Bad Left Hook Fight Night: Joseph Agbeko v. Vic Darchinyan
by Scott Christ on Jul 11, 2009 6:12 PM EDT
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PrintTonight's round-by-round of Agbeko-Darchinyan is dedicated to the memory of Arturo Gatti. May you rest in peace, "Thunder."
"No matter how many times they remake King Kong, the ending is always the same. It's beauty that kills beast. Who's more beautiful in the ring than I am?" -- Vic Darchinyan
"Vic is always talking about his power and about how he's this and that, but I've watched a couple of his fights and never saw that power. I'm going to let him do whatever he wants to do in this fight because I can do whatever he does better than him." -- Joseph Agbeko
| JOSEPH AGBEKO Ring Magazine No. 6 (118) IBF Titleholder |
VIC DARCHINYAN Ring Magazine No. 1 (115) Ring Magazine No. 8 Pound-for-Pound Bad Left Hook No. 7 Pound-for-Pound |
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| 26-1 | Record | 32-1-1 |
| 22 | KO | 26 |
| Bronx, NY (Accra, Ghana) | Hometown | Sydney, Australia (Vanadzor, Armenia) |
| 29 | Age | 33 |
| 5'6" | Height | 5'5 1/2" |
| Reach | 64 1/2" | |
| William Gonzalez (MD-12) Luis Perez (TKO-7) |
Notable Wins | Jorge Arce (RTD-11) Cristian Mijares (KO-9) Dmitri Kirilov (KO-5) |
| Wladimir Sidorenko (MD-12) | Notable Losses | Nonito Donaire (TKO-5) |
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For those who missed it in the schedule
There’s another very good fight on tonight. At 11 pm, ESPN Deportes will be airing Jorge Solis vs. Cristobal Cruz. I may stick around and RBR that one after Agbeko-Darchinyan. It should also be a banger.
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Darchinyan weighs 127 this morning
Agbeko is gonna get squashed
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Love the King Kong quote
Vic is always good for something like that.
Boxing is like jazz. The better it is, the less people appreciate it.
-George Foreman
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Is Thunder Gatti dead?
Imagine the Brewers offense without Ryan & Prince.
-Bill Schroeder
by Dikembe Meiztombo on Jul 11, 2009 4:42 PM EDT reply actions
Imagine the Brewers offense without Ryan & Prince.
-Bill Schroeder
by Dikembe Meiztombo on Jul 11, 2009 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Holy shit
He is….http://www.boxingscene.com/index.php?m=show&id=20961
Boxing is like jazz. The better it is, the less people appreciate it.
-George Foreman
Boxing Scene’s got it too — saying its a possible homicide: http://www.boxingscene.com/index.php?m=show&id=20961
BTW, Gevor is dominating Sturm so far
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Gevor vs. Sturm round 4
Gevor likely won the first three rounds, although German TV gave the first round to Sturm.
Basically, Gevor has just been plowing forward, keeping his head up against Sturm and constantly punishing the body. When he throws to the head, Sturm blocks it, but Sturm looks very uncomfortable with Gevor up close and is barely throwing punches.
40-36 Gevor
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Sturm vs. Gevor Round 5
More of the same so far. The ref seems to be doing everything in his power to help Sturm, breaking up the fighters even when nobody’s holding. Gevor’s output has slowed some, and Sturm is able to find the body as well a bit. Still, Gevor is just completely controlling the action and forcing Sturm to fight his fight. Not a lot of clean blows landed, but I give Gevor this round again, in good part on being the aggressor and his ring generalship.
50-45 Gevor
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Round 6
Gevor picks up the workrate again, and is just completely imposing himself on Sturm. Sturm better hope that Gevor tires out quickly, but Sturm isn’t the knockout puncher that Abraham is.
This ref is complete bullshit, but every time he breaks them up, Gevor gets right back on the inside. Sturm isn’t using his jab well to keep Gevor off of him.
60-54 Gevor
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FWIW
German online voting has the fight even.
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Round 7
Best back and forth action of the fight so far. Gevor started taking a step back and nailing Sturm with the uppercut. After finding success on the outside as well, he fought out at a distance, and the two of them traded a number of combos. However, Gevor landed a number of them that really snapped Sturm’s head back. Another Gevor round. I don’t know what fight the German public is watching.
70-63 Gevor.
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Is there an online ZDF feed?
"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."
No, stream
Justin told me about the TV
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Roudn 8
Gevor starts on the outside again, and throws about 20 jabs in a row without Sturm responding. Sturm then nails Gevor with a good combo, and Gevor comes back inside. This time, Sturm is prepared, and nails Gevor with the uppercut. While Gevor probably threw 3 times as many punches that round, I think Sturm landed the more effective ones.
79-73 Gevor
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Round 9
Sturm picked up his workrate this round, and Gevor has slowed down some. Gevor’s still throwing more punches, but Sturm’s punches have a lot more snap to them. First clear Sturm round of the fight.
88-83 Gevor
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Yeah, it's ridiculous
Online scoring has it even
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Round 10
Gevor got back on the inside again and pretty much completely dominated the round. Sturm landed two mini-flurries that made the crowd go crazy, but they didn’t seem to have any effect on Gevor. Based on the crowd noise, the stupid German judges will probably give that round to Sturm, but it was a dominant round by Gevor.
98-92 Gevor
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Round 11
Another dominant Gevor round. He had Sturm pinned in a corner for about 30 seconds, landed three uppercuts that snapped Sturm’s head back and seemed to have Sturm completely stunned for a while. German broadcasters still give the round to Sturm. I smell a robbery coming.
108-101 Gevor
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BTW, no punchstats
But I wouldn’t be surprised if Gevor is averaging 90 punches a round
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Round 12
Gevor looks like he’s about to get on his horse, but he bullrushes in and lands about 15 unanswered body punches. After that, both guys seem pretty content to just jab from the outside. Gevor round, but I could go either way.
118-110 Gevor
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I would say that there's an excuse if Sturm wins
But there really isn’t. He wasn’t even the more accurate puncher. Gevor had the higher workrate, Gevor controlled the ring, Gevor landed the harder shots, and both guys did a good job of blocking most of his opponent’s punches. I don’t know what fight the Germans were watching, but this should be a blowout by Gevor.
German TV has it 117-111 Sturm
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by Brickhaus on Jul 11, 2009 5:48 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Yup
115-113
115-113
117-111
Sturm UD
Absolutely bullshit scores.
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It sort of gives me pause about one of the things I used to criticize Calzaghe about… that he wouldn’t fight the pretender Sturm (or Beyer, for that matter). I still believe its a matter of pride to not let bozos call themselves “champions” in our division, but Joe’s calculation that he would’ve had to put Ottke on press row to win was probably correct. Hell, even then they might have called the KO a “foul.”
RIP Thunder… christ almighty, what a shame.
"This fight'll be the nastiest thing you'll ever see. I been sober for six weeks, and that makes me vicious."
-- Randall 'Tex' Cobb
Honestly, how do judges in Germany get it wrong so consistently? It’s obnoxious. I would never fight there if I wasn’t European.
Boxing is like jazz. The better it is, the less people appreciate it.
-George Foreman
The judges were probably provided by the WBA, which is consistently horrible with officiating(all ABC’s are terrible in this regard). Then they were probably wined and dined and “incentivized” by the promoter or somebody close to the promoter in order to massage the numbers for the bigger named fighter. What I don’t get though, aren’t Ghevor and Sturm promoted by the same promoter?
Yes, same promoter
But there’s a LOT more money in Sturm than Gevor. Sturm is inexplicably popular in Germany, and his fights draw big numbers. Gevor is a no-name with some good fights but no fanbase.
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I wonder if the Bobfather is involved on some level because Pavlik-Ghevor would not be as marketable as Pavlik-Sturm.
Pavlik-Gevor wouldn't have happened
If Gevor had won, you could pretty much guarantee a rematch.
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Selcuk Aydin TKO-9 Jackson Bonsu
I guess that puts Aydin and his sub-Hatton arms in the welterweight top ten.
He's squarely in the third tier
Small second tier in the weight class though. Just Berto and Collazo, IMO. Aydin’s right there with Rodriguez, Hlatswayo, Jackiewicz and the like.
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Ivan Kirpa UD-12 Miki Rodriguez
This makes Kirpa (24-1, 15 KO) the mandatory for Andre Berto’s WBC welterweight title. That’s right — the WBC put on a fight and sanctioned it as an eliminator, with a possible result being Berto-Rodriguez II.
My girlfriend thinks these guys are too small for their nicknames
She thinks it should be “Raging Veal” vs “King Chimp”
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Hello everyone, sad day for sure. RIP Arturo from a Boston-based Micky Ward fan.
Do we have a result from the Cunningham result yet?
Probably another half hour
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No, it's out
Are we not spoiling it for some reason, or can I post?
Just found it: Cunningham UD 119-109, 118-110, 117-111
by BabyBull1289 on Jul 11, 2009 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions
eek sorry, i dont think its telivised though
by BabyBull1289 on Jul 11, 2009 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions
no it was fine to post
Off TV undercard
by Scott Christ on Jul 11, 2009 9:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, I'm dumb
For some reason I was thinking it was on the Adamek-Gunn undercard
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It almost seems in poor taste to me
To have a tribute to Michael Jackson, but not to Gatti and Arguello
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Yeah, Don King made it a part tribute show to Michael Jackson too.
by Scott Christ on Jul 11, 2009 9:16 PM EDT up reply actions
good evening all
looking forward to the fight tonight. hope everyone is well
<---Not that impressed by DeMarco generally
But they can lay off him a bit
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On a night to honor Gatti, these guys are certainly not fighting like him.
Boxing is like jazz. The better it is, the less people appreciate it.
-George Foreman
It's ok either way
The main event will have plenty of action.
Boxing is like jazz. The better it is, the less people appreciate it.
-George Foreman
DeMarco-Adjaho R1
I’m really stunned that Showtime didn’t mention Arturo Gatti before the fights have started.
Stiff jab from DeMarco. Both are pawing and the boo birds are out in a major way. Getting the feeling that maybe the undercard wasn’t so exciting? Wow, zero action through the first half of the round.
Straight left by DeMarco. When he throws, he’s landing. DeMarco staggers Adjaho on a left hand, and Adjaho backs off. Slow round, but an easy and wide DeMarco round for sure.
DeMarco 10-9
Adjaho 10-9
His knees buckled because he was off balance. It would have been a legitimate KD had he fallen, but Adjaho won the round other than that one punch.
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I realize I'm probably in the minority on this one though
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Man, totally disagree. Ajdaho did zilch.
by Scott Christ on Jul 11, 2009 9:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Bernstein agrees with me
That’s good enough for me :-0
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Not sure you can call what either guy did “work”
Boxing is like jazz. The better it is, the less people appreciate it.
-George Foreman
Yeesh, neither of these guys are coming close to landing anything
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No one papers an arena like Don King.
"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."
Yeah they gave away a lot of tickets from what I’ve heard.
by Scott Christ on Jul 11, 2009 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions
DeMarco-Adjaho R2
There’s a good little rush by Adjaho. DeMarco awkwardly backs away from another mini charge. Long right from Adjaho. DeMarco is now doing nothing. Adjaho has totally dominated what is another slow, ugly, dull round. No one’s landing much of anything square or hard. Adjaho’s jabbing a little but eh.
Adjaho 10-9
19-19
20-18 Adjaho
But I can’t help but feel like DeMarco could take the fight over if he decides to be just a bit more aggressive.
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We don’t know what Cunningham’s fight looked like, but could it have been worse than this has started?
Pretty much everyone but showtime thought they picked the wrong fight.
Well they’ve done a good bit with DeMarco, he’s “their” fighter. Cunningham is just a cruiser with no fanbase.
by Scott Christ on Jul 11, 2009 9:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Gary Shaw's timeslot
So he’s showcasing his fighter. He made the call though.
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Just can’t imagine that, that many people tuning in to see Antonio DeMarco. Why not put the better fight on?
by BabyBull1289 on Jul 11, 2009 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions
They probably have designs on showing Valero-DeMarco if that comes off. Or hope anyway.
by Scott Christ on Jul 11, 2009 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Braithwaite only has a puncher's chancce
And Cunningham has a shaky chin. I’ll bet it was a pretty boring fight with Cunningham backpedaling most of the way.
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DeMarco-Adjaho R3
Adjaho with some rights, DeMarco looks like maybe he’s ready to fight a little. Right by Adjaho just clips DeMarco’s chin. Left hook does the same. DeMarco seems mentally absent. Adjaho with another straight right, and then a long right isn’t quite home. This is a really boring fight. I mean there’s no other way to put it. DeMarco is so awkward against a guy his own height.
Adjaho 10-9
Adjaho 29-28
"He's known as a brawler"
Obviously Gus Johnson has only seen the Kid diamond fight. He’s usually boring like this.
Anyway, Adjaho 30-27. Closer round though. DeMarco needs to start putting punches together.
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i've wondered how many fighters gus has actually seen
he doesn’t strike me as a guy who was paying attention to boxing before he landed this job
-Brian
by bp on Jul 11, 2009 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions
I really think he might be fairly up on things. He did great with MMA on CBS, I thought.
by Scott Christ on Jul 11, 2009 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions
I think this is DeMarco's 4th time on Showtime
But 2 of them were before Gus was hired.
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You know the fight is boring when Gus Johnson can’t get pumped….
"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."
DeMarco-Adjaho R4
DeMarco starting to taking over a bit in the first half of this round, getting a little more aggressive, and he needs to do that. Adjaho is showboating when he’s getting hit, which I never think is a good sign. DeMarco has him on the ropes, Adjaho trying to play possum perhaps. DeMarco round as Adjaho never gets untracked.
DeMarco 10-9
38-38
DeMarco round
I had it close, and thought he stole it with the best punch of the round at the very end. Both guys are hitting more air than anything though.
39-37 Adjaho
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Dude
They need to focus the camera
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Usually don't see them make mistakes like that
Their monitor must be tiny or something.
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DeMarco-Adjaho R5
This is a fuck ugly fight. It’s not even so insanely boring now because they’re throwing, it’s just sloppy and both guys are having trouble in there. Neither of them look like they wouldn’t get creamed by Valero in short order. DeMarco with some big shots, both right and left hands. HERE COMES ADJAHO with a charge, but DeMarco eats it and moves on. Well, hey, it’s heating up.
Adjaho throwing rights with VICIOUS intent, but only one of three even sorta lands. DeMarco with some lefts, countered by a right. Easily the round’s best fight. Business is picking up.
Adjaho 10-9
Adjaoho 48-47
Adjaho round
But I could go either way. The most effective punches were landed by DeMarco, but Adjaho had more effective exchanges
49-46 Adjaho
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DeMarco-Adjaho R6
DeMarco backing Adjaho down again, and a straight left really catches him with about a minute left. This is a tough fight to gauge so far. There are moments where both look ADJAHO DRILLED WITH A LEFT HAND! ADJAHO HANGS ON! Man, good defensive work by Adjaho there. He got POPPED! Adjaho trying to move around, throwing goofy ass punches now, trying to be cool, and he trips and freaks out. Now DeMarco almost falls on his ass. Man what a weird round.
DeMarco 10-9
57-57
What I was saying is that there are moments when both look like they could totally take over, but then neither does.
by Scott Christ on Jul 11, 2009 9:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Big round for DeMarco
58-56 Adjaho. I wouldn’t complain too hard if you had it 58-56 DeMarco though.
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I’m not a big Valero guy by any means but he would probably end it early with either of these guys as they leave a lot to be desired defensively.
10-9 DeMarco, 58-56 DeMarco
You mean Adjaho I think
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Press row all has Adjaho leading
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The way Adjaho is pulling back
I wouldn’t be surprised if he gets knocked down by a glancing blow. Just way off balance when he does that.
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I think Valero would absolutely destroy these guys.
Boxing is like jazz. The better it is, the less people appreciate it.
-George Foreman
Valero would destroy most of the lightweight division
But without Pac and JMM and Campbell and Guzman, I think the division is very overrated.
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DeMarco-Adjaho R7
Adjaho is starting to lose his way, I think. DeMarco is really throwing big combos whenever he can, and even though he’s not doing much in terms of really clean, effective punching, he’s looking better now. Adjaho is a tricky fig defensively though. Adjaho with a left hook. 10 seconds in a stealable round. Here comes DeMarco with two big lefts to seal it.
DeMarco 10-9
DeMarco 67-66
Adjaho seems to be building up his confidence
I don’t know if that\’s a good thing or a bad thing for him though. If he gets too cocky, he might get caught. Good round for Adjaho though.
68-65 Adjaho
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Cmon Antonio, just finish him
Adjaho is completely faded, and DeMarco is letting him off the hook
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DeMarco-Adjaho R8
Adjaho throwing leather early in the round, and backing DeMarco down. Adjaho coming with rights and lefts, and both hands are landing. DeMarco wobbled! Adjaho pouring it on! IT’S A FUCKING FIREFIGHT NOW! ADJAHO BACKED DOWN! Well this got good fast, huh?
Adjaho backing down and wobbling! Goddamn it, this fight is just plain weird. Adjaho might be gassing out. Now they’re back to the waiting game in the second half of the round. Big left hand by DeMarco! Uppercut from Adjaho in return.
That was a fun round.
DeMarco 10-9
DeMarco 77-75
Big round for DeMarco
Adjaho was dominating early, hurt DeMarco, then DeMarco countered back with something that hurt Adjaho worse than DeMarco had been hurt. Just annoying though. Had DeMarco kept on the pressure, he could have scored a KO.
77-75 Adjaho
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Press row all has it wider than I do for Adjaho
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Sometimes the fight looks different from a different angle
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DeMarco-Adjaho R9
Uppercut from DeMarco, then some combos. Adjaho is out of rhythm offensively now. Tough round to score, though, because DeMarco isn’t exactly landing a lot and Adjaho is arguably controlling the pace. Rights from Adjaho. Pawing left from DeMarco. Adjaho is hurt — he takes a knee and he’s trying to say … I don’t know, but he’s not getting up.
Fight’s over.
Antonio DeMarco KO-9
What the fuck happened?
That's kind of a disappointing ending
I think Adjaho is saying he was knocked out when he was on his knee.
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Oh whatever, that was a glancing blow
That was a bad acting job. Tried to pull a Lorenzo.
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That was just STUPID. Wow. I hate when fighters do that. Like Clottey did all fight against Cotto.
Boxing is like jazz. The better it is, the less people appreciate it.
-George Foreman
you mean when Clottey was tackled by Cotto?
by BabyBull1289 on Jul 11, 2009 9:53 PM EDT up reply actions
No, at the end of the fight
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Clottey was whining a lot in that fight...he was annoying
-Brian
by bp on Jul 11, 2009 9:54 PM EDT up reply actions
I dont remember it being that major of a deal.
by BabyBull1289 on Jul 11, 2009 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions
I thought it was a great fight, but it was pretty noticeable.
by Scott Christ on Jul 11, 2009 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions
I don’t know. If he could have got a fouls deduction, it could have swung the fight. I think Clottey was looking for a point but I don’t remember him “whining all night”. At least not during the 12 rounds.
I scored it 114-113 for Clottey anyhow. Oh well, old news.
by BabyBull1289 on Jul 11, 2009 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions
DeMarco's stock doesn't go up here
IMO. Valero spanks his ass.
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Yeah he still needs a good bit more seasoning.
by Scott Christ on Jul 11, 2009 9:53 PM EDT up reply actions
I liked how the ref handled the interview.
"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."
Well I’d like for him to give it up period.
by Scott Christ on Jul 11, 2009 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions
The Bronx is just like Ghana? Is that an insult?
Boxing is like jazz. The better it is, the less people appreciate it.
-George Foreman
I from the Bronx...
and there’s a significant sized Ghanaian population there.
by AsianSensation on Jul 12, 2009 12:15 AM EDT up reply actions
I have to admit I am going to see the Carino/Cyborg fight…
"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."
speaking of august 15th, SC and Brick, are you guys planning on ordering/Round By Rounding that Top Rank card?
I’m getting married that night, so I’ll be out of action.
by Scott Christ on Jul 11, 2009 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh the Solis/Johnson fight didn’t cause a postponement?
Just kidding, Congrats
by BabyBull1289 on Jul 11, 2009 10:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Depends
Hopefully, but I might be out of commission as well. I need to move sometime before the end of August, and if it ends up being just before then, I might not have internet and cable set up yet.
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Really?! More MJ overkill? Wow. This is dumb.
Boxing is like jazz. The better it is, the less people appreciate it.
-George Foreman
10 seconds of Arturo Gatti
No mention of Alexis Arguello, and Michael Jackson gets 2 minutes.
I think Jackson faked his own death just to reaffirm that the world still loves him.
“Michael Jackson….touched an awful lot of people.”
Mostly little boys.
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I’d say it’s inappropriate, but it’s not like most anyone wasn’t thinking it. I’m classifying that as “blue humor.”
by Scott Christ on Jul 11, 2009 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions
I was a Prince fan myself
When I needed my funk/rock/r&b fix…. which wasn’t often. MJ was static from 1982 on.
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Seriously, Michael Jackson and no mention of Alexis Arguello and Arturo Gatti? This is fucking bizarre.
It’s not that I have a problem with them mentioning Jackson, but Jesus Christ. Finally they’re talking about Gatti.
by Scott Christ on Jul 11, 2009 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Finally!
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The crowd looks shocked that Gatti died
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Deaths come in three it seems… Jackson, Arguello,Gatti.
"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."
There have been like 10 prominent ones in the last week and a half
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What about Ed McMahon, Farrah Fawcett and Billy Mays, though? It’s been a rough period.
by Scott Christ on Jul 11, 2009 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Shit
Air McNair got popped this week too…. the hell?
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yeah I even forgot McNair
That one is goddamned bizarre.
by Scott Christ on Jul 11, 2009 10:22 PM EDT up reply actions
A woman scorned…
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I have to root for Agbeko since he's wearing a Rayhawk
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Well, I guess the tournament is pretty damn official now
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Lamest Michael Jackson tribute ever
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Thats fair but I wouldn’t say he’s the “hottest fighter in boxing”
by BabyBull1289 on Jul 11, 2009 10:26 PM EDT up reply actions
He’s up there, dude. He’s been ripping ass his last three fights. I was one of about 3% of people that took him to beat Mijares and he demolished him.
by Scott Christ on Jul 11, 2009 10:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Granted a robbery but Mijares just lost to Nehomar Cermeno
by BabyBull1289 on Jul 11, 2009 10:28 PM EDT up reply actions
He was still an overwhelming favorite against Darchinyan and called by many at the time a top 10 P4P fighter.
by Scott Christ on Jul 11, 2009 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions
I was huge on Mijares at that point too. I definitely thought he was top 10 p4p. That was an incredible performance by Vic. Not taking anything away from him there.
I just think Manny Pacquiao might be a little hotter than him as far as boxing goes.
by BabyBull1289 on Jul 11, 2009 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions
One of
He’s faced all top fighters for the last few years. That’s very rare in the little weights.
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It's pretty well established that it was a robbery
Vic scored like 3 knockdowns that the ref called slips
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It was a screwjob on the level of the Lorenzo/Soto fight.
"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."
I wouldn’t go that far. Gorres almost stopped him.
by BabyBull1289 on Jul 11, 2009 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh God. I didn’t realize that’s what he was going for. Definitely rooting for Vic now.
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No offense but how could you not get what that was?
by Scott Christ on Jul 11, 2009 10:26 PM EDT up reply actions
It is pretty impressive that in this day and age we can have some guys who weigh less than most women be the mainevent and have thousands of people to show up and cheer them on.
"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."
As far as I can tell, there are only three refs in Florida
No midget today though.
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Telis has a cute Greek accent
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I have no idea why this fight is in Florida
Don King loves putting on shows in Sunrise, but they never sell that well. Darchinyan has a built-in Armenian fan base in LA, yet they fight him in Florida.
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Gary Shaw said the same thing. Said it was Don’s call, but it should’ve been out west where there are Armenians.
by Scott Christ on Jul 11, 2009 10:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Ruben? WTF
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Agbeko-Darchinyan R1
Darchinyan darts over to Agbeko’s corner. Darchinyan with a popping right hook, Agbeko throws a left hook back. Neither lands flush. Lead right by Agbeko doesn’t quite get there. Hard body shot by Agbeko. And he tries to go back to the body immediately. Darchinyan shuffling, winding up like an idiot with that loaded left, and he gets clipped trying to throw that mess. Left hook Agbeko. Darchinyan unable to find Agbeko so far.
Right hand Agbeko. Darchinyan winding up on the lefts, throwing them, and Agbeko comes back with a THUDDING right that stings Vic! Darchinyan is back to REALLY wide, wild punching tonight. I mean good lord. It’s like a Darchinyan downgrade.
Agbeko swinging rights, Darchinyan throwing back as the round comes to an end. This is gonna get nasty. You can just feel it.
Agbeko 10-9
Agbeko 10-9
Darchinyan doesn’t seem settled down yet. Fighting even more wild than usual.
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Emmanuel Clottey?
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Okay fair enough
But E. Clottey is hardly an elite Ghanaian fighter the way Agbeko is.
Is it my imagination, or is Gus Johnson overly favoring Agbeko in his commentary?
Darchinyan has landed some bombs as well, but he only points out Agbeko’s.
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Darchinyan needs to work the body a little bit
He’s headhunting too much, and he’s not throwing any straight punches. He can do it, and he needs to.
Anyway, 20-18 Agbeko.
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But it was a close round.
I could see it either way.
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Agbeko-Darchinyan R2
Agbeko trying to time and counter Vic, and so far it looks pretty good. here they go! Agbeko wins that quick exchange on a nasty right at the end. Oh they are winging it now. These are hard, hard shots being thrown. Someone’s bound to get caught.
Left hook Agbeko. He’s landing the vast majority of the best, cleanest, hardest punches and really throwing Vic off. Left by Vic doesn’t make it in. He’s really wild again. This is not a good gameplan. The Darchinyan that mixed his amateur boxing with the destroyer personality in there was great.
Agbeko with a slippery little left hook, and another. Darchinyan did land a hard left in there though. Agbeko trying to work the body some. Vic just seems out of sorts so far, although he ended the second round pretty well.
Agbeko 10-9
Agbeko 20-18
Vic seems to have finally settled down
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It looks like Vic might have hurt his left wrist
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Did the ref just warn Vic not to throw body punches?
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Agbeko-Darchinyan R3
Agbeko slips trying to work around Darchinyan’s offense. Right hand Agbeko. Left hand Agbeko, Darchinyan clipped him a bit there. Darchinyan isn’t going so willy nilly this round. Darchinyan charges, gets Agbeko backed down. Agbeko throwing lead rights, trying to find Vic open. Left hook to the body by Agbeko. Quick double left from Vic. Slippery lead right by Agbeko again. This is turning into an intriguing fight, because I think Agbeko really has all the momentum. And Darchinyan is wobbled! here they go now!
Wow, Vic got hurt, because he responded really poorly there.
Agbeko 10-9
Agbeko 30-27
Agbeko 30-27
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Vic needs to throw more straight lefts. It's wide open for him. It's his best punch.
But he’s not throwing it.
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Agbeko-Darchinyan R4
Vic is coming for it now. Left hand landed and he put the bum’s rush on. Darchinyan throws a left, and their feet tangle and Agbeko trips again. Vicious lead left by Vic just misses. Agbeko looks a bit overwhelmed by a settled and aggressive Darchinyan, who is straight up headhunting. Left hook Agbeko. This is pure brawling and nothing more. This is as close to a streetfight as it gets at the top level of boxing. Darchinyan ends the round throwing with purpose again.
Darchinyan takes this round, but it wasn’t as wide as it looked like it might be early. Vic is having real trouble with Agbeko’s style. This feels like it could break either way right now.
Darchinyan 10-9
Agbeko 39-37
Darchinyan stole that one IMO
But I hope the camera didn’t hurt him. He banged his head on it at the end of the round.
39-37 Agbeko
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Agbeko-Darchinyan R5
Trading to start the round again. Darchinyan’s corner wants him to start pumping the jab, but he seems to have no intent on using that advice. Agbeko is really starting this round strongly. Darchinyan almost eats a night-ender of a right hand. Agbeko with a left hook. Darchinyan is not there tonight like he has been, and it’s because Agbeko is following a LOT of the Donaire blueprint, and also because Vic just isn’t doing what he has against Kirilov, Mijares and Arce.
Blood dripping from Darchinyan’s nose to go with the cut over his left eye.
They THUD on perfectly timed stereo punches. Agbeko going back to the body. This round is a turning point. Vic has to find some answers because Agbeko is, to put it simply, all up in his shit and starting to break him down. Here comes Darchinyan with big shots, but it doesn’t last. Agbeko breaks his rhythm.
Vic’s tiring. His nose might be broken, too.
Agbeko 10-9
Agbeko 49-46
Agbeko 49-46
But that was another close one.
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I thought that round was really big for Agbeko.
by Scott Christ on Jul 11, 2009 10:52 PM EDT up reply actions
I thought Vic landed the 2 or 3 best punches.
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Sorry but for all the right hands Johnson and Bernstein are saying landed, I think most have been glancing.
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They’re getting in though, and Darchinyan is really having trouble finding range, getting any rhythm, etc.
I’m pretty much in full agreement with Bernstein so far.
by Scott Christ on Jul 11, 2009 10:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Agbeko-Darchinyan R6
Agbeko sort of digs his shoulder into Darchinyan’s ribs coming in low, and it looked for a second like Darchinyan really felt that. Left hand by Vic. Agbeko goes back to the lead right to curb Vic’s enthusiasm. Lead right Darchinyan is a bit short. Lead right Agbeko again.
Hard right snaps Darchinyan’s head around. Looked like he didn’t see that one coming at all. Darchinyan is visibly frustrated at this point. His body language is telling the story. Uppercut to the body by Darchinyan, no response by Agbeko. Darchinyan ends the round flurrying.
Agbeko 10-9
Agbeko 59-55
Darchinyan round
But once again close. Agbako landed more punches, but they were grazing for the most part. Darchinyan landed about 3 or 4 solid punches, including a few that stole the round at the end.
58-56
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I have respect for all fighters, but if I were Tommy Kimmons and reffing a fight with fighters approximately a quarter of my size, I’d find it really hard not to patronize a little when the boxers act up.
That was a knockdown?
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Agbeko-Darchinyan R7
This might be well closer than I have it so far on the official cards, and a round the other way wouldn’t surprise me, but man, I just like the way Agbeko is fighting tonight and Vic isn’t looking sharp at all.
This fight is good, not great, and more interesting than good, even. Darchinyan is working OK in spurts, but he’s just not jabbing, he’s not working his way in, not hurting Agbeko, and he’s getting worn out.
And now it appears that Agbeko was knocked down — yup, standing eight. That’s a big turner. I think that might’ve been quite legitimate. I’m not sure though.
Well, Vic got back in this fight if he was down like on my card. I thought the round was really close until that, but I’m a guy that thinks knockdowns should really matter, and that’s a swing.
Darchinyan 10-8
Agbeko 67-65
Round went about a minute long apparently.
10-9 Darchinyan round
Not 10-8 Darchinyan, but also not 10-10 like Bernstein suggested. They just seem extremely biased towards Agbeko. Once again, Vic landed the stronger punches all round, like he’s been doing most rounds.
Anyway, 67-66 Agbeko
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I gave it 10-8 because Vic looked good in the fourth minute of the round.
by BabyBull1289 on Jul 11, 2009 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions
WTF Gus
He gushes over Agbeko’s “three punch combination”, all of which was blocked.
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Pretty clear Agbeko round
Though Darchinyan hurt him a bit in the final seconds
77-75 Agbeko
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Agbeko-Darchinyan R8
Agbeko blocked on an entire three punch combo, and Vic comes back. This is getting sort of grueling. Darchinyan FLINGS a wild left. That nearly took Agbeko’s head off. Vic is hurt it looks like. I thought he was just posturing, but he’s hurting. Agbeko has him backing down and trying to cover up.
Darchinyan getting wild again, and he’s caught with another shot. But there’s a straight left. I do not count Vic out at all, even though he’s looking far worse for wear. VERY low blow by Darchinyan, looked totally accidental but you never know. Agbeko doesn’t Clottey it up at least.
Agbeko FIRING AWAY AND THEY END THE ROUND FIRING BACK AND FORTH! Oh man.
Darchinyan looks hurt again after the bell. Man, I just think Agbeko is the better man tonight.
Agbeko 10-9
Agbeko 77-74
Agbeko-Darchinyan R9
Agbeko is just marching through Vic’s offense. Straight left by Darchinyan! That was a beauty. Agbeko’s chin is rock solid so far tonight. I mean he’s really been tagged a fair amount of times.
Two lefts by Darchinyan. Good round for him, about a minute left. Agbeko trying to throw arm punches to keep Vic away. Left hand by Darchinyan lands again. Wild brawl breaks out for a moment, then a wild hug. Darchinyan throws the video game left. He damn near jumped on that one. Darchinyan is going to the reserve tanks this round. He SLINGS one that almost puts Agbeko down right before the bell. Great round for Vic, IMO.
Darchinyan 10-9
Agbeko 86-84
Big round for Darchinyan
Agbeko still landed some decent shots, but that’s the first round where he looked like I expected him to look.
86-85 Agbeko
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All of press row has it 86-85 Agbeko
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Nah one was 85-85 I thought?
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Agebko seems to be running out of steam
Not moving nearly as much as he has been all fight
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So Agbeko is winning the round because Darchinyan is bleeding?
The commentating seems way off tonight.
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Totally agree. I was just going to comment on Bernsteain swinging from Agbeko’s balls.
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There are bad judges who think like that
by BabyBull1289 on Jul 11, 2009 11:12 PM EDT up reply actions
This fight is getting dir-tay
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Gus, for Christ's sake, the 10th isn't a Championship round
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Agbeko 96-94
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Agbeko-Darchinyan R10
These rounds are going to be big, obviously.
Darchinyan complaining about a headbutt. Seems like it really bothered him. Left hook by Agbeko was ugly but landed. Agbeko is looking gassed. Darchinyan is looking tired. Someone’s going to have to dig deep because this is a close, close fight.
Darchinyan’s right eye is busted open. He’s hurting. That cut isn’t good at all. Darchinyan basically throws Agbeko down. This is really getting brutal. These guys are hating each other right now.
Vic trying to seek and destroy, and he takes a right hook as the camera goes out of focus. Agbeko with right hands. They are leaving it out there. Not a pretty fight, not overly exciting, but just a war of attrition now. I love fights like this.
Darchinyan comes out of it looking ugly, but it was a ’butt, and frankly I thought he looked better.
Darchinyan 10-9
Agbeko 95-94
Cut is called to be an accidental headbutt
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According to Gus Johnson, Agbeko is pitching a shutout
Seriously, Vic is winning this round so far.
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Agbeko-Darchinyan R11
The cut is ruled an accidental headbutt. It’s pretty bad.
Darchinyan REALLY responds to a low blow or a shoulder to the ribs, and now shoves Agbeko away. Agbeko does a slow fall. This is gonna break down, man.
Darchinyan lunges with the left, Agbeko trying to time him. Both are landing sniper-type shots back and forth. At this point they really ARE swinging on Agbeko’s junk. I mean it’s gotten absurd. “He looks like he could go 25 rounds!” No, he absolutely does not.
At some point you have to wonder how much the back-and-forth cheapshots play into what this fight looks like in rounds 11 and 12. Darchinyan picking away with good shots as they tell us Agbeko is in control of the round. I really don’t think he is. Vic is putting in one hell of a rallying effort and it’s like it’s not even happening.
Darchinyan 10-9
104-104
I thought that was a wide Darchinyan round
I have no idea what the commentators are talking about. Darchinyan landed lots of square punches, Agbeko only landed glancing blows.
106-105 Agbeko
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BTW, Darch's cutman is doing a hell of a job
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Ugh
Darchinyan is acting like he has the fight in the bag
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Agbeko-Darchinyan R12
Lead right by Agbeko. Agbeko with a right downstairs. Agbeko is throwing the hands this round. Darchinyan needs to open it up. Another right lands for Agbeko. Darchinyan has half a round left to make a statement. Right now I think he’s losing the round.
Vic lunges, going to the body. Little late for that, but who knows I guess. Hit ‘em where it’s open. Agbeko trips again. Their feet have gotten tied up a ton. Vic’s just not throwing much this round — he might think he’s comfortably ahead, and I just don’t see that.
Agbeko avoids the Darchinyan lunge. 20 seconds.
Agbeko ties him up on another charge. Darchinyan trying to find ANY way to get at him, and Agbeko literally ties him up to end the fight and refuses to let him get away. I think he just sneaked this fight out.
Agbeko 10-9
Agbeko 114-113
I thought he did a fine job, other than the KD
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He let them fight, even as ugly as it got sometimes.
by Scott Christ on Jul 11, 2009 11:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Agbeko round at the end
I have it 115-113, but I could see either fighter winning. I wouldn’t complain either way, as long as it’s relatively close.
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AGBEKO-DARCHINYAN OFFICIAL DECISION
This is gonna be interesting.
116-111
114-113
114-113
JOSEPH AGBEKO VIA UNANIMOUS DECISION
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Good call. 116-111 was a little iffy, but a Darchinyan win would’ve been a travesty.
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I think that’s going a little far.
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No it's not.
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Darchinyan's gotta be kicking himself in the ass
If he comes out hard in the 12th, he wins the fight.
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Good point, he didnt throw a meaningful punch in the first 2 minutes.
by BabyBull1289 on Jul 11, 2009 11:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah
Vic’s 12th was horrible. That was the moment he could’ve won it, but he also could’ve won it earlier by A) adapting to the straight right or B) throwing A DAMN UPPERCUT once in a blue moon.
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Anyone got Cruz-Solis?
I don’t get ESPN deportes.
I'll check
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Si, lo tengo
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Cruz-Solis still hasn't started yet - about to announce the fighters
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Sweet. Who ya got? I like Solis but I think it could be very competitive.
by BabyBull1289 on Jul 11, 2009 11:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Probably Solis, but Cruz has surprised me lately
Guys seem to get thrown off by their opponent throwing 120 punches a round.
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Actually, it's Miranda-Ortiz coming on now
Cruz-Solis is still a ways off. Maybe the t-storms here will pass by the time it’s over, so I can walk the dog.
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Ortiz is making faces like he wants to eat Miranda
This is an IBF #2 eliminator. Lame.
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I got pumped when Dan Rafael said that ESPN Classic was going to carry this. Then, he retracted it.
Still trying to find it.
by BabyBull1289 on Jul 11, 2009 11:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Try ESPN360
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I finally get 360 on August 1st. Dont have it yet on my ISP
by BabyBull1289 on Jul 11, 2009 11:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Spanish-language TV is better
THe ring card girls are very prominent.
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And they tower over Ortiz
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Still gotta love Vic
Love his grit during the fight and honesty after the fight. His cutman did an amazing job, but even if he had not you know there was no quit in him. I felt the 12th round was really the deciding round and Vic just didn’t come out strong enough. Throughout the entire fight, the commentators really seemed to overstate what Agbeko was doing,
Solis-Cruz about to get underway
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Walking in now
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The fight is also on Azteca if you get that
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Holy shit
Cristobal Cruz has a whole bunch of people dressed like Aztecs with him, including a midget.
This is way, way over the top. This ring entrance rivals Naseem Hamed’s old ring entrances.
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Announcing the fighters now
About to start in 2 – 3 minutes.
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Couldn't they get a Spanish language announcer?
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Based on the crowd noise, the crowd very heavily favors Cruz. I don’t know if he’s local, but he certainly fights a lot more “Mexican”, standing toe to toe and throwing tons and tons of punches.
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Cruz-Solis Round 1
If the fight is anything like the walk-ins, this will be the fight of the night.
Ref: “LET’S THROW SOME THUNDER!!!”
Both fighters come out to the middle of the ring, a bit cautious. Uncharacteristically, Cruz isn’t throwing punches yet. Now here he comes. Solis throws a right hand, and Cruz lunges forward and throws 6 punches. Same thing happens again, only this time Cruz slips and falls forward, almost through the ropes. Solis is trying to box on the outside. He’s having no problem finding Cruz, but he’s only throwing one punch at a time, and Cruz is throwing 5 or 6 in return.
Cruz slips for the third time in the first round. Solis comes in and lands a punch, then grabs, but while he’s grabbing, Cruz throws three punches. Cruz lunges in wildly, hitting lots of air, but he just keeps coming and coming, and eventually he finds his target. Nice 4 punch combo from Cruz to close out the round.
Cruz 10-9
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Solis looked like he wanted a feeling out round, but Cruz didn't let him have it.
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Cruz-Solis Round 2
Marco Antonio Barrera is scoring the fight, taking the Harold Lederman role. He has it 10-9 Cruz.
The fighters come out to the middle of the ring, and Solis tried to land some accurate shots, but Cruz bum rushes in again and throws 4 or 5 punches. The first few in each of these exchanges misses, but he just doesn’t stop throwing until he lands with something.
Cruz lunging forward, almost running behind an outstretched right, and he lands a couple of shots. Solis lands a couple of nice uppercuts in return on the inside. Cruz is crude as hell, but he has his thing, and it seems to be working for him. Cruz now on the outside, and Solis misses with a couple of shots. Cruz rushes in again and throws a four punch combo to the body while running forward.
Solis seems completely bothered by Cruz’s style. This isn’t the same fighter Solis dominated a few years ago. Cruz rushes in, and Solis lands a nice shot to the body, and then ESPN cuts to commercial before the bell rings. Presuming there wasn’t much time left, that was another Cruz round.
20-18 Cruz
Barrera scored that one for Solis.
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Cruz-Solis round 3
Cruz bum rushes forward again. Solis tries to swing fairly wildly, and Cruz seems to have Solis in a little bit of trouble. Solis lands a nice right. Cruz comes in forward and throws three, while Solis simultaneously lands an uppercut. That’s the fight in microcosm, and probably will remain so. Cruz just throwing so many punches, but Solis being much more accurate, and landing the more effective shot. Cruz comes in and lands a nice straight left to the head of Solis. Solis backtracking now. Solis throws an uppercut that misses, and Cruz counters with six punches rushing in. SOLIS LOOKS HURT NOW!!!! HE JUST WON’T STOP THROWING PUNCHES!!! PROBABLY 30 PUNCHES, AND SOLIS FINALLY GOES DOWN.
There’s a huge gash over Solis’s eyebrow now. Not sure whether that was called a knockdown or a slip, but it sure looked like a knockdown to me. I suspect the cut was by a punch as well. Now Cruz gets dirty, and as Solis tries to throw a punch, Cruz does a judo style takedown on Solis. This round should have been over a minute ago, but it’s still going. Finally the bell rings.
10-8 round for Cruz, I think. I usually can understand Spanish well enough, but these guys are going too fast for me.
30-26 Cruz
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I guess I amend to 9-8 Cruz
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On replay, the cut was caused by a headbutt
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Barrera scored the third 9-8 for Solis
So I guess there were a couple deductions?
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Round 4
Cruz has slowed down considerably now. Solis is landing pretty much at will. Cruz, is starting to rush in, but not following it with punches in bunches. Solis is boxing on the outside, and just being much more accurate. Cruz is always a bit wild, so if he doesn’t follow up his first punch with 3 or 4 more, nothing really lands.
The cut on Solis’s head is open again, and it’s streaming down his face. I think they may be taking another point from Cruz, but I can’t tell for sure. The cut over Solis’s eye looks pretty bad – not long, but very deep.
Solis took this round pretty easily.
48-46 Cruz, 47-46 if there was a deduction there.
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OK, no deduction that last round
So I have it 48-46 Cruz.
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OOOO
That shot was right where you don’t want it to be
Round 5
The ref continually warning Cruz seems to be stopping him from bum rushing Solis. Solis nails Cruz with an unintentional looking low blow, and Cruz seems bothered by it.
Cruz falling in again, but Solis has him timed now. When he lunges in, Solis catches him so he can’t follow up with 3 more punches. Now Solis throws a VERY intentional looking low blow to Cruz, and Cruz is on the ground writing in pain.
I’m a bit surprised the ref didn’t dock a point for that one. A minute later, and Cruz is still in serious pain. I don’t think this is an acting job at all though. Solis should have been docked a point for that. Cruz fginally seems collected, and he comes and rushes in. Solis’s cut opens back up on a headbutt. Solis with the jab, Cruz rushes in and throws three back. Still, Cruz isn’t landing at all now, just hitting lots of air. Solis is still pretty accurate.
Solis round
57-56 Cruz. But I’m still shocked that no point was deducted from Solis.
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Eh, my scoring is off, I'll figure it out next round
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Round 6
Cruz is back to rushing in again, and he throws about 7 unanswered punches. Now, Solis is turning into his punches, and nailing Cruz in the face with punches of decent force. Solis seems to have finally settled down, and Cruz just isn’t throwing with the same volume that he was in the early rounds.
solis with a nice left hand combo, to the body and the head, and Cruz tries coming inside, but Solis grabs behind the head and throws at the same time. Solis is taking this fight over, but Cruz is still trying his damnedest to bother Solis. At the end of the round, Cruz nails Solis with a huge uppercut that seems to hurt Solis.
Solis round, but Cruz almost stole it.
56-56. That’s my score, and I’m sticking to it.
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Cruz has a style that looks good to the judges
by BabyBull1289 on Jul 12, 2009 12:35 AM EDT up reply actions
Barrera has it 56-54 Solis
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Round 7
Solis is backpedaling now, on his horse and trying to pepper Cruz, but Cruz is being fairly effective and Solis isn’t landing much. Solis tries to throw, and Cruz grabs him behind the head and nails him with two shots while he;s immobilized.
Solis slips on one of the ads, and we get a time out. The time off seems to energize Solis, who is coming forward again. Now we get another time out because Cruz’s glove has loose tape. This is just ridiculous. The ref has pretty much lost control of the fight. Both fighters get a well-deserved breather.
Halfway through the round, and time is back in. Cruz rushes forward and is throwing punches in bunches again. Solis lands a nice counter, but it doesn’t change the fact that Cruz landed three punches to Solis’s one. Cruz throwing lots of punches from all angles. Solis turns into a nice left hook to the body. Neither guy is really hurting the other one, but this is a war, and ANOTHER low blow by Solis! Cruz is writhing ont he floor again, and the ref STILL isn’t deducting a point. Cruz seems pissed as hell that Solis hasn’t gotten a deduction yet. He’s still hurting. Solis is getting away with murder with these low blows.
The ref gives Solis a warning. Big fricking whoop. There’s no way that three separate low blows right on the nutsack are all accidental. And seriously, all of them were full force shots right on the nutsack. Now he gets docked.
Anyway, that one was a Cruz round for me, but I could see it going either way.
10-8 Cruz round
66-64 Cruz
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Barrera has two 9-8 rounds
So there might have been a deduction I missed.
Round 8, and the fighters are out in the middle of the ring, where Cruz looks his weakest. Solis is jabbing from the outside, and Cruz seems seriously depleted, probably from all the low blows. Suddenly, Cruz is just standing there to be hit. This isn’t the Cruz I’ve seen in his last 5 or so fights. In a boxing match, Solis will beat Cruz every time. Cruz needs to make it a brawl to win. While he doesn’t have a big punch, he can land if he can throw a lot. Solis throws a shot that seems to stun Cruz a bit while he’s motioning to the ref. Now Cruz throws Solis down. This is one of the dirtier fights I can remember seeing lately. It makes Cotto-Clottey look clean.
Anyway, Cruz wasn’t throwing, and when Cruz isn’t throwing, he’s losing. Solis round, pretty clearly.
75-74 Cruz
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Yeah and i have no idea how it is going to be scored. Either guy could be up 4 points.
by BabyBull1289 on Jul 12, 2009 12:47 AM EDT up reply actions
Round 9
Solis digs in with a coiuple of nice shots to the body, but Cruz comes back with a couple of wild shots that land and seem to hurt Solis. Cruz appears to knock down Solis, but it’s called a slip. Now they’re back on the outside, where Solis can do well. Solis’s cut is bleeding pretty profusely again. Cruz is stalking but not throwing, but neither is Solis. Now he comes in and hrows a number of punches that land. He lunges in and lands a nice shot, but Solis lands two good counters. Now Solis is controlling again, landing shots without Cruz being too aggressive. Cruz falls in straight into one of Solis’s uppercuts. Cruz stalking, but missing. Solis, running, but not throwing. Solis lands a couple of nice shots at the end there that seem to hurt Cruz a little bit, and on that basis I’ll give him the round.
84-84
BTW, sorry about the typing. I don’t have a full-sized keyboard right now, and I’ve had a few drinks.
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ROund 10
Back on the outside, where Solis does well. Cruz lands a nice elbow square on Solis’s chin, but no call from the ref. Solis now bum rushes in for the first time all night, with Solis throwing an 8 punch flurry Cruz-style. Cruz now coming abck forward, but at the end of the punches Solis lands an effective punch to the body.
Both guys seem to be running out of gas a bit, and there’s a lot more holding going on now. Three times in a row, both guys hit each other at the exact same time. Solis with a digging shot to the body, but Cruz is a machine. He just keeps coming forward. They’re up against the ropes. CRUZ HAS SOLIS HURT! NOW SOLIS COUNTERS AND THAT STUNS CRUZ! Cruz comes back strong the last couple seconds with Solis up against the ropes, sealing the round for him.
I agree, this is a halfway impossible fight to score.
But I personally have it 94-93 Cruz.
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Round 11
Solis dancing on the outside, landing a punch to the body, but missing with 4 more. Cruz goes back to bullrushing, landing all four punches he throws. Solis seems a bit bothered again, pushing Cruz down from behind his head. Some more holding when Cruz gets inside, but Cruz is the one throwing and landing all of the punches now. Solis with another borderline low blow.
A bit of wrestling in the middle of the ring, and Solis throws a few good shots to the body. Cruz has slowed down a lot in the last 30 seconds. Now Cruz gets it back, and comes inside, throwing a bunch of weak shots that have littel effect. Cruz wings a wils left hook that hits air, and Solis counters with a nice left hook to Cruz’s body. this is probably the hardest round to score of the whole fight, in a fight where most of the rounds are hard to score. Solis was much more accurate, Cruz had the workrate, Solis won the second half, Cruz won the first half. I’m going to split the difference and call that one 10-10.
104-103 Cruz
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Barrera has Solis up by 2, going into the final round
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Round 12
Cruz Comes in and NAILS Solis with a left hand that momentarily stuns his opponent. Cruz throws a couple of shots that miss, then Solis comes back with a nice counter, and then grabs Cruz. A lot of tying up now. Cruz gets on the inside, but Solis punishes him to the body. Solis is coming out like he wants to TAKE this fight. He;s as aggressive as he’s been all night, and it’s not like he’s been shying away from contact.
Cruz is just about toast. He’s throwing some punches, but they have NOTHING on them. Solis, ont he other hand, is punishing the body. Cruz comes inside to throw, but Solis nails him right back with a good uppercut. 20 seconds left, and Cruz is plowing forward, trying to theow, but he has nothing left. SOLIS NAILS HIM!!! CRUZ’S LEGS ARE JELLO!!! 10 SECONDS LEFT, CAN HE STAY ON HIS FEET? SOLIS POUNDS, POUNDS AWAY, BUT THE BELL RINGS AND THE FIGHT IS OVAH!
Very clear Solis round, possibly a 10-8 round. However, I score it 10-9, and I have it a DRAW.
This is the fifth fight I’ve watched tonight, and this was quite clearly the fight of the night.
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Evidently there were way more deductions than I could decipher on the Spanish language telecast
If I had made all the proper deductions, I would have had it 112-111 Cruz rather than 113-113.
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Barrera has Solis winning 113-110
The scoring could be really wide here and be completely legitimate. Each fighter only clearly won 3 rounds, and there were deductions galore, plus a knockdown.
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OFFICIAL DECISION
113-110
113-110
113-111
unanimous decision
Cristobal Cruz
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You know, you got to feel good about Cristobal Cruz. I remember when he was being called a random journeyman fighting Zahir Raheem (in a fight that I won’t say he was robbed in, but the judges were certainly judging on autopilot). He got to where he is the ultimate hard way, and has worked his ASS off to make it more than a one hit wonder.
Tip of the hat.
Good for him man, guy came in as a 7-1 dog against Mashaba and just took his life to the next level with that beautiful performance.
I still think Mashaba won that fight though
Cruz outworked him to death, but he landed the clean, effective punches and had Cruz stunned a few times.
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