Official: 1 million buys for Mayweather-Marquez
by SC on Sep 25, 2009 11:10 AM EDT
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As promised, HBO released a statement this morning confirming that the Mayweather-Marquez pay-per-view on September 19 did an astounding one million buys. The release said 525,000 buys came from cable, and 475,000 from satellite. $52 million of pay-per-view revenue was generated by the fight.
Mayweather is a pay-per-view superstar, and there is no questioning that anymore. The disappointing live draw is so much less important than these numbers that it can't be overstated. The much better-hyped, frankly, May fight between Ricky Hatton and Manny Pacquiao did about 825-850,000 buys on pay-per-view in the States. It was a combination of Floyd's return and the always-loyal Mexican PPV audience, I'm guessing, that drove this fight's great success.
And we haven't even heard how the theater showings for Mayweather-Marquez went over from a business standpoint.
Bottom line: This fight was huge, way bigger than just about anybody expected. The fight had a late-week surge of interest that you could almost feel just from gauging online buzz. It exploded in those final days leading up to the event, but even with that, I expected nowhere near 1,000,000 buys. I figured 750K, maybe a bit more, at the very most. This is a stunning performance on pay-per-view. At the box office, Floyd Mayweather Jr. has backed up his mouth, and whether you love him or hate him, it looks like you paid to see him.
Congratulations to everyone involved in the promotion. What more can you say? They deserve great admiration for the business they drummed up with this bout. It's great news for boxing and yet another clear statement that this sport is nowhere near "dead."
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Suprised
I wonder how many Buys would Mosley vs Mayweather would get.
by rgb on Sep 25, 2009 11:21 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Outstanding numbers
Congrats to everyone involved. We didn’t have to pay any extra in the UK either SC ;) It really is a colossal triumph though, given the general view of how competitive the fight would actually be beforehand.
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by BrianBrock on Sep 25, 2009 11:22 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
AKA Money Mayweather beat UFC
I’m not shock by the numbers you had the best P4P fighter making his come back. HELLO…. UFC don’t go head to head with Mayweather – Pacman LOL !
by Bizmark707 on Sep 25, 2009 11:23 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
The UFC did NOT go head to head with boxing...
just to make sure we’re keeping facts straight. The UFC card was booked for the date first.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Sep 25, 2009 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
For the umpteenth time
It was on a date when there’s ALWAYS a big boxing card. It’s the weekend of Mexican Independence Day. That’s like booking on the day of the Puerto Rican Day Parade and being surprised when you’re going head to head with a Cotto fight. If Mayweather-Marquez hadn’t been on that day, there would have been some other huge PPV involving Mexicans on that day instead.
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by Brickhaus on Sep 25, 2009 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The date was booked by the UFC before anything else. That’s all I’m saying. They didn’t CHOOSE to go head to head with Mayweather. Any other show on that date wasn’t going to do a million buys.
I’m not willing to accept a “boxing owns that date” argument
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by Brent Brookhouse on Sep 25, 2009 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I guess what I'm saying...
is that the only card that could have bothered the UFC was something featuring either Floyd, Manny or JMM on that date. All of those guys were tied up so it wasn’t going to be an issue (sorry…some Mexican fighter heavy card wouldn’t have done massive buys), then the Mayweather date got shifted. If that doesn’t happen the UFC could give a crap about boxing’s history on that date.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Sep 25, 2009 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gotcha
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by Brickhaus on Sep 25, 2009 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If Mayweather-Marquez hadn’t been on that day, there would have been some other huge PPV involving Mexicans on that day instead.
I know what you mean, but at the same time, Marquez would’ve still been recovering from the ass-beating he got from Mayweather in July, and who else is there really? There could’ve been a JCC Jr. card or something, but UFC wasn’t going to break a sweat over something like that. They tried to put together a bigger fight for 103 once the Mayweather date moved for a reason. I don’t think they would’ve tried to change a thing about 103 if it had been a Latin Fury show against them.
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by SC on Sep 25, 2009 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
UFC need a 24/7 show
When you have HBO promoting you in primetime 4 weeks before the big night it can only help. Boxing need to go on network tv with the Mayweather Pacquiao fight.
by Bizmark707 on Sep 25, 2009 12:04 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
They actually did have one for GSP-BJ Penn, which was pretty entertaining.
by cyke on Sep 25, 2009 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I thought that GSP/Penn one sucked, and I’m a huge GSP fan.
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by The Kittitas Kid on Sep 25, 2009 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The good news: This fight did 1 million PPV buys!!!
The bad news: This fight did 1 million PPV buys.
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by jrok on Sep 25, 2009 12:36 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
The fact that Oscar-Mayweather did 2.4 million buys
and then this fight did over 1 million probably means that there’s a fair number of people out there who just like to watch Mayweather perform his mastery, boring style notwithstanding.
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by Brickhaus on Sep 25, 2009 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i kind of do
at least when the other guy tries to do something. jmm just stood there
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by battle axe of doom on Sep 25, 2009 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wasn't really talking about his style
More about the quality of the matchmaking.
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by jrok on Sep 25, 2009 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
In any case...
and then this fight did over 1 million probably means that there’s a fair number of people out there who just like to watch Mayweather perform his mastery
Why do I continue to doubt this? From what I’ve seen, most casual fans of boxing like destructive knockouts, just like casual baseball fans like homers, and casual football fans like Terrell Owens. Those dudes over at Miller’s place last weekend looked like they were struggling to stay awake.
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by jrok on Sep 25, 2009 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think it was the fight putting them to sleep
I was struggling to keep my eyes open as well.
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by Brickhaus on Sep 25, 2009 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe it was me, then
I’m more exciting when I’m punching people.
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by jrok on Sep 25, 2009 6:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No, wasn't you either
Just think about what you didn’t do that everyone else did…
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by Brickhaus on Sep 25, 2009 9:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That wasn't it, Brick
I’ve been out drinking with those guys tonight, and I actually brought up the fight. Mark, the guy sitting to my right all night who was drawn into boxing watching the Diaz / Marquez fight, enjoyed the whole experience. He definitely enjoyed taking in PBF’s stylish mastery of the sweet science.
Why is everyone so surprised that casual fans are excited by watching Mayweather?
Why do they like watching him?
Because they have never seen such athletic skill from a boxer, and it’s exciting. They don’t care about the backstory and Floyd’s resume at 147. Or the media magnifying glass.
They like watching Floyd because the man has skills. He gives them/us a peak at greatness. As does Pacquiao. I really think a lot of it is an internet thing. There is such a thing as an internet echo chamber for boxing. i think it’s a good thing, overall, and we’re usually right. Not this time though.
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by Matt Miller on Sep 26, 2009 2:17 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I keep trying to convince people of this, but I don’t think it’s sinking in. What the diehard fans find boring actually can be enjoyable for casual fans/newbies. Mayweather does things other guys not just don’t do, but can’t.
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by SC on Sep 26, 2009 2:55 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think I get it
I still feel awfully dumb, though. I mean, do casual fans know what they are looking at enough to really understand the mastery? Did they know it was a mismatch and didn’t care, or did they not know? When Floyd weighed in at 146, did they get why people were up-in-arms, or do they think of “two pounds” the way the average person thinks of two pounds?
It’s not that I’m not entertained by watching Mayweather… I am! But I’m not entertained by mismatches. I was bored stiff watching Pavlik-Lockett and Cotto-Jennings for instance. I guess one fight that comes to mind is Whitaker-McGirt II. I really liked that fight, and I still pull out the tape once in awhile and watch it. Whitaker thoroughly outclassed McGirt, but it wasn’t some kind physical “mismatch.” it was exciting.
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by jrok on Sep 26, 2009 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
do casual fans know what they are looking at enough to really understand the mastery?
Kind of? I dunno. And I’m not saying this to be Johnny Professor on Mayweather and The Casual Fans, but as I’ve said, I’ve seen this happen during Floyd’s last three fights, where casual fans get really into him because he’s so good. It’s no bullshit, and it surprised the hell out of me the first two fights I saw it happen (Oscar and Hatton, of course).
They know what they’re seeing is special, and really that’s all that matters. They haven’t seen the Barrera-Morales or anything, you know?
Did they know it was a mismatch and didn’t care, or did they not know?
They seemed to be able to tell that Floyd was bigger than Marquez, and noticeably so to the point where they might go, “What weight are they?” But it’s hard to explain to them, “This Marquez guy really has no shot.” Well then why the fuck are they fighting? they might ask. Money, I might reply. But that’s just a whole other side. Most people don’t really care about this stuff. Boxing buffs care, casual fans just like seeing Guy Who Wins. They’re told he’s a big deal, so he’s a big deal, and then to boot, he can pull off some incredible athletic shit.
It’s not that I’m not entertained by watching Mayweather… I am! But I’m not entertained by mismatches. I was bored stiff watching Pavlik-Lockett and Cotto-Jennings for instance.
They would be, too (I didn’t have enough time with either fight to get bored myself). They’d be bored not because it’s a mismatch, but because they don’t know nor do they give a flying fuck about Kelly Pavlik, Gary Lockett, Miguel Cotto or Michael Jennings. The E! Network never had them talking about anything, they’ve never been on TMZ, they were never on Dancing with the Stars, never at WrestleMania. Those four guys — as good and big as two of them are within boxing — have zero crossover appeal and most people couldn’t pick one of them out of a lineup, which might change for Cotto soon. Mayweather has become a star in other walks of life, and that apparently was still going for him. Good for him. It didn’t make Mayweather-Marquez any more exciting for the likes of you and me, but a lot of people might well have been just dandy with what they saw.
Of course, it’d be nice if they could see him next against someone that might actually be able to hit him, but that’s another story. Imagine how crazy excited they might get for B-List Celebrity Floyd Mayweather in what would actually be, in boxing circles, “a good fight.”
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by SC on Sep 26, 2009 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Imagine how crazy excited they might get for B-List Celebrity Floyd Mayweather in what would actually be, in boxing circles, "a good fight."
I guess that’s what I meant. I wish boxing was as even half as popular as it was when I was growing up, that we would see big fights or even prospects on network TV, and that you could just have a random conversation with someone about various fighters and fights. Having lots of people see great fights instead of just the cult of personality seems like the best way to get there. Imagine if 15 or 20 million people had watched the IV-RM trilogy?
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by jrok on Sep 26, 2009 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It’s funny that you bring up Whitaker. Just today in the car, I was listening to a little bit of sports talk radio, and someone called in to talk about the fight. This caller was going on about how much he enjoys watching Mayweather even though he isn’t a knockout artist but is more like a Pernell Whitaker. At which post the host interrupted him to say, “Well, come on. Whitaker was a good fighter, but Mayweather is just in a different class.”
I think the best way to describe the tone with which the host was talking about Floyd is “awestruck.” It’s the same way people used to talk about Tiger Woods when he was still new. That’s what the casual fan honestly believes – that Floyd Mayweather is to boxing as Tiger Woods is to golf. People believe all kinds of stuff they’re told to believe if they’re too lazy to actually go out and learn about the topic.
by taco pal on Sep 26, 2009 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well said. I wonder how Floyd’s performance in this fight will affect how people buy or view other events.
by cyke on Sep 25, 2009 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Seconded
Doubt we made many converts from the casual to the hardcore with that one.
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by The Kittitas Kid on Sep 25, 2009 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Actually all anyone was talking about was how great Floyd performed. Casual “boxing” fans love his style and attitude it’s just those that only care for defense hate watching him. The fight was entertaining as well
by gunranger on Sep 25, 2009 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Matchmaking, not style
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by jrok on Sep 25, 2009 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think casual fans like what they think they’re supposed to like. We live in a country of starf***ers. American sports fans follow athletes the same way that American pop culture aficionados follow celebrities. If the media tells them that X is great and that X’s Event is huge, then people will watch X’s Event. (Don’t get me wrong, Mayweather really is an excellent boxer. But his popularity isn’t based on that.)
As for whether Mayweather’s performance was enjoyable – it was plenty enjoyable if and only if you believed that it was an accurate representation of how good he is compared to his peers. When Tyson was knocking out Tyrell Biggs and Tony Tubbs, lots of people (including myself) thought he was the greatest thing since sliced bread. They were mismatches, but Tyson really was that dominant at that time, so it was legit.
That explains the difference between the reactions of serious fans and casual fans. Most casual fans had barely even heard of Marquez before the fight. They either (1) believed GBP’s hype about Marquez being a good proxy for Pacquiao, or (2) believed that all other boxers in the world are truly inferior, thus making mismatch fights legit. Serious fans recognized that there are many boxers who would have done better than Marquez. It was that knowledge that made the fight unenjoyable.
by taco pal on Sep 25, 2009 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
i’m going to give all the props to oscar who tried his damndest to keep this fight in the minds of everyone and it paid off. everyone gave up, and oscar kept churning out ridiculous quotes about JMM’s chances
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by battle axe of doom on Sep 25, 2009 12:55 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
FIX YOUR FACES HATERS… MAYWEATHER IS THE TRUTH WHEN IT COMES TO KICKING ASS AND PEOPLE SHOULD JUST RESPECT THAT. ITS THE HAND SPEED THAT IS DISPLAYED AND THE PUMMELING THAT GOES WITH IT. PEOPLE WANT TO SEE THAT. LET’S BE HONEST PEOPLE, THE WAY HE BEAT MARQUEZS’ ASS IT ALMOST LOOKED LIKE IT WAS A CHOREOGRAPHED FIGHT… LIKE MADE FOR T.V. SHIT FROM HOLLYWOOD. MAYWEATHER HIT THAT GUY WITH A LEFT AND RIGHT HOOK PLUS ANOTHER SHORT LEFT JAB BEFORE MARQUEZ THREW HIS PUNCH AND WHEN IT DID COME HE STILL HAD TIME TO DUCK OUT THE WAY…. THAT’S CRAZY. IF YOU DIDN’T SEE THE FIGHT DO SO. DON’T HATE BUT INSTEAD WATCH AND RESPECT THE TALENT AND NOTHING ELSE. ALSO MARQUEZ DRUNK ALL THAT URINE FOR NOTHING… I HAD TO MENTION THAT!!! IT DIDN’T HELP.
by Haans Bishop on Sep 25, 2009 1:12 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
THE CAPITAL LETTERS MEANS HE REALLY MEANS IT, HATERS!
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by jrok on Sep 25, 2009 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
another way of describing the fight...
would be to say that Mayweather beat up a much smaller guy who was Predictably far slower at the weight. As a competitive fight it sounded like nonsense on paper at the weight and it was in reality. This is also the guy that thought ‘screw making weight’ even though JMM was already coming up 9lbs from his previous highest weight of his career. A move without class and one which gave him a further advantage he didn’t need. But thats Floyd, safety-first. And his ‘you wanna know the truth?’ explanation for that was not even on the level of ‘the dog ate my homework’.
So he was much quicker than JMM, in what way was that surprising? Its nice to see his skills, he’s super-talented and I look forward to seeing him in more ‘real’ fights with fighters at his weight and showing those skills in a ‘fairer’ fight.
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by BrianBrock on Sep 25, 2009 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
you're right too, nobody's hating
It would just be nice to have all the acclaim for the performance after he did it against someone his own size, which will happen soon enough, an actual test….
I hated every minute of training, but I said, ‘’Don’t quit. Suffer now and live the rest of your life as a champion.'’ (Bernard Hopkins)
by BrianBrock on Sep 25, 2009 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Really
Mayweather Beat a Smaller Marquez, Floyd is Fast no doubt about that. Floyd is SCARED to fight Mosley it doesn’t matter what happened in the Past, they should fight . Floyd won’t do with Mosley what he did with Marquez both fighters same Size and Weight. Nobody is Hating
by rgb on Sep 25, 2009 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why I think this fight did so well
I am don’t hate Mayweather because talent like that can’t be denied and it must respected. Is he cocky and all that? Yes he is. But I think that any fighter must have that mentality or else they will end up getting hurt in the ring. But, that doesn’t mean I’m a fan of his.
The two things three things needed to make a fight generate this much money is a fighter with a unique personality. He is loud, brash and extremely vocal. Second, and something that no one mentions is the ethnicity of both boxers. African and Mexican fighters generate so much money because both ethnicities make a huge part of the boxing fan population. But at the same time, the Mexican population needs to truly have a belief in the boxer and that he has a boxers shot at winning. That is why a Mayweather vs. Vargas would not generate as much as this fight did. The fillipino boxing fans have grown due to Paquiao so i’m curious how much money that would generate. Either way, the boxers ethnicities is a huge aspect in regards to boxing matches generating money. Just look at how many Hatton fans travelled to see him. The Great Why Hype movie was hilarious but it had a point.
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by PURPLE AND GOLD FOR LIFE on Sep 25, 2009 1:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Purple and Gold
Please welcome the 2010 Super Bowl Champions, your Minnnnessootaaaa VIKINGS.
That’s what you mean by purple and gold right?
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by lcollins1 on Sep 25, 2009 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
ahhh yes the Lakers
and which ‘Lakes’ is that LA based franchise referencing in their logo? Well none other than the great 10,000(+) of Minnnesssootaaa.
Purple and Gold baby.
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by lcollins1 on Sep 25, 2009 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just hope your “olden” boy doesn’t fade down the stretch or retire.
by cyke on Sep 25, 2009 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not so sure about that
Considering Kobe Bryant is in his avatar
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by Brickhaus on Sep 25, 2009 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
ROCKETS FOR LIFE
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by battle axe of doom on Sep 25, 2009 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Icollins1
Thank you for welcoming me. I will always enjoy banter from opposing teams fan’s.
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by PURPLE AND GOLD FOR LIFE on Sep 25, 2009 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
There's a difference
There’s nothing wrong with talking shit, if you can back it up when the time comes. See people see that as being arrogant and it’s not. If you feel that confident about an ordeal and you "know’ that you put the work in …. It’s not being cocky or arrogant. Displays of being cocky or arrogant would be that dumb ass fighter MAYORGA. That dumb ass smokes cigarettes during training and in the ring.
by Haans Bishop on Sep 25, 2009 1:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Again, Kobe put the work in. It’s called a, “over achiever”.
by Haans Bishop on Sep 25, 2009 2:08 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
yeah he put the ‘work’ in, to the tune of nine stitches…
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by lcollins1 on Sep 25, 2009 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mayweather
So is Mayweather just sitting in his big boy mansion today flicking off a picture of Bob Arum and laughing about quotes by Freddie “the joke coach” Roach? This news makes me think that Mayweather v Mosley could do almost 800K, which would be ridiculous. Add in the sheer amount of smack talking that will be going on and the Mosley fight could go near 1 mil again. This number is also a huge negotiating chip for Money in trying to make the Pacquiao fight. For the pacman to keep pace they are going to need to get at least 800K buys and sell out the arena, minimum. Hopefully this will motivate Bob Arum to put some better fights on the undercard…. Now that Valero is pretty much out who is fighting on the undercard?
by waldo47 on Sep 25, 2009 2:22 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Mosley fights have historically always underperformed expectations
Not sure why, they just have.
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by Brickhaus on Sep 25, 2009 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
let me just add, that crowd at the movie theater i watched the fight at was very pro-Mayweather and thoroughly enjoyed the beatdown he laid on Marquez and also laughed uproariously when Roger was mic’d up in the corner…there were hardly any Mexicans, don’t underestimate Floyd’s popularity with the hip hop crowd, to assume that the Mexicans were the bulk of ppv buyers would be naive
by JohnUtah on Sep 25, 2009 2:58 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I don’t think it’s naive at all. The fact you mentioned that you saw it in a movie theater seems contradictory because theaters aren’t counted the same way as Cable/Satellite buys.
by black dragon on Sep 25, 2009 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You sure about that?
I honestly don’t know. But I suspect the movie theater numbers are included in the satellite numbers, much like showings at bars and such are included in those numbers.
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by Brickhaus on Sep 25, 2009 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Do they count each theater as one buy, or each ticket as one buy?
by taco pal on Sep 25, 2009 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Does not count as a PPV buy, according to Dan Rafael's chat today.
Q: Does each ticket bought for viewing last weeks fight in a movie theater count toward the PPV numbers, or is it just the residential buys?
Dan: No, the movie tickets go in the closed circuit revenue line.
by Polish Rifle on Sep 25, 2009 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
this fight had great promotion
its no wonder why this fight has such a big ppv number – i cant recall the last time i saw so much promo for a boxing match. i wish that all marquee boxing matches can get this same type of promoion – it would definitly help the sport.
p.s – i thought the fight was lame.
by jerranamo on Sep 25, 2009 4:13 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
This is a joke right? The promotion companies were pretty much universally panned because of how poorly they were marketing the fight. The fact that there were near a mil buys is pretty much nothing short of a miracle, henceforth why everyone is shocked at these numbers. Everyone underestimated the driving force of FMM and Mexican independence day, which is apparently huge!
by waldo47 on Sep 26, 2009 5:33 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I credit HBO a LOT in this case. Where the promoters may have come up short (IMO, anyway, looks like they did OK to the public at large), HBO picked up the slack with a great 24/7 and some excellent hype.
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by SC on Sep 26, 2009 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
note on the theaters
Dan Rafael said in today’s chat at ESPN.com that they played to about 70% capacity, a big success that was more than they expected.
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"Well Howie, I think I'm going to stay outside and outjab him." -- Tex Cobb telling Howard Cosell how he would approach Larry Holmes
by SC on Sep 25, 2009 7:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Is it normal to get a PM box full of gay porn in a boxing forum?
I ask because me and a couple other people have been bombarded all day.
Not hating. Just find it weird is all.
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by RoyalB on Sep 25, 2009 7:40 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Might be from another site? I have not received any lately.
by Polish Rifle on Sep 25, 2009 8:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It’s not here. We don’t even have PM boxes.
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"Well Howie, I think I'm going to stay outside and outjab him." -- Tex Cobb telling Howard Cosell how he would approach Larry Holmes
by SC on Sep 25, 2009 8:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oops, did not notice the PM part. Thought he was referring to email spam.
by Polish Rifle on Sep 26, 2009 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Are you by any chance a David Haye fan?
There might be some crossover.
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by jrok on Sep 25, 2009 8:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Zing!
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by Brickhaus on Sep 25, 2009 9:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
A lot of them are moderated rather poorly, so it happens.
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"Well Howie, I think I'm going to stay outside and outjab him." -- Tex Cobb telling Howard Cosell how he would approach Larry Holmes
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Well it looks like the mexicans just didnt feel like eating oysters that night…
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Bad Left Hook
"Well Howie, I think I'm going to stay outside and outjab him." -- Tex Cobb telling Howard Cosell how he would approach Larry Holmes
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