Rumor: Mosley-Pacquiao moving forward?
Since the talk is starting to kick up a good bit today, here's the latest from Lance Pugmire of the LA Times:
Though Mosley's camp was quick to announce Pacquiao's interest, saying Mosley would agree to fight at a catch weight between 140 and 147 pounds and accept a 60-40 split of the purse in Pacquiao's favor for a bout that could be fought Oct. 17, Pacquiao's promoter Bob Arum was more reserved.
"This has absolutely no credibility to it. Manny hasn't decided who he's going to fight," Arum said. "It could be Mosley, or it could be [Miguel] Cotto, [Floyd] Mayweather Jr., [Juan Manuel] Marquez or [Edwin] Valero. They're all in the mix."
Arum said, "Shane's a good guy, he's definitely in the picture," but Arum insisted Pacquiao will make no decision about his next opponent until watching the June 13 world welterweight title fight between Cotto and Joshua Clottey.
"Why would I eliminate options?" said Arum, who confirmed he was contacted today about a possible Pacquiao-Mosley bout by Mosley's promoter Richard Schaefer. "I've also heard from Manny's people that he wants to wait and see the Mayweather-Marquez fight [July 18] before he agrees to anything. That would mean we won't be ready until November.
"All that he's said is that he's willing to fight Mosley. But he still has to explore the best deal."
One thing I don't get is this insistence that if Manny Pacquiao waits until the Mayweather-Marquez fight is over, the fight won't be ready until November. If there's a war on July 18, then that could be right from the other side, but what if it's not the Mayweather-Marquez winner? What's the trouble then? Cotto, Valero or Mosley would all be ready by October, and it's not like Manny's coming off of a grueling fight or anything. He probably could've gone again the week after the Hatton destruction. There's nothing really stopping Manny from fighting in October. Something could stop Floyd or JMM, I guess.
If it does become Mosley-Pacquiao, I worry about the weight. I'll say it now, and some of you have expressed the same thought: Mosley at his age trying to boil down to 143 pounds or something will not work. He'll go into that fight bone dry from cutting those extra few pounds, the same as happened to Oscar de la Hoya in December. It's hard to make a weight you haven't made in years when you're this advanced in your career, no matter how good you are.
Still, it'd be an exciting proposition. If Mosley was in good shape there could be some seriously amazing fireworks. I don't think Pacquiao being a lefty really hurts Shane. He's lost to great southpaws before, but Manny and Shane are of the same cloth. They can box, they can be slick, but the two of them love to war. When you have that instinct it's hard to turn it off. Ricky Hatton couldn't do it in May, coming straight at Pacquiao and getting picked apart.
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I honestly don’t know who to pick for this fight if it happens… I doubt both fighters and looked like an idiot when they routed their opponents.
"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."
Well… it doesn’t surprise me that Mosley is an “option”… I mean, of course he is. I still don’t see any way that this fight could come off… although, I have to say the 60-40 split and a 143-4 welter catchweight are amazing offers from Mosley that ould potentially make it a sweetheart deal for both guys.
If it does become Mosley-Pacquiao, I worry about the weight. I’ll say it now, and some of you have expressed the same thought: Mosley at his age trying to boil down to 143 pounds or something will not work.
Count me among those guys! I am convinced that Shane is really beyond the breaking point at 144 or lower. It’s just not natural for a man his age and size to dry out to that degree and still be effective…. Shane is giving away the house, car, keys and wife to offer what he’s offered. He is making it really attractive…. Jeez.
"This fight'll be the nastiest thing you'll ever see. I been sober for six weeks, and that makes me vicious."
-- Randall 'Tex' Cobb
If Mosley is happy with the conditions offered, then he is, in all likelihood, either desperate for the money or convinced that he has an excellent chance of beating manny, even below welterweight. If Mayweather beats Marquez and wont play ball, then Mosley would be a good alternative, but i don’t think that he would stand a chance at 143.
I go for option 1.
One more big payday to cash in on the Margarito performance.
Although detractors decry (MMA) as a brutal, bloody form of human cockfighting, aficionados know it is a brutal, bloody, totally fucking awesome form of human cockfighting. -The Onion
by The Kittitas Kid on Jun 4, 2009 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions
espn said the fight was already confirmed
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by battle axe of doom on Jun 3, 2009 11:49 PM EDT reply actions
nothing from Rafael
And there would be.
by Scott Christ on Jun 3, 2009 11:59 PM EDT up reply actions
oh alright. i just saw it on the news scroller on espn news earlier. i must have read it wrong or something
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by battle axe of doom on Jun 4, 2009 12:14 AM EDT up reply actions
Mosley's weight
Worth noting he came in at 147.2 for the Margarito weigh-in and had to go back to the scale a second time to make 147 even… 143-144 could make for another wasted $50 for us…
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by battle axe of doom on Jun 4, 2009 3:11 AM EDT up reply actions
Seems to me like Mosley is bending over backwards to make this happen, and the Pacquiao camp isn’t willing to say yes to anything at this point, even at a weight that would favor him. As I’ve said before, if Mayweather was doing this he would be getting ripped to shreds, but Manny gets a free pass.
Does Manny get a pass here because he is wanting a shot at Mayweather?
Manny isn’t ducking him, he just wants a bigger fight.
If you were thinking, you wouldn't have thought that.
60 percent of a 20 million dollar fight is still far less then 50 percent of 40 million fight. Still, you have to admit that Shane is pulling out all the stops for this negotiation. He is making himself look like a very attractive with both the weight and the price tag… Shane would have never given up this much on a Mayweather fight.
"This fight'll be the nastiest thing you'll ever see. I been sober for six weeks, and that makes me vicious."
-- Randall 'Tex' Cobb
Mosley HAS to pull out all the stops.
Mayweather isn’t going to fight him, and who else is there that will provide the kind of scratch he needs to get up for a fight at his age?
Although detractors decry (MMA) as a brutal, bloody form of human cockfighting, aficionados know it is a brutal, bloody, totally fucking awesome form of human cockfighting. -The Onion
by The Kittitas Kid on Jun 4, 2009 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions

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