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Hatton Should Retire, Says Mayweather Sr.

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Floyd Mayweather Sr. is suggesting that Ricky Hatton should make the right move and retire from boxing before he gets seriously injured.

“That’s boxing," said Mayweather Sr. after Hatton’s loss. “I would suggest he retire. At the end of the day it’s his decision."

“He tried twice. He failed twice. He lost to my son and to lose to someone below that, it’s time to leave the ring. He made a good profit. Sometimes you have to go when your prime is still there,"

I don't know about you guys, but for me, losing to two pound-for-pound kings doesn't mean that you should hang it up already.

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well like i said ealeir he can’t win at 147, and his one claim to immortality was that he was undefeated at 140. thats obviously gone, and there ain’t much for hatton to do now. he can try and make a fight with the loser of jmm-fm (which will obv be jmm), but thats about it.

The Dude Abides

by battle axe of doom on May 3, 2009 12:38 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I still think a Hatton-Khan farewell fight might happen.

by Nick_ on May 3, 2009 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i have yet to watch a khan fight, but i’m assuming hatton could easily knock him out

The Dude Abides

by battle axe of doom on May 3, 2009 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Probably

The O/U on that one would probably be 4 rounds. Hatton’s chin isn’t great and Khan’s a decent puncher, but Khan has a downright awful beard.

Vogt early, Vogt often.

by Brickhaus on May 4, 2009 1:04 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I seen a few comments on here regarding Hattons chin. Pac & Manny are precision punch planters.That slot that spaked Rick would of stopped a freight train.
Wear and tear, Ricks Brain has been bashed around that skull far too much, softed the cells and i just think it cant do what it did no more. But what do i know i no cells myself picking the great Hitman over Manny!

I dont think Hatton has a bad chin but Khan really has.

"One Shall Stand. One shall Fall" - Optimus Prime

by dinkman on May 4, 2009 4:46 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

how do you explain luis collazo having hatton dazed and confused in the last round of their fight (which he should’ have lost)?

The Dude Abides

by battle axe of doom on May 4, 2009 5:03 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

And whats your point? He was dazed and confused and survived because he got a good chin. A boxer with a weaker chin would not of made it. Like Taylor last week. If you want me to explain to you why its because Collazo was hitting him hard and often.

Thats not Hattons weight like you know and was very tired come that last round. But he did not lose did he?

"One Shall Stand. One shall Fall" - Optimus Prime

by dinkman on May 4, 2009 6:07 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

actually he survived because he fell on collazo and was able to clinch. if collazo wasn’t standing there hatton would’ve fallen on his face and probably couldn’t have been able to rob collazo

actually he did lose, he was just awarded the victory :)

The Dude Abides

by battle axe of doom on May 4, 2009 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

haha if’s and but’s mate.

And you do talk like it was some really bad stink job like Lewis-Holyfield. There was a point in it either way at most.

"One Shall Stand. One shall Fall" - Optimus Prime

by dinkman on May 5, 2009 3:27 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Very close fight. I thought it “exposed” Ricky to some degree in that he was certainly no longer some unbeatable mauler, and I even scored it for Collazo, but I’ve never held that fight “against” Hatton. He won a close fight on the cards. I felt he lost. I also think Pacquiao lost to Marquez the second time around. I also thought Oscar-Floyd was very, very close because Floyd really didn’t do much.

by SC on May 5, 2009 4:29 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

its not much a fight though. just easy payday in the UK

The Dude Abides

by battle axe of doom on May 3, 2009 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

it wouldn't be easy

Not with the way Amir Khan hits and the fact that Freddie Roach would be training Khan. I think I’d probably pick Khan, honestly. He’s a big lightweight and he’ll be a pretty big 140 too. I don’t think Ricky at this point could deal with his speed and power.

by SC on May 3, 2009 8:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hatton-Khan

Benn-Eubank for the new century. 85000 at Wembly. Its not Impossible….

"One Shall Stand. One shall Fall" - Optimus Prime

by dinkman on May 4, 2009 4:43 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

There’s no shame in either loss but as Ricky gets older its gonna be harder and harder for him to over come the deficiencies in his D and his over aggressiveness. I think he should fight the loser of the PBF vs JMM fight and then retire.

YAMATO DAMASHII

by R.T. on May 3, 2009 2:51 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

He still thinks pretty highly of his son apparently.

by xDieseLx on May 3, 2009 3:08 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

From a skill set point of view

he damn well should.

Wear something sexy to my funeral.

by Pops Daniels on May 3, 2009 8:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hatton would have never beaten Pacquiao no matter what the game plan was, but if it was Mayweather’s plan to have Hatton fight head on like that, maybe Mayweather Sr. should hang it up as far as training goes. No wonder his son doesn’t use him.

by jjstraka on May 3, 2009 4:51 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

There’s no way he was following Floyd’s gameplan fighting like that. Even if going straight at Manny might’ve been his best chance (like you said, he loses last night no matter what), that’s not what Floyd knows, not what he teaches, not what he preaches. Mayweather implored him to move his head more. This was why.

by SC on May 3, 2009 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hatton

Even said so himself, something along the lines of the heart took over the head. He’s really a class act and so is pac-man. This is not going to diminish my opinion of Ricky Hatton, he was a great fighter who lost to the two best fighters of his generation, he went for the gold and fell short. No shortage of balls in the Hatton house, and no shortage of heart or humility either.

by rmatheny on May 3, 2009 8:15 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

No doubt this wasn’t Mayweather Sr.‘s stategy, but if it wasn’t, what was the whole point of this relationship? Hatton picked up where he left off in the Mayweather Jr. fight from the get-go. I watched a replay a couple hrs. ago with the British commentary, and they couldn’t believe he was using the same strategy. They sounded panicked and seemed to know what was coming 45 seconds into the fight. I respect Hatton immensely (honestly I feel really bad for him, and his fans) but it seemed liked he just decided to throw out his entire training camp as soon as the bell rang. He only lasted longer against Floyd because he is content to kill you slow. Manny is a machine gun. I guess I just would have expected him to try to survive the first 3-4 rounds, since that’s what the conventional wisdom seemed suggest he needed to do.

by jjstraka on May 3, 2009 10:24 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Well he got hurt pretty fast, and then all he could think to do probably was just going back to what he’s been taught for two decades. I’ve got a feeling when Ricky and Floyd part professionally it will not be nice on either side.

by SC on May 3, 2009 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Floyd is content to ‘kill you slow’, but even so Floyd cracked him with that legendary ‘catch hook’ and didn’t put him to sleep. Pac straight up put him to sleep and it wasn’t like Hatton was hard-charging forward into the punch. I’m not saying Floyd can’t hit, but the comparison of KOs makes Pac look like a much bigger puncher.

by lcollins1 on May 3, 2009 11:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Even with all his bluster and pre-fight antics, I have to honestly wonder what kind of shot Mayweather Sr. thought Hatton had in this fight. Seems like Freddie Roach had this thing figured out a long time ago, and I can’t believe someone as experienced as Sr. didn’t know his fighter was going to be in serious trouble in that ring.

by jjstraka on May 4, 2009 12:24 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

“I really thought Ricky would get him,” Mayweather Sr. said. “I really don’t want to get into it more than that.”

from ESPN

One thing I am sure about is that there’s no way Mayweather thought Pacquiao wasn’t a great challenge for Hatton. That was just talk.

by SC on May 4, 2009 12:30 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

hatton losing to two guys literally at their peak (or as near to the peak of their lifetime of skills as possible) isn’t necessarily a call for retirement.

Gatti. Dekkers. Pele. Aoki. Kang. Vanderlei.
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by theworldsoldestsport on May 4, 2009 10:34 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

See, I don’t think so either. He’s 30 years old. Hasn’t been in a lot of wars. If he’s got some physical issues they’re more his own doing with the between-fights binging than punishment he’s taken in the ring. What’s bad is that Ricky isn’t very good at 147, and he knows it as well as anyone else. If cutting to 140 is going to hurt him as a fighter, what’s he do? Go to 147 and get beaten up?

And hey, if his heart isn’t in it, or if he would prefer to go spend time with his family, then good on him. He’s made a whole hell of a lot more money than anyone would’ve expected, and he earned every bit of it.

by SC on May 4, 2009 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I would love to see him continue on if that’s what he wants, but it’s just that there is nothing big for him to strive for. He will never get another chance like he had the last two fights, will now always be considered a very good but not great fighter. The reason for retirement wouldn’t be a diminished skill set or age (like De La Hoya) but the fact that he got demolished in his last two fights and now has no avenue to pursue. Yes, they were to the two best fighters in the world, but they were devastating defeats, and Saturday’s in particular was the kind of ring destruction that could ruin a fighter mentally. Hatton’s fans will stay with him no matter what, but the best he could hope for would be to go out after a defeat of Khan, but at this point, I have serious doubts he could even hang in that fight, much less beat him.

by jjstraka on May 4, 2009 3:47 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I think he should seriously consider retiring, but only because he was knocked out about as completely as one can be. To have that effect, a punch has to cause the brain to move within the skull. I wouldn’t want to see him get back into the ring without doing everything he can to make sure he is not vulnerable to brain injury. He doesn’t want to end up like Freddy Roche, or have worse problems. As for the fight, he showed up fit and prepared, and he lost to Manny Pacquio. He’s got nothing to apologize for.

by Hungry Freak on May 5, 2009 2:30 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

maybe mayweather sr should retire instead

coz he’s training boxers to get KO’ed, if your boxer doesn’t listens to you then you don’t command respect…

by armstrong on May 6, 2009 6:00 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Hatton must quit, forget Katsidis, forget Khan - he would lose.

I cannot accept the logic that Hatton should carry on because there’s still fights out there for him to win. Yes, Floyd Jr and Pacquiao are special fighters, precision punchers and all the rest.
But Hatton is genuinely feeling punches much more than he used to. You may say he is fighting in the elite now, but what about Juan Lazcarno, who had him seriously dazed? Hatton trained to box a smart fight against Pacquiao, but he just reverted to type and kept getting stung by the brilliant southpaw lead right hook. In the ring, he has aged rapidly.
Hatton’s reflexes have slowed down, hence his guard gets lazy, he isn’t moving his head the way he used to and he is walking in straight lines. He’s a sitting duck and if he faces a good puncher, he is in serious trouble.
Fair enough, Hatton may want a swansong, but how many more heavy knockouts before his health is jepordised? Amir Khan has a bad chin, but it could be a tragic fight. Khan is fast and powerful, and he could KO a shot Ricky Hatton. This would be a false boost to Khan’s credibility – like beating Barrera was.
Ricky only looked dangerous in the clinch against Pacquiao, who was able to use his speed to keep out of harms way . Khan is young, can still develop if trained properly and if he used intelligent movement he could embarass Ricky. Conversley Ricky could close the ring off and smother Khan, who is obviously lightyears behind Pacquiao, but personally I don’t want that fight for Ricky.
Katsidis would be an incredible spectacle, but I would call it a high-risk health warning for both fighters, especially Hatton. Katsidis is younger and probably take a better punch. His heavy KO to Casamayor was, like Hatton’s, at the hands of a brilliant precision puncher.
I just feel that if Hatton fights on, against the fighters who have been mentioned here and elsewhere, he will lose brutally and it will hurt me to see that.
All fighters will tell you: once you have been knocked out, it softens you up. Hatton has been slowly softened up all his career due to his bull charging style. Now he has been KO’d heavily, I want to see him retire with his head held high and stay involved in the sport in other ways. Why risk brain damage? He has a child to raise yet. Retiring from fighting will be a blessing for him.

by maxirap on May 8, 2009 3:28 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

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