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Joe Santiago thinks Cotto's size will be a big advantage

Joe Santiago (left) feels that Miguel Cotto's size will be a big factor against Manny Pacquiao. Cotto and Pacquiao meet on November 14. (Photo credit Top Rank)

Joe Santiago (left) feels that Miguel Cotto's size will be a big factor against Manny Pacquiao. Cotto and Pacquiao meet on November 14. (Photo credit Top Rank)

Miguel Cotto's trainer Joe Santiago told El Nuevo Dia (link in Spanish) that Manny Pacquiao is a blown-up featherweight, and that Miguel Cotto's size will be a big advantage for them on November 14.

"Manny Pacquiao is a bloated 126 pounds. He's a fighter who started at 108 pounds and has reached 145. It is very bold and so far has gone well, but on November 14, it'll be different.

"We have great respect for his career and hats off to him for what he's done in boxing, but on that day Miguel will be the stronger man in the ring. That will be one of the points in our favor."

I wonder if after watching Floyd Mayweather toy with Juan Manuel Marquez this past Saturday, the size will be an even bigger talking point now for Cotto-Pacquiao. What's odd is that it feels just as many people are saying "Cotto will be a lot bigger" as there are people saying that this is an easy fight for Pacquiao, but those people saying Cotto will be so much bigger aren't picking him to win, at least not clearly. The two biggest opinions I've gathered from reading around are, in order, "Pacquiao's too good and fast" and "Cotto is a lot bigger."

I still don't think size will be one of the biggest issues here. Tactical planning, Pacquiao's speed, Cotto's propensity to cut badly, Pacquiao's ability to take Cotto's punch -- those all seem like bigger deals to me, but that's just one man's opinion. I still have questions about that last one, because with all great regard for his performances in every fight since he's been jumping up in weight, we have not really seen him take a good shot over 130 pounds. He mauled David Diaz at 135 and Diaz is no puncher anyway, Oscar barely got anything off, and Hatton had under two rounds and spent most of the time wondering where the hell he was. Still, I thought we saw Pacquiao feel punches from both Oscar and Hatton, it's just that's about the extent of what they did offensively. A punch here or there. It wasn't a big thing and obviously wound up not helping either of them, but it was there.

Pacquiao carried 142 at weigh-in for Oscar quite well, and was dynamite weighing in at 138 for Hatton. I figure he comes in around 142 or 143 again for this fight. Freddie Roach recently said that Manny's at about 151 pounds as he's gotten training camp underway. Cotto really should make 145 without many problems, as he was at 146 for Clottey and looked perfectly strong. The problems he had in that fight came from Clottey being a big, physical welterweight that had him fighting with one good eye for the majority of the bout. Manny might find himself in trouble if he tries to stand his ground the way Clottey did, which he of course will not. What I'm saying, essentially, is nothing about Cotto-Clottey besides Cotto cutting again is going to tell us anything about Cotto-Pacquiao. Two entirely different opponents for Miguel.

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Mosley agrees with Santiago, for what it’s worth. Link.

By the way, I thought this interview of Mosley (on Mayweather) was a great read.

by taco pal on Sep 24, 2009 4:10 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

yep, both good reads

Was gonna link both up shortly.

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by SC on Sep 24, 2009 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Size is certainly a factor in this fight. If Cotto says to hell with the contracted weight (which is likely) and weighs in at a bonecracking 147, he could very well walk into the ring a monstrous middleweight and throw some real rockets at the Pacman. It’s pretty much a given that Pacquiao will not have met a punch like that in his life, particularly one pounded into his ribcage.

"This fight'll be the nastiest thing you'll ever see. I been sober for six weeks, and that makes me vicious."
-- Randall 'Tex' Cobb

by jrok on Sep 24, 2009 4:39 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Cotto will knock out manny in the 8th round!

by AllDayBoxing on Sep 24, 2009 4:56 PM EDT via mobile reply actions   0 recs

Kim Sandy

Whoa mate! not too fast anyway thatrs your opinion, but i would be waiting for your message after the fight (after Cotto gets knocked out) wink wink

by Cork on Sep 25, 2009 3:07 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not a gambler, but....

Cotto at +200 is tempting. A man who can take a beating from a loaded-gloved, full bodied welterweight badass like Maracheato for 11 rds probably can take all that Pacquiao can dish out and hurt Pacman in ways he’s never been hurt before

by FunnyBigHat on Sep 24, 2009 7:32 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

He hits the nail on the head...

As you can tell I’m a big Pacman fan but I think what Santiago and Mosley are saying is correct.

Pacman started at 107 and he was probably most content at 126.

He had trouble with his first fight at 130 and took a while to adjust(though he did avenge that loss) but he is really starting to push the boundaries of his body now.

It’s funny to think this time last year we were discussing Pacman vs DLH and we were attacking Freddie Roach for just taking the money and telling each other DLH would toy with Pac before knocking him out. It didn’t work out that way during the fight itself but still if you would have suggest Pac would be taking on Cotto at 145 pounds people would have ridiculed you and said it was completely out of the question and wouldn’t happen in a million years.

The fact that we are talking about this fight happening now is fucking astounding. I really don’t know a single person who thought it was possible 12 months ago. It sounds surreal.

If Pac does win I’ll put him down as the greatest fighter of this generation and one of my top 10 but I don’t care how good you are or what they teach you in the gym being a bloated 126 pound fighter picking fights against guys like Cotto in their backyard.

Shit I have massive respect for Roach but I just don’t understand this fight at all. It makes no sense a guy who has only fought once at 147 is going to take on a guy like Cotto at 145. Are they being bribed by Arum to take a fall or something?

I’d love to believe Cotto will overcome the natural eltite welterweight I really would but all I can say is I think they are pushing their luck with this one and if Pac does pull it off I think it’ll be extremely close and it’ll be because Cotto wasn’t at his best.

A good Cotto vs any fighter that is just a lightweight with a few extra pounds is just a stupid fight to make. That man will carve up guys in his own division let alone smaller guys.

As a Pac fan I’m hopeful but I just don’t see it. I think Cotto will either knock out Pac early or destroy him with body shots and earn the TKO in the later rounds. Pains me to say that but theres a reason there hasn’t been a 7 weight division champion. This is one bridge too far.

by MannyPacquiao on Sep 24, 2009 11:19 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Size sometimes doesnt matter

We are witnessing history in the making here. Sometimes once in a lifetime somebody special comes along to make waves. When Pacman was going up in weights, many doubters are always saying that he is taking more than he could bite. But what happened each time? I guess Pacman will make it as the first man in boxing to get 7 world titles in 7 weight divisions. This fight is for the ages!

by Cork on Sep 25, 2009 3:12 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

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