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Rogan vs. Sexton, Round 8

Here's Round 8 of Sam Sexton vs. Martin Rogan.  As you can see, this will go down as a VERY controversial ending.  It almost reminds me of Vitali Klitschko vs. Lennox Lewis, where Vitali was winning the fight and had momentum, yet the ref stopped the fight on cuts.  Yes, stopping the fight with Rogan's eye completely shut was the right call, but it also would have been the right call to stop the fight either of the two times Sexton turns his back to Rogan, or the time Sexton is standing there completely defenseless and Rogan just doesn't throw because he's expecting the ref to stop the fight.  It also seemed very odd to stop the fight right at that moment, when Rogan had all of the momentum.  But at the end of the day, he really couldn't see out of that eye.

You be the judge - robbery or good call?

 

 

 

Poll
Was this a robbery?
Absolutely - The ref should have stopped the fight in favor of Rogan earlier
71 votes
Yes - He should have let the round end considering the flow of the fight
26 votes
Really could go either way
11 votes
No, but the timing could have been better
18 votes
No - Rogan was in danger because he could no longer see out of one side
4 votes

130 votes | Poll has closed

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I went with “considering the flow of the fight.” I’m the first guy in line to protect fighters — but at the end of the day, his eye will heal, and he’s there to fight. Both men did their job, and even though I can’t outright blame Parriss or the doctor, it feels cheap to me.

by Scott Christ on May 16, 2009 5:33 AM EDT reply actions  

Same Here

Great show.
I had Sexton a round ahead Rocky Rogan was badly hurt in the 7th and had been visited by the doc on that eye already. As you can see Sexton was swimming in a world of shit and nod ya cap at him for staying vertical.
Badly hurt something in Sams brain told him to point at the canvas/gumshield. Its a hustle! Rogan amazingly stops , Jim Watt loses his mind and Sexton slaps out a three punch jab combo… Brilliant.

The Stoppage: Wow. Dont know what i make of it? No one would of blamed Parris if he stopped Sexton , or concern for Rogans eye-but at that point of the fight? Something was not quite right ,Rogan could not see the docs fingers..and thats a good time to stop, but again at that point?

I feel sorry for the big Irishman but i was rooting for Sexton also. Rogan does remind me of Marciano with that style and ill love him forever for showing up that clownshoe Audley Harrison. He will be back soon he has a point to prove. Lets see it again.
 

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by dinkman on May 16, 2009 7:49 AM EDT reply actions  

Here's the thing

There was a legitimate case for the fight to have been stopped (for the swelling) in the previous round, but it was allowed to continue. From that point onwards, it was one way traffic, sexton barely landed a punch, it could have been stopped several times, and then out of the blue the doctor is called for again.

It’s not necessarily that the stoppage was wrong, but the timing was awful, and there was only one person in serious danger of injury if that fight was allowed to continue, and it sure as hell wasn’t martin rogan.

by thirdslip on May 16, 2009 10:40 AM EDT reply actions  

Can't say it better myself.

If you were thinking, you wouldn't have thought that.

by Warden11 on May 17, 2009 12:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

Rogan should have kept punching when Sexton was just standing there

Rogan was on borrowed time the minute he was allowed to continue into the round. He knew that. If only he had kept punching when Sexton was just standing there in the corner with his hands down. Instead of punching, Rogan put his hands down, arguably signaling that he also was close to spent.

From that moment on, it looked like Sexton had recovered somewhat, and given a look at the eye, the doctor had no choice but to stop it.

BTW, I voted the “either way” option.

by bailorg on May 16, 2009 11:03 AM EDT reply actions  

I watched this live. When a fighter is backing up,hands down and nodding to the ref………….to anyone with a brain it would look like he wanted out.Rogan got screwed the fight was over and the ref saved sexton

by RealIrish on May 16, 2009 11:04 AM EDT reply actions  

The timing was unfortunate, but I’ve seen a lot more controversial stoppages than that before. This one certainly doesn’t make my blood boil or anything.

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by Matt Miller on May 16, 2009 1:09 PM EDT reply actions  

That eye was just if not almost as bad as Ferocious.

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by Sickle on May 16, 2009 2:36 PM EDT reply actions  

that still makes me queasy.

If you were thinking, you wouldn't have thought that.

by Warden11 on May 17, 2009 12:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

Who is that anyway? I can't tell....

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by Chaos100 on May 17, 2009 9:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

i;ve seen worse but rogan was still robbed imo …. ref shoulda stopped it when sexton looked all but out or just allowed it to go on until the end of round and then got the doctor to take a good look …

by 3zilla on May 16, 2009 4:55 PM EDT reply actions  

Looks to me like reffy boy had some cash on that fight and saw his investment dissappearing

There is no way in hell you stop that then of all times. I had 2 standing 8s for each time the other guy was rocked and ended up on queer street facing the other way and he warned Rogan for hitting behind the head? That ending goes beyond stupid into investigation territory for me.

Gimme 1 round!

by ItBurnzWhenIP on May 16, 2009 8:23 PM EDT reply actions  

Totally agree.

If one guy turns his back and drops his hands, what the F is the ref doing having a prolonged chat with Rogan about punching him?

He should have been counting 8 for Sexton.

Unbelievable as far as I’m concerned. Sexton could have been reasonably stopped at any one of 3 points in that round, and as a previous poster has said, there was only one man who was going to get hurt if the fight carried on, and it “sure as hell wasn’t Martin Rogan”….

Dave Parris should hang his head in shame. Appalling display. The bit at 2:26 of this clip really pisses me off. What the hell is Parris doing giving a man, who has essentially given up, those extra seconds to recover so he can have a cosy chat with Rogan? Fucking joke.

Boxing is the beginning of all sports. I'm willing to bet that the first sport was a man against another man in a fight. (Omar Epps)

by Chaos100 on May 17, 2009 9:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

My main issue with Paris was his timing. Given the state Sexton was in, and with Rogan desperately needed the stoppage, calling time to put the mouth piece back in was a mistake. When a fighter is in desperate trouble, that’s hardly a “break” in the action. Around 16 or 17 seconds ticked off that were absolutely crucial.

Then to call time with 25 seconds left in the round? Was that really necessary? If Rogan appeared to be struggling, I could see it, but he was forcing the fight, and his eye looked only fractionally worse than it did before the round – let him finish the round and have his chance at the stoppage before taking him over to the doctor.

Regardless of all that, at least they will fight again, and it should be a good one.

by A.F. on May 19, 2009 5:57 AM EDT reply actions  

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