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Rumor: Mayweather-Marquez does around 1 million buys

Early indicators say that around one million people saw Floyd Mayweather Jr. make Juan Manuel Marquez miss on pay-per-view. The number is a massive success for boxing. (Photo by Ethan Miller/Getty Images)

Kevin Iole of Yahoo! Sports reports in his latest MMA mailbag that while we're likely to hear numbers by Thursday, he's hearing very, very good things about the success of Mayweather-Marquez on pay-per-view:

The UFC is a privately owned company and does not have to release its pay-per-view sales, which it chooses not to do. Occasionally, we’re able to find out what a particular fight sold, but it’s not often. From what I’m hearing, though, the Mayweather fight had a convincing victory. I’m hearing the Mayweather-Marquez pay-per-view is going to come in at or near 1 million sales. I don’t have a verifiable figure for the UFC, but I believe it will be far lower than 1 million. The boxing number should be released by Thursday at the latest and perhaps on Wednesday.

This would be a huge success for Mayweather, for HBO, for boxing in general, and for everyone involved in this fight on any level. I really never expected they could get near this number, and I recall correctly off the top of my head, this would be the first non-Oscar de la Hoya fight to get to 1,000,000 buys in boxing since Lennox Lewis-Mike Tyson in 2002.

It's really amazing if the numbers are true. I expected this show and UFC 103 to split audiences a bit, and the UFC estimates I've heard are around 400,000 for their show, which is a great number considering there weren't any of the UFC's major stars on that card. It was just a good fight card.

I don't want to go into who "won," because if these numbers are accurate, the fact of the matter is everybody won. That's a WHOLE lot of people watching boxing and MMA on one night, especially considering how much they had to pay to do it.

This will also validate Floyd: If these numbers are true, you're damn right he's a superstar, and maybe we diehard fans blinded ourselves a bit by not being terribly excited about this matchup. The casual fan that digs Floyd probably didn't really even care who Juan Manuel Marquez was when this was signed, they were just happy that Floyd was back.

Editor's Note: Just so everyone understands, this is nothing more than a rumor and meant for discussion. It is posted only so that we can gauge what people think about this number. Thus far, many of you aren't buying it. That is understandable. Hatton-Pacquiao was reported much higher at first than it wound up being, too. The bit of "analysis" I give the numbers is just what the affect could be if this number comes back as solid from someone at HBO. It is not yet fact whatsoever. This should be clear.

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9 times out of 10, the early ‘leaked’ numbers are over. Remember the Hatton-Pacquiao fiasco where Arum WAY overstated the sales, then wouldn’t backtrack by releasing the real numbers?

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by Brickhaus on Sep 22, 2009 7:53 PM EDT reply actions  

yeah

Someone’ll leak the real number, but HBO should be ready to spill the beans within 48 hours if this is the real deal. It’s “rumor” for a reason, obviously. My absolute high-end guess for this fight was the 800-850K that Hatton-Pacquiao did.

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"Well Howie, I think I'm going to stay outside and outjab him." -- Tex Cobb telling Howard Cosell how he would approach Larry Holmes

by Scott Christ on Sep 22, 2009 7:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

BOIEMACHO

RUMORS? Is this how the sports writers write their columns nowadays?
Maybe the next rumors are that Cheaterweather drank his own urine too but drinks more quantity that is why he is greater than Marquez.

by BOIEMACHO on Sep 22, 2009 8:31 PM EDT reply actions  

good post

Informative, useful, used your handle as the post title.

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"Well Howie, I think I'm going to stay outside and outjab him." -- Tex Cobb telling Howard Cosell how he would approach Larry Holmes

by Scott Christ on Sep 22, 2009 8:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Plus this is, you know, a blog.

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"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."

by Brickhaus on Sep 23, 2009 12:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

How did Mayweather cheat? That’s what I would like to know.

http://twitter.com/FlyByKnite

by FlyByKnight on Sep 22, 2009 9:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Another premature revelation of not yet established fact. One thing great about publishing rumors is that it gets established early in the subconscious minds of many. Straightening things right they are still rumors and a number of viewer’s reasons who watched the fight is because both fighters got a connection with Manny Pacquiao. The Mayweather Jr.-Marquez fight is one of the most boring fights I’ve seen even considering the impressive win of PBF by ducking, running, sneaky punching which sadly makes a boring style for him.

by DCRJ on Sep 22, 2009 9:05 PM EDT reply actions  

I won’t lie: I hope they did a million buys. That would be great for boxing. I also am literally stunned that there’s even a rumor from a solid reporter like Iole that they did this much. Bob Arum was the guy who fluffed up the Hatton-Pacquiao buy number, then went in a cave when it wasn’t quite as big as he expected, even though that fight was a great success. We’ll see if this comes down some (and it almost surely will) whether or not Golden Boy and Mayweather want to do the same thing Arum tried. HBO and Golden Boy weren’t thrilled with Arum for wanting to hide the Hatton-Pac number, since they were all ready to break out the champagne.

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"Well Howie, I think I'm going to stay outside and outjab him." -- Tex Cobb telling Howard Cosell how he would approach Larry Holmes

by Scott Christ on Sep 22, 2009 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't agree this was a great night for mma. The UFC purposely went up against the Mayweather fight to beat him and even showed a chunk on the undercard to get more buys.

The UFC played hardball on this one and are left with a pr problem. I would say this result is good for boxing and boxing and mma blogs, but bad for mma.

by Upstait on Sep 22, 2009 9:06 PM EDT reply actions  

The UFC purposely went up against the Mayweather fight to beat him and even showed a chunk on the undercard to get more buys.

UFC had this date booked well before Mayweather-Marquez was moved from July 18 to September 19.

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"Well Howie, I think I'm going to stay outside and outjab him." -- Tex Cobb telling Howard Cosell how he would approach Larry Holmes

by Scott Christ on Sep 22, 2009 9:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

K, they still went balls out on the promotion on this. Showing part of the undercard for free and trashing Marquez pretty publicly and rudely to create a stir.

Combined with the fact that this was very poorly promoted by Mayweather/Golden, and the UFC has some egg on theirr face now. Like I said, great for MMA and boxing blogs, bad for mma.

by Upstait on Sep 22, 2009 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dana will do what I expected and said he’d do before, if boxing “beat” him. He’ll say “Eh, doesn’t matter,” and then go on with his life. If they had “won,” he’d be barking all over the place. Instead he’ll say the fight sucked, which is an arguable point.

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"Well Howie, I think I'm going to stay outside and outjab him." -- Tex Cobb telling Howard Cosell how he would approach Larry Holmes

by Scott Christ on Sep 22, 2009 9:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

How did they come out with egg on their face?

They weren’t even expecting to compete until it was too late.

No one is going to herald that 103 was a super big event. This was a nice hardcore card built to create and elevate talent. Nothing more.

If you want to go neener neener neener, do it when GBP or Rank go up against an actual competitive cards instead of cards that build talent or are in Europe

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-Lao Tzu

by RoyalB on Sep 23, 2009 12:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

They didn't know this was what they were up against

But the weekend of Mexican Independence Day, they knew they’d be up against SOMETHING.

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by Brickhaus on Sep 23, 2009 12:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

IT'S RIGGED! The cost is too high to fail

Rumor?

It been heavily rumored too that the sales gonna be rigged.

They bought the tickets themselves to avoid huge humiliation.

Failure on this one means failure in their next events.

So they had to do something – by hook or by crook.

We’re not fools!

by avidboxfan on Sep 22, 2009 9:07 PM EDT reply actions  

Someone will put the real number out. Arum tried to hide the Hatton-Pacquiao number (about 825-850K) because he had gotten so crazy in the hype portion of the promotion that he said it would beat Oscar-Floyd, which was the pipe dream to end all pipe dreams.

Live tickets are another story. I don’t think anyone doubts they papered that place a little bit. Buffer said the night before at the weigh-in that tickets were still readily available at the MGM Grand.

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"Well Howie, I think I'm going to stay outside and outjab him." -- Tex Cobb telling Howard Cosell how he would approach Larry Holmes

by Scott Christ on Sep 22, 2009 9:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

rumour

Thats Bad journalism! rumour mongering!

by joevel on Sep 22, 2009 9:12 PM EDT reply actions  

This is not bad journalism. It clearly states that this is a rumour so is to be taken with a big pinch of salt. Had they posted this as fact then it would be bad journalism.

give the guys a break they are voluntary bloggers who do a great job and they don’t deserve to be called bad journalists for no reason.

by Drunken cutman on Sep 23, 2009 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Its a feeling-the-waters rumor tactic

This rumor seemed like testing us all how we will receive such a report knowing that
its really not a saleable fight.

Maybe GBP will not divulge the actual sales and just hype their company through rumors of success.

Its not difficult to buy one’s event because the money still comes back to them.

If the one million buy is true maybe because theyve spent $600,000 in marketing and promo hypes. Its still the lowest profit of all!

by avidboxfan on Sep 22, 2009 9:13 PM EDT reply actions  

The writer made the rumor a fact already

The writer said it was just a rumor then he went on analysing the sales as fact and a
huge success.

Aint it dumb?

by avidboxfan on Sep 22, 2009 9:16 PM EDT reply actions  

I analyzed what effect this would have if true, while never reporting it as concrete. However, it’s not my rumor anyway; it’s Kevin Iole’s.

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"Well Howie, I think I'm going to stay outside and outjab him." -- Tex Cobb telling Howard Cosell how he would approach Larry Holmes

by Scott Christ on Sep 22, 2009 9:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Why not 1 billion?

by joevel on Sep 22, 2009 9:16 PM EDT reply actions  

Why not 825,000?

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"Well Howie, I think I'm going to stay outside and outjab him." -- Tex Cobb telling Howard Cosell how he would approach Larry Holmes

by Scott Christ on Sep 22, 2009 9:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Don't Hate

HBO 24/7 plays a major factor for boxing ppv numbers. MMA wish they had a 24/7 to promote there weak events. I see between 900,000 to 1,000,000 buys.

Mayweather and Pac-man will break the ppv bank !

by Bizmark707 on Sep 22, 2009 9:35 PM EDT reply actions  

I figured about 550 for this show and 500 for UFC. I am straight up blown away by the idea of this. Even if it comes in at something like 750-800K, that’s a big, big number, and it leads me to wonder just how huge Mayweather-Pacquiao could potentially be.

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"Well Howie, I think I'm going to stay outside and outjab him." -- Tex Cobb telling Howard Cosell how he would approach Larry Holmes

by Scott Christ on Sep 22, 2009 9:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wonder if they are adding in the theater numbers to beef this up? I’ve noticed a lot of fuzzy math over the years from promoters. Releasing the gross in tandem would clear a lot of things up…. but then again, that’s more of a paper trail for Mr. I.R.S.

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by jrok on Sep 22, 2009 9:51 PM EDT reply actions  

I hope we do get theater numbers to see how well that went over. It’d be cool if that became a normal option for people who don’t want to or can’t afford to spend 50 bones on a boxing show.

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"Well Howie, I think I'm going to stay outside and outjab him." -- Tex Cobb telling Howard Cosell how he would approach Larry Holmes

by Scott Christ on Sep 22, 2009 9:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

You guys forget that the live gate is lessthan the sitting value. And now we are bragging for a million PPV? This whole promotion is a fraud until the last news. If people dishlike to watch it on live, how much more they abhore payin 50bucks with a boring show?WAKE UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by Golden Son on Sep 22, 2009 9:58 PM EDT reply actions  

Good for boxing?

Would it really be good for boxing if this fight did a million PPV buys? From a fan’s standpoint, it was a terrible fight, and certainly not one that is going to garner boxing any new fans. Marquez looked like he didn’t even belong in the same arena as Mayweather, and instead of taking advantage of it, Mayweather simply phoned it in. I almost felt embarrassed for having hyped both Marquez and this fight up to the people I invited over to watch it. Mayweather essentially did himself a massive disfavor by making it look so easy, and by not trying to take his man out when he knew he had the fight won on points. I can almost guarantee that unless Mayweather’s next fight is against the Pacquiao-Cotto winner it will do far less PPVs than this one. Even if there’s not an MMA card going head-to-head with it. And yes, even if it’s against Shane Mosley (which would take a great deal of the Mexican and Latino fans out of the equation).

by kgon47 on Sep 22, 2009 9:59 PM EDT reply actions  

Would it really be good for boxing if this fight did a million PPV buys?

I think so. I know what you’re saying, but I do think it’s good for the sport. I don’t think a failure in a major fight like this is in any way good for boxing. Boxing’s greatest fight right now is getting the mainstream media to devote some actual coverage again. A weak showing on PPV here, I think, just has the mainstream media responding, “See? Nobody cares.”

From a fan’s standpoint, it was a terrible fight, and certainly not one that is going to garner boxing any new fans.

It was a boring, routine, almost sparring contest-level fight from the standpoint of a big boxing fan, but I watched this fight with people that aren’t really fans, and they were REALLY impressed by Floyd. This has actually happened before when I’ve watched Floyd fights with casual fans, or people who frankly don’t even like boxing. It’s not the same sort of exciting that a truly great fight represents, but Floyd does things defensively that people just don’t see otherwise. His pure athleticism really does impress people, and I think just on that he has the ability to create some fans, though obviously a guy like Manny Pacquiao that fights the way he does is bound to create more, if you can get people to watch.

And I hate to put it like this, but Floyd’s American, and he is by far the biggest American star in boxing. I love how diverse the boxing landscape is, and I love many fighters from all over the world, but people that hear Mayweather is coming back remember him from the Oscar fight and/or the Hatton fight, or even from WWE or whatever, and they relate to him ahead of Marquez a lot more than I think the diehard boxing audience realizes. They don’t know Marquez. They know Floyd. People like winners, and Floyd always wins. I think he comes off differently to people that don’t follow closely than he does to those who do.

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"Well Howie, I think I'm going to stay outside and outjab him." -- Tex Cobb telling Howard Cosell how he would approach Larry Holmes

by Scott Christ on Sep 22, 2009 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

People like winners, and Floyd always wins.

I truly believe that a majority of the people who ordered last weekend’s fight, even the American fans, not just the Mexicans, were rooting for Marquez. I don’t intend to give Marquez that much credit, either. What I mean to say is that a great deal of people order Mayweather events not to watch him win, but to see if this is finally the time that someone beats him. And to boot, Floyd markets himself as a villain—both by acting like a complete fool and making some of the most ignorant statements I’ve ever heard an athlete make. Just think about the crowds at his biggest events: on Saturday, it was clearly a pro-Marquez crowd; in 2007, it was a “Hatton Wonderland”; same with Oscar, Gatt, and shit, people were even rooting for Baldomir to beat him. The only exception to that rule might just have been Zab Judah, who, lets be honest, gives Floyd a good run for his money in the fool department.

In a sense, yes, huge PPV numbers do have their pull with the media, but still: how ridiculous was it to watch PTI or Around the Horn the week before this fight, and have all the journalists there pretend they don’t even know who Marquez is?

I appreciate what Floyd does, and I do like to watch him fight. And I believe that he’s the best pound-for-pound fighter in the sport (deep down, you probably do too, although you have him tied with Pacquiao in your rankings), but like you said, it was a boring, routine, almost sparring-level contest of a fight, in which the ref was asking Marquez if he wanted to continue after six rounds, and while people may have been impressed with Floyd himself, I’m sure they were not impressed by the quality or competitiveness of the fight. Had he merely tried, I truly believe Floyd could’ve finished Marquez much like he finished Hatton. People may love winners, but they love knockouts more.

I only with that Pacquiao-Cotto could do the same amount of buys as this fight. That’s the type of match-up that might be able to win boxing some fans.

by kgon47 on Sep 22, 2009 10:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

how ridiculous was it to watch PTI or Around the Horn the week before this fight, and have all the journalists there pretend they don’t even know who Marquez is?

Sadly, I don’t think they were pretending.

Had he merely tried, I truly believe Floyd could’ve finished Marquez much like he finished Hatton. People may love winners, but they love knockouts more.

A lot of people are thinking this, and I’m one of them. I think if Floyd had stepped on the gas he probably could have — and I think clearly SHOULD have — been able to stop JMM, which is no shot at Marquez at all. JMM is tougher than all hell, but he was just well out of his depth.

I actually think Cotto-Pacquiao will beat this fight in buys, even if this is as big as Iole’s early rumor. What Manny did with Ricky was a really great number, AND for as short as that fight was, it was brutal, and I think people left that fight going, “Wow. You gotta see THIS guy.” As much as I’ve watched Floyd fights with people that found him very impressive and very enjoyable, they’ve never reacted that way to Mayweather. Maybe against Hatton, which was the most important performance of his career. He did his usual, and then he finished. People have seen Manny tear apart two guys in a row in really big fights, and I think there are a ton of people really looking forward to the Cotto fight. Even if boxing never becomes the huge attraction it was in its heyday, you can always catch lightning in a bottle with someone. Hell, it’s not like the rest of the sport was booming while Oscar was pulling in huge numbers.

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"Well Howie, I think I'm going to stay outside and outjab him." -- Tex Cobb telling Howard Cosell how he would approach Larry Holmes

by Scott Christ on Sep 22, 2009 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

One late round I thought Floyd gave it a pretty good shot at stopping him. Maybe it was 9 or 10, one of those he had Marquez on the ropes and tagged him several times. It would have taken several KDs to end Marquez though. Floyd would have really had to break character to stop him.

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by lcollins1 on Sep 22, 2009 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

It would have taken several KDs to end Marquez though.

If it was up to Marquez, yeah, but Tony Weeks probably would have jumped in there if it had gotten really out of hand, and I mean ugly power shots piling up and Marquez going down. I wasn’t expecting Floyd to come up with a one-shot, but rather an accumulation of punishment that would have gotten Weeks in there. He never turned it up though. When he got Hatton hurt, he pounced. But I guess I should probably defer to Floyd on this one; he saw something in Hatton he may not have seen in Marquez, and as bad as the Marquez beating was, I can’t say I recall him ever looking like Ricky did after he steamrolled that ringpost.

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"Well Howie, I think I'm going to stay outside and outjab him." -- Tex Cobb telling Howard Cosell how he would approach Larry Holmes

by Scott Christ on Sep 22, 2009 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah Marquez never did the WWE turn-buckle head collision, just classic.

Floyd: ’It’s a catchhook, we call it a catchhook’

"I swear to God, I'll take this ******* ball and shove it down your ******* throat" - Serena Williams

by lcollins1 on Sep 22, 2009 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Emanuel Steward was classic right there, too. Lampley was trying to be all excited, and Manny sounded like a guy teaching a lesson. “CHECK HOOK. … CHECK HOOK.”

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"Well Howie, I think I'm going to stay outside and outjab him." -- Tex Cobb telling Howard Cosell how he would approach Larry Holmes

by Scott Christ on Sep 22, 2009 10:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

I hope you’re right about Pacquiao-Cotto doing more buys than this one. Both because it would be good for boxing, given their styles, and because then the winner would have a legitimate argument at an even-money fight with Mayweather. (Though, well, we might as well not get into that yet, because that fight is unlikely to ever happen).

PTI and Around the Horn covered Marquez’s fights with Pacquiao and, if I remember correctly, they covered the one with Diaz too. And when Floyd-JMM was signed, they most definitely covered it too. But, yeah, the week before the fight they were just talking about the Boxing/MMA feud, and saying that Dana was right, that Marquez was a nobody, which pissed me off to no end.

by kgon47 on Sep 22, 2009 11:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

What’s most obnoxious about this is that they couldn’t have picked Vitor Belfort out of a lineup, probably, and either he or Rich Franklin were THE biggest star at UFC 103. Again, not picking on that card, but Mayweather is a bigger star than everyone on that show combined, and I said that before the show even began.

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"Well Howie, I think I'm going to stay outside and outjab him." -- Tex Cobb telling Howard Cosell how he would approach Larry Holmes

by Scott Christ on Sep 22, 2009 11:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

MMA it’s a nice little side show just like the WWE. Boxing have a long history from the real Sugar Ray to AKA Money Mayweather. Mainstream media will never give MMA the attention like Boxing. History will always be on Boxing side through the up’s and down’s. Two great boxers will always out rank anything the MMA have to offer in the eyes of americans.

by Bizmark707 on Sep 22, 2009 10:18 PM EDT reply actions  

When MMA break the all-time record that was set by Mayweather and De La Hoya 2.15 million then call me.

by Bizmark707 on Sep 22, 2009 10:29 PM EDT reply actions  

Just wondering

But how much of this is attributable perhaps to the undercard? I know that I probably wouldn’t have bothered to stay up until the early hours in the UK if there hadn’t been some solid fights beforehand

by thirdslip on Sep 22, 2009 10:31 PM EDT reply actions  

Great Hyping

If this is true, it only means that many people were duped because of all the hype including supposedly making the field level with a catch-weight of 144 lbs.

Give those people back their hard-earned money!

by Blacksocks on Sep 22, 2009 11:11 PM EDT reply actions  

no come on. It was a boring fight in some respect, I feel duped in some respects, but it did display one of the greatest defensive talents that we’ve ever seen lace ‘em up. Floyd got hit about three times all night, he’s still fast as shit, I don’t need the $ back.

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by lcollins1 on Sep 23, 2009 12:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

Rumor: Mayweather-Marquez does around 1 million buys

Making Iole as scapegoat and benefiting from his write-up is COWARDICE.

by Covev on Sep 23, 2009 12:26 AM EDT reply actions  

man

where does the malice come from? I don’t get it. There’s a few people on here who seem genuinely pissed that this was published here. The first word on the thing is “RUMOR”, and the editor’s note re-asserts that it’s a rumor. What’s this site’s benefit from publishing?

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by lcollins1 on Sep 23, 2009 12:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

honestly?

I’m guessing Pacquiao fans scared of the idea of Floyd’s “lame” fight being potentially more popular than Pacquiao’s last fight was.

I didn’t see anybody here shitting bricks when Iole also reported an early rumor for the buys on Hatton-Pacquiao, and I talked about it here, which turned out to be a whole lot higher than the actual number was. It’s a lot of pointless whining.

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"Well Howie, I think I'm going to stay outside and outjab him." -- Tex Cobb telling Howard Cosell how he would approach Larry Holmes

by Scott Christ on Sep 23, 2009 12:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

im actually a huge manny fan and i jus wanted to say that so many of these comments are ridiculous. i like to think that im pretty knowledged on the sport now and while i read what i can, kevin ioles column or blog or whatevr isnt something i visit. i come here to read about whats going on and then maybe discussing it with people who know more, about the same, and maybe less than me.

id be disappointed if this fight did more ppv buys than pacman hatton did sure, but there are alot of reasons why it would, none of which involve Scott or any other member here posting this rumor. if he didnt it would prolly get posted by sumone else as a fanshot anyway.

thx for keeping us in the loop scott. keep it up.

by ianflo on Sep 23, 2009 2:52 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I’m a huge Manny fan, too, for the record.

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"Well Howie, I think I'm going to stay outside and outjab him." -- Tex Cobb telling Howard Cosell how he would approach Larry Holmes

by Scott Christ on Sep 23, 2009 2:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

also id be really angry if they included theatre counts into the number and not as a separate number altogether. jus sayin, it really feels likes its something theyd do.

by ianflo on Sep 23, 2009 2:55 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

also
What’s this site’s benefit from publishing?

As this site is built to encourage boxing fans to discuss boxing, I was hoping this early rumor would spark some discussion. It has! Some of it has been very enjoyable, some of it has brought out the trolls.

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"Well Howie, I think I'm going to stay outside and outjab him." -- Tex Cobb telling Howard Cosell how he would approach Larry Holmes

by Scott Christ on Sep 23, 2009 1:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

Making Iole as scapegoat and benefiting from his write-up is COWARDICE.

Title starts with “Rumor.” Post ends to reaffirm this. First sentence of the post starts with “Kevin Iole reports.” It’s Kevin Iole’s rumor, as Kevin Iole reported it in Kevin Iole’s column, which is both linked and clearly quoted. We’re just discussing what ramifications this could have, and how good it would be for boxing if this were true.

But hey, sure, if you want.

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"Well Howie, I think I'm going to stay outside and outjab him." -- Tex Cobb telling Howard Cosell how he would approach Larry Holmes

by Scott Christ on Sep 23, 2009 1:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

Even if its not 1mil, and more like 750k its still a huge success, and some of you are some big time haters…

by AllDayBoxing on Sep 23, 2009 1:11 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

I would love for this to get around the 1 mill but if it does the only down side will be Mayweather in negotiations. If Pac beats Cotto and they get say 900-1mill Floyd wont dream of having 50-50 with Pac. I think Pac – Cotto will beat or equal this card and i definatly hope it does just to make it easier to set up Mayweather vs winner

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by sigidy on Sep 23, 2009 1:55 AM EDT reply actions  

Good for Boxing!

Absolutely is this good for boxing if true, even if its close to true. Also it would be good for Cotto-Pac to do near the same numbers cause that would mean 3 things:
1. Floyd with a good undercard is still a big draw
2. Pac w/o a good undercard (maybe so-so) can be a big draw
3. Together w/ a good undercard could challenge De la Hoya territory
3+. Would make negotiations go smoother since 50/50 split would seem more reasonable for both sides.

Keeping it positive and not falling into this stupid UFC vs. Boxing or Pac vs. PBF nonsense. Fighting isn’t a zero-sum game. More advertising for both means more fans and more money for both; competition can be good in this way.

by Waldo Rastel on Sep 23, 2009 4:42 AM EDT reply actions  

Fighting isn’t a zero-sum game.

Bingo!

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by Matt Miller on Sep 23, 2009 8:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

1.6 millions rumors

I’m reading on some blogs that Mayweather hit the 1.6 million mark.

by Bizmark707 on Sep 23, 2009 9:05 AM EDT reply actions  

Yeah, that’s what Kevin Iole told me late last night, and I’m working on a story. He also tweeted about it.

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"Well Howie, I think I'm going to stay outside and outjab him." -- Tex Cobb telling Howard Cosell how he would approach Larry Holmes

by Scott Christ on Sep 23, 2009 9:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

MMA fans I feel that you hate the fact that boxing will beat out any UFC event . If Mayweather hit over million you rather believe that the number are fix lol !

by Bizmark707 on Sep 23, 2009 3:01 PM EDT reply actions  

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