Floyd Mayweather 2.0: Growing Pains
Floyd Mayweather's recent outbursts have begun to achieve their purpose: we're paying attention to Floyd. We were distracted by Manny's sheer greatness and by Marquez drinking his pee, but now the boxing spotlight is right where Mayweather wants it, and if the glare seems a bit withering at the moment, "there's no such thing as bad publicity," Floyd seems to have assumed, and even hardened boxing observers have been pulled in by his strange spectacle at this point. As planned.
That's good for camp Mayweather, as they attempt to deal with the new media environment in this, Mayweather's post-"retirement" phase. During his hiatus, opinions about PBF have evolved; the boxing world has moved on; Pacquiao has emerged as nothing short of a living legend; and the glare of the media has sharpened, putting Mayweather's incongruities and flat-out bullshit in an even less forgiving light than he experienced previously (the blatant cynicism of his "retirement," I believe, put the test to all of our bullshit thermometers, no?).
Floyd 2.0 has issues, and he's feeling rather sorry for himself. Why don't we all love him!
Speaking personally, ultimately, I really don't care all that much about the showbiz aspect of boxing. I take pretty much everything a boxer says in the run-up to a big fight with a big fat grain of salt. Really, I just want to see good fights and good times for boxing. I ultimately don't care how big of an asshole Floyd makes of himself.
But I think it's pretty clear he has a big image problem right now, and if he wants to meet his own goals, he needs to make some adjustments. As he gets older, he is starting to see the limitations of his previous "bad boy" approach. He wants to be a crossover figure, and his time on Dancing with the Stars and various flirtations with mainstream America have begun to make an impact, suggesting that he can't get away with the two-dimensional persona that was his meal ticket during his early to mid career.
Now Floyd wants more. He wants to reform his image, show his good side, convince us there's a compassionate soul in there. But at the same time, he's not willing to give up on "Money." He wants us to buy the whole bad-guy bullshit routine, even as we buy the idea that he's some saint of the soup kitchen and lunch line, handing out brown bags to down-and-outers from the back of his rental truck.
The image he's presenting right now is essentially schizophrenic, and it's not going to work without some serious fine tuning. But rather than cynically trying on some new persona in the media for his next promotion, I have a better idea. It's time to think more about the big picture, I believe. Humor me. What if, instead of trying some new and improved Mayweather 3.0 if the Marquez promotion doesn't work out as expected, what if instead of that, you just took a fight that fans really want to see?
Want to be a bad boy that everybody loves to hate? Fight Mosley, and go back to being an unrepentant foil for the haters. That's your best bet.
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really good point at the end there. only way money may can TRULY be relevant and massively popular again is fighting someone everyone demands him to fight. he thinks he can coast on being just mayweather, but he needs a dancing partner in order to become that major star. i’ll tell you this if pbf and mosley actually did fight, i would buy that PPV as well as for everyone i know.
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by battle axe of doom on Sep 17, 2009 2:22 AM EDT reply actions
The problem with Mosley isn’t if boxing fans are going to buy the fight, the question is whether John Long, who likes monday night football, will buy the fight. The problem with Mosley is that people don’t know who he is and won’t pay to see him. Floyd knows this and therefore doesn’t make the fight. He may be a little ridiculous, but he’s not stupid.
by Waldo Rastel on Sep 17, 2009 3:06 AM EDT up reply actions
MNF fan John Long isn’t going to buy Mayweather-Marquez either. He might buy that cage fightin’ thing, see what that’s all about. I hear there are no holds barred.
Bad Left Hook
"Well Howie, I think I'm going to stay outside and outjab him." -- Tex Cobb telling Howard Cosell how he would approach Larry Holmes
by Scott Christ on Sep 17, 2009 3:19 AM EDT up reply actions
I know that's the conventional wisdom,
but I think the outlook is short-sighted. Even if PBF could achieve a more favorable “ease of fight” vs. $$$! ratio in the short term against an easiest-common-denominator approach, is that the best way to make money in the long run? Losing to Mosley in a classic fight would do more for Mayweather’s marketability in the long run than dominating Marquez ever possibly could. He is shooting himself in the foot with his own hyper-cautious approach.
Plus it just sucks ass from a fan standpoint.
Boxing writer: "Iran, what are you going to do when you retire?"
Iran Barkley: "Rob your house"
It's a shame really..
Whether you like Floyd or not he is a very talented fighter. He hasn’t fought anybody that can expose his weaknesses yet but either way he is very good and at least one of the top ten fighters of the last decade.
The problem is he acts like an asshat and destroys any token of respect he might get otherwise.
It’s not really the bad boy attitude its the way he treats those around him.
I was watching an episode of Marquez vs Mayweather 24/7 and I think its the second episode where he is bragging about “my shit is all paid for, is yours?”.
LOL I mean wtf people are losing their homes in a distastrous recession which is causing job losses of millions and shutting down huge industries and this guy is bragging to the people watching about having things paid for when they don’t?
A lot of people have been caught up and fucked to some degree by this recession tuning into this ungrateful asswipe talking like that is the last thing you want.
Be a bad boy all you want nobody has anything against a bad boy. In fact a bad boy is a better way to get attention in the media than goodie two shoes who repeats everything like a marketing drone.
What you don’t want to be is an arrogant asshole that disrespects everybody.
Thing is though this is very much looking like make or break for Mayweather. Before Mayweather fought DLH he was only selling 250-300K PPV’s a fight. Now if this fight bombs he’ll be back to making scraps and to make matters worse he needs the money more than ever.
If this fight sells as bad people think it is going to, Mayweather is going to need a big name to stage a big fight against before he is no longer relevant. I don’t think any fight Mayweather is in is going to sell a million PPV’s apart from maybe Pacman.
Now why should Pacman fight Mayweather when Mayweather is exposed as a box office drag and Pacman could fight virtually anyway and still sell a million PPV’s?
A lot is riding on this next fight for Mayweather. If it is an enormous success he can take that money and pay his debts to the IRS right away and have that sorted. He can also be in a better negotiating position against others.
On the other hand if it bombs he may struggle to pay off what he owes and his bargaining position will be significantly weakened against his opponents especially Pacman.
Personally it’s tempting to watch the Mayweather vs Marquez fight just to see to see the moment Mayweather become a failure because if that fight bombs it’ll be a moment few people will be unhappy to live and relive.
As for me though. For once I will pick the UFC over Boxing.
Now why should Pacman fight Mayweather when Mayweather is exposed as a box office drag and Pacman could fight virtually anyway and still sell a million PPV’s?
Even if this fight does the 400-500K I’m expecting and that’s considered a failure by Mayweather standards, name another fighter that does those numbers. There aren’t many. Also Manny’s only ever topped a million once, against Oscar. The only opponent in the sport that Pacquiao could top a million with is Mayweather, or maybe a Marquez that knocks Mayweather out. Nobody else is even coming close. The only million-selling fight in boxing as it stands right now (assuming Floyd wins Saturday as expected) is Mayweather-Pacquiao, and that’s no guarantee.
Bad Left Hook
"Well Howie, I think I'm going to stay outside and outjab him." -- Tex Cobb telling Howard Cosell how he would approach Larry Holmes
by Scott Christ on Sep 17, 2009 3:42 AM EDT up reply actions
I think Floyd is just a fighter of his times. This is the generation of Jerry Springer antics and the weeping man-boys of Oprah. Men of previous generation just didn’t use to have this “emotional dimension” or whatever you call it, but now even boxers are expected to be half-female i.e. emotional and sensitive and verbal/talkative. Boxers used to just say stuff like “I’ll murdah the bum” and that would be it… they’d go murder the bum or the bum would murder them. Floyd is just in on the zeitgeist… he’s in touch with his feminine side.
"This fight'll be the nastiest thing you'll ever see. I been sober for six weeks, and that makes me vicious."
-- Randall 'Tex' Cobb
this is a good article to point out. our expectations for boxers change when you start getting older. it’s one thing for a brash, confident boxer to be in their prime/mid 20’s, whatever. it’s another when you’re still having associates using your car while accused of shooting outside of roller skating rinks, arriving in an armored van etc. it all feels contrived/like a broken record at this point.
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