Valero still itching for fight with Pacquiao, says he has an agreement
by Scott Christ on May 6, 2009 3:40 PM EDT
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Edwin Valero, who moved up to lightweight and brutalized Antonio Pitalua in two rounds, says he has an agreement with promoter Bob Arum to fight Manny Pacquiao, though he doesn't expect it to be exercised soon:
"My fight with Manny Pacquiao is signed. It was one of the conditions that I gave my manager, Jose Castillo, for me to sign with Bob Arum. This is something that he has not revealed to the press because the fight is not mandatory, in case Pacquiao walks away. But that is the only way to avoid the fight, if he leaves boxing. So I am relaxed and working to build my name for my opportunity. It was something that was spoken about with Pacquiao and he said yes. That was in January."
Oh, good ol' Bob Arum. With no date, no mandatory, no nothin', Arum signed Valero with a condition he may as well have been making up. Pretty smooth, Bob.
Still, if Valero keeps knocking guys out, some real intrigue could be there for this one. As he said, he has to become a name, and hope Pacquiao goes on winning. Then you're looking at what could be a truly explosive matchup.
Also, if Manny agreed, I'm guessing Manny will honor it. He has yet to back down from a challenge, I don't see him starting now.
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Bob Arum is a Jewish lawyer
There might be something in the contract that says something about Pacquaio, but I can pretty much guarantee you it’s not a binding agreement that Pacquiao needs to fight him. First off, that would violate the constitution. At most, there’s something in there that says the contract terminates if he hasn’t fought Pac by a given point in time. More likely, there’s something that just says he’ll fight Pac at some point to be agreed upon, or that Arum will use best efforts to make a fight between the two of them.
Vogt early, Vogt often.
Would Valero have to move up to make the fight?
I’m not sure that Manny will move back down to below 140, to be honest.
It would be a good fight to make in a couple of years, when Valero is at his peak. Manny would simply chew him up now, I think.
Boxing is the beginning of all sports. I'm willing to bet that the first sport was a man against another man in a fight. (Omar Epps)
I personally think Manny would be fine moving back down at least to 135. He’s still young enough, and he’s only fought three fights above 130. I don’t think he’s anxious to fight “above” 140 necessarily, but we will see I guess. I mean he’s definitely surprised us before.
"This fight'll be the nastiest thing you'll ever see. I been sober for six weeks, and that makes me vicious."
-- Randall 'Tex' Cobb
He had to do a last minute hard cut of 2 pounds to make 135 for the Diaz fight
He said hes never fighting that low again.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on May 6, 2009 7:39 PM EDT up reply actions
And Bob Arum said Valero could fight Manny
And Evander Holyfield swore he would retire as soon as he got the chance to fight Mike Tyson.
Look I’m not saying he looks unnatural at 140… he doesn’t! But its rare a 30-year old man can go from being able to make 130 to not being able to make 135 in the space of one fight. Most likely, Camp Pacquiao overestimated a little bit when they were moving the chains, and had to do a quick crash. It happens.
I think Manny will go wherever the biggest fight is, and 135 is very live. Roach has already confirmed they don’t want to go too far above 140. To get Floyd Mayweather, they would probably look for a catchweight ,similar to Marquez.
On the other hand, if Marquez is able to get past Mayweather, he and Manny would almost certainly have their third duel be a 140 Championship fight. And if Marquez can beat Floyd at 143-4 without taking a lot of leather, he’d have a very good chance of beating Manny down at 140.
"This fight'll be the nastiest thing you'll ever see. I been sober for six weeks, and that makes me vicious."
-- Randall 'Tex' Cobb
He’s said he’s never going back below 140.
by Scott Christ on May 6, 2009 11:05 PM EDT up reply actions
If Valero fights Pacquiao holding his chin how he did against Pitalua …
… with Pacquiao’s power? His head is going to end up in the third row.
It’s going to be just a decapitated body with a really ugly tattoo on its chest stumbling around the ring.
Although detractors decry (MMA) as a brutal, bloody form of human cockfighting, aficionados know it is a brutal, bloody, totally fucking awesome form of human cockfighting. -The Onion
by The Kittitas Kid on May 6, 2009 5:40 PM EDT reply actions
Not so fast, Edwin
Isn’t Manny planning on running for president in the P.I. next year?
That would give him 2, maybe 3 more fights left:
- Mayweather (definitely)
- Cotto (likely)
- Mosley (maybe)
- Marquez (hopefully)
- Valero?
I don’t know why Pac would fight Valero for another couple of years. Valero is dangerous as hell. Sure, Manny could KO him, but I think Valero has the fire to KO Pac also.
I’m sure Brick is right on the K thing though, Arum probably has a ‘good faith’ requirement to try to make the fight happen. He can pick up the phone a couple times and satisfy that.
So Valero has a "deal"
where pac can fight him or walk away. Just like he could have done with no contract at all. facepalm… how many years did you sign for LOL.
It's not the size of the dog... It's whats in the fight of Bernard Hopkins! -BHOP
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