Roy Jones, Bernard Hopkins agree in principle to 2010 rematch
by Scott Christ on Sep 25, 2009 8:18 PM EDT
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Before anyone gets TOO excited, do remember that this has happened before. These two have agreed to fight and then the money becomes an issue and nothing happens.
But, Dan Rafael of ESPN.com reports that Roy Jones Jr. and Bernard Hopkins have agreed in principle to a 2010 rematch, a quick follow-up on Jones discussing the fight just the other day. The deal is pretty simple. They're agreeing to a 50-50 split, unless there is a knockout. In that event, 60% goes to the winner, 40% to the loser. It's incentive for them to bring it and go for the finish.
Golden Boy's Richard Schaefer and Square Ring's John Wirt hammered out the deal. The fight depends on Jones winning his December 2 bout in Australia with Danny Green, a dangerous enough fighter to beat Jones for sure, and now an even more interesting fight.
Like I said the other day, I'm happy with it. I'd LOVE if they'd not try to sell this thing on pay-per-view, but they will. Both are egomaniacs -- no offense to either of them, they've earned their opinions of themselves -- and will want plenty of money to make this happen, and it's probably the biggest fight for either of them, too. But neither of them exactly sold like hotcakes in their last PPV outings, back-to-back in October and November of 2008. Hopkins did just 195,000 buys against Kelly Pavlik and has never been a major drawing card, and Jones did 225,000 the next month against Joe Calzaghe, less than half of what HBO and the fighters/promoters were projecting.
As a pay-per-view, this looks like the Seniors Tour fight some may criticize it for being. As a World Championship Boxing event, it's very inviting, a treat for fans of both men. But if the promoters and networks feel it out and believe this can make money on PPV, they'll go there, and I'll be there to buy it. Roy still has a very loyal fanbase that has never abandoned him, and B-Hop has his fans, too. We'll see how it all shakes out from here, and this fight is no guarantee yet, but it all looks good for now.
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Jones needs to pull out from the Green fight
Seriously it makes no sense to risk it and ruin this fight. Plus he won’t be ready in a month or two after.
It’s really good money is the big problem. They’re going to do a very big house down there.
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by Scott Christ on Sep 25, 2009 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions
He'll probably make more money on the Green fight than the Hopkins fight.
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Unless the Aussie dollar has gone down the toilet
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bernard can do much much better than roy.
id rather see an all philly fight with him and steve cunningham
@mikefareri on twitter.
bernard can do much much better than roy.
Tell his wallet.
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"Well Howie, I think I'm going to stay outside and outjab him." -- Tex Cobb telling Howard Cosell how he would approach Larry Holmes
by Scott Christ on Sep 25, 2009 10:09 PM EDT up reply actions
A bit late but...
I think this fight will be pretty good.
I think people have been a bit harsh on RJJ. He’s defeintely past his sublime prime self but he’s still a pretty decent fighter IMO.
Could be an interesting fight that makes for good nostalgia.
He’s defeintely past his sublime prime self but he’s still a pretty decent fighter IMO.
Still definitely top 10 at 175, you could argue him as top five, even. Weak, old division slowly changing that, but he’s still a contender there.
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"Well Howie, I think I'm going to stay outside and outjab him." -- Tex Cobb telling Howard Cosell how he would approach Larry Holmes
by Scott Christ on Sep 25, 2009 10:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Top 5 is a tough sell
I can’t see him beating someone like Cloud even, and Campillo or Pascal would give him a damn tough fight.
The Green fight will prove a lot. Green was a solid fighter back in his day, but sort of a Clinton Woods type. Tough guy without a ton of talent who makes the most of what he has.
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Hopefully it happens, at what weight would they fight?
by AllDayBoxing on Sep 25, 2009 11:26 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
175 I'd guess
I don’t think Hop can really go over that.
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"Well Howie, I think I'm going to stay outside and outjab him." -- Tex Cobb telling Howard Cosell how he would approach Larry Holmes
by Scott Christ on Sep 26, 2009 2:00 AM EDT up reply actions
Yet you wanted to see Hopkins/Adamek?
Boxing is the beginning of all sports. I'm willing to bet that the first sport was a man against another man in a fight. (Omar Epps)
Hops would come in at 180
Much like Jones will come in at 180 against Green.
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For historical significance, yes, and I don’t think he would’ve weighed much over 180 or so. It would’ve been one of the few interesting things for a 45-year old fighter to do. I mean as great as he is, he did just take all of 2009 off and we really have no idea if he won’t just be a rickety old fart the next time we see him. I also cooled on the idea of Adamek-Hopkins considerably the more I thought about it and would actually prefer to just see Jones-Hopkins II. I know many will disagree.
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"Well Howie, I think I'm going to stay outside and outjab him." -- Tex Cobb telling Howard Cosell how he would approach Larry Holmes
by Scott Christ on Sep 26, 2009 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes me too. It’s good for the sport i think. Put ur personal rankings and opinions away folks on this one !! It’s just two well known established legends with a disliking of each other going at it!! Grab a beer and enjoy the show folks !! I considerably oppose the 17 year removal from the first fight though.This fight should’ve happened five or six years ago.Much less significant now,but everyone knows the big paycheck will be collected by both fighters and that’s the major factor in both corners I presume.
i have a weird relationship with the almighty b-hop. i don’t like watching him fight since the past few fights have been boring (except the pavlik fight & i havne’t seen the two taylor fights), but for some reason i love the guy. he’s an ultimate badass and i wanna see him whup roy’s ass
The Dude Abides
by battle axe of doom on Sep 26, 2009 12:06 AM EDT reply actions
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