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Ricky Hatton return rumors piling up

Manchester's Ricky Hatton is reportedly considering a return to the ring this year. Is it worth it? (via www.bbc.co.uk)

Manchester's Ricky Hatton is reportedly considering a return to the ring this year. Is it worth it? (via www.bbc.co.uk)

Manchester superstar Ricky Hatton is rumored to be considering a return to the ring this year, and one opponent's name has come up. Keep in mind these are very much rumors, as Hatton has said zilch officially to this day about his future after he was destroyed inside of two rounds by Manny Pacquiao in May.

The Daily Star has this:

Hatton is contemplating one last fight in front of his home fans in Manchester, probably towards the end of the year.

...

Punch Promotions, Hatton’s new promotional company, has a deal with Sky Sports to screen shows from ­September.

And one of those is likely to feature the Manc light-­welterweight himself.

News of the World (via BoxingScene.com) has this:

There is talk that Hatton may return at 147 instead of 140, at least for his next fight, and the paper reports that one of the names being thrown around as a possible comeback opponent is Steve Forbes. Assistant trainer Lee Beard is expected to replace Floyd Mayweather Sr. as head trainer.

Stevie Forbes? Really? Again, we all like Steve Forbes. Tough guy, nice guy, great punch resistance, tricky skills, but he's feather-fisted and this would be Hatton-Malignaggi II. Ricky's not going to feel anything from Forbes unless Ricky is so beyond shot that he simply can't take a punch anymore, and I doubt that's the case. The bomb Pacquiao put him away with would've knocked out a horse.

If Hatton fights Forbes, it's a total UK fight. HBO won't buy that, Showtime won't buy that, I doubt even Vs. or ESPN2 would want to pick up the tab. It's a clear "here's one for the fans" bout and has no bearing on his legacy or anything of that sort. There is no drama, no intrigue. It's just Ricky Hatton coming back in an easily winnable fight against a veteran that poses him no real threat. Even though Ricky isn't too hot at 147 pounds, Forbes similarly has no business fighting at welterweight, so it's just two blown up guys fighting for the paycheck and so Ricky can tip his cap to the Manchester fans. And there's really nothing wrong with that, it's just not an important fight. It's also sort of Oscar-ish now, this bit with Hatton. Lose to better fighter, take one against mid-tier guy. He did it after Mayweather with Lazcano, and he'd be doing it again with Forbes after Pacquiao. Outside of going out with a near-guaranteed win against a respectable but harmless foe, there's nothing to that fight.

Kevin Mitchell of The Guardian says pretty much the same thing, and I bet this'll be the feeling around boxing: "Forbes has no merit as an opponent, apart from padding out Ricky's career. A win over someone who has lost four times in his last six outings will tell him nothing about his future and do little for his standing in the business."

He's got that right.

I don't know that Ricky Hatton should continue fighting. That's not for me to say. If I'm going with my gut, just having watched him fight, I'd say there's no reason to go on. He's broken down physically, not the fighter he was at his peak, and will lose against guys who can punch. Beating the Paulie Malignaggis and Steve Forbeses of the world should still be attainable, but what does that really mean? He'll still be in there, getting hit in the head, and it's not like that's ever going to be fun or helpful for him down the line.

The other big rumor that had been going around (perhaps more wishful thinking from UK fans than anything) was Amir Khan, should Khan get past Andriy Kotelnik, should that fight actually happen. Freddie Roach now trains Khan and says he'd do it, and Freddie knows Amir's chin problems. Roach is also not a guy that bets wildly, so he sees something again. He has to believe Hatton is fully worn out, just shot to hell. Khan's speed, height, reach and power could make for a short night for Hatton, which would be gutting for his supporters, and probably not do Khan any favors in the long run. I've compared that idea to Oscar de la Hoya twice picking the bones of Julio Cesar Chavez to win the love of Mexican fans, and I stand by the comparison. It's just transparent.

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I think its a little hypocritical to not quit your job

but to tell another guy to quit HIS job when he’s probably lost 1/3 to half of his net worth in the economic meltdown.

Gimme 1 round!

by ItBurnzWhenIP on Jun 29, 2009 8:11 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

my point being

If the guy wants to pack houses taking upper-mid level fights are you really going to begrudge him getting an 800K dollar (possibly pound) payday? I wouldn’t.

Let him go on as the elite level gatekeeper and make a good living in peace.

Gimme 1 round!

by ItBurnzWhenIP on Jun 29, 2009 8:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

No, I’m not going to begrudge him the financial windfall, I’m just saying a Hatton-Forbes fight means nothing. Since I’m discussing boxing and not the economy, I’m going to stick with the boxing impact and not worry about Ricky’s bank account. For the most part, the people urging him to retire (including many fellow fighters) don’t want to see him get hurt.

by SC on Jun 29, 2009 8:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’m also not urging him to retire, for what it’s worth. First of all, why would he listen to me, and second of all, he knows his body and it’s his call. It’s not an Evander Holyfield deal.

by SC on Jun 29, 2009 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I get what your saying. It’s Hatton’s business what to do with his life, same as its Tommy Hearns’ or Holyfield’s business if he wants to keep on fighting. As long as Hatton is cleared by a trustworthy, neutral doctor, its okay by me. But I don’t think that’s what SC was saying at all. The idea is, “what’s good and meaningful for Boxing?” Everyone has as much of a right to an opinion about that as Hatton has to decide what’s right for him… the fans foot the bills, after all.

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by jrok on Jun 29, 2009 9:18 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

god damn it just retire already

The Dude Abides

by battle axe of doom on Jun 29, 2009 9:31 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

"Assistant trainer Lee Beard is expected to replace Floyd Mayweather Sr. as head trainer."

Jesus, why? Is that really what he was missing in his last few performances? Not enough Lee Beard? What happened to the Roach rumors?

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by The Kittitas Kid on Jun 29, 2009 10:04 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I think Freddie has a lot on his plate the rest of the year with Khan and then getting Manny ready for Cotto. Or at least that’s what I’d guess. Ricky’s a whole other high-profile project, and Freddie’s health is what it is. Honestly if Hatton’s comfortable with Beard, that’s probably the best you get. He’s not becoming a different fighter. I think we can all agree now that as promising as it might have seemed in a few ways, the Hatton-Floyd Sr. pairing wound up a total botch job.

by SC on Jun 30, 2009 5:00 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, I guess you gotta dance with who brung ya.

He should bring back Billy Graham if he’s just going to do a victory lap, though. I realize there’s not much chance of that with the litigation, but maybe if you get the guy another payday some hurt feelings are smoothed over and you can just declare what’s done as done.

The two had a nearly father/son relationship. It’s a shame to see that thrown away for what was, as you say, a stupid idea to begin wit. (Floyd Sr./Ricky collaboration).

Although detractors decry (MMA) as a brutal, bloody form of human cockfighting, aficionados know it is a brutal, bloody, totally fucking awesome form of human cockfighting. -The Onion

by The Kittitas Kid on Jun 30, 2009 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well I am concerned for Ricky because his style has never been one that protects himself and now that his skills are fading… he needs to be very careful in who he matches up with. If he wants to fight Forbes… cool but he shouldn’t be facing the elite of the sport esp at 147 where he has looked like crap runned over.

"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."

by Zocalo on Jun 29, 2009 10:27 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I dont think Ricky’s skills are fading at all. I just think he is not on an elite world class fighter. Just because a guy loses to the consensus #1 P4P Fighter at the time of each fight doesn’t mean he is completely shot. I would actually pay to see a Hatton/Maidana fight and think it could be real exciting. If Hatton were to beat Maidana who just beat Ortiz, it would put him right back in the picture. At 147 I think he would provide the sternest test in Andre Berto’s career.

Hatton still has some legs left in him and if Steve Forbes is a tune up to see what he has left, I’m OK with that. I personally would love to see Hatton reunite with his old trainer(name escapes me at the moment).

by MatteoFC on Jun 29, 2009 11:13 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

This is a fine argument, and I totally HOPE it’s the right one. Billy Graham was the old trainer. I’d like to see them reconcile, too.

by SC on Jun 30, 2009 1:45 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I dont believe him to be shot. Im not sure why he would want to fight at 147 unless he cant be bothered trying to get down to 140 as he has had problems in the past and wouldnt have the desire to for a showcase fight, seeing Hatton at his worst weight wouldn’t be a good thank you to the fans.

I think he could continue, he would beat alot of guys in top 10 even top 5 maybe and get another title at 140 but sooner or later he will get another loss and people will stop paying to watch him beating ok fighters.

"Good, so it can’t go any deeper." - Arturo Gatti after being told he was cut to the bone

by sigidy on Jun 30, 2009 12:45 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Hatton

It’s somewhat difficult to really gauge where Hatton is as a fighter right now. On one hand, his only losses have come to two of the best fighters of this era. However, he looked absolutely overmatched in both of those encounters. For me, I believe that Hatton should continue to fight and continue to be matched up with top contenders (which I don’t consider Forbes to be). Until he starts losing to guys that are lower top-10 in his weight class, it’s reasonable for him to continue his boxing career and try to earn as much money as he possibly can.

by Joshua-Trull on Jun 30, 2009 4:55 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I don’t see him fighting at 147 doing any favours. Maybe a fight against Holt and if he came through that well then perhaps the winner of the Bradley-Campbell fight could be the right path. Maidana’s a risky fight but would be good to watch, no doubt.

by strike4A on Jun 30, 2009 6:14 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

one more

‘Outside of going out with a near-guaranteed win against a respectable but harmless foe, there’s nothing to that fight.’

Well, that may mean quite a lot to him and some fans…he’s a proud person and I’m sure thats not the last memory he wants to give the fans as a fighter. He’s had a career that deserves a better finish than that. No, he’s not going to do anything more for his legacy now, he’s not going to be in any p4p lists, but it would be nice to go out on a high back home, and maybe if he’s less than impressive (would be hoping he just gets through) retiring straight after. That would be my hope anyway.

We're all given some sort of skill in life. Mine just happens to be beating up on people. (Sugar Ray Leonard)

by BrianBrock on Jun 30, 2009 7:42 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

A perfect fight

The fight should have been Diaz and Hatton. Two fighters coming off a loss that don’t fight going backwards. All these fighters know is punch, punch, and punch. Perfect for a nice televised fight with the outcome being a knockout.

by Haans Bishop on Jun 30, 2009 10:10 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

If he just wants to take a domestic level fight

then Michael Gomez would be a war while it lasted.

Hatton-Diaz would be good too, but I have to say, even in this faded state, Hatton would batter Diaz, and GBP doesn’t want to completely kill off one of its young fighters. Hatton-Katsidis makes more sense to me, and IIRC, it’s been discussed before.

Heck, after a comeback fight, I’d still be interested in Hatton-Bradley. Based on styles, I’d slightly favor Hatton to win that one.

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by Brickhaus on Jun 30, 2009 11:01 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Katsidis has said he’d love to fight Hatton and would gladly go to Manchester to do it. I also think Hatton would beat him still. Probably. That could be a good one.

by SC on Jun 30, 2009 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I wouldn’t even class Gomez as being at domestic level. He was destroyed by Ricky Burns last time out at super featherweight and has said that’s it for his career. Minimal $$$ there for Hatton.

by strike4A on Jul 1, 2009 4:57 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

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