Was David Haye's injury fabricated?
by Brickhaus on Jun 25, 2009 8:23 AM EDT
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As you may know, UK sports channel Setanta officially went out of business earlier in the week. Setanta was the network that had a contract with Frank Warren, among others, and thus Setanta going out of business leaves a huge hole in televised boxing coverage. But it may have left an even bigger hole in David Haye's pocket. Setanta was set to pay big bucks for the failed David Haye-Wladimir Klitschko matchup, and that was a large chunk of the money that David Haye was bringing to the table.
Now, Frank Warren, formerly David Haye's promoter, is claiming that David Haye wasn't actually injured at all, and that he pulled out of his fight because he wouldn't be making enough money without Setanta's backing. According to Warren, Haye asked Setanta to put down the money for the fight up front, and when they failed to do so, he pulled out of the match, knowing that bankruptcy was imminent. How exactly Warren has this information, I don't know, but it makes sense. Haye still hasn't officially released any doctor's report, nor has he had a doctor give a public report on his behalf. If his contract was done in a way so that Haye would get the UK money and Wladimir would get the German money, then Setanta's failure would have left him fighting for peanuts.
Of course, this has longer term ramifications than just canceling the Klitschko fight. Haye had a contract with Setanta generally, and the other UK channel that televises a significant amount of boxing, Sky Sports, has an exclusive contract with Mick Hennessy. With Vitali Klitschko now tied up in a fight with Nicolai Valuev, and Wladimir's mandatory against Povetkin due, Haye will need to find some other way to make money. He has been hoping to fight one of the Klitschkos, in no small part because they're the cash cows of the division, and because Haye is a threat to get knocked out by any big puncher out there.
Without Setanta, Haye will probably need HBO's backing in order to make significant coin on a fight. HBO, on the other hand, seems to have placed their chips on Cristobal Arreola. Haye-Arreola could be an explosive matchup, a true 50/50 fight between two aggressive offensive fighters. I'll stop short of saying that it would be a classic heavyweight fight, just because it's unlikely it would make it past 6 rounds, but it's almost certainly the best heavyweight fight that could be made right now. Note to HBO - make it happen. The ball is in your court.
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This makes perfect sense when you think about it logically.
Haye had a big deal with Sentanta Sports with his promotion and now it went up in smoke.
"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."
Well, it sure does make sense. Win-win-win-win all around.
I think there’s a big difference between who David should fight and who David will fight. He should fight Arreola or Chambers/Dimentrenko. He will fight…. wait for it….
Oleg Maskaev.
"This fight'll be the nastiest thing you'll ever see. I been sober for six weeks, and that makes me vicious."
-- Randall 'Tex' Cobb
That wouldn't shock me
Guaranteed knockout, and it puts him near the top of the pecking order as a mandatory for Vitali.
Bad Left Hook - The SB Nation boxing blog
"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
Though Maskaev might knock him out
Haye should talk to Hasim Rahman first.
Bad Left Hook - The SB Nation boxing blog
"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
Not only wouldn't it shock me
But I truly am convinced this is exactly what will happen. Oleg wasn’t cleared off Vitali’s slate for nothing.
"This fight'll be the nastiest thing you'll ever see. I been sober for six weeks, and that makes me vicious."
-- Randall 'Tex' Cobb
Not surprising...
This does actually make sense Setanta had deals in football(soccer) worth in the region of over a billion dollars and failed to pay them for many months.
It’s obvious the broadcaster was in trouble for a long time.
It’s a sad day for British boxing fans though. American fights are generally not on PPV here in the UK and Setanta was the only place to catch the likes of Cotto, Pacquiao and Mayweather.
Guess its back to torrents for me though with Pacquiaos popularity in the UK maybe we will get that one on PPV.
Brickhaus
You should bold that note part at the end for HBO.
"Penelosa is not human." -Max Kellerman on Gerry Penelosa during the Juan Manuel Lopes-Gerry Penelosa bout.
i hope its arreola solely for the fact that i want to see this bum get KO’d already god dang it
The Dude Abides
by battle axe of doom on Jun 25, 2009 12:48 PM EDT reply actions
trial horse?
I say Haye should fight an actual horse.
by David Fucillo on Jun 25, 2009 12:54 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
McCline?
You really think McCline is a guaranteed KO for Haye? I could see McCline ending the Haye train in the first three rounds just as easily as I could see it going the other way. I’m not sure if Haye could stand up to one of Jameel’s fast starts. If he did he’d surely stop him in the mid rounds, but I certainly wouldn’t guarantee it, or even claim that it is the likely outcome.
Jameel didn’t exactly seem excited to be fighting Arreola, and I don’t know how much “give a shit” he has left in him.
by Scott Christ on Jun 26, 2009 1:55 AM EDT up reply actions
If Haye didn't open his mouth
I’d think a McCline KO would be on his record… However, if Haye did open his big mouth… well lets just say even an old dog ready to be put down can get the spunk to bite one last time if you piss it off enough.
McCline doesn’t have any “give a shit” left after his last go with Peter… Haye just might piss him off enough to care.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Jun 26, 2009 2:06 AM EDT up reply actions
I want him to go after Chris. If he won it would give him HBO backing and would make him the only guy the Klitschko brothers can make real money off.
But it wont happen since if it goes wrong it goes realy wrong and he gets KOed has no backing from anywere and lost his shot at a title.
Id pick Haye to win against Arreola tho
"Good, so it can’t go any deeper." - Arturo Gatti after being told he was cut to the bone
I KNEW Haye was faking...
I didn’t think it was because his entire paycheck was going to vanish into thin air. I don’t like the guy at all but I’m sure not even the Klits wouldn’t hold a grudge against him in this situation.
Arreola vs Haye is definitely the fight to be made
Gimme 1 round!
So, what I've learned from polls...
In terms of popularity,
Manny Pacquiao >>>>>>> Miguel Cotto >> Urbano Antillon > David Haye >>>> Klitschko brothers
Bad Left Hook - The SB Nation boxing blog
"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
To be fair
Those polls probably don’t include England or Germany…or Ukraine and Puerto Rico for that matter. The Klitschkos are actually hugely popular in Germany, and Haye has now basically become the standard bearer for British boxing in the wake of Calzaghe and Hatton. Pacquiao is universally popular, but his hometown fans are aggressive poll-hunters who routinely swarm any poll he’s in… I don’t really trust any of them polls.
"This fight'll be the nastiest thing you'll ever see. I been sober for six weeks, and that makes me vicious."
-- Randall 'Tex' Cobb
ain't Pacquiao's fault his fans care so much
David Haye being the standard-bearer for British boxing puts their global state in a bad spot given that nobody in America knows who he is.
by Scott Christ on Jun 27, 2009 3:55 AM EDT up reply actions
Sometimes I feel like boxing fans are all completely in the dark about when it comes to who else is watching the sport and what they think. I mean, are there really tons of fight fans out there who know who Manny is but don’t know who Haye is? I may not be a huge fan of the Seattle Seahawks, but I know who they are.
"This fight'll be the nastiest thing you'll ever see. I been sober for six weeks, and that makes me vicious."
-- Randall 'Tex' Cobb
It’s more that David Haye has fought on American TV once in his life. The NFL is a league and over a course of time all those teams wind up playing each other or you see them on your TV at some point and they’re all on SportsCenter every Monday morning. A lot more American fight fans — not all of them care to follow the sport more than the biggest fights — know Pacquiao than know Haye. I’m not saying Haye isn’t a pretty big star overall, because he obviously is.
by Scott Christ on Jun 27, 2009 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions
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