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Questionably Refereed Fights

When the third man in the ring does his job well, the spectator shouldn't even really know they're there - they should be making sure nothing dirty happens, and facilitating the flow of the fight.  Here are a few prime examples of where the referee wasn't doing their job. And please - feel free to add your own in the comments.  There are so many of these out there that I'm not mentioning that are poorly done for so many different reasons (e.g., every Laurence Cole fight, Joe Cortez not letting Ricky Hatton fight on the inside, etc.) that I can't possibly name all of them.  And I know there were a few old, old fights that I just don't know well with all kinds of horrible things happening, especially in the old Vegas fights where local politicians and mob bosses with no experience were often the referees.

Juan Martin Coggi vs. Eder Gonzales - This fight had one of the strangest sequences ever.  Coggi knocked down Gonzales and appeared to be cruising on his way to victory.  As Coggi backed Gonzzales into the ropes, Gonzales came back with a HUGE right hook over the top, knocking Coggi down like a tree.  Coggi didn't get up until about 15, and even then, he was bouncing off the ropes like a pinball.  Gonzales was then knocking the snot out of Coggi in the corner, when the referee inexplicably broke them up and didn't give Coggi a count.  At that point, Coggi still couldn't stand, but the referee didn't intervene.  The referee then hugs Coggi, as if the fight is over, and Gonzales starts celebrating that he just won the championship, but the fight isn't over!  Then Coggi's corner gets up on the ring apron, which should have been an automatic disqualification (notwithstanding the fact that Coggi had already been knocked out twice), the time stopped for about 30 seconds for Coggi to recover, and the fight continued.


Arthur Abraham vs. Edison Miranda I - Here's another example of home field advantage, and poor refereeing led to a rematch.  Edison Miranda was deducted a total of five points in this fight, two of them on ticky tacky calls, but that's not the big part.  In the fourth round, Miranda broke Abraham's jaw.  Abraham, tough guy that he is, fought on with the fairly gruesome injury, and continued to come forward.  In the fifth round, Miranda nailed Abraham with an unintentional headbutt.  It was a legitimate butt, but didn't really buzz Abraham.  Despite this, the referee Randy Neumann gave Abraham the full five minutes to recover, all the while letting both the doctors and his corner come up on the apron to treat Abraham's broken jaw.  At that point, there were really three legitimate options - Abraham DQ because his corner was on the apron during a round, doctor's stoppage because Abraham was unable to continue, or the doctor checks out the injury, lets Abraham continue and the fight moves on without serious recovery time.  Instead, none of those things happened, and Abraham was given lots of time to recover and the fight continued.  Abraham won by controversial decision, in part because of the deductions, but then cleared things up in a rematch, knocking out Miranda in 4.

Julio Cesar Chavez vs. Meldrick Taylor I - This was actually a well-refereed fight, but the ending is too controversial not to be mentioned here. Taylor was beating Chavez pretty soundly in the fight, although Chavez had been beating Taylor up to the body all night.  Taylor's corner gave him some all-time stupid advice before the 12th, telling him he needed the knockout.  Rather than playing safety first and cruising to a decision victory, Taylor came out, guns blazing, and got in a firefight.  In the last 30 seconds, knowing he needed a knockout, Chavez went whole hog, wailing with bombs and eventually backing Taylor into a corner, knocking him down with 16 seconds left to go.  Taylor got up by the count of 7, but didn't take a step forward or lift his gloves.  Referee Richard Steele looked in his eyes, and later said he saw a glassy look like Taylor didn't know where he was.  With 4 seconds left and Taylor otherwise ensured of a victory, Steele waved off the fight, giving Chavez the KO victory.  Taylor was never the same after that fight.  While he was the better fighter in the ring that night, he took a ton of damage, enough to effectively end his career as a top fighter.


Sven Ottke vs. Robin Reid - The referee probably snatched victory away from Reid this night, ensuring that Ottke could keep his VERY questionable undefeated record.  First, Reid very clearly knocked down Ottke with a hard right to the head.  The referee called it not a knockdown, and the fight continued. Then the referee kept warning Reid for leading with his head, when it was Ottke who was pulling Reid into headlocks.  Then, the referee actually deducted a point from Reid for - landing a punch!  He said the deduction was for a headbutt, but there was no butt, only two right hands that landed.  Reid ended up losing by two points.


Danny Williams vs. Konstantin Airich - This was just one of the strangest fights out there, period.  The referee deducted points when there was no foul.  The referee called no knockdown when there was a knockdown.  The referee called knockdowns when there was no knockdown.  The referee complained to the fighters that they were actually throwing too many punches.  One of the rounds got shortened by over a minute because the promoter rang the bell when his fighter was in trouble.  Despite the referee doing everything in his power to ensure an Airich victory, Williams was able to score the knockout.  Here's Scott's full post on this one, which goes into all the shenanigans in detail.


Lucian Bute vs. Librado Angrade I - A bad job refereeing, but in my opinion, the right call.  You already know this one, but here's the video:


Sergio Martinez vs. Kermit Cintron -This 'draw' was one of the worse robberies in history.  Martinez knocked down Cintron with a big right hand.  The referee counted to ten while Cintron was on the ground, but Cintron got up before the referee waved off the fight.  Still, the rules say that at the count of ten, the fight is over.  Cintron then proceeded to complain to the referee that he was knocked down by a headbutt (on replay, it was clearly a punch, and a very good one at that).  The fight continued, even though the referee made it to 10.  In the end, Martinez only made it out with a draw in a fight where he clearly won at least 8 rounds and scored a knockdown.  One of the only fights I can think of where the fighter was robbed by both the referee and the judges at the end of the fight.

Feel free to add some of your own in the comments, especially with respect to older fights.  It just seems like there's been a lot of very questionable refereeing lately, but I'm sure this is nothing new.

Poll
What was the worst refereed fight?
Coggi-Gonzales
20 votes
Chavez-Taylor
25 votes
Abraham-Miranda I
7 votes
Williams-Airich
40 votes
Martinez-Cintron
20 votes
Bute-Andrade
15 votes
Other (please let us know in the comments)
5 votes

132 votes | Poll has closed

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About year ago… Joe Cortez the Humberto Soto fight.

"Penelosa is not human." -Max Kellerman on Gerry Penelosa during the Juan Manuel Lopes-Gerry Penelosa bout.

by Sickle on Aug 15, 2009 12:01 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

ugh

Forgot about that one. That was just another truly pitiful call.

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by Brickhaus on Aug 15, 2009 4:09 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

what was even worse was Cortez’s explanation that he was hit while he was down… if that was the case… why didn’t Manny get DQ’ed vs Marquez in the 3rd knockdown in their first fight.

"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."

by Zocalo on Aug 15, 2009 5:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

recently what comes to mind is segura canchilla II, i was real excited for that fight and the ref screwed that fight all up …

by 3zilla on Aug 15, 2009 1:25 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

“He was out on his feet” …the quote from Wright…

Yeah… that is when you are suppose to stop the fight… fucking idiot.

Nevermind the fact that he was being held by the ropes various times, he didn’t have his hands up, or the long b/s long count…

"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."

by Zocalo on Aug 15, 2009 5:53 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

THOUGHTS

Watcing these it’s a tie between the COGGI fight in which he should have lost due to a stoppage and the WILLIAMS fight where there is a clear bias.

If you watch the BENN-BARKLEY fight you can see some awful referring by Carlos Padilla, I think that was his name. Benn clearly hist Barkley when he is down and does not get penalized. Overall, Padilla looks clueless in this exciting 1 Round fight which should have gone on longer.

by JasonTryp on Aug 15, 2009 6:17 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

the coggi fight is legend and just criminal. no two ways about it. no excuse at all for the refs behavior.

richard steels screw job on poor meldrick got my vote though. the stopping was absurd.

by sonofapsycho on Aug 15, 2009 6:34 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I think it’s pretty sick that Taylor-Chavez got 23 votes. I suspect Brickhaus was just trying to stir up trouble… whatever.

Obviously Williams-Airich was the most grotesque refereeing job listed here, followed closely by Ottke-Reid and Coggi-Gonzales. But Perez still wins handily. Watching that fight it was difficult to even imagine that he had ever ref’d a bout in his life, professional or otherwise.

One problem I have with this article is that the refs aren’t mentioned by name (except, for some reason, Richard Steele!). Really, bad refs, like bad judges, should always be called out by name, so that we know them the next time they pop-up.

Not listed here is Charlie Daggert, who ref’d Beau Jack vs Ike Williams back in 1948. If you took all the late stoppages you can think of in history and added them together, it still wouldn’t be as disgraceful as that one. The beating in the corner goes on so long Williams himself tries to stop it at one point. This would also quality as one of the worst corners in history, for failing to throw in the towel.

"This fight'll be the nastiest thing you'll ever see. I been sober for six weeks, and that makes me vicious."
-- Randall 'Tex' Cobb

by jrok on Aug 17, 2009 11:02 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Not exactly stirring up trouble

But it’s a pretty notorious one. I actually think Steele did a good job in that fight and is otherwise a good referee. He had to make a tough call at the end of the fight, and I think that the ending would have been controversial no matter which way he ended it.

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by Brickhaus on Aug 17, 2009 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Okay, but it’s interesting that Steele is the only referee you mention by name. Is there a reason for that? And since you mention that you think the think Steele did a good job in the fight, and you (correctly, in my opinion) mention that Taylor had his prime brutally beaten out of him that night, why is it so questionable?

If it’s just about people “questioning” these refereeing jobs regardless of actual merit, why not mention Jersey Joe’s handling of Ali-Liston? To this day people “question” that count. What about Arthur Mercante Jr.’s handling of Whitaker-Huertado? Does “Lucian Bute vs. Librado Andrade” really rise to that level? It was absolutely sickening how many punches Junior let him take while helpless. No mention of these bouts, though, because Taylor-Chavez is one of those internet things that everyone can scream and beat their chest about.

"This fight'll be the nastiest thing you'll ever see. I been sober for six weeks, and that makes me vicious."
-- Randall 'Tex' Cobb

by jrok on Aug 17, 2009 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Taylor-Chavez was controversial long before the internet.

by SC on Aug 18, 2009 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

No kidding. But with the rise of the internet you now have a bunch of young men who never even saw the fight but who somehow have an opinion about it, and people who have never seen the toll the fight took on Mel Taylor up close.

If Taylor saw an ambulance driving down a street, he might think it was Santa Claus driving his sleigh. He is brain damaged, and it’s because of that fight.

"This fight'll be the nastiest thing you'll ever see. I been sober for six weeks, and that makes me vicious."
-- Randall 'Tex' Cobb

by jrok on Aug 18, 2009 10:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

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