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Mandatory Eight Count: Potential shake-up at HBO?

Kelly Pavlik and Paul Williams needed each other. On December 5, both get the chance to prove themselves. (AP Photo)

HBO and Boxing - At a Crossroads | MaxBoxing.com
Thomas Hauser takes a look at a potentially huge boxing story. Could Ross Greenburg be in trouble at HBO? Senior management reportedly wants to hear a real "plan" from Greenburg, and one source says, "The problem is that any plan Ross puts forward will be met with skepticism because, when it comes to boxing, his biggest initiatives have failed. His plan to hitch HBO’s wagon to Golden Boy and the Golden Boy output deal have been a disaster. And the idea of anointing Victor Ortiz, Alfredo Angulo, James Kirkland, Robert Guerrero, and Chris Arreola as HBO’s stars of the future doesn’t look so good."

Pavlik Can Put All The Garbage On The Curb With A Win Over LTP
We're all thinking it, Michael Woods writes about it: Paul Williams is the fight Kelly Pavlik desperately needed after a two-year middleweight championship reign that has failed to impress anyone and a rocky 2009 that has had many fans jumping overboard.

The fight of his life - Yahoo! Sports
An outstanding story on James Kirkland from Yahoo! Sports columnist Josh Peter.

Robert Guerrero Back With Goossen Tutor After Appeal Win
A Goossen Tutor press release confirms that Robert Guerrero is back with that promotional company after having left them for Golden Boy. The whole situation was always challenged by Goossen Tutor, and in the end it turns out they were right after an arbitration hearing. Long story short, Guerrero isn't a Golden Boy fighter anymore.

Lou DiBella ready to unleash prospects - ESPN
Lou DiBella talks about two of his young fighters, Antwone Smith and Marcus Johnson, who will both be fighting on Shobox this Friday night.

Who is Marcus Johnson? You’re About to Find Out - BoxingScene.com
Speaking of Marcus Johnson, Thomas Gerbasi introduces you to the former amateur star who has racked up a 17-0 (14) record as a pro.

The Last Word On Arreola From Borges: "The Guy Can't Fight"
Ron Borges deeply questions Chris Arreola's commitment.

Vazquez is back and workng to get even better
Michael Rosenthal of The Ring looks at Israel Vazquez's October comeback fight. The 31-year old Vazquez says he started off slow when he started sparring again, but he's starting to get the feel back.

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The HBO deal concerns me

Where does boxing go if it’s not on HBO? The network thing sounds like a pipe dream to me personally.

"I swear to God, I'll take this ******* ball and shove it down your ******* throat" - Serena Williams

by lcollins1 on Sep 30, 2009 8:42 PM EDT reply actions  

I don’t think they’ll wind up with boxing off the network, but it sounds like Ross Greenburg might (if Thomas Hauser’s sources are to be believed) be on the way out. Or this could all wind up being nothing.

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"Well Howie, I think I'm going to stay outside and outjab him." -- Tex Cobb telling Howard Cosell how he would approach Larry Holmes

by Scott Christ on Sep 30, 2009 9:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

As I interpret it

They feel like he doesn’t control costs effectively enough. And they’re right. He pays big bucks for fights nobody else would buy in the hopes that it will lead to a future big fight. That business model just doesn’t work well. Make the big fights, but don’t pay $3M+ for Dawson-Tarver just because you want to get a Dawson-Johnson rematch. They’re just bidding against themselves when they do that (Showtime doesn’t have the budget to compete), and it increases the cost of airing future big fights. What HBO SHOULD be doing is estimating what a PPV would bring in between the two fighters, then guarantee just over that amount. Dawson-Tarver II wasn’t worth $500k, much less $3M.

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"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."

by Brickhaus on Sep 30, 2009 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Greenburg comes across like a nitwit boss from a sitcom. Like Michael Scott without the heart of gold.

by taco pal on Oct 1, 2009 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

ya 'avin' a laugh?

Bad Left Hook - The SB Nation boxing blog
"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."

by Brickhaus on Oct 1, 2009 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

i blame sonofapsycho for this btw

i’m kidding around btw so please don’t ban me for baiting/trolling

The Dude Abides

by battle axe of doom on Sep 30, 2009 11:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Confident your not going to get banned

But, what do you mean? I don’t get the bait.

"I swear to God, I'll take this ******* ball and shove it down your ******* throat" - Serena Williams

by lcollins1 on Oct 1, 2009 1:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

haha yeah all you got do is mention the words hbo/jim lampley/any other hbo-related phrases and sonofapsycho will go on his “hbo is the worst thing to ever exist” posts. we both actually got warned because we went into a semi-flame war over it

The Dude Abides

by battle axe of doom on Oct 1, 2009 1:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

Banned for failure to properly use apostrophe

Bad Left Hook - The SB Nation boxing blog
"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."

by Brickhaus on Oct 1, 2009 2:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

fuck that if boxing is not on HBO i can’t watch it. i NEED hbo boxing

The Dude Abides

by battle axe of doom on Sep 30, 2009 8:46 PM EDT reply actions  

Great article by Hauser

He ain’t the president of the BWAA for nuthin.

Bad Left Hook - The SB Nation boxing blog
"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."

by Brickhaus on Sep 30, 2009 9:48 PM EDT reply actions  

Probably the most knowledgeable, well-researched and thought provoking article on the boxing/broadcaster relationship that I have ever read.

Ultimately, it reads as quite an indictment of Ross Greenburg’s competence as the head of boxing on HBO. If half of the accusations are true, then he should be replaced for the good of the network, the sport and the fans

by thirdslip on Sep 30, 2009 11:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

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