Kelly Pavlik bashes Showtime, super middleweight tournament
Middleweight world champion Kelly Pavlik took some shots at Showtime's super middleweight tournament when speaking to The Vindicator's Joe Scalzo recently. They were quick and to the point:
"Why would I be in that tournament when I’m a middleweight?" he said. "They never asked me and I never wanted to join.
"Let them beat each other up. Let them ruin their careers for peanuts."
This is exactly the sort of thing that this tournament will hopefully play a part in fixing. This is exactly the sort of "protect me and my record" talk that has produced countless uninteresting fights, useless mandatories, worthless title belts, and unmemorable "champions" in the last however many years of boxing.
This sort of idea is why MMA has so easily leapfrogged boxing to become the No. 1 combat sport in the States.
It's not Kelly's fault. Really, he's saying what he should be expected to say, what many good businessmen/fighters would say about this tournament. He's conditioned to think this way because it's the way he's been brought along in the sport. Too many fighters -- warriors, runners, all of them -- are so concerned with their own bottom line that it hurts the sport on the whole, and they have to be concerned with it because it's all they really have.
What I'm talking about is the "Let them ruin their careers for peanuts" bit. The money coming into those fights is good. It's not absolute top level, but where is Kelly Pavlik about to make so much more? HBO offered $2 million for a Pavlik-Felix Sturm fight. That's nothing. HBO declined Pavlik-Rubio and the scrapped Pavlik-Mora. It looks as though Pavlik will fight on PPV again in October, since there is literally no opponent I can think of off the top of my head that would get Pavlik back on HBO.
Great fighters lose when they fight great fighters. It happens. It has happened throughout the history of boxing, still happens when guys take risks, and happens all the time in MMA. Georges St. Pierre and Anderson Silva have lost fights and are regarded as probably the two best pound-for-pound fighters in mixed martial arts. They are main eventers in UFC.
You get return business -- and it's about business, right? -- because you do something interesting. Kelly Pavlik was a guy with a ton of momentum when he beat Jermain Taylor, but it has withered and died. Beating Taylor again didn't do the business hoped for on PPV, and his follow-up fight with Gary Lockett was a total dud in every way. He then tanked on PPV with Bernard Hopkins and has only wrangled and fought Rubio since then.
What's he going to do that tops any single matchup in that tournament? His unnecessary bashing of Showtime ("They’re going to burn their whole career and for what? Nobody watches Showtime.") is also highly questionable. What's HBO got going that's better? And when does he think he'll be back on the network?
Boxing has to get the sport and its fighters away from this overly protected nonsense. If Kelly Pavlik had gone out and fought Arthur Abraham and lost a good fight, we'd still want to see him again next time. There is not a single man near the top of the pound-for-pound lists that has not lost a fight, unless you include Floyd Mayweather Jr., whose entire career has been ridiculed by a large portion of fans because he doesn't take any chances.
Does Pavlik want to be that guy? I get business, I get money, I get what he's saying. But is Pavlik just money or is he a fighter? Is he looking for a legacy? Is he looking to be remembered as a guy that fought all comers?
I find this to be a bit of a PR boner for Kelly and Team Pavlik. None of it sounds good at all, and some of it sounds a bit like jealousy. The boxing world is ecstatic about this tournament, and right now I dare say few people are too interested in what Kelly Pavlik does next. It's not all his fault. He can't make his horrible weight class better than it is.
But he's attacking something that deserves the utmost praise. Getting those six guys to agree to fight for these "peanuts" and improve the sport for the sake of the fans and every single one of those fighters (at least in my view) was no easy task. It's same ol', same ol' for Pavlik right now, while six other guys are actually competing with one another to make a bigger splash.
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Bravo!
Take a bow sir!
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Great article.
totally in agreement
Show a bit more class, KP
We're all given some sort of skill in life. Mine just happens to be beating up on people. (Sugar Ray Leonard)
Kelly Pavlik is a classless over rated punk to be honest.
His logic is this tournament sucks due to the lack of money involved?!
How about this tournament is good because even though the amount of money involved isn’t very high it will be entertaining to see such highly rated fighters have a go at each other to determine who is top dog?
Kelly Pavlik is the Middleweight version of Floyd Mayweather.
Full of shit and the first time he steps into the ring with a competent opponent not hand picked for him he’s going to get torn a new asshole.. oh wait I forgot Bernard Hopkins already did that.
Nobody cares about Kelly Pavlik anymore to be frank hes a coward. He fought a good fighter in Bernard Hopkins and we all saw what happened there and then his next fight was a joke.
Arum should just drop him. Say what you will about Cotto but the man has balls and has been in there with some good fighters.
Is it me …
… or does Pavlik get less sympathetic every time he opens his mouth?
“Why would I want to be in that?” Uh, I dunno. Because that’s where Abraham, Froch, Kessler, etc. are and you want to test yourself against the best fighters out there?
For the competition? For glory? For honor?
Why would you want to be a fucking boxer if something like that doesn’t appeal to you, is the real question.
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by The Kittitas Kid on Jul 15, 2009 1:29 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
"Why would you want to be a fucking boxer if something like that doesn’t appeal to you, is the real question."
Amen.
Boxing is the beginning of all sports. I'm willing to bet that the first sport was a man against another man in a fight. (Omar Epps)
I guess Pavlik does not want to be remembered as a guy who took on all comers. Boo to that. I’d much rather cheer for a guy who’s, say, 20-5 with a record that reads like Who’s Who in boxing than a 25-0 fighter whose opponents have been picked to lose to him.
by Monday Morning Martial Artist on Jul 15, 2009 2:11 PM EDT reply actions
Pavlik knows he'd get blasted and he's now just trying to grind out a living against scrubs
If somebody can punch back against Kelly he’ll fall fast and hard. When was the last time JT knocked down anybody BUT Pavlik???
His career was over the minute Bernard Hopkins ate him up and shit him out.
Gimme 1 round!
Also
Fedor is the #1 PfP fighter in MMA. A pudgy 225-230 lb HW that smashes anyone, normal man or UFC champion alike, while regularly being outweighed by anywhere from 20 – 100 lbs.
30-1 and his loss is bullshit
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Jul 15, 2009 9:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh and BTW KELLY
When there is a deep division with a definitive top dog… Rematching that champion is big money. The type you’ll never see in your career. Sorry loser
Gimme 1 round!
great post. couldn’t agree one more. all i know is boxing will ALL be talking about this tourney, and the best pavlik will be able to do is talk about how it’s worthless….someone (at least 1-2) will come out of that tourney with some good money to be made in the aftermath. period. and pavlik will look the worse for ducking it. period. i used to be a beginning to be a believer when it came to pavlik….i think he lost a bit of shine/self confidence when B-Hop schooled him.
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by theworldsoldestsport on Jul 15, 2009 10:55 PM EDT reply actions

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