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Why HBO didn't pick up Klitschko-Chagaev

After years of making crappy showcase fights and airing insignificant Klitschko blowouts, Ross Greenburg suddenly can't be bothered to air a significant Klitschko fight just because the fight will probably stink.  Part of me wants to applaud him, and part of me wants to kick him in the groin.

After years of making crappy showcase fights and airing insignificant Klitschko blowouts, Ross Greenburg suddenly can't be bothered to air a significant Klitschko fight just because the fight will probably stink. Part of me wants to applaud him, and part of me wants to kick him in the groin.

As everyone knows by now, Ross Greenburg and HBO have declined to pick up the newly scheduled fight between Wladimir Klitschko and Ruslan Chagaev.  While there are a number of reasons they didn't pick up the fight, including budget, that they don't have a current contract with Klitschko like they used to and that fights between two non-English non-Spanish speakers don't tend to do well stateside, the real reason they didn't pick it up is simply because the fight itself will probably stink.  The stylistic matchup between Klitschko and Haye, two big punchers with shaky whiskers, provided the promise of fireworks; this fight, instead, provides the promise of a cure for insomnia.  There are a number of reasons for this:

  • Wlad can't handle lefties.  This isn't entirely true - he can beat lefties, and he probably has a better resume against lefties than any heavyweight in history.  Twice he's beaten Chris Byrd, who at the time of their second matchup was the #1 ranked heavyweight in the world.  He beat Sultan Ibragimov, a beltholder, to unify titles.  He beat Tony Thompson, a crafty southpaw who was game but just got outgunned.  But he got his ass kicked by Corrie Sanders, and ever since then, he's changed his style against southpaws.  What do the Byrd, Ibragimov and Thompson fights all have in common?  They were all B-O-R-I-N-G.  Rather than even risk being caught by a big left hand, Wlad just pawed out the jab (and I mean literally pawed, not the nice, stiff jab you usually see from Wlad) to keep these guys at a distance, and won rounds by virtue of not letting his opponent mount any offense.  It wasn't that Wlad hit them so much, it was that his opponents threw nothing back at him, simply because they had no clue how to get on the inside.  Not that I want to torture you with this, but here's what I mean, highlights from Klitschko-Ibragimov.  Keep in mind, these are the HIGHLIGHTS, the most exciting the fight got at any point during this complete dud of a fight.

  • Chagaev has looked like crap lately.  Chagaev had a good win over John Ruiz, the only loss of Ruiz's career (other than his destruction by David Tua) that he didn't dispute afterwards.  He also had a solid and clear victory over Valuev, someone who has "beaten" a bunch of fighters because they haven't beaten him clearly enough.  But ever since Chagaev came down with Hepatitis, he's looked lethargic and powerless.  He struggled against journeyman Michael Sprott.  He struggled against nobody Carl Davis Drumond.  He's lacked snap on his punches, and he's lacked the head and body movement that allowed him to get inside on Valuev and punish his body.  A Chagaev who can't get on the inside stands no shot against Klitschko, and a Chagaev stuck on the outside is, well, Sultan Ibragimov.  And once again, that fight stunk.  Here's what I mean by Chagaev looking not like his old self:


  • Even if Chagaev can get on the inside, it will turn into a hugging match.  One more side-effect of training under Manny Steward for years and having a shoddy chin is that Klitschko doesn't even bother trying to fight on the inside.  He knows his strength is on the outside, and he stands more of a chance of catching a shot he doesn't see coming on the inside, so any time someone gets inside on him, he just grabs up and clinches.  It's very effective, but makes for a boring fight.  Chagaev doesn't have the strength to get him to stop, and he doesn't have the quickness to pop back on the outside, like Haye might have been able to do.  The clearest example of these hugfest tactics came in the Brock fight, where EVERY time Brock got inside, Klitschko just smothered him and clinched.  He has a history of doing this to smaller fighters as well.


All of this said, Klitschko-Chagaev is still a significant fight and should be picked up by someone.  ESPN and MSG have both been known to pick up fights on short notice when they can get a good one on the cheap.  Showtime and Versus would each be expected to pay much less than HBO for the fight, although I question whether anything at all would fit into Versus' budget - that horrible NHL contract of theirs has to be bleeding them dry.  In the worst case scenario, there's still enough time to set it up as a pay-per-view.  A fight that will create a new Ring belt holder, and depending on your view of things, possibly the first lineal champion at heavyweight in five years, really should be on TV, even if it projects to be a snoozer.

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Good stuff, Brick

One quibble with Ross G.: Wlad speaks English….

“I want to see ocean. I want to see black people. I want to see palms.”

"This fight'll be the nastiest thing you'll ever see. I been sober for six weeks, and that makes me vicious."
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by jrok on Jun 6, 2009 4:48 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

True

I guess I mean Eastern bloc fighters. Heck, even Brits don’t tend to do well (see Calzaghe-Kessler), although I guess Haye is deemed to be more compelling than Calzaghe.

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by Brickhaus on Jun 6, 2009 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

HBO buys Klitschko against Rahman, Thompson and Ray Austin but turns down Chagaev?

by lefthook24 on Jun 6, 2009 6:48 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

They had a 5-fight deal with Wladimir then, so they had to air his fights

Klitschko-Haye was a one-off they were paying huge money for. Still, it seems like they should be able to offer less money for Chagaev and still air it, but it’s their judgment call. As I said above, part of me likes the move and part of me hates it. I like the fact that Ross is sticking to his guns about airing good fights, but there’s some hypocrisy there simply because he’s continued to air some bad ones (i.e. Dawson-Tarver II). Granted, he’s been airing fewer bad fights the last couple years than HBO had done from about 2004 – 2007, when it seemed like 2/3 of the fights were showcase fights, but at least this fight has significance. I know it’s not his job to make sure every big fight is shown in the US, but it will make me mad if it doesn’t end up landing somewhere.

At the end of the day, if they can set it up quickly enough, I suspect they’ll go the PPV option. Even if they only get 30,000 buys (which seems about right to me), they’d still make more money than if Versus or ESPN forked over $100 grand to air the fight.

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by Brickhaus on Jun 6, 2009 7:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That is not accurate. They didn’t have to air his fights. They have a first right of refusal. They could have passed when Povetkin got injured. Instead “they approved” and aired Rahman. HBO only pays “huge” money for fights where they own the exclusive rights. They were sharing Klitschko-Haye with two other overseas networks. They pay far less for those kind of shows. Ross did not stick to his guns. He did not expect Klitschko to go forward without them. It’s a fact that German network RTL pay Klitschko three to four times that amount of money when compared to HBO. For Klitschko it was no loss to move forward without HBO.

by lefthook24 on Jun 6, 2009 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I thought all of those shows were also aired by German networks

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by Brickhaus on Jun 7, 2009 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

showtime

has a great opportunity tonight during the strikeforce event to announce they have this fight if the deal can be made. i sent kevin iole a tweet today to see if hes heard anything about them getting it, he actually replied to me saying ntohing yet but hes seeing the showtime peeps today and trying to find out.

i’m kinda thinking they are going to pass on it because of the lack of advertising time they have on it. but with 2 mma events in the next couple weeks they can promote the heck out of it. yes it is an mma event and not all mma people watch boxing but its still the demo they look for.

by sonofapsycho on Jun 6, 2009 7:51 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Showtimes has nothing for the summer… The only fight is the Vic/Abecko fight. I would love for them to pick up the fight.

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by Zocalo on Jun 6, 2009 7:55 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Haye pulling out was bad news but i was cheered up when Klitschko-Chagaev was signed…
Then thinking about it, Ruslan is…ok. Been..ok since winning the belt. The article is bang on SC Wlads gonna stick his arm out all night , jab and tie up.
Its going to be boring to watch Wlad outscore but im making the most of Setanta boxing while i can. I hear Setanta are fucked.

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by dinkman on Jun 8, 2009 3:19 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I heard that too.

Massive shame if so.

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by Chaos100 on Jun 8, 2009 7:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Via DanR
• Although I don’t have a strong opinion one way or another, I understand HBO’s decision not to pick up the June 20 Wladimir Klitschko-Ruslan Chagaev fight. It comes down to money, and HBO is in no mood to spend a lot of it for a fight in Germany (meaning no live U.S. prime-time telecast) that few have high expectations for in the ring, even if the bout is significant. If HBO spends its cash on this fight, there won’t be anything left for a better Klitschko fight in the fall, or some other big fight. I don’t love the decision, but I get it and respect it after Klitschko’s intended opponent, David Haye, pulled out because of an injury. At least we’ll get to see the fight here in America. It will broadcast live on ESPN Classic.

"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."

by Zocalo on Jun 10, 2009 10:43 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

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