Sunday Night Notes: Vazquez-Marquez IV, Sturm-Wright being discussed

by Scott Christ on Jul 12, 2009 11:46 PM EDT in Boxing News Analysis

Handlers for Israel Vazquez and Rafael Marquez are discussing a fourth fight between the two Mexican sluggers for an October pay-per-view in Las Vegas.

The continuing rumors of a fourth fight between Mexican warriors Israel Vazquez and Rafael Marquez are heating up once again. Michael Rosenthal reports that the current discussions are for an October 17 pay-per-view fight from Las Vegas, and that the Marquez side has rejected a deal that would give Vazquez -- who won two of three in their already legendary rivalry -- a 60-40 split. A deal could be reached at 50-50, they say.

I continue to have conflicting feelings about it, but the two are going to fight, so why not fight each other? There's still unfinished business there in some ways, it's still one of the most can't-miss possible matchups in the sport, and it's almost surely the most money either of them are going to get to fight this year. Marquez returned to active competition in May with a third round stoppage of Jose Francisco Mendoza. Vazquez still hasn't fought since their last grueling battle in March 2008, but has been medically cleared to return. The fight would be at 126 pounds, up from 122 for their previous three.

At this point, I say bring it on. You're damn right I'll pay to view this one. They never let me down before.

Rosenthal also says that talks have started to match WBA middleweight titlist Felix Sturm against Winky Wright. Richard Schaefer is helping with the deal, and says that Winky is totally willing to go to Germany for the fight, which would take place early next year or perhaps late this year. Wright also would like to fight Kelly Pavlik, but for whatever reason his first choice is Sturm. Golden Boy was considering putting Wright on the Mayweather-Marquez undercard for September 19, but since Wright is getting married on August 1, it wasn't doable for him.

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Im not big on the idea of a 4th fight between Vazquez an Marquez. The 3 fights were amazing and the 3rd ended in dramatic fashion. If Marquez comes away with a win in the 4th then there would need to be a 5th to have an overall winner. Im more worried the more we see them against each other the less thrilling the fights would seem. Plus if they went at it 2 more times they would be ruined as fighters after the wars they cant help but put on.

"Good, so it can’t go any deeper." - Arturo Gatti after being told he was cut to the bone

by sigidy on Jul 13, 2009 1:59 AM EDT reply actions

My thinking is basically this: They’re gonna fight, there’s not a ton for them, and given the wear and tear on their bodies, younger, fresher fighters that can punch probably really put them in the hurtbox early. They either fight each other or become journeymen, I’m afraid, and I’d rather they just war with each other, I think.

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by Scott Christ on Jul 13, 2009 2:03 AM EDT up reply actions

I want them to make their money

But a big part of me doesn’t want them to ruin a trilogy that already has a perfect ending.

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by Brickhaus on Jul 13, 2009 8:10 AM EDT up reply actions

Same with me. I get what SC is saying by they arnt finished with boxing and have something to offer but after what they been through someone can come along and realy damage them. Maybe 1 or 2 more fights and see how they are

"Good, so it can’t go any deeper." - Arturo Gatti after being told he was cut to the bone

by sigidy on Jul 14, 2009 1:49 AM EDT up reply actions