Manny Pacquiao puts himself on the short list
Ricky Hatton went back to his corner after the first round, having tasted canvas twice due to the blinding speed and shocking power of Manny Pacquiao, and he looked hopeless. He looked defeated.
He looked like a man who knew he was in way over his head.
If that indeed was the prevailing thought in Hatton's mind, he was right. Less than three minutes later, he was destroyed by a left from Pacquiao, knocked out nearly cold.
I was up late after the fight, drinking and discussing the bout with friends until about 6am. I'm slightly hungover today, about to eat a panini, glancing outside and catching glimpses of my neighbors talking on cell phones, hearing their brakes squeal as they try to park their cars.
But the image of Hatton flat, hurt, and conquered won't leave my mind. And I'm still not sure how to go about discussing this fight.
There are the easy targets. Maybe Hatton should retire. Maybe I could complain about a pay-per-view that featured four dull undercard fights and a two-round demolition in the main event for 50 dollars. Maybe...
But I won't complain about the cost, because something special happened last night. This was sort of like having watched Clyde Drexler have a great season only to meet up with Michael Jordan in the NBA Finals. Or like watching one of those recent Ohio State football teams look unstoppable in Big Ten competition, only to meet up with a team that can flat-out out-run them in a bowl game.
Hatton was no match for Pacquiao -- and it doesn't mean Hatton's not good. It means Manny Pacquiao has gotten even better, a scary proposition for anyone that wants to fight him in the future.
The best news for Ricky Hatton is that he's OK, and that if you ask a lot of people who aren't crazy, there's nothing for him to be ashamed about. He's 45-2, reigned as 140-pound champion for about four years, and lost only to Mayweather (the best pound-for-pound fighter in the world then) and Pacquiao (the best now). If he retired tomorrow, I couldn't do anything but salute him, wish him the best, and hope he's got his mind right.
I don't think Ricky Hatton will retire. At the very least, a farewell fight in Manchester will be in the offing. I also believe he still has the goods to beat a lot of good fighters.
What this means for Pacquiao is simple and plain: He's now been a legitimate, lineal champion in four weight classes (112, 126, 130 and now 140) and has held world titles in two other divisions (122 and 135). No one has ever done this.
We're now talking about an all-time great. We're talking about one of the best fighters of this generation -- maybe the best.
In my generation, we've seen a few greats. Floyd Mayweather Jr. has done it on immense natural skill, great training from his father and uncle, and an ability to not be hit that rivals the best in history. Roy Jones Jr. did it on ridiculous reflexes and an uncanny ability to hit guys four times before they could even cover up. Winky Wright is/was a cover-up defensive master. Shane Mosley mixes skills and fortitude like few in the game today.
But nobody has been this insane force of nature that Pacquiao has become. He really hasn't lost a round in his last three fights, which ended when David Diaz was knocked out in nine, Oscar de la Hoya quit on his stool after eight, and now Ricky Hatton was drilled inside of two rounds.
Even though I don't think Hatton will retire straight off, I will not be surprised if this fight took a lot of Hatton's heart and desire, which would also mean that the last three guys Pacquiao has beaten have all found themselves either retiring (Oscar) or questioning what to do next (Diaz hasn't fought in almost a year, Hatton is up in the air now). He also essentially beat the spirit out of Erik Morales (who is planning an ill-advised comeback) and Marco Antonio Barrera (whose ill-advised comeback hasn't gone very well).
But what about Pacquiao? Where does he go now?
There's nobody at 140 that's a match for him, so this stay will be short-lived. His rival Juan Manuel Marquez -- the best opponent of his career -- will fight Floyd Mayweather Jr. at a catchweight on July 18, and most people expect the winner to face Pacquiao. But Mayweather-Pacquiao just might not get done because of economics and fighter pride. What then? Bob Arum wants to match Manny with Miguel Cotto at 147, but let's not forget Cotto has a big test coming in Joshua Clottey (HBO, June 13). Shane Mosley?
When you get this good, there are only so many options. Stay-busy fights or bouts that aren't against the cream of the crop get called cowardice. You're expected to fight the best when you are the best.
Manny Pacquiao is the best. Let's see what the future holds, because the present is pretty amazing.
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I think there are other fights ou there for Manny other than the logical superfights at 147. Timothy Bradley would be one at 140. Or how about Berto at 147… that would be a good test.
"This fight'll be the nastiest thing you'll ever see. I been sober for six weeks, and that makes me vicious."
-- Randall 'Tex' Cobb
by jrok on May 3, 2009 6:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I think he destroys them both. Berto had trouble with Collazo, a lesser southpaw than Manny who doesn’t hit as hard or as accurately. Bradley’s just not near his class IMO.
by SC on May 3, 2009 6:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bradley
I think Manny beats him badly. But, its a good historical matchup, and it gives Manny the opportunity to work against the shoulder roll, which I think would be good practice for a Mayweather fight.
"This fight'll be the nastiest thing you'll ever see. I been sober for six weeks, and that makes me vicious."
-- Randall 'Tex' Cobb
by jrok on May 3, 2009 6:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
With Berto, well, not many conventional fighters can look good against southpaws period. I’m just saying, if Manny can’t get Mayweather to sign, he could make a statement by fighting any top ten fighter at 147 who will pick up the phone. He could establish himself as the “anti-Mayweather.”
Of course, Cotto and Mosley are much bigger, more competitive fights if Arum is game.
"This fight'll be the nastiest thing you'll ever see. I been sober for six weeks, and that makes me vicious."
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by jrok on May 3, 2009 6:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What does pacquiao want from here?
Money, history or simply to fight the best?
I think the answer to all three of those probably lies at welterweight for now, unless marquez beats mayweather. He’s already taken the linear title at 140lbs, and there aren’t really any stars or serious test left in the division.
Personally, I think the fight with floyd is the most important match that could possibly be made in boxing right now by some distance. If it doesn’t happen, then cotto would be a fine replacement.
by thirdslip on May 3, 2009 6:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
So, what happens if Floyd will not fight Manny?
That seems to be the question. Will Floyd be treated like a pariah for ducking the only real mega-fight on the horizon? I hope so. The man who calls himself “Money” has only shown small flashes of concern for what public opinion of him may be. What do you guys think?
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by Pops Daniels on May 3, 2009 8:09 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I don’t think Floyd gives a damn, or else he’s delusional about public opinion. But if he doesn’t fight Pacquiao it will be over money, because Manny will rightly want a 50-50 split. Also if he beats JMM as everyone expects and doesn’t fight Manny Pacquiao, Shane Mosley, Miguel Cotto, or someone, he’s going to get called out like never before. When he ruled P4P I think it was sort of easier for him to get away with some stuff; the game has changed. The #1 P4P fighter is now a guy who’ll fight Godzilla.
by SC on May 3, 2009 8:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
I see money being the excuse to not make the fight happen. I may be ignorant to many of the mechanics behind the scenes of how fights get made, but Floyd has always lived with the specter of doubt about his heart and desire to fight the tough fights. He made it very clear early in his career that he was not interested in being hurt inside the ring. And I think, as such, he’s become a masterful technician that fights guys that he’s 100% certain he can whip. It’s a strange dichotomy for a guy that lets bravado lead his charge (granted, not unusual in the sport, nor his own family). What I’m saying is, can he live with the fact that nearly every fight fan will think he’s a sissy for not fighting the only fight left for him?
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by Pops Daniels on May 3, 2009 8:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What I’m saying is, can he live with the fact that nearly every fight fan will think he’s a sissy for not fighting the only fight left for him?
Unfortunately for all of us, I think he can.
by SC on May 3, 2009 8:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
One mitigating factor in PBF’s mind might be commercial interests outside of boxing. He wants to keep making commercials and engaging other “mainstream” revenues. The shame of him ducking EVERYONE after JMM would hurt his out-of-the-ring commercial viability.
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by Matt Miller on May 3, 2009 9:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The only fight I really want to see is Floyd
I suppose Shane would be an OK 2nd option but Floyd-Manny needs to be made.
-Brian
by bp on May 3, 2009 8:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Amen to that.
Boxing is the beginning of all sports. I'm willing to bet that the first sport was a man against another man in a fight. (Omar Epps)
by Chaos100 on May 7, 2009 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pac vs Cotto is the easier fight to make
And to be honest, I’d much rather watch a Cotto/Pac fight. Never been a fan of Mayweathers style. That said, I’d still buy the PPV
by Full Throttle on May 3, 2009 8:41 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I must have confused my gut feeling of Ricky Hatton pulling off an upset with diarrhea because I was way off. I need to start listening to my rational side more often. Man, Hatton simply got destroyed. That KO was brutal.
In all honesty, we should all know by now that money is all that matters to fighters. A fighter couldn’t give two shits if a fan thinks he’s a p*ssy for not fighting the best fighters. I hope a match between Pacquio and Mayweather gets made after he beats Marquez though.
by erod on May 3, 2009 9:14 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Well, Mayweather says he is back to regain his P4P status (although he claims he’s never lost it) so if he wants that back, he must know that he will have to face off with Pac to get it. We will soon find out how serious he is about that statement.
by Full Throttle on May 3, 2009 9:35 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I think a Pacquiao fight with Cotto or Mosely is more realistic than a fight with Mayweather or Marquez. I think Mayweather doesn’t duck fighters as much as people think. As someone pointed out last night De la Hoya was considered dangerous and he took on Judah when he was still a viable fighter, as well as Arturo Gatti. But Manny on the other hand is not afraid to fight anyone, so because of that I think his next fight will be a good matchup because of the type of fighter Pac is
by pretty boy floyd on May 3, 2009 9:39 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I saw on the news that May 2 is now a national holiday in the Phillipines.
Keep firing Assholes!
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by Ubernoober on May 3, 2009 9:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Mayweather/Pacquaio would be the fight of a generation, but barring that, Cotto or Mosley would also be great fights. I don’t think any of these fighters would get dominated like De La Hoya or Hatton did. At this point it will just be interesting to see if anyone can take Manny down. As of now, it doesn’t seem likely, but then again, who would have thought Pacquaio would have essentially ended Hatton’s career in less than 6 minutes last night.
by jjstraka on May 3, 2009 10:14 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
''Mayweather/Pacquaio would be the fight of a generation''
All I keep picturing for that fight is Mayweather lying on the ropes thinking he can dodge and block all of Manny’s punches and getting KTFO. Probably because that is what I would want to happen, and I respectively disagree that it would be the fight of a generation. Maybe on paper, but I see Floyd being more on the defense than offense in that fight. Just my opinion
by Full Throttle on May 3, 2009 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It would be a key moment in boxing history, great fight or not.
by SC on May 3, 2009 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I meant on paper. You can never tell if the actual fight will live up to the hype, but hype is very important in boxing. Floyd is a definitely a defensive fighter, but he is arguably one of the best defensive fighters, and one of the only guys (if not the only) with the natural speed and ability to keep up with Manny’s onslaughts and survive.
by jjstraka on May 3, 2009 10:35 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
If Mayweather/Pacquaio never happens it will be the greatest never happened fight of all time.
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by dinkman on May 4, 2009 4:49 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Absolutely.
Although Johnson/Calzaghe, Jones Jr/Michalczewski, Lennox/Tyson (while both at their peaks) and Klitschko/Klitschko are also in the running, as far as the modern era goes….
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by Chaos100 on May 7, 2009 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

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