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Wednesday Evening Notes: The Ballad of Zab Judah & Matthew Hatton

Zab Judah might be fighting on September 19, or he might not. But he won't be fighting Matthew Hatton.

Zab Judah might be fighting on September 19, or he might not. But he won't be fighting Matthew Hatton.

As mediocre a fight as it was in most respects, the story of the now-canceled fight between Zab Judah and Matthew Hatton is, I think, pretty interesting. For now, all signs point to Hatton fighting Lovemore N'dou for the IBO welterweight title instead of facing Judah in a much bigger fight, but Hatton isn't 100% sure either:

"The last few weeks have been absolutely ridiculous but until I see Lovemore's name on a contract, I'm not taking anything for granted.

"The fights just seemed to be falling apart one by one while I've been out running and training."

Let's recap this saga:

  1. Judah and Hatton agree to meet on the July 18 Mayweather-Marquez undercard. Judah, now a Mayweather Promotions fighter, is in some ways getting a favor from a friend/promoter, but it's a nice setup; if Judah wins, he can call out Ricky Hatton for a money fight. If Matthew wins, Judah's career is pretty much over.
  2. July 18 card is scrapped thanks to Mayweather's alleged rib injury. This is no fault of Judah or Hatton, but they have to give up their paydays, too.
  3. Hatton begins talks with Lovemore N'dou. They fall apart.
  4. Judah-Hatton is rescheduled for Sept. 19, the new Mayweather-Marquez date.
  5. Judah starts backing down, asking for the fight to be at 140 pounds, a weight he hasn't fought at in years, and one where Matthew has never fought.
  6. For whatever it's worth, Judah is reported to barely be in training at all, partying in Vegas. Please note that Lennox Lewis once said that Vegas would be good for Judah because unlike New York, there are no night clubs out there. The same source says that Judah told him that he'd "love" to fight Manny Pacquiao. This blogger assumes Judah was drunk. And also that everyone near Manny's weight class would love to fight him because it's a lot of money, duh.

I think the main point is No. 5 here: Judah doesn't want to fight. He hasn't fought since November. He doesn't want to fight. If the partying rumors are true, he's just living life and going about his business. The Matthew Hatton fight wasn't exactly huge money, and Judah probably feels for whatever reason that he's still a "big money" fighter, which he isn't. He hasn't beaten a decent opponent in almost half a decade and he folds like a tent when the going gets rough anymore. He's still a massive talent, and still has some of the fastest hands in the sport. I've never made any secret that I wasn't a Zab fan, but I don't need to be a fan to respect what someone can do in the ring. Judah at his best was phenomenal to watch. He's always lacked that certain something, though.

By asking for an obvious welterweight to come down to 140, Zab made this transparent enough, but Judah himself hasn't officially fought at junior welterweight since knocking out Jamie Rangel in a minute and 12 seconds on December 13, 2003. That's five and a half years. Yes, he's said he wants to go back to 140 on occasion in the last year, year and a half, but he hasn't. So not only was he begging for a "No thanks, then" from his opponent, but he couldn't even figure out a way that wasn't 200% obvious to everyone on earth.

Judah may fight Antonio Diaz (46-5-1, 29 KO) on the 9/19 card, or he may not. I'm going to guess he won't. Diaz, by the way, is also a welterweight (or a little higher), though he did fight at 140 at some point in his career. At 140, he fought the likes of Micky Ward and Ivan Robinson, and at 147 he lost to Shane Mosley and Antonio Margarito. He is on a winning streak dating back to 2004 (seven fights, he was out of boxing from 8/05 through 7/08) and frankly he might beat Judah, too.

Star-divide

  • Our friend from SBN's BlogABull brought the David Diaz-Jesus Chavez fight to our attention the other day, and all I can really say is this: I'll be stunned if it actually happens, but in the boxing world, Chicago is a really undeveloped market. Local boxing does quite well down there. The last time a major card came to Chicago was -- I believe -- Juan Diaz's fight against Julio Diaz, which was held at the Sears Centre in Hoffman Estates, which is a decent drive from the city. That show did absolutely horrible at the gate, but promotion was also really, really bad. I said then that Don King could've easily found a location in the city for roughly the same cost and probably done twice the house. There's a large Hispanic market in Chicago and they'll come out to support fights if they know about them. David Diaz's fight with Erik Morales did quite well, and everyone and their dog knew Morales was shot.
  • Speaking of Erik Morales, he's still planning on making that comeback. WBC president Jose Sulaiman (I'm sorry, I'm just not calling him Don Jose) has advised against it, and he was always one of Morales' biggest supporters. Bob Arum long ago said he won't have anything to do with a Morales return because Morales reported buzzing in his head after his final fight with Diaz. Morales and his old foe, Marco Antonio Barrera, are both foolishly chasing that "world titles in four weight classes" thing that no Mexican-born fighter has ever accomplished. It's a great goal, and they were great fighters, but they're the wrong guys at the wrong time trying to do it. Barrera has no chance to win a title at 135, and neither does Morales, though Morales may gun for 140. He's put on a good amount of weight since retiring. The good news -- if there is any -- is that he's taking it slow and seems to be trying to do it right. Sadly the chances of Morales and/or Barrera getting hurt are far higher, in my view, than them winning another title.
  • After losing to Devon Alexander, Junior Witter and his team are considering a move up to 147 pounds. He seemed fit and did what he always does. I think the bigger problem they're going to have to face is he's just not that good, and he was seen as Ricky Hatton's greatest challenge for years because 140 used to be an empty division. But there's nothing he's going to hurt moving to 147, either. Why not?

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Judah's a joke...

Sure he’s got fast hands, but for a guy in the sport of boxing he is mentally soft. Was never the same after Kostya had him doing the Harlem Shake. Sorry Zab, you’re not relevant anymore….poof!….be gone.

by SmittytheCutman on Aug 5, 2009 9:00 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

i dont think there is two fighters in the would that i could care less about than zab judah and matt hatton.

by sonofapsycho on Aug 5, 2009 11:19 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Are you keeping tabs on Ben Tackie and Oliver McCall Jr.?

by SC on Aug 6, 2009 12:05 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

id watch them anyday over matt and zab.

i love my ghana fighters and oliver sr has a special place in my heart for knocking lennox senseless many years ago.

by sonofapsycho on Aug 6, 2009 1:37 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

well shit

You sunk my battleship, dude. I mean you even had great seasons.

by SC on Aug 6, 2009 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

you know it.

by sonofapsycho on Aug 6, 2009 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah zab has lost his allure a long time back. i last saw him at msg on the u/card calzaghe/roy jones, what a complete and boring experience.

by cloughie on Aug 5, 2009 11:20 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Major cards in Chicago

Not sure if it counts, but Golota-Minto I believe was more recent than Diaz-Diaz.

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by Brickhaus on Aug 5, 2009 11:56 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

And on Morales

Freddie Roach has mentioned NUMEROUS times that he’d like to match Amir Khan up with Erik Morales. Why? Who the hell knows, but he’s said it on at least three separate occasions.

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by Brickhaus on Aug 5, 2009 11:59 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

i saw that too.

its probably the same reason why amir fought a shot m.a.b.

by sonofapsycho on Aug 6, 2009 1:39 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Next up!!

Amir Khan challenges Sugar Ray Robinson to a scrap!!

Says that Sugar Ray being dead is no object, as Morales and Barrera are practically dead in boxing terms anyway!!

Seriously, if Khan and/or Roach want this “World” title to mean something, if they want Khan’s career to be remembered for the right reasons, then they had better stop beating up on really small fighters old enough to be his dad. I have a sneaking suspicion that posterity will remember Floyd Mayweather Jr. as being a fighter that took the easiest possible options almost all the way through his career (washed up older fighters, or smaller men who he readily admits are ‘not big enough to worry about’), especially late on, and if that malaise can be applied to someone who is/was the best P4P of his generation, then Khan had better believe it can stick to him also.

Fight Salita, fight Urango, fight some guys who while being a little limited are also respectable as opponents. Learn from fighting some live guys. I’m not saying go after Maidana, or Hatton, or Bradley, right away, but at least fight some guys who are top 10 ish in the division. Even Paulie Malignaggi would be a really good test for Khan I think.

This ‘find a grandad and smack him around’ policy (a la Calzaghe, late on) is lamentable, especially given the rhetoric spouted by Khan himself about being a great fighter and a P4P contender, etc.

Boxing is the beginning of all sports. I'm willing to bet that the first sport was a man against another man in a fight. (Omar Epps)

by Chaos100 on Aug 6, 2009 7:49 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah Dimitriy Salita! What happened to him? who is he promoted by these days? Its been ages since I heard anything about him.

by Brett87 on Aug 6, 2009 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He got dumped by DiBella

So I have no idea who he’s being promoted by. He’s been sitting on the #1 contender position for one of the belts (the one Khan has a piece of) for what seems like ages now. One of the other rumors floating around has been Khan vs. Salita at MSG, although frankly I don’t think either one of them can draw well enough to fill up that venue. Put it on a Cotto undercard or something and you might get somewhere.

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by Brickhaus on Aug 6, 2009 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yet the Interm champ in Miadana……lol

"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."

by Zocalo on Aug 8, 2009 6:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I always loved this quote from Hagler “You think you can recapture it and be your old self, but you end up being an old you!” Roy Jones should look himself in the mirror and think about that quote, and so should Morales.

It’s a little bit disturbing that Roach wants to have Khan chase after yet another faded champion. Frankly, there are a lot of things that don’t quite sit right with me about Freddy Roach. He’s becoming a sort of Jekyll-and-Hyde character lately.

"This fight'll be the nastiest thing you'll ever see. I been sober for six weeks, and that makes me vicious."
-- Randall 'Tex' Cobb

by jrok on Aug 6, 2009 10:12 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Freddie’s becoming less genius and more evil genius the more we get to see him in the spotlight. Which puts him in line with pretty much everyone else in boxing, I guess. I think we all wanted him to be, I dunno, “something more.”

by SC on Aug 6, 2009 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah exactly

That’s pretty much what I meant. The “Boxing’s good guy” mask is slipping, and what’s underneath is just the same old song and dance.

I think a lot of journalists let his PD influence their opinion of him, as though it makes him some sort of saint. I mean, this is still the guy that got his start by throwing a hapless Hollywood actor into a boxing ring, the guy who grabbed some easy headlines by welcoming Margarito into his gym (a month after saying he should be banned for life), the guy who let Penalosa get the remainder of his career beat out of him needlessly, etc.

"This fight'll be the nastiest thing you'll ever see. I been sober for six weeks, and that makes me vicious."
-- Randall 'Tex' Cobb

by jrok on Aug 6, 2009 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

the guy who let Penalosa get the remainder of his career beat out of him needlessly

That remains to be seen, imho.

Boxing writer: "Iran, what are you going to do when you retire?"
Iran Barkley: "Rob your house"

by Matt Miller on Aug 6, 2009 5:50 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Fair enough

But I still think it was needless for at least two rounds.

"This fight'll be the nastiest thing you'll ever see. I been sober for six weeks, and that makes me vicious."
-- Randall 'Tex' Cobb

by jrok on Aug 6, 2009 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

agreed

Boxing writer: "Iran, what are you going to do when you retire?"
Iran Barkley: "Rob your house"

by Matt Miller on Aug 10, 2009 11:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

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