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Juan Manuel Marquez won't let Floyd Mayweather Jr. bore you to death

There are few countries with stronger traditions in boxing than Mexico. Juan Manuel Marquez has inherited the throne as the country's best fighter in recent years. (AP Photo)

There are few countries with stronger traditions in boxing than Mexico. Juan Manuel Marquez has inherited the throne as the country's best fighter in recent years. (AP Photo)

It is a legacy, a tradition, and an honor. In Mexico, they don't make many boxers. But they make a lot of great fighters.

It's not to say that they are unskilled brawlers or crazy sluggers hell-bent on knockouts. Far from it, in fact. The skill level of the best Mexican fighters of this generation is outstandingly high. Marco Antonio Barrera, Erik Morales, Israel Vazquez, and many more have both thrilled us with amazing guts and wowed us with their pure talent and boxing brains. For as action-crazed as all three men could get, they were/are also very good boxers.

The most talented of them all, however, may be the man who more inherited the throne than anything else. Juan Manuel Marquez was seen for years as a great fighter that couldn't get over the hump, couldn't win the big one. Losses to Freddie Norwood and Chris John derailed his career one step before he could perhaps start creeping further into the public's line of sight, and a draw with Manny Pacquiao -- while great for Marquez's career and notoriety -- gave the notion more weight.

It was a March 2007 win over Mexican hero Barrera that finally put him over the top. While the fight was closer than the judges' scorecards and a bit of an underrated mini-classic, with both warriors bringing their best, it was Marquez who came out the victor, and it felt overdue. Finally, Juan Manuel Marquez could get the credit his skills so richly deserved. And it's not that he didn't get any credit; he got plenty. But he deserved even more.

Barrera would retire later in 2007, and unretire the next year. Barrera's rival and fellow Mexican fighting icon Erik Morales also retired in 2007, and plans to come back this year. Barrera and Morales stepping down could have hurt Mexico's boxing reputation to some degree, but they left the country's fighting pride in good hands. Marquez and his brother Rafael along with Rafael's rival Israel Vazquez carried the torch, putting on Fight of the Year candidates and cementing themselves among the sport's best pound-for-pound.

After their third war in 2008, Rafael Marquez and Israel Vazquez both took a break. Top-level boxing in Mexico took a serious blow in January of this year when Antonio Margarito not only got demolished by Shane Mosley, but was also disgraced, and is now seen as a cheater by the vast majority of the boxing audience.

With one hero's name in the mud and two more on the shelf, Juan Manuel Marquez stepped into the ring on February 28 with Mexican-American Juan Diaz, and the two went to war. Marquez eventually knocked Diaz out in the ninth round of an instant classic, and he immediately called out Floyd Mayweather Jr.

Capt I thought then that it was really more of a bait tactic, trying to lure Manny Pacquiao into the third fight Marquez was so desperately chasing. There was no reason for Juan Manuel to be fighting at 135 pounds other than to chase Manny and try to force his hand. Now he was calling out the former welterweight champion?

To my surprise, Mayweather-Marquez is merely two weeks away now. I have been a fairly harsh critic of the fight, its promotion, and pretty much everything else.

But I do not believe it will be a bad fight, as some do. I don't think Juan Manuel Marquez has a bad fight in him anymore. As he's aged and slowed, he's become one of the sport's most reliable must-see men. And with his role as such an underdog and the physical disadvantages he'll face (size, speed, power, defensive acumen -- pretty much the whole nine yards), chances are good Marquez will find himself in a hole against Mayweather on the scorecards.

And will Marquez be content to just not get knocked out and rack up a points loss?

Not a chance. He's just not wired that way.

This fight may very well end with Juan Manuel Marquez flat on his back, knocked silly a la Ricky Hatton when he faced Floyd. But you can bet your bottom dollar that Marquez isn't going to let this turn into one of Floyd's yawn-inducing clinics. If it gets him knocked out, Juan Manuel Marquez will make this a fight.

And the great Mexican tradition will carry on.

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Amen…

God Bless JMM but one thing for sure he will not back down… no matter what the circumstances.

His fights with Manny, Diaz, Casamayor cemented himself as a Mexican icon… Heck even when he was cut up badly vs Jaca he fought thru it knowing that he was ahead. He later got a knockout by a double bad left hook…

Heck… when people ask what is the one thing good in boxing… You can look into fighters like JMM. He is one of the rare breed of fighters who much more than boxing skill but also the epitmode of what it means to overcome adversity.

"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."

by Zocalo on Sep 5, 2009 12:01 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

who have much more than just boxing skill but also have epitome of what it means to overcome adversity.

damn it pushed post instead of preview…lol

"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."

by Zocalo on Sep 5, 2009 12:03 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

The 3rd fight w/ Manny should happen

The 1st 2 were very compelling and so close that results from both fights are still debated to this day.

True, JMM has proven to be the most challenging opponent for him, but Pacquiao has really improved tremendously since their second encounter…..and I do remember the issue for Manny on that one was he was so weight drained and almost didn’t make the 130-lb. limit. Even Roach mentioned that Pac was unusually a hothead prior to fight night, because he wasn’t getting the meals he enjoyed just to make weight.

Fast forward, and 3 fights later, Pac seem to have found the weight class he’s most comfortable with (140-lb.)…see the Hatton destruction. He brought his power to that level and his quickness too. Very unusual.

If it happens, I have a hunch that Pac-JMM 3 will be an awesome and brutal classic – but Pac should/could stop JMM this time and lay to rest the debate about who’s the better fighter.

Pac is an icon. There are probably 2-3 fights left in him. And I do wish JMM is part of the exit plan.

by arch on Sep 5, 2009 5:45 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

How many other people have said that? Everyone gets mesmerized by Mayweather in the ring. It’ll happen to Marquez too.

http://twitter.com/FlyByKnite

by FlyByKnight on Sep 5, 2009 7:36 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Everyone gets mesmerized by Mayweather in the ring.

Floyd’s had some good fights. His last fight was good.

Bad Left Hook
"Well Howie, I think I'm going to stay outside and outjab him." -- Tex Cobb telling Howard Cosell how he would approach Larry Holmes

by SC on Sep 5, 2009 8:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

His last fight was one where Hatton got mesmerized at the speed and footwork of Mayweather. Marquez will have the same problem. After about the fourth round, it’ll be all downhill for Marquez. I’m predicting a stoppage in the sixth but I wouldn’t be surprised to see Marquez go the distance. All I know is that this fight will not be close.

http://twitter.com/FlyByKnite

by FlyByKnight on Sep 5, 2009 9:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

six is too early. money may won’t put the pressure on till late in the fight i think. JMM will basically pull a DLH, move forward throw a bunch of useless punches that don’t land, but this time mayweather will KO his opponent unlike in the DLH fight

The Dude Abides

by battle axe of doom on Sep 6, 2009 1:06 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Fights don’t have to be close to be good. Mayweather-Hatton was a lot of fun.

Bad Left Hook
"Well Howie, I think I'm going to stay outside and outjab him." -- Tex Cobb telling Howard Cosell how he would approach Larry Holmes

by SC on Sep 6, 2009 1:56 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

AS was Rocky-JMM and that was a blowout

by gunranger on Sep 6, 2009 4:04 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i remember that fight being completely miserable

The Dude Abides

by battle axe of doom on Sep 6, 2009 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I wonder why

Bad Left Hook
"Well Howie, I think I'm going to stay outside and outjab him." -- Tex Cobb telling Howard Cosell how he would approach Larry Holmes

by SC on Sep 6, 2009 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

well not just that. everyone knows rocky has trigger issues, and i just don’t remember him doing much if anything at all in that fight.

i distinctly remember rocky fighting back in barrera I & john I, but not against JMM

The Dude Abides

by battle axe of doom on Sep 7, 2009 11:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't think he was criticizing the fans....

Looking at the post in context, I think he means JMM will get mezmerized by Floyd, as all of Floyd’s opponents do. Hence, I think you are both arguig the same point, although I could be wrong.

Boxing is the beginning of all sports. I'm willing to bet that the first sport was a man against another man in a fight. (Omar Epps)

by Chaos100 on Sep 7, 2009 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think...

It’s because Marquez has proven to be Pacquiao’s greatest rival, and we respect that. Also, Marquez as well as most Mexican fighters also tend to be “warrior types” which, because of Pacquiao especially, is a style that appeals to the Filipinos more and more. In fact, it’s a bit distressing that Filipinos complain when Pinoy fighters don’t KO or at least KD an opponent. Pacquiao has spoiled them (us). Not everyone can fight like him and get away with it. Manny is one of the most successful unorthodox fighters I can think of. I’ve always rooted for Pacquiao in his fights against Juan Manuel, but I’ve also been a huge fan of Marquez and his skills. That said, I myself will be rooting for Dinamita in this one. I actually think he’ll go the distance, but lose a lopsided decision against Floyd.

by Areglado on Sep 6, 2009 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

JMM drinks his own urine...

I watched 24/7 (2nd episode) and this guy actually does it. Claims that it allows the consumer of urine to get all the vitamins that they normally piss away. All I could say was wow!!

by SmittytheCutman on Sep 7, 2009 12:10 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Lyoto Machida is famous for doing it

And hey, it’s worked for him so far.

Bad Left Hook
"Well Howie, I think I'm going to stay outside and outjab him." -- Tex Cobb telling Howard Cosell how he would approach Larry Holmes

by SC on Sep 7, 2009 3:02 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's not poisonous, so good for him

I’d just prefer to get extra vitamins elsewhere.

by Polish Rifle on Sep 8, 2009 12:47 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Floyd’s defensive speed will be the difference in this fight. He gets out of the way so well that Marquez will be whiffing a ton during this fight. Mayweather is not like Diaz. He’s not just going to stand there and let Marquez get off. He’ll move and attack when he feels it to be prudent. I just cannot see Marquez making this a close fight. Competitive? Maybe. Close? No. Mayweather just seems to be in the best condition of his career. It seems like his hand issues are gone. He didn’t lose his speed. His defense is still amazing. I see this ending in the sixth, I really do. Mayweather (T)KO – 6th

http://twitter.com/FlyByKnite

by FlyByKnight on Sep 7, 2009 5:01 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

24/7 has proven that he has no rust? i suppose i should be watching it then

my prediction is money may in 10 btw

The Dude Abides

by battle axe of doom on Sep 7, 2009 11:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Mayweather's Defense

Mayweather’s opponents have to first contend with his defense. get past is his defense. Juan Manuel Marquez can do all he wants to try to make an exciting fight or impose his will but I don’t see him getting past Mayweather’s Big D.

Now his offense??? Different story.

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by VeeisAnimated on Sep 8, 2009 10:32 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

You will need more than a big heart to beat Mayweather, you need brains and ring smartness. If you look at all the fighters that he beat, their hearts weren’t the problem. You have to be smart against Mayweather and as you can see none of his opponents are. Fighters for some reason think that they can go in there and impose their will on in, but he ’s not having it. First, you have to respect that this guy can fight and knock your ass out. But what happens is that people forget that and like the Ali fights all they want to do is try to shut his mouth. Bottom line … Mayweather TALKS SHIT… BUT HE CAN BACK IT UP …PERIOD. WHICH IS A PROBLEM!!!

by Haans Bishop on Sep 8, 2009 4:24 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Mayweather said something kind of similar recently. Marquez’s plan might be to come forward and pressure. Well, that hasn’t worked for bigger and stronger guys than him in the past, so is his hope that Mayweather is REALLY rusty?

Bad Left Hook
"Well Howie, I think I'm going to stay outside and outjab him." -- Tex Cobb telling Howard Cosell how he would approach Larry Holmes

by SC on Sep 8, 2009 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

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