch Johnson

Or even to fight Diaconu or Cloud, both of whom he’s avoided fighting at one time or another.

Vogt early, Vogt often.

by Brickhaus on May 10, 2009 12:37 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I’m praying that a star is made next Saturday (Andre Ward). Given the lack of depth at the division, I don’t see why promoters would not want to line up a big fight for Ward right away. Assuming he wins of course.

by steak_knife on May 10, 2009 1:42 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

It is sad really to see the ring rankings for LHW.

Light Heavyweight
Limit: 175 pounds

    *
      CHAMPION: Vacant
    *
      1. Bernard Hopkins
      Country: USA (Philadelphia, Pa.)
      Record: 49-5-1 (32 KOs)
      Ranking: This Week: #1 | Last Week: #1 | Weeks On List: 152
    *
      2. Chad Dawson
      Country: USA (New Haven, Conn.)
      Record: 27-0-0 (17 KOs)
      Ranking: This Week: #2 | Last Week: #2 | Weeks On List: 153
      Titles: IBF
    *
      3. Glen Johnson
      Country: Jamaica
      Record: 49-12-2 (33 KOs)
      Ranking: This Week: #3 | Last Week: #3 | Weeks On List: 308
    *
      4. Antonio Tarver
      Country: USA (Orlando, Fla.)
      Record: 27-5-0 (19 KOs)
      Ranking: This Week: #4 | Last Week: #4 | Weeks On List: 555
    *
      5. Zsolt Erdei
      Country: Hungary
      Record: 30-0-0 (17 KOs)
      Ranking: This Week: #5 | Last Week: #5 | Weeks On List: 272
      Titles: WBO
    *
      6. Roy Jones Jr.
      Country: USA (Pensacola, Fla.)
      Record: 53-5-0 (39 KOs)
      Ranking: This Week: #6 | Last Week: #6 | Weeks On List: 68
    *
      7. Clinton Woods
      Country: England
      Record: 41-4-1 (24 KOs)
      Ranking: This Week: #7 | Last Week: #7 | Weeks On List: 298
    *
      8. Adrian Diaconu
      Country: Romania
      Record: 25-0-0 (15 KOs)
      Ranking: This Week: #8 | Last Week: #8 | Weeks On List: 104
      Titles: WBC
    *
      9. Hugo Garay
      Country: Argentina
      Record: 32-3-0 (17 KOs)
      Ranking: This Week: #9 | Last Week: #9 | Weeks On List: 44
      Titles: WBA
    *
      10. Yusaf Mack
      Record: 27-2-2 (16 KOs)
      Ranking: This Week: #10 | Last Week: #10 | Weeks On List: 13

"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."

by Zocalo on May 10, 2009 4:01 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Id like to see him fight

Zsolt Erdei and get another belt. Calling out Calzaghe is a mistake because he has the speed to catch Chad. Its a shame, but by the time he has enough start power to justify the Hopkins fight, he will be out of the picture.

The best thing for Chad would be to get second billing on the next Pac Man or Floyd mega fight so millions of buyers would get a good look at him. I love Chad (CT baby!) but people have to see him fight before they know who he is.

by ryanwk628 on May 11, 2009 8:30 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’d like to see him fight Cal. Cal would ‘catch’ Chad, but he wouldn’t hurt him at all. Chad’s fast enough to hit Cal a lot.

by lcollins1 on May 11, 2009 5:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Cloud is a force to be reckoned with, smacking around and finishing Gonzalez like he did is quite the accomplishment. I’d be interested in Chad fighting the winner of Pascal/Diaconu, but I highly doubt that’s gonna happen.

by MatM on May 10, 2009 10:09 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

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