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Wednesday Morning Notes: No evidence in Pavlik assault claim

It looks like middleweight champ Kelly Pavlik didn't punch a 45-year old man in the groin after all. (via media3.vindy.com)

It looks like middleweight champ Kelly Pavlik didn't punch a 45-year old man in the groin after all. (via media3.vindy.com)

WFMJ is reporting that there is "no evidence" to support a 45-year old man's claim that middleweight world champion Kelly Pavlik punched him in the groin, which is hardly a surprise. Ronald Cappitte was claiming that Pavlik and his trainer Jack Loew had gone downtown to Chinatown on him, which truthfully seemed like an attempt to grab some money or fame from a guy whose name has been in the rumor sheets with some unseemly tales in the past.

It seemed odd to me right away that Kelly Pavlik, the middleweight champion of the world, would choose to punch a 45-year old man in the gonads for saying "hello" to him when he could just as easily and probably more satisfyingly have punched him in the face, but face bruising is hard to fake with police and smashing your face into a wall to simulate a Pavlik right to the kisser would hurt and potentially give you a real injury. It was a B.S. story from the start, and now it's a non-story.

Some of the comments on the original story we linked to yesterday were interesting. I know nothing about the local scene in Youngstown, but apparently the bar this non-incident took place in is hardly your "high class" joint. Kelly Pavlik doesn't seem like a martini bar kind of guy to me, so that's not surprising. Someone in the comments there called Cappittee a "slumlord," which is no accusation from me as I don't know the man, and another person says the two (Pavlik and Cappittee) know each other "quite well." I'll let the locals say for sure, but there's a taste of Youngstown for you.

You know, Pavlik's last year or so has not been good in the press. I think he's one of those guys that wants to not let fame change him, wants to go to the same bars, hang out with the same folks he hung out with on the way up, but it's looking more and more like the reality is that Pavlik needs to stay out of the spotlight as much as humanly possible in Youngstown, and maybe even consider moving. I know people have their roots and they're proud of where they came from, but the Youngstown that is presented to us by the media is hardly a pretty picture, and it keeps looking like people -- not all of them, mind you, but an important minority -- are going to try to take advantage of Pavlik's fame there. He himself has said recently that every time he does anything, it's in the news there. That seems like a lot stress to me, way more than he'd have even living in New York or something.

  • Former 154-pound titlist Verno Phillips hasn't fought since his loss to Paul Williams last year, and he says he's now a free agent in a press release. Phillips is/was promoted by Banner Promotions, and his team says that their attempts to get Verno back in the ring over the last eight months have gone unanswered despite the fact that Banner is running shows frequently. Phillips is 39 years old, so the clock is ticking on the remainder of his career.
  • The funeral for Vernon Forrest will be held Monday in Atlanta, and is open to the public.
  • The man who landed the 1-2 combination on Pancho Moncivais in Mississippi on Saturday is Bobby O'Bannon, and the young fighter says he's "had nightmares every night." When fighters die in combat, it's awful for them and their families, obviously, but often overlooked is the effect it has on the guy he was facing. Bobby doesn't plan to stop boxing, though. In fact, he plans to keep going in Moncivais' memory: "I don't know how I'm going to do it. But if I don't continue fighting, the legacy of Poncho is dead. He died because of what happened in the ring with me, but maybe people can look at me and say, 'He died, but Bobby won a championship in his name, or Bobby did this or inspired this.' And even if my boxing career turns out to be nothing — at least I gave it a shot for him, in his memory. That can be something that keeps me going, I think." Best wishes, Bobby.
  • WEC featherweight champ Miguel Torres has thoughts on Floyd Mayweather Jr. that I'm going to avoid commenting on because I'm a huge fan of Torres' but find the sniping on both sides to be kinda dumb.

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It might be ‘kinda dumb’, but I’d love to see Floyd accept that challenge. Mainly because I don’t think he can win, but it would be fun anyway.

How do the weight classes work in MMA? I know they differ a bit. Is an MMA featherweight like Torres in the same weight region as a welterweight boxer?

Boxing is the beginning of all sports. I'm willing to bet that the first sport was a man against another man in a fight. (Omar Epps)

by Chaos100 on Jul 29, 2009 10:49 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Featherweight in MMA caps at 145 pounds, so yeah it’s basically boxing’s welterweight.

by SC on Jul 29, 2009 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Let's get it on then!!!

Yeah.

YEAH!!!!

Boxing is the beginning of all sports. I'm willing to bet that the first sport was a man against another man in a fight. (Omar Epps)

by Chaos100 on Jul 29, 2009 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Bantamweight 135
Featherweight 145
Lightweight 155
Welterweight 170
Middleweight 185
Light Heavyweight 205
Heavyweight 265

Keep firing Assholes!

Thanks to Bisping's reenactment of the Battle of Cowpens, walla walla walla I'm an idiot.

by Ubernoober on Jul 29, 2009 7:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Also, Bobby O’Bannon might have trouble finding an opponent now…

Who wants to fight a man that killed his last opponent with a right cross?

I once played competitive cricket (for the Americans reading this, that’s like baseball, but you can hit the ball in any direcion, and even with this amazing propensity for spontaneous and amazing feats of skill that will shock and delight, still manages to be really boring), and I was fielding really close to the bat. The bowler decided to give the ball some air, and the batsman smashed the ball right into the middle of my chest. The doctors said that if I had been hit 2cm away from where it hit me, in any direction, I’d be dead now.

Even though I only suffered a broken sternum and severely bruised ribs, the guy who hit me never played cricket again, saying that he thought he’d killed me, and that he couldn’t face that again. I wouldn’t be surprised at all if Bobby O’Bannon, despite his proclamations now, has some degree of hesitation before pulling the trigger again (poor choice of metaphor maybe….). There will almost certainly be something in the back of his mind that certainly won’t help him, even if any hindrance is only very minor (which I don’t believe it would be, for what it’s worth).

It would be an unreasonable and irrational person that would blame O’Bannon for Moncivais’ death, but that probably won’t stop him from blaming himself deep down.

Boxing is the beginning of all sports. I'm willing to bet that the first sport was a man against another man in a fight. (Omar Epps)

by Chaos100 on Jul 29, 2009 11:04 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

The Pavlik story was laughable from the beginning. First of all, if Pavilk played the nutcracker suite on some dude’s “ungirded loins”, there’s a good chance of some real serious, permanent junk-related injury. If he wasn’t being wheeled around in a chair sounding like Lindsay Lohan, then chances are he made the whole thing up. It’s not like he claimed Paulie Malignaggi lowblowed him.

Pavlik probably does need to move on. When you come from this kind of neighborhood, there is always a point when all that adoration you get early on turns into jealousy, scheming, shakedowns etc. Sad but true. It’s fine being proud of where you came from, but for a boxer with his kind of success, it should be about where you’re going.

"This fight'll be the nastiest thing you'll ever see. I been sober for six weeks, and that makes me vicious."
-- Randall 'Tex' Cobb

by jrok on Jul 29, 2009 12:12 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

If he wasn’t being wheeled around in a chair sounding like Lindsay Lohan, then chances are he made the whole thing up. It’s not like he claimed Paulie Malignaggi lowblowed him.

I actually spat coffee over my laptop when I read this. You owe me, jrok… :)

Boxing is the beginning of all sports. I'm willing to bet that the first sport was a man against another man in a fight. (Omar Epps)

by Chaos100 on Jul 29, 2009 8:00 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

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