Oscar de la Hoya talks Mayweather-Mosley, Mayweather-Pacquiao and Marquez-Hatton
by SC on Sep 25, 2009 10:34 AM EDT
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Oscar de la Hoya has his promoter's hat on tight. After spending weeks telling us all that Juan Manuel Marquez was going to beat Floyd Mayweather Jr., he's mapping out other strategies now for two of his biggest fighters (Marquez and Shane Mosley) and two guys he helps promote (Mayweather and Ricky Hatton), and trying to rain on the parade of a guy he doesn't promote (Manny Pacquiao).
Oscar gave BoxingScene.com's Luis Sandoval tons of quotes about future fights for everyone involved.
"This is coming from Marquez. If Mayweather fights Pacquiao -- c'mon. We all know what's going to happen. Mayweather is just too slick. He'll pick him apart. And that's coming from Marquez. And Marquez knows, he's been in there with Pacquiao."
I like "This is coming from Marquez." You know who else has been in there with Pacquiao and Mayweather? Oscar de la Hoya. Is it possible that he thinks Mayweather is too slick for Pacquiao? It's not an alien thought, really. Lots of people think the style matchup is awful for Pacquiao. I'm sure Marquez probably thinks this, too, considering he fought close with Pacquiao and was obliterated by Mayweather. I do love that Oscar spent a long time trying to sell people on the idea that Marquez had a great shot against Mayweather, but now Pacquiao doesn't have a shot. In fact, it's not even worth doing. Why even bother?
"Mosley and Mayweather is the fight that has to be made, because that will be the all-American showdown. It will be a tremendous, tremendous fight. It's going to be difficult to dethrone Mayweather, but the one guy I think can do it sprinkles 'sugar' all over everybody."
Look, first of all, that final line is just horrible. Never say that again, Oscar. Horrible. In fact it's so awful I'd rather just move on.
"We'll have to see what Marquez and Hatton want to do. Marquez has no problem traveling to Manchester to challenge Ricky Hatton. It will be a great fight. It will be one of those fights where whoever the winner is, is back. Back with a vengeance. Back on top of the world and can go on fighting bigger fights and being on bigger events."
Works for me. He also does mention Michael Katsidis, which is a fight that might almost mirror Marquez-Hatton, except with a smaller name and less money involved.
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I would Love to see Shane fight Mosley especially after what Shane did to him after the Marquez fight.
If Pacquiao gets by Cotto, Floyd will beat him . Then who will Floyd challenge if he dont want to fight Shane, Juan Manuel Lopez.
by rgb on Sep 25, 2009 11:26 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
For such a charismatic public figure, De La Hoya sure is awkward. You wouldn’t think those two qualities would go together. Mayweather could give him a run for his money in the charisma + awkwardness department though.
I think Mayweather-Mosley would be a great fight, but I would not look forward to its promotion. If Mayweather is willing to call Manny Steward an Uncle Tom, don’t be surprised if he starts deploying those epithets against Mosley. Could get pretty ugly.
by taco pal on Sep 25, 2009 11:40 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
For such a charismatic public figure, De La Hoya sure is awkward.
Right?! I’m always happy to hear more people say this. He always seems completely unsure of himself, like he’s begging everyone around him to love him. It’s really weird.
I think Mayweather-Mosley would be a great fight, but I would not look forward to its promotion. If Mayweather is willing to call Manny Steward an Uncle Tom, don’t be surprised if he starts deploying those epithets against Mosley. Could get pretty ugly.
I was actually thinking about the exact same thing just a bit ago. I think Mayweather-Pacquiao promotion might wind up pretty tame given how respectful Mayweather was with Marquez, and Pacquiao never says anything bad about anyone. Mayweather-Mosley would probably get all pretend fiery and controversial.
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"Well Howie, I think I'm going to stay outside and outjab him." -- Tex Cobb telling Howard Cosell how he would approach Larry Holmes
by SC on Sep 25, 2009 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rec on the awkward.
That is some awesomely feminine remark right there.
*Unless KP has a secret plan that makes this statement incorrect.
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by staylost on Sep 25, 2009 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not as good as it could have been a few years ago
The main reason to watch a Mayweather-Mosley 24/7 would have been to watch Jin Mosley get all up in Floyd’s face.
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by Brickhaus on Sep 25, 2009 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Let me address DLH about knowing what it’s like to fight Mayweather.. If you go back immediately after that fight when DLH was interviewed he goes right on to say that" Oh he’s fast , his hand are faster that I thought". And this is the problem that people have when they get in that ring, they realize that Mayweather hands are fast as Hell. But then it’s too late because your in the ring and the "PUMMELING " starts. A notable ass whooping and “PUMMEL” exercise. Mayweather vs GOTTI (R.I.P.) Please review that fight and take note of the shit that was done too GOTTI (R.I.P.) .. A series of punches went like such: Body/ Head , Body/ Head. That’s 4 punches but the thing is … It’s with the same Damn Hand… That shit is crazy… He also caught him with 4 straight " Lead " right hands… And you guessed it with same Damn Hand. I hope Mayweather decides to fight Mosley so he too can realize that he isn’t as fast as he thinks he is just like everybody else. More “PUMMELING” if you ask me.
by Haans Bishop on Sep 25, 2009 1:40 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
yeah well
Mosley’s about six times better than the best Gatti in every dimension except stupid. I still got Mayweather beating Mosley, but I really doubt he’s going to be doing a whole lot of ‘pummeling’, more likely a lot of single jabs. And yeah, they’ll be really fast, but c’mon, you really think Mayweather’s gonna KO Shane Mosley?
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by lcollins1 on Sep 25, 2009 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
KO's from Mayweather
It really depends on the style that Mosley will implore. If it’s a come forward and try to pressure style, then I think Floyd will get in some very hard punches and very well could knock Mosley out. Yet, if this is a defensive fight, there is no chance Floyd goes artificial and knocks out sugar.
by waldo47 on Sep 25, 2009 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That’s very unlikely. Mosley has taken lots of hard shots from fighters who are bigger punchers than Mayweather, and he’s barely ever even been hurt. The only time I remember Mosley being hurt was in the first fight with Forrest, and that was right after a gigantic headbutt.
The only way this happens is if Mosley gets old overnight.
by taco pal on Sep 25, 2009 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
wouldn’t exactly bee “overnight”. he last fought on Jan.30 (?), and if he’s throwing it down with mayweather next, it’ll be a year lay off. i know mosley could technically get in the ring right now and be in perfect shape, but who knows? a year COULD make a difference for a dude as old as mosley
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by battle axe of doom on Sep 25, 2009 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was more making a point that its hard to tell how much Mayweather power has because he only uses it in certain fight styles. He may have crazy awesome power but he’s so fast that he rarely feels like using it. Of course he may have just lost a lot of the power he had earlier in his career and simply using speed to cover it up, the fact still remains, we don’t know.
by waldo47 on Sep 25, 2009 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mayweather has jack squat for power
He couldn’t put Marquez away with a 10 + lb weight advantage even when he started trying to close the show after beating him up the whole fight. Pacman would KO Marquez early at this weight. Calling it now. Shane will walk right through Gayweather’s punches and do what Oscar couldn’t. Keep punching when Floyd lays on the ropes.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Sep 26, 2009 3:08 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gayweather
Save it for elsewhere. Seriously. I’d rather not ban you, but it’s a bannable offense. I want “gay” flying around here like I want Mayweather-Marquez II.
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"Well Howie, I think I'm going to stay outside and outjab him." -- Tex Cobb telling Howard Cosell how he would approach Larry Holmes
by SC on Sep 26, 2009 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well Haans
Compared to me and you Gotti is great. Compared to 90% of the other champions at that or any other time he was nowhere in their class.
Gotti is a good win for above average fighters. You wouldn’t even list him on a legendary fighters resume.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Sep 26, 2009 3:05 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not fair for Mayweather
I am a fan of boxing period and it very bad on the negativity that Floyd gets true he is a show off big mouth but we cannot take away from his boxing! Yes he bigger than JMM and Paq but it was suppose to be a tough fight irregardless! When he beats PaQ it going to be he is to big! If he fight Cotto he shot after getting knockout! If he beats Mosley he is to old! The only one I can see giving him trouble would be Williams if he could make 147 again!!
by baller4life on Sep 25, 2009 4:58 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Yes he bigger than JMM and Paq but it was suppose to be a tough fight irregardless!
According to who? Oscar? Whether or not it’s fair to Floyd, one thing boxing fans have been calling for is him to fight a legit welterweight. His last two fights have come against the junior welterweight champ and the lightweight champ. On some levels I do agree that Floyd doesn’t get quite enough credit, but on the other hand, he gives himself too much of it. People just want to see him take the best challenges. If he fought Mosley, say, and he lost a great fight, then whatever. Mosley’s lost fights before. Great fighters that take great risks do lose. The perception is that Floyd protects that “0” like it would kill him to have it knocked off.
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"Well Howie, I think I'm going to stay outside and outjab him." -- Tex Cobb telling Howard Cosell how he would approach Larry Holmes
by SC on Sep 25, 2009 7:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Floyd is a all time great talent… With an all time worst set of guts and heart.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Sep 26, 2009 3:10 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I Understand
To some degree u have a point he will whoop Paq to small but that the fight everyone wants! Trust me Sugar to old and Cotto to slow once he battles all them and win then it will be some up and coming person that wants a piece and we will still be asking him to fight everyone u watch!
by baller4life on Oct 5, 2009 5:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lets Be Real
Marquez is 2 weightclasses lighter than Floyd so we all knew who was going to win that fight. Floyd offered Mosley a fight in 2000 and Mosley said no! Then Floyd offered him a fight in 05-06 and Mosley declined! Lets Be Real people…. Money would wrip Sugar Shane to peices and everybody knows it.
by keanej55 on Sep 26, 2009 12:54 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
So what does everyone with this mindset suggest? “Floyd would beat X and everyone knows it,” etc. Should he just stop fighting?
Bad Left Hook
"Well Howie, I think I'm going to stay outside and outjab him." -- Tex Cobb telling Howard Cosell how he would approach Larry Holmes
by SC on Sep 26, 2009 2:02 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So I’m just going to go on record now as saying I think Mosley is the best possible opponent to beat PBF. I’ve heard arguments for Pac, Cotto, and Clottey (and I’ve heard some nonsensical ramblings), but I think Mosley is easily the best possible style matchup of the group. I’m sure we’ll be hashing this out more in days to come, and I look forward to it.
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by Matt Miller on Sep 26, 2009 2:42 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Cotto is also a good matchup
As Floyd could certainly hit him but would never come close to hurting him and Floyd’s shoulder roll wouldn’t do anything to stop the bombs to the body Cotto would unleash. I could see Floyd quitting on his stool.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Sep 26, 2009 3:12 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
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