Bad Left Hook Fight Night: Andre Berto v. Juan Urango
by SC on May 30, 2009 3:31 PM EDT
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| ANDRE BERTO WBC Titleholder Ring Magazine No. 6 (147) |
JUAN URANGO Ring Magazine No. 6 Contender (140) |
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| 24-0 | Record | 21-1-1 |
| 19 | KO | 16 |
| Winterhaven, FL | Hometown | Monterria, Colombia |
| 25 | Age | 28 |
| 5'8 1/2" | Height | 5'7" |
| Reach | 71" | |
| Luis Collazo (UD-12) Steve Forbes (UD-12) David Estrada (TKO-11) |
Notable Wins | Herman Ngoudjo (UD-12) Carlos Vilches (KO-4) Naoufel Ben Rabah (UD-12) |
| Notable Losses | Ricky Hatton (UD-12) | |
| ALFREDO ANGULO | KERMIT CINTRON | |
| 15-0 | Record | 30-2-1 |
| 12 | KO | 27 |
| Mexicali, Mexico | Hometown | Carolinas, Puerto Rico |
| 26 | Age | 29 |
| 5'10" | Height | 5'11" |
| 69" | Reach | 74" |
| Cosme Rivera (TKO-5) Andrey Tsurkan (TKO-10) Richar Gutierrez (TKO-5) |
Notable Wins | Lovemore N'dou (UD-12) Jesse Feliciano (TKO-10) David Estrada (TKO-10) |
| Notable Losses | Antonio Margarito (TKO-5, KO-6) | |
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I believe Richar is officially Richard now
FWIW
Vogt early, Vogt often.
by Brickhaus on May 30, 2009 4:03 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I just bet a shit load of money on Berto/Urango lasting past 10 1/2
Thoughts?
by Option27 on May 30, 2009 4:06 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
If you think Berto will win and fight smart
Then it’s a good bet. I don’t think Berto can stop Urango. Berto’s strength is overrated, and Urango’s not afraid to fire back when he’s getting punched. If the odds for that are better than the odds for Berto winning, then it’s a good bet. Urango’s only chance of winning is by KO though, unless he does something like break Berto’s jaw like he did to Ngoudjo.
Vogt early, Vogt often.
by Brickhaus on May 30, 2009 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
BTW
Urango still looks like a beast. Hopefully he’s carried his strength up. Looks certainly aren’t everything when it comes to power, but it looks like he should be stronger at WW than he was at JWW, and he was a freak at JWW.
Vogt early, Vogt often.
by Brickhaus on May 30, 2009 4:16 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I wish I could RBR Chagaev-Valuev
Even though I would have hated the fight.
Vogt early, Vogt often.
by Brickhaus on May 30, 2009 5:16 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I hope I can make it back in time for these cards. I promised to go on one of those “couple dates” tonight, with my friend who works for DC Comics and her comic-writer boyfriend. I am thinking of pitching them an idea… It’s about a peace-loving, gentle giant who everyone believes is some sort of mighty warrior, thanks to the work of a mysterious, shadowy agency. Its a comedy, suitable for ages seven and up…. very little violence involved.
"This fight'll be the nastiest thing you'll ever see. I been sober for six weeks, and that makes me vicious."
-- Randall 'Tex' Cobb
by jrok on May 30, 2009 5:33 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Call it...
Nikolai…
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on May 30, 2009 7:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Would he have any secret powers?
Like, for instance, the ability to grow body hair at an extraordinary rate?
Or to psychically alter specific people’s perception of him, and make them think he is a hero, even after he gets beaten in a fight?
Boxing is the beginning of all sports. I'm willing to bet that the first sport was a man against another man in a fight. (Omar Epps)
by Chaos100 on May 30, 2009 7:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, those are all good ideas. I am already trying to think of who could play him in the movie version. Are there any guys out there that look like Chewbacca after a bad bikini wax?
"This fight'll be the nastiest thing you'll ever see. I been sober for six weeks, and that makes me vicious."
-- Randall 'Tex' Cobb
by jrok on May 30, 2009 9:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Chewbacca would have to use some Miracle-Gro to play Nikolai....
Boxing is the beginning of all sports. I'm willing to bet that the first sport was a man against another man in a fight. (Omar Epps)
by Chaos100 on May 30, 2009 9:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
v. Benjamin Button
Vogt early, Vogt often.
by Brickhaus on May 30, 2009 9:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Except El Duque is ACTUALLY 55
Vogt early, Vogt often.
by Brickhaus on May 30, 2009 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why bother even mentioning Kirkland?
Vogt early, Vogt often.
by Brickhaus on May 30, 2009 9:54 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
He’s always going to get a shot….
/gets coat.
Seattle Seahawks: We've got Brian Russell and TWO kickers!
by SSreporters on May 30, 2009 9:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Since this is not on TV over here;
can anyone suggest a link, please?
Boxing is the beginning of all sports. I'm willing to bet that the first sport was a man against another man in a fight. (Omar Epps)
by Chaos100 on May 30, 2009 9:55 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
jesus
Cintron rehydrated to 169. Angulo to 159.
by SC on May 30, 2009 9:56 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I've had a little punt on Cintron by KO
4/1…
Boxing is the beginning of all sports. I'm willing to bet that the first sport was a man against another man in a fight. (Omar Epps)
by Chaos100 on May 30, 2009 9:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
it's not a bad bet
My Cintron hatin’ aside, I think he’s a fairly live dog here.
by SC on May 30, 2009 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He was probably wearing a lot of clothes
Vogt early, Vogt often.
by Brickhaus on May 30, 2009 9:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
169lbs!!! either Cintron is flabby or solid as a brick shithouse
by dervish686 on May 30, 2009 9:56 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
or somewhere in between... ;)
Boxing is the beginning of all sports. I'm willing to bet that the first sport was a man against another man in a fight. (Omar Epps)
by Chaos100 on May 30, 2009 9:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Crap
Magic/Lakers final anyone?
Seattle Seahawks: We've got Brian Russell and TWO kickers!
by SSreporters on May 30, 2009 9:58 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
yup. cavs are going down tonight
by sonofapsycho on May 30, 2009 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
LeBron's teammates blow goat nuts.
Seattle Seahawks: We've got Brian Russell and TWO kickers!
by SSreporters on May 30, 2009 9:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He has the biggest eyebrown ridges of anyone I've ever seen
Vogt early, Vogt often.
by Brickhaus on May 30, 2009 9:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
A Jimmy Lennon Jr. sighting on HBO!
Seattle Seahawks: We've got Brian Russell and TWO kickers!
by SSreporters on May 30, 2009 9:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
WWE PPV tonight?
Vogt early, Vogt often.
by Brickhaus on May 30, 2009 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe he was booked for Valuev-Chagaev
Vogt early, Vogt often.
by Brickhaus on May 30, 2009 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Stupid question
But is alcohol even legal there? I thought I remembered that they had prohibition there pretty recently.
Vogt early, Vogt often.
by Brickhaus on May 30, 2009 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Worst ring announcer ever though is Joe Martinez on WEC.
ARE YOU READYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!!!!
Seattle Seahawks: We've got Brian Russell and TWO kickers!
by SSreporters on May 30, 2009 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Mexican guy who did Peter-Maskaev was memorably bad
Vogt early, Vogt often.
by Brickhaus on May 30, 2009 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Joe Martinez?
Seattle Seahawks: We've got Brian Russell and TWO kickers!
by SSreporters on May 30, 2009 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Belts are great!
High praise from Telos. :-)
by schraubd on May 30, 2009 10:02 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Cintron looks as sharp as I've seen him so far
Vogt early, Vogt often.
by Brickhaus on May 30, 2009 10:03 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Angulo seems to be having problems getting inside Cintron's jab
The Manny Steward influence is still there I guess.
Vogt early, Vogt often.
by Brickhaus on May 30, 2009 10:04 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
cintron
has color in his face for once
by sonofapsycho on May 30, 2009 10:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Make sure that his hands is up, Lennox?
Get someone new. Angulo is hurting Cintron.
Seattle Seahawks: We've got Brian Russell and TWO kickers!
by SSreporters on May 30, 2009 10:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Angulo-Cintron R1
Cintron throwing a jab to start. Nice right to the body by Cintron. So far he’s really looking sharp. Angulo laying back, feeling Cintron out. They throw some leather, neither landing a big shot. Right to the body by Angulo. Left jab to the body by Angulo, Cintron throws a jab up top. Cintron throws another right to the body. Big counter right by Angulo! Lennox calls it a “wake-up shot.” Left hook Angulo. Right hand Angulo! And another! Cintron backing down now. Good start for Kermit, good finish for Angulo as we enter the final ten seconds. Tough round to call.
Angulo 10-9, landed the better shots, but I can see a Cintron score
by SC on May 30, 2009 10:06 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
10-9 Cintron for me
Vogt early, Vogt often.
by Brickhaus on May 30, 2009 10:06 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
10-9 Angulo, but I can see the arg for both sides.
by schraubd on May 30, 2009 10:06 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
10-9 Angulo for me
Seattle Seahawks: We've got Brian Russell and TWO kickers!
by SSreporters on May 30, 2009 10:06 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Angulo's punches are slow.
Seattle Seahawks: We've got Brian Russell and TWO kickers!
by SSreporters on May 30, 2009 10:08 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
They always are and always have been
Same is true for Margo though.
Vogt early, Vogt often.
by Brickhaus on May 30, 2009 10:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well it's hard to be fast when you're cheating.
Seattle Seahawks: We've got Brian Russell and TWO kickers!
by SSreporters on May 30, 2009 10:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good fight. 20-18 Angulo.
Seattle Seahawks: We've got Brian Russell and TWO kickers!
by SSreporters on May 30, 2009 10:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
10-10 round for me
I suck.
20-19 Cintron.
Vogt early, Vogt often.
by Brickhaus on May 30, 2009 10:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
19-19 — same sort of round, but I thought Cintron had a little more than he did in R1 and that swung it the other way.
by schraubd on May 30, 2009 10:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Angulo-Cintron R2
Cintron going to the body again. I like his approach so far, honestly. Left hook thuds for Cintron. Right hand Angulo. Cintron throwing in combos. Angulo flicks a jab. Cintron flicking a jab, then misses a right over the top. Angulo is winning a lot of these exchanges, but it’s not showy, and he’s not really pressing yet. I really like how Cintron is moving around the ring tonight. He looks a lot more fluid and natural than usual. Angulo with a couple nice rights. Cintron thuds a right in return. Uppercut Cintron. Angulo landing better shots still, I think. I’m not even busting on Kermit — he’s looking better than normal, IMO, but he’s losing a close fight. Very close fight in fact.
Angulo 10-9
Angulo 20-18
by SC on May 30, 2009 10:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
hmm
how can a guy whos walking straight in, eating punches be outboxing the other guy?
by sonofapsycho on May 30, 2009 10:11 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Because Angulo is walking through them.
Seattle Seahawks: We've got Brian Russell and TWO kickers!
by SSreporters on May 30, 2009 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
so did mike tyson
against buster douglas for 9 rounds.
he was hardly outboxing him for those rounds.
by sonofapsycho on May 30, 2009 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
How did that left hook not knock him down?
Seattle Seahawks: We've got Brian Russell and TWO kickers!
by SSreporters on May 30, 2009 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This commentating is horrible
You’d think Angulo was winning a blowout the way they’re talking. Meanwhile, Hurruld has it 20-18 Cintron.
Vogt early, Vogt often.
by Brickhaus on May 30, 2009 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Frankly
Cintron has been seeming to land the harder punches the last two rounds. Angulo is just like Andrade, where he doesn’t stop just because he gets hit.
Vogt early, Vogt often.
by Brickhaus on May 30, 2009 10:13 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
29-28 Angulo. No question a Cintron round.
Seattle Seahawks: We've got Brian Russell and TWO kickers!
by SSreporters on May 30, 2009 10:14 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Big round for Cintron
30-28 Cintron
Vogt early, Vogt often.
by Brickhaus on May 30, 2009 10:14 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Angulo-Cintron R3
Angulo is walking through the Cintron offense thus far. It’s very Margarito-Cintron at this point. Cintron with a nice combo, not all of it lands. Right hand lands by Cintron. Cintron is moving SO MUCH BETTER than usual. I really feel that should be noted. And he’s sort of dominating this round. Big left by Cintron! That clearly hurt Angulo. I mean clearly. Even Max and Bob had to note it. Big round for Kermit. Great left ends it by the round’s victor.
Cintron 10-9
Angulo 29-28
by SC on May 30, 2009 10:14 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
29-28 Cintron. Very good round for Kermit.
by schraubd on May 30, 2009 10:14 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I still hate HBO's interpreters.
Seattle Seahawks: We've got Brian Russell and TWO kickers!
by SSreporters on May 30, 2009 10:14 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Angulo's corner giving him great advice
He really does need to get on the inside and throw more punches. Cintron always looks uncomfortable at close range, like any former Kronk fighter.
Vogt early, Vogt often.
by Brickhaus on May 30, 2009 10:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
WTF was that for
Cintron stunned him with a punch, and ref breaks in there…
Vogt early, Vogt often.
by Brickhaus on May 30, 2009 10:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
beggining of the end for angulo i think
cintron is landed at will
by sonofapsycho on May 30, 2009 10:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
He is hurt!
Seattle Seahawks: We've got Brian Russell and TWO kickers!
by SSreporters on May 30, 2009 10:16 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Cintron actually seemed to get hurt near the end of that exchange as well
Vogt early, Vogt often.
by Brickhaus on May 30, 2009 10:16 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
My dad just said that too.
Seattle Seahawks: We've got Brian Russell and TWO kickers!
by SSreporters on May 30, 2009 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gary Shaw is having a bad month.
Vogt early, Vogt often.
by Brickhaus on May 30, 2009 10:16 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Angulo-Cintron R4
Hurrld has it 3-0 Cintron. Totally defensible.
Cintron warned for a low blow? early, and he bows. Clearly inadvertant if landed at all. I’m not above being wrong and I like what Kermit’s doing tonight. I have him down but exceptionally close. The one clear round was his. Cintron hurts Angulo! Very hurt! Cintron pressing and throwing! Angulo grabs up. Alfredo’s in trouble.
Great combo by Cintron! Angulo is getting pounded on right now. He’s boxing AND landing his big shots. Great stuff from him these last two rounds especially. Cintron gets off the ropes. Angulo lands some lowish shots. Cintron backs him down again, and now they trade! Angulo’s toughness is proving out, but Kermit is taking this fight over for sure. Excellent round for Kermit Cintron.
Cintron 10-9
38-38
by SC on May 30, 2009 10:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I have to wonder whether Cintron will slow down late though
This is by FAR the most active I’ve seen him.
Anyway, another Cintron round pretty clearly, 40-37 Cintron.
Vogt early, Vogt often.
by Brickhaus on May 30, 2009 10:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I’ve never seen Cintron look this good. Cintron with this degree of boxing skill and poise is a scary man.
39-37 Cintron.
by schraubd on May 30, 2009 10:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Well I missed
On Cintron KO 4… Not for a lack of Cintron trying
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on May 30, 2009 10:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Oh yeah, 38-38 even.
Seattle Seahawks: We've got Brian Russell and TWO kickers!
by SSreporters on May 30, 2009 10:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
ronnie shields
is not a good trainer at all.
hes more of a cheerleader than teacher.
by sonofapsycho on May 30, 2009 10:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
He's still fighting Kronk style
Upright, lots of stiff jabs, staying in the middle of the ring, clinching on the inside
Vogt early, Vogt often.
by Brickhaus on May 30, 2009 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Angulo needs to move his fucking head
Vogt early, Vogt often.
by Brickhaus on May 30, 2009 10:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Angulo looks weak
Vogt early, Vogt often.
by Brickhaus on May 30, 2009 10:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Like this is the 12th round or something
Vogt early, Vogt often.
by Brickhaus on May 30, 2009 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ugh
This ref blows. Is he going to impeded every time when there isn’t even a low punch?
Seattle Seahawks: We've got Brian Russell and TWO kickers!
by SSreporters on May 30, 2009 10:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Angulo-Cintron R5
Cintron throwing again this round. Angulo has zero head movement at all. His defense is terrible. I mean that’s OK when you’re that tough, but he’s just not doing much. Cintron is slowing down a bit, but I still think he’s winning this fight. I’m really watching him and just admiring the changes he’s made from his last fight.
Cintron 10-9
Cintron 48-47
by SC on May 30, 2009 10:22 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
48-47 Cintron
Seattle Seahawks: We've got Brian Russell and TWO kickers!
by SSreporters on May 30, 2009 10:22 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Crappy round for both
I’m still going with Cintron based on splitting the gloves on hard jabs a bunch, but I wouldn’t complain if you score it for Angulo.
Vogt early, Vogt often.
by Brickhaus on May 30, 2009 10:22 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
50-46 FWIW
Vogt early, Vogt often.
by Brickhaus on May 30, 2009 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
48-47 Cintron. Angulo did a better job getting in on Cintron, but the question is this was Kermit taking a round off or fading.
by schraubd on May 30, 2009 10:22 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Round #7 underway? Papa are you lost?
Seattle Seahawks: We've got Brian Russell and TWO kickers!
by SSreporters on May 30, 2009 10:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
heh… I’ve got Lederman’s card. Angulo has landed 2 or 3 good punches in 1 and 2 but lost the other 2:30 of each round
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on May 30, 2009 10:24 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
right hand over the top
is landing over and over and over
by sonofapsycho on May 30, 2009 10:24 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
58-56 Cintron
Seattle Seahawks: We've got Brian Russell and TWO kickers!
by SSreporters on May 30, 2009 10:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
When is the next Fight Night?
Seattle Seahawks: We've got Brian Russell and TWO kickers!
by SSreporters on May 30, 2009 10:26 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Cotto-Mosley for sure
Maybe the Quintana FNF.
by SC on May 30, 2009 10:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
er Cotto-Clottey
Wishful thinking? Drunkenness? You pick.
by SC on May 30, 2009 10:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hmmm...that was a good fight so I guess we could RBR a classic. ;-)
Seattle Seahawks: We've got Brian Russell and TWO kickers!
by SSreporters on May 30, 2009 10:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Angulo-Cintron R6
Cintron jabbing again. He kind of lost that a bit last round. Good trade, both land their shots, both not totally on balance. Right hand Kermit as Angulo leans in. That right over the top from Cintron has been money tonight. Max is now saying Angulo looked drained before the fight. Three rounds ago you would’ve thought Angulo was the Second fucking Coming. The HBO bias is real — I don’t make an issue of it a lot, but come on. There are times it’s ridiculous. Angulo is landing very little this round. Cintron has him way off his game.
Cintron 10-9
Cintron 58-56
by SC on May 30, 2009 10:26 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i've been talking about the hbo bias for about 15 years now.
its really nothing new.
by sonofapsycho on May 30, 2009 10:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
58-56 Cintron. He just looks better than Angulo. I’m VERY impressed. And if this is the Cintron we see from here on out, he’s a real factor from 147-154.
by schraubd on May 30, 2009 10:26 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Angulo picked it up for the first minute
But Cintron dominated the rest of the round. 60-55 Cintron. I’m really surprised at how good Cintron has looked.
Vogt early, Vogt often.
by Brickhaus on May 30, 2009 10:26 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Second time Ref warns Cintron for a "low blow" on the belt
Vogt early, Vogt often.
by Brickhaus on May 30, 2009 10:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Holy shit, Angulo moved his head
Vogt early, Vogt often.
by Brickhaus on May 30, 2009 10:28 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Angulo’s whining, which means he’s rattled.
by schraubd on May 30, 2009 10:28 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I never like to say Lennox is right
But Kermit is repeatedly doing the Jersey Joe shoulder weave…
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on May 30, 2009 10:28 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Angulo needs to do a much better job of cutting off the ring
Vogt early, Vogt often.
by Brickhaus on May 30, 2009 10:29 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
68-65 Cintron.
Seattle Seahawks: We've got Brian Russell and TWO kickers!
by SSreporters on May 30, 2009 10:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Joe Buck Live
(shoots self)
Seattle Seahawks: We've got Brian Russell and TWO kickers!
by SSreporters on May 30, 2009 10:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
68-65 Cintron. A couple moments of hope if you’re a Angulo backer (to borrow from Teddy Atlas), but overall I still think Cintron took it.
by schraubd on May 30, 2009 10:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Cintron-Angulo R7
Man Cintron is dominating this fight at this point. He keeps getting warned for low blows that I just do not think are low. Tellis is…not a very good ref lately. He’s been lame. Cintron is owning the ring. Controlling distance, and now he’s got Angulo going southpaw as a possible prayer to find a heavy shot or two. The right jab does seem to be working a bit, but Cintron is outlanding him double now. Angulo putting on the ropes and throwing! Cintron moves out after ducking really well. Wow, Cintron was even scoring there. This is THE BEST I’ve ever seen from Kermit Cintron. Consider me impressed.
Cintron 10-9
Cintron 68-65
by SC on May 30, 2009 10:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Angulo would do well to stay southpaw the rest of the fight if he feels comfortable doing it
Martinez’s southpaw stance seemed to really confuse Cintron, and he had his best 30 seconds of the fight when he turned southpaw.
Anyway, still a Cintron round, though Angulo came close to stealing it.
70-64 Cintron
Vogt early, Vogt often.
by Brickhaus on May 30, 2009 10:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
7-1 Cintron
But Angulo carried most of the 2nd half of the round. I don’t think giving it to Angulo is out of the question
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on May 30, 2009 10:31 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I honestly think
The reason Cintron looks so good tonight is because Angulo is so easy to hit. Cintron seems to hesitate trying to find a good shot a lot of the time. With Angulo, a good shot is always there, so he throws a lot more punches.
Vogt early, Vogt often.
by Brickhaus on May 30, 2009 10:33 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
But he’s been boxing REALLY well too. The movement to neutralize Angulo’s pressure has been fabulous.
by schraubd on May 30, 2009 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, he's been moving very well
Vogt early, Vogt often.
by Brickhaus on May 30, 2009 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Finally a round
That I can score for Angulo
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on May 30, 2009 10:34 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Cintron is fading a little bit.
77-75 Cintron
Seattle Seahawks: We've got Brian Russell and TWO kickers!
by SSreporters on May 30, 2009 10:34 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Cintron-Angulo R8
Cintron still landing the better shots, even though Angulo is throwing. He’s just not landing the real good shots he usually does. And Cintron’s defense and boxing get credit for that. Ronnie Shields has done a great job. Angulo’s lack of hand speed and defense has killed him tonight.
Angulo takes a moment to get his tape fixed. He’s done better this round and it was close, but I’m leaning Kermit at this point. I think maybe Kermit’s gassing, but I hesitate to say so.
Cintron 10-9
Cintron 78-74
by SC on May 30, 2009 10:34 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
First round I score for Angulo
But you could still score it for Cintron. I don’t think it would be inconcievable to have it scored a Cintron shutout so far.
79-74 Cintron
Vogt early, Vogt often.
by Brickhaus on May 30, 2009 10:35 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
77-75 Cintron. Angulo won that round pretty clearly. And worse, Cintron looked like he was losing a little bit of his poise.
by schraubd on May 30, 2009 10:35 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
6-2
I scored my last round 7-1 for some reason
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on May 30, 2009 10:35 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
back to orthadox style for angulo
and hes getting beat up like he was before he switched.
by sonofapsycho on May 30, 2009 10:36 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Angulo was about to give up his back for that arm triangle and....oh...
Good body shot by Angulo.
Seattle Seahawks: We've got Brian Russell and TWO kickers!
by SSreporters on May 30, 2009 10:36 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
haha
cintron could have locked in a rnc if he wanted to
by sonofapsycho on May 30, 2009 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cintron seems to be running out of juice
He’s not moving anymore, now he’s coming in and clinching
Vogt early, Vogt often.
by Brickhaus on May 30, 2009 10:37 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Cintron is Jermain Taylor with punching power
Just fades in a fight he’s winning in the later rounds.
86-85 Cintron
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by SSreporters on May 30, 2009 10:38 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Getting really sloppy now
He may have punched himself out a bit. Angulo didn’t do anything that great, but it was the first truly clear round for Angulo.
88-84 Cintron
Vogt early, Vogt often.
by Brickhaus on May 30, 2009 10:38 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I think Cintron did just enough to win that round, but he clearly is looking faded, and Angulo is picking it up.
87-84 Cintron.
by schraubd on May 30, 2009 10:38 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
cintron again
Cintron took rd. 5 and rd 8 off. Other than that he’s won every round.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on May 30, 2009 10:39 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Urango looks like an ox
Vogt early, Vogt often.
by Brickhaus on May 30, 2009 10:39 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Cintron-Angulo R9
Both guys seem to be tiring a bit. Cintron’s jab, even when it’s not totally effective, is making a difference. Nice left hook from Kermit near the end of the round. This has been a good fight and I’m probably not doing it justice, but well, Maker’s Mark. Buffalo Trace.
Angulo 10-9, Cintron feels like he’s fading out and it’s getting sloppy
Cintron 87-84
by SC on May 30, 2009 10:39 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Cintron looks much fresher to start this round
But he’s still clinching. Not a great sign.
Vogt early, Vogt often.
by Brickhaus on May 30, 2009 10:40 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
angulo
looks for help from the ref much like his hero jcc did his whole career.
by sonofapsycho on May 30, 2009 10:42 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Cintron's left eye is starting to close shut
Vogt early, Vogt often.
by Brickhaus on May 30, 2009 10:42 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
97-93. Another Cintron round that it looked like he just managed to keep together.
by schraubd on May 30, 2009 10:42 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
97-93 Cintron, not that there was any doubt.
by schraubd on May 30, 2009 10:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good round
Both guys gave it their all that one. I do think Cintron took it based on landing the cleaner punches and better ring generalship.
98-93 Cintron
Vogt early, Vogt often.
by Brickhaus on May 30, 2009 10:43 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Tempted to give it to Cintron...and I will.
96-94 Cintron.
Seattle Seahawks: We've got Brian Russell and TWO kickers!
by SSreporters on May 30, 2009 10:43 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Cintron-Angulo R10
Right hand over the top there two more times for Cintron. Right from Cintron. Cintron still going to the jab even though it’s much lazier than usual. Angulo wins a close round again. Cintron’s getting hurt in there. Gradually, but surely.
Angulo 10-9
Cintron 96-94
I’ve still been far more impressed with Kermit than I have Angulo.
by SC on May 30, 2009 10:43 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I think Cintron is controlling the early action of each round
but it takes more out of you to go backwards… He should drive Angulo into the ropes and infight him
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on May 30, 2009 10:43 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i totally missed this was a 12 rounder
what welfare title is on the line? i missed it.
by sonofapsycho on May 30, 2009 10:43 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I think it's just a contractual 12-rounder
Vogt early, Vogt often.
by Brickhaus on May 30, 2009 10:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Angulo is just dining on those jabs
I don't hate Kendall like everybody else, I'm a non-conformist like that.
by Dikembe Meiztombo on May 30, 2009 10:46 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Angulo-Cintron R11
Cintron throwing the big right again after his jabs. Now he purposely ties up out of nowhere. He’s gassing out. Angulo throws a right that misses. Cintron very much slowing. This is getting closer as it goes along. Kermit’s stock has raised either way, but it’s up for grabs IMO.
Angulo 10-9
Cintron 105-104
by SC on May 30, 2009 10:47 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
107-102 Cintron. Another Cintron round, and better than he’s looked in quite awhile.
by schraubd on May 30, 2009 10:47 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I think Angulo took that round narrowly
Angulo’s corner wants him to go for the KO. On my scorecard, he needs it.
107-103 Cintron
Vogt early, Vogt often.
by Brickhaus on May 30, 2009 10:47 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
LMAO
each rounds are scored individually. fascinating.
thanks for the information there papa.
by sonofapsycho on May 30, 2009 10:47 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Cintron is winning this in a rout
Though many of the rounds look closer than they are because Angulo walks through big punches. Librado Andrade effect is in action
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on May 30, 2009 10:47 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Angulo wins that round to me...barely.
105-104 Cintron
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by SSreporters on May 30, 2009 10:47 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Cintron warned for holding
No more holding in the last minute
Vogt early, Vogt often.
by Brickhaus on May 30, 2009 10:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Angulo-Cintron R12
Cintron jabbing to start. I think he feels he’s ahead and if all of us are right, he is. He can box this round like he did earlier perhaps. Angulo coming out to throw. Angulo tied up by Cintron again. Left hook by Angulo. Uppercut by Cintron skims Angulo, who’s still throwing. Half the round over.
Cintron drilled with a right. Right to the body by Angulo. Cintron purposely holding and Tellis tells him next time it’s a point. Angulo winning the round with 40 seconds left. Cintron with a right, but the left is low. Cintron is hurt maybe! But he throws the jabs and a big right! Angulo with a right! RIGHT BY CINTRON! Great closing battle! Left from Cintron! Right Cintron! Oh what a fight we got out of this one. Damn good.
Angulo 10-9
114-114
by SC on May 30, 2009 10:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Great round!
I have it even.
114-114
In other words: I want a rematch.
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by SSreporters on May 30, 2009 10:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Angulo took it over at the end, but it doesn’t matter on my card. 116-112, Cintron.
by schraubd on May 30, 2009 10:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Good 12th round
Gave the 12th to Cintron again. It was ugly, but he’s the one who landed the clean punches there.
117-112 Cintron
Vogt early, Vogt often.
by Brickhaus on May 30, 2009 10:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I have Cintron in a blowout
9-3. Compubox will show Cintron badly outlanded him I think.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on May 30, 2009 10:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Big ups to Kermit Cintron from me. Fought better than I’ve ever seen, boxed pretty well, moved well, ate some good shots, and proved out some toughness I didn’t think he had. Good for him. If he wins this fight, I have no problem with it.
by SC on May 30, 2009 10:52 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I almost wouldn'
Vogt early, Vogt often.
by Brickhaus on May 30, 2009 10:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm with Brick
Though I gave Angulo the 12th based only on Cintron holding. He did land the only clean punches
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on May 30, 2009 10:52 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I have it a tie as well.
Boxing writer: "Iran, what are you going to do when you retire?"
Iran Barkley: "Rob your house"
by Matt Miller on May 30, 2009 10:52 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
7-5 or even 8-4 for cintron
he just boxed his ears off the whole time.
looked tired and sloppy at the end but still landed his punches and better shots through the late rounds.
by sonofapsycho on May 30, 2009 10:52 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
116-112 for all
All for Cintron.
Vogt early, Vogt often.
by Brickhaus on May 30, 2009 10:53 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Cintron wins
Seattle Seahawks: We've got Brian Russell and TWO kickers!
by SSreporters on May 30, 2009 10:53 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
ANGULO-CINTRON OFFICIAL SCORES
116-112
116-112
116-112
KERMIT CINTRON BY UNANIMOUS DECISION
Good for you, Kermit. Angulo agrees with the decision. Good fight by Cintron.
by SC on May 30, 2009 10:53 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
It was a great fight for Cintron… he needed the W perhaps more than anyone fighting this summer.
"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."
by Zocalo on May 30, 2009 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Max looks so dissappointed
Sorry your boy lost Max.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on May 30, 2009 10:53 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Excellent win for Cintron. I feel really good for him (even though I predicted an AA KO) — this was win he badly needed.
by schraubd on May 30, 2009 10:53 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
And I like Max too
But he looks sooooo pooty right now
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on May 30, 2009 10:54 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I think this does answer a big question though
Angulo will never be a top tier fighter. He’s just not quick enough.
Vogt early, Vogt often.
by Brickhaus on May 30, 2009 10:54 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
He was way too slow this fight… JCC never looked this slow in respect to his peers.
"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."
by Zocalo on May 30, 2009 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
pretty much. he’s done
The Dude Abides
by battle axe of doom on May 31, 2009 2:09 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i thought
it was a real good fight by cintron. best ive ever seen of him
"After this, I'm gonna kick Bob Arum's ass."
-George Lopez
by thebitb on May 30, 2009 10:54 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
yeah, he did good, but i still think he showed some of the stuff that holds him back from being a better fighter
by keyz on May 30, 2009 10:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Kermits hands are probably too slow to ever really
be a very top tier guy too. He would be a legend in MMA
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on May 30, 2009 10:54 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
he would certainly be better than someone like marcus davis
by sonofapsycho on May 30, 2009 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Check out Davis' boxrec
and the competition he faced and the competition they faced… Its an absolute joke for a guy that claims a 17-1 record or whatever it is he claims
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on May 30, 2009 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol i know
all mma guys who were boxers in their past lives were pretty horrid pro boxers.
kj noons keeps trying to box and is losing 8 round fights in the boonies.
by sonofapsycho on May 30, 2009 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think in some cases it’s a focus thing too. If you don’t fully train for one or the other you just won’t be that good. Noons has nice hands, but whatever. So do lots of guys.
by SC on May 30, 2009 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
But on the other hand
The one guy I can think of who did it the other way around is probably a better boxer than he was an MMA guy.
Vogt early, Vogt often.
by Brickhaus on May 30, 2009 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
How is he allowed to fight 8 rounders?
"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."
by Zocalo on May 30, 2009 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's boxed for a while
He’s not a complete noob
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on May 30, 2009 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
other than Arlovski who could be very good if not for his glass chin
KJ is probably the best too… Well Gomi and Andre Dida if they had a boxing coach to teach them to throw straight punches as well as Rampage could maybe be midtier.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on May 30, 2009 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
In terms of pure talent
Gomi and Dida have the most natural talent as they both have dynamite in their hands. Dida almost flash KO’d Buakaw Por Pramuk in a kickboxing match he was set up to get destroyed in. After that first round though he got demolished because of looping technique
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on May 30, 2009 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The best guy Davis ever beat
Was Tommy Attardo and he finished his career with a losing record.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on May 30, 2009 11:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Compubox
Angulo – 277/957, 29%
Cintron – 316/1094, 29%
Vogt early, Vogt often.
by Brickhaus on May 30, 2009 10:55 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Magic up by 19.
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by SSreporters on May 30, 2009 10:55 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Cleveland's centers are just about the worst in the league.
They’re getting manhandled by Howard.
Seattle Seahawks: We've got Brian Russell and TWO kickers!
by SSreporters on May 30, 2009 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mark it down
May 30th, 2009 – Lebron James makes up his mind to get the hell out of Cleveland.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on May 30, 2009 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I disagree
May 30th 2009 – Get Chris Bosh and dump Anderson Varejao.
Seattle Seahawks: We've got Brian Russell and TWO kickers!
by SSreporters on May 30, 2009 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Carlos Boozer would get skinned alive if soembody saw him walking the streets of Cleveland at night now. His middle of the night exit from Cleveland is all that stands between them and 2 or 3 titles
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on May 30, 2009 11:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
awesomeness
magic are going to upset the lakers too.
by sonofapsycho on May 30, 2009 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well Cintron was ungodly good given how I gave him no chance… much respect. I was wrong about him.
"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."
by Zocalo on May 30, 2009 10:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Cintron - Fatton @ 147. Tell me why not?
I don't hate Kendall like everybody else, I'm a non-conformist like that.
by Dikembe Meiztombo on May 30, 2009 11:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Hatton would get KO’ed within 6 rounds at 147 vs anyone who can carry a punch.
"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."
by Zocalo on May 30, 2009 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can imagine the horrible KO
If Cintron caught him jumping in with some of the right hands he hit Angulo with
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on May 30, 2009 11:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gotta come up with something better than that.
I don't hate Kendall like everybody else, I'm a non-conformist like that.
by Dikembe Meiztombo on May 30, 2009 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No I don’t. Hatton sucks at 147. It’s a crap fight. Cintron would knock his head off if he could make 147. A guy with a 74" reach is going to murder Hatton at 147.
by SC on May 30, 2009 11:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
74" reach
Much better reasoning
I don't hate Kendall like everybody else, I'm a non-conformist like that.
by Dikembe Meiztombo on May 30, 2009 11:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
for Hatton
If Witter beats Alexander, I really support Hatton-Witter finally coming off.
by SC on May 30, 2009 11:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cintron is just a freaking huge welterweight compared to Hatton… and it doesn’t help that he doesn’t protect himself.
"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."
by Zocalo on May 30, 2009 11:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
dont think cintron is getting back down to 147.
tonight was the first night he didn’t look like he need a blood transfusion.
by sonofapsycho on May 30, 2009 11:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Floyd Mayweather....who completed his Brett Favre retirement.
Seattle Seahawks: We've got Brian Russell and TWO kickers!
by SSreporters on May 30, 2009 11:01 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Juan Urango
Goes to 11
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on May 30, 2009 11:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Think Urango's religious?
Says “I love you God” on his warmups, and a big red cross on his whole team.
Vogt early, Vogt often.
by Brickhaus on May 30, 2009 11:07 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i think the back of his jacket thing reads “God wants you”
by keyz on May 30, 2009 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe
My Spanish is rusty
Vogt early, Vogt often.
by Brickhaus on May 30, 2009 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jesus
Does the guy fight out of a mission?
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on May 30, 2009 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I didnt see the irony
of how I took the lords name in vain there
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on May 30, 2009 11:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol
No colombian flag, a flag of a cross instead.
Vogt early, Vogt often.
by Brickhaus on May 30, 2009 11:07 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
He should do what Kimo did
back at like UFC 6 or 7. And carry a lifesize cross to the ring on his back
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on May 30, 2009 11:08 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
urango looks flabby at 147
kidding
by sonofapsycho on May 30, 2009 11:08 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm assuming
The Red Wings beat the Penguins tonight… If anybody saw the end of the game
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on May 30, 2009 11:09 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Ok i'm a retard
I’m on the internet. I checked for myself
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on May 30, 2009 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Who is this ref?
Vogt early, Vogt often.
by Brickhaus on May 30, 2009 11:11 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Tommy Cimmons!
He’s gonna be like, “Awright, y’all, have a good clean fight.”
by SC on May 30, 2009 11:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I love the accent. That is PANHANDLE, Florida, folks.
by schraubd on May 30, 2009 11:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
hell yeah
Florida doesn’t get enough credit for being redneck as hell. (I’m not bashing, either. I’m pretty redneck.)
by SC on May 30, 2009 11:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Only parts of Florida
Where I’m from was like half and half
Vogt early, Vogt often.
by Brickhaus on May 30, 2009 11:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes
North Florida is redneck as hell… I know a guy from Lake City, Fl… He’s the most hillbilly dude i’ve ever met. Another guy from Jacksonville also extremely redneck
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on May 30, 2009 11:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
alabama woorley
rawrrr
any true romance fans here?
by sonofapsycho on May 30, 2009 11:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
“These people paid to watch you fight, so KEEP IT CLEAN.”
by schraubd on May 30, 2009 11:13 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
...
Urango almost looks like a young tiny Iron Mike to me
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on May 30, 2009 11:13 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Berto looks teriffic.
I don't hate Kendall like everybody else, I'm a non-conformist like that.
by Dikembe Meiztombo on May 30, 2009 11:14 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Urango is designed to make Berto look terrific
Until Urango catches him with a huge punch that knocks him out.
Vogt early, Vogt often.
by Brickhaus on May 30, 2009 11:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
agreed.
I think Berto will win the UD… Though Urango might drop him in the middle rounds
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on May 30, 2009 11:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I had no idea he was so massive
I don't hate Kendall like everybody else, I'm a non-conformist like that.
by Dikembe Meiztombo on May 30, 2009 11:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Berto-Urango R1
Berto’s speed is evident within 20 seconds. Urango is so fun, like a video game fighter. He looks massively wide at 147, same as 140. Berto landing a jab almost at will as Urango bobs around. Right hand Berto. And another. So far he’s just boxing and staying back while Urango postures. Berto throwing big shots, Urango gets him in close, Berto throws a big uppercut and they collide heads. Slow lead left from Urango isn’t even close to landing. Easy round for Andre.
Berto 10-9
by SC on May 30, 2009 11:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Berto 10-9, but an ugly round. If Berto decides to use Hatton’s hit-and-hold as the template to beat Urango….
by schraubd on May 30, 2009 11:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
10-9 Berto
Seattle Seahawks: We've got Brian Russell and TWO kickers!
by SSreporters on May 30, 2009 11:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
ok gonna eat pizza and enjoy a fight
That holds absolutely no significance for me
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on May 30, 2009 11:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
southpaws
lead with their face
its not rocket science. lennox and max are sounding like this is the first time this has ever happened.
by sonofapsycho on May 30, 2009 11:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
This ref talks like my 7th grade science teacher
Vogt early, Vogt often.
by Brickhaus on May 30, 2009 11:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I’m amazed anyone with that accent knows science.
by schraubd on May 30, 2009 11:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Probably the favorite teacher I had until at least 11th grade
Vogt early, Vogt often.
by Brickhaus on May 30, 2009 11:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Berto-Urango R2
Berto throwing a wicked right, dancing some to start the round. Two rights Berto, but he’s caught off balance and a glancing left staggers him a bit. One of Urango’s leaping power shots might’ve been perfect there. Big right Berto! Nothing for a response from Urango. Probably didn’t land totally clean, either, but I don’t think Berto — the slightly bigger man — can dent Urango. Hatton couldn’t come close at 140. Urango is finding himself too close on his lunges.
Berto 10-9
Berto 20-18
by SC on May 30, 2009 11:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
urango
looks like allistair overeem.
just friggin massive.
by sonofapsycho on May 30, 2009 11:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Ugly 2 rounds
20-18 Berto
Seattle Seahawks: We've got Brian Russell and TWO kickers!
by SSreporters on May 30, 2009 11:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
A boring fight is a winning fight for Berto
An exciting fight means Urango wins.
Vogt early, Vogt often.
by Brickhaus on May 30, 2009 11:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol
urango is bald bull charging him.
by sonofapsycho on May 30, 2009 11:23 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Hehehe…. I love punch out.
"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."
by Zocalo on May 30, 2009 11:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I thought there was a step on the foot there
Vogt early, Vogt often.
by Brickhaus on May 30, 2009 11:24 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Berto wants to touch gloves, Urango throws a full jab at it.
by schraubd on May 30, 2009 11:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
The way he fell didn't look like a KD
Vogt early, Vogt often.
by Brickhaus on May 30, 2009 11:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
It looked like a punchout knockdown. The backpedaling legs to the exaggerated fall….
by schraubd on May 30, 2009 11:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It looked like he got punched when Berto was stepping on his foot
Vogt early, Vogt often.
by Brickhaus on May 30, 2009 11:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This punch and hug crap should be left to the heavyweights.
30-27 Berto
Seattle Seahawks: We've got Brian Russell and TWO kickers!
by SSreporters on May 30, 2009 11:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Berto-Urango R3
Urango cannot beat Berto without a KO, which we all knew, really, but DOWN GOES URANGO! Right hand shot did it. That was mid-sentence, so sorry. Might have had a foot step too. But it’s scored a knockdown. Andre is really doing well to show some discipline. A firefight with Urango is the last thing he wants, and he appears to know it.
Berto 10-8
Berto 30-26
by SC on May 30, 2009 11:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Punching and hugging by Berto makes me annoyed.
Seattle Seahawks: We've got Brian Russell and TWO kickers!
by SSreporters on May 30, 2009 11:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
This is the type of round that Urango wants.
by schraubd on May 30, 2009 11:29 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Urango’s best round, because he made it messy. 10-9 Urango, 39-37 Berto
by schraubd on May 30, 2009 11:29 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Berto-Urango R4
That lunging uppercut by Berto almost scores big. Urango is throwing and HERE WE GO a little over halfway in. Urango might’ve gottne the better of that exchange, but I’m not sure. Nice right by Berto. Urango gets him off balance again. This is getting good. Left hand Berto clips Urango, who is just too slow. Good round. Good card so far.
Berto 10-9
Berto 40-36
This round leaned to what Urango wants though.
by SC on May 30, 2009 11:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
How the hell has Berto thrown only 18 more punches than urango?
Vogt early, Vogt often.
by Brickhaus on May 30, 2009 11:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
urango
throwing more and landing more what he need to do of course.
urangos head movement is totally gone and hes walking into shots though
by sonofapsycho on May 30, 2009 11:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
These announcers have got a Berto bias going on
Hey a fight broke out in round 4.
40-36 Berto
Seattle Seahawks: We've got Brian Russell and TWO kickers!
by SSreporters on May 30, 2009 11:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Urango should have been going to the body since round 1
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on May 30, 2009 11:32 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Urango never really goes for the body
Vogt early, Vogt often.
by Brickhaus on May 30, 2009 11:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
somebody needs to tell him
next time you’re fighting somebody that fast… It pays to spend the first 4 rounds beating their body up to slow their movement
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on May 30, 2009 11:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Berto-Urango R5
Berto with a great left early in the round. Urango is all guts and muscle. That’s it. I love watching the guy. Berto is able to hide his technical flaws against Urango. Left hook and a right by Berto. I like both of these guys but this is tailor-made for Berto.
Berto 10-9
Berto 50-45
by SC on May 30, 2009 11:33 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I like them both too, but this is a step down in competition for Berto. Totally different styles, but Urango simply isn’t as good as Collazo is.
by schraubd on May 30, 2009 11:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Berto round, but Urango has at least made it into the type of fight he can be effective in.
49-46 Berto
by schraubd on May 30, 2009 11:33 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
50-45 Berto
Seattle Seahawks: We've got Brian Russell and TWO kickers!
by SSreporters on May 30, 2009 11:34 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
max just might as well get his kneepads ready
i dont think i gave my gf more compliments in my life than he just did berto
by sonofapsycho on May 30, 2009 11:37 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Max? Kneepads? Never.
He’d much rather prove his love by doing it without any artificial assistance
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on May 30, 2009 11:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Berto-Urango R6
Urango starting to press to the body more. Lennox has been solid tonight. He notes that Urango just can’t land on Berto. He can’t do it unless he slows Berto down. Not rocket science, but a step up for Lennox, so yay! Firefight now! Urango landing some, and Berto lands back. Left hand Urango appears to sting Berto at the bell.
Berto 10-9
Berto 60-54
by SC on May 30, 2009 11:38 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
60-54 Berto
Seattle Seahawks: We've got Brian Russell and TWO kickers!
by SSreporters on May 30, 2009 11:39 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
this is the time
where urango is going to win some rounds and bust him up some.
should be getting more interesting.
maybe
by sonofapsycho on May 30, 2009 11:40 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I guess we have proof...
147 is undoubtedly the best division in the sport. A 140 legit titlist is getting demolished by an Alphabits belt holder at 147
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on May 30, 2009 11:40 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
this proves little about 147
It’s a good division, but wildly overrated.
by SC on May 30, 2009 11:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mayweather, Mosley, Plasterhands, Berto, Collazo, Cotto, Clottey, Tall Paul, Quintana… the division is certainly the most top heavy.
This doesn’t include Pacman who can fight there too
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on May 30, 2009 11:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Quintana can't make 147 anymore
Vogt early, Vogt often.
by Brickhaus on May 30, 2009 11:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
147 is good at the top
But has little depth
Vogt early, Vogt often.
by Brickhaus on May 30, 2009 11:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I guess its kinda like the catchweight for big fights.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on May 30, 2009 11:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Berto-Urango R7
Urango catching Berto a little on the ropes and in the corner. If Berto gets lazy he could get in trouble. Quick uppercut by Berto, then he holds. He does hold a lot. That’s slightly less Mosley-ish than his other attributes. Urango is just out of this fight now.
Berto 10-9
Berto 70-63
by SC on May 30, 2009 11:41 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
70-63 and this fight is getting boring
I’ll be 0-2 in picks tonight.
Seattle Seahawks: We've got Brian Russell and TWO kickers!
by SSreporters on May 30, 2009 11:43 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
80-72 Berto
Seattle Seahawks: We've got Brian Russell and TWO kickers!
by SSreporters on May 30, 2009 11:45 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Berto-Urango R8
Berto backing him up and landing power shots halfway into the round. Honestly I’m kinda bored — not bored, but just, y’know, this is exactly what I expected without the firefight I hoped for. Berto’s just beating him on athleticism and natural ability. Urango is doing all he can, and it ain’t much.
Berto 10-9
Berto 80-72
by SC on May 30, 2009 11:46 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
urangos people
should start saying their novinas now.
by sonofapsycho on May 30, 2009 11:47 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm calling it now
Urango KO 12 2:47
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on May 30, 2009 11:48 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
First round for Urango
Vogt early, Vogt often.
by Brickhaus on May 30, 2009 11:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Urango round 10-9, Berto didn’t do ANYTHING. Berto 88-83
by schraubd on May 30, 2009 11:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Berto-Urango R9
Urango cannot do it tonight without a crazy shot. He’s capable of that, maybe, but he also couldn’t one-punch Herman Ngoudjo. He’s so much faster than Urango it’s just a total outclassing. There’s little more to be said.
Berto 10-9
Berto 90-81
by SC on May 30, 2009 11:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
He broke Ngodjo's jaw
He somehow got up and ran the rest of the fight
Vogt early, Vogt often.
by Brickhaus on May 30, 2009 11:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
90-81 Berto
Seattle Seahawks: We've got Brian Russell and TWO kickers!
by SSreporters on May 30, 2009 11:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Berto-Urango R10
More of the same this round. That fast right for Andre has been there all night because Urango just can’t do anything about it.
Berto 10-9
Berto 100-90
by SC on May 30, 2009 11:54 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Urango KO 12 2:47 Body Shot
I can feel it
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on May 30, 2009 11:54 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
max is getting anxious to perform his services to mr berto
by sonofapsycho on May 30, 2009 11:55 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I can almost hear him salivating.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on May 30, 2009 11:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
100-90
Seattle Seahawks: We've got Brian Russell and TWO kickers!
by SSreporters on May 30, 2009 11:55 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Berto needs to quit drooling
Vogt early, Vogt often.
by Brickhaus on May 30, 2009 11:56 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Sugar Ray Leonard?
WTF Max. I’d NEVER heard that comp until you just invented it. Meldrick Taylor I’ve heard because of his handspeed.
Vogt early, Vogt often.
by Brickhaus on May 30, 2009 11:57 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
right?
I’ve heard lots of Mosley and Jones, some Taylor, never Leonard. Never.
by SC on May 30, 2009 11:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Better than SR!
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on May 30, 2009 11:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Berto-Urango R11
Left hand Urango, Berto ties up as he’s stuck in the corner. And Berto turns out of it and moments later lands an uppercut. I know it takes work to make a fight this easy, but relatively speaking, Berto hasn’t had to work too hard tonight.
Berto 10-9
Berto 110-99
by SC on May 30, 2009 11:58 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
He wasn't winking at you...
We know he was winking at Max
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on May 30, 2009 11:58 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
oh no he didn't
just compare berto to meldrick taylor.
that just pissed everyone in philly off
by sonofapsycho on May 30, 2009 11:58 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
110-99
Max Kellerman should do a strip tease.
Seattle Seahawks: We've got Brian Russell and TWO kickers!
by SSreporters on May 30, 2009 11:58 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Take a point already Tommy. It won’t effect the outcome, but its long overdue.
Berto 10-9, Berto 108-101
by schraubd on May 30, 2009 11:58 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
bertos talking
is getting ridiculous.
he needs to show some class and shut the fuck up
by sonofapsycho on May 31, 2009 12:00 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
120-108
I won’t wait for the fight to end.
Seattle Seahawks: We've got Brian Russell and TWO kickers!
by SSreporters on May 31, 2009 12:01 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Here comes the Urango body shot KO
Just another 20 seconds
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on May 31, 2009 12:01 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
wtf...
Come on juan
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on May 31, 2009 12:02 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Berto-Urango R12
Max is def. in love with Berto. Crazy in love. Berto still has a little to prove. Not a lot, just a little. But it’s time to just get it going. He’s either going to make it at 147 or not. Good performance by Andre, but in a way a gimme fight. Urango did what he could, but it wasn’t close to enough.
Berto 10-9
Berto 120-108
by SC on May 31, 2009 12:02 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
The dude in the background
needs to STFU with that and still crap
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on May 31, 2009 12:03 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Urango 10-9, Berto 117-111. And I was kind to Urango, but there were rounds which Berto just didn’t do much Urango was a successful as a mauler.
by schraubd on May 31, 2009 12:02 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
They need to shut up with the "AND STILL"
Annoying as hell
Vogt early, Vogt often.
by Brickhaus on May 31, 2009 12:03 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
berto
is officially on my shit list.
cocky little shit he’s becoming.
by sonofapsycho on May 31, 2009 12:03 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
he’s always been a cocky asshole, main reason why i don’t like him
The Dude Abides
by battle axe of doom on May 31, 2009 2:06 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Man I wish Berto-Cotto would get signed in this lifetime
by keyz on May 31, 2009 12:04 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
time for me to go deposit this fights brother
in my toilet
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on May 31, 2009 12:05 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I have very little desire to watch more of Berto
Vogt early, Vogt often.
by Brickhaus on May 31, 2009 12:06 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Hey, two decent fights. Cintron really impressed the hell out of me tonight. He looked worlds better than he did against Martinez. Mostly very focused and controlled. Alright, Kerm!
I wish they didn’t harp so much on Berto’s “marketability”…. Hey HBO, he is your fighter! Besides, Urango has a head made of cast iron. Berto gave it a shot early on with those counter right uppercut, but then played it pretty safe. The holding was plenty annoying, though.
"This fight'll be the nastiest thing you'll ever see. I been sober for six weeks, and that makes me vicious."
-- Randall 'Tex' Cobb
by jrok on May 31, 2009 12:07 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I knew it was too early to give up on Kermit
Though as I’ve said a million times i’d be more than happy to see him go to MMA where he would have an unmatched pedigree in his boxing and a competitive level of wrestling… He can still do fairly well in the boxing world.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on May 31, 2009 12:24 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Speaking of Kellerman's services
Looks like he has a cold sore
Vogt early, Vogt often.
by Brickhaus on May 31, 2009 12:09 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
the story of the lip scar
I don’t know if everyone knows the story, but Max bit through the cord of a family clock and the current fused his lips together. The surgery to repair it left the scars he has now.
A columnist joked it was the only time he had his mouth shut in a piece he did on Max when he got the HBO job.
Weird accident.
by missmanners on May 31, 2009 3:51 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Woah… that is an interesting tidbit… thanks for sharing.
"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."
by Zocalo on May 31, 2009 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
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