Bad Left Hook Divisional Rankings Update: Minor Moves
by Scott Christ on Jan 14, 2010 6:18 PM EST
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It's been a bit since the divisional rankings have been given an update, because not much has happened so far this month. Roman Karmazin's win over Dionisio Miranda was pretty exciting, but not the type of performance to get him into the top ten of even a shallow middleweight division, at least not in my opinion.
There are a few changes, and only one of them is really all that huge.
Cruiserweight
Zsolt Erdei is out, as it's apparent he has zero intention of continuing on in the division. Reports are that he's giving up his belt and moving back to light heavyweight, where he'll probably get a gift opponent to contest the title that he basically gave to Juergen Braehmer, who thanked him by going back to jail. With Erdei out, Yoan Pablo Hernandez returns to the rankings at No. 10.
Light Heavyweight
Braehmer (9) is out, and Erdei is back in at No. 6. Like with James Kirkland, I see no reason to rank a guy who's in jail.
Junior Lightweight
Here's the meaningful update. New WBA titlist Takashi Uchiyama is in at No. 5 after thoroughly outclassing Juan Carlos Salgado, who was No. 6 before. Uchiyama (14-0, 11 KO) would be a real threat to anyone in the division, I think, but most likely he'll just hold the belt hostage in Japan unless he gives a crack at it to former titlist Jorge Linares, and he might just beat Linares anyway. Salgado drops to No. 9, where Mario Santiago falls out. Looks like Santiago is going to get back to 126 pounds for his fight with Bernabe Concepcion in February.
I'm not really sure what do to about Salgado, because he did not look very good at all against Uchiyama, but he's a young fighter with one loss and one good win. Right now, benefit of the doubt, but I won't be shocked if we've already seen the peak of his career.
Junior Featherweight
Everything stays the same except previous No. 10 Rendall Munroe falls out, and Satoshi Hosono enters high at No. 6 in the division. It's a weak division about to get worse, but Hosono's back-and-forth fight with Poonsawat Kratingdaenggym was a damn good performance, and I'd pick him over Lontchi, Dunne, Cordoba, Ruiz, Munroe, etc.
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In terms of Japanese fighters "holding hostage" belts
Tomoki Kameda has been added to the televised undercard of Rubio-Alvarez this weekend. The youngest (18) of the fighting Kameda brothers, he’s facing 26-16 Rodolfo Garay in a nice step up for a fringe title.
More important though is that the talk is that Edgar Sosa’s first fight at 112 will be against Koki Kameda, in Mexico. Could be interesting if true, and would play against the stereotype of Japanese fighters taking easy defenses at home all the time.
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Also, at cruiserweight
You might want to rank Guillermo Jones. I know he hasn’t fought in forever, but he’s still active and has a title defense (that’s been postponed a couple times already) against Brudov in a month.
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You might want to rank Guillermo Jones.
I don’t.
I know he hasn’t fought in forever
That’s why. When he actually fights again (if he wins), he’ll almost surely be ranked upon return.
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by Scott Christ on Jan 14, 2010 8:54 PM EST up reply actions
There are too many weights...
And then there isn’t a super heavyweight.
There is a “Strawweight” though..Geez.
If they made a super heavyweight
Guys would just bulk up even more so that they fall squarely into that weight class. A big part of the reason there are so many fatasses at heavyweight now is because heavyweight used to be anyone over 175 (and then 190), so you could be a legit heavyweight at 210 or so. Now, people feel the need to bulk up to 225 or 230, and most of it is just fat.
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So when posting this, did you think of Chris Arreola when you said “most of its just fat”?
Most of the guys wouldn’t be dominant at that weight class though. Hell, the heavyweight division is only dominated by 2 as it is..
At least it would get more “competition” there.
Not just Arreola
But just the fighters in general. Look even at Tyson’s era. Some of the guys people thought of as being on the chubby side back then look downright svelte now, and I think the addition (and legitimacy) of the cruiserweight division contributed to that quite a bit. Look at the guys in the top 10 at HW. Other than the two guys at the top and David Haye, they all have a little extra padding.
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I think any more weight divisions is a bad thing
so the addition of super heavy would only make things worse. Also these giant heavyweights are quite uncommon and with the decline of the Klitschkos will probably disappar.
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by Drunken cutman on Jan 15, 2010 3:35 AM EST up reply actions
I don’t want fake competition. I want real competition. I don’t need to see the B-squad battle it out for lame belts. If the Klitschkos rule, then the Klitschkos rule.
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by Scott Christ on Jan 15, 2010 4:31 AM EST up reply actions
I can’t argue against a super heavyweight division without going on a major tangent, so let me just say it’s the last thing we need.
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by Scott Christ on Jan 14, 2010 8:54 PM EST up reply actions
Why cater to guys that can’t stay in shape? Why create a division for them? You get a sincere rarity like Nick Valuev who stays in shape (I know he’s flabby, but the man’s body is not that of your typical boxer’s), or you have guys like the Klitschkos. But the 6’7" or taller heavyweight is still not common. Creating a division for them — which just makes another stupid ass division nobody cares about — gives everyone an excuse to not be able to beat the Klitschkos.
Who would the Klitschkos fight? Alex Dimitrenko, Valuev and Gabe Brown?
What you’re doing is saying the Klitschkos are too good for all the lazy, fat guys who don’t take boxing as seriously as they do, so you want to make up new belts for them that put them in some freak division simply because they’re tall, stay in shape and live/sleep/breathe/eat boxing every day of the year. You know who holds the four major titles at heavyweight? The Klitschkos and Haye. Three guys that stay in shape. I’ve said it before: Not a coincidence. And for as much smack as Haye talks, he does take his career seriously, and he is a very talented fighter.
So what a “super heavy” division would accomplish is negligible. You’d be handing out titles to guys like Eddie Chambers, Sam Peter, etc. that haven’t really earned them. I mean I have Eddie as the No. 3 in the world right now, but whatever. If he beats Wladimir consider me stunned.
I just don’t want to create a useless freak division that also serves to hand out charity titles because guys can’t beat the Klitschkos.
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by Scott Christ on Jan 15, 2010 4:28 AM EST up reply actions
It might be timely to discuss this.
According to Fightnews, the ABCs are getting together and one of the items on the agenda is the possible creation of a super heavyweight division. These monsters need to be stopped!!!
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Link
http://www.fightnews.com/?p=35051#more-35051
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I’m probably missing something, but how come Floyd is #2 p4p AND #1 at welterweight? When was the last time he’s fought a real welterweight? When was the last time he’s fought someone who’s not either too small or too old? His last fight was against a bulked-up lightweight. Pacquiao’s last fight was against #4 welterweight who’s also ranked in p4p.
by Monday Morning Martial Artist on Jan 15, 2010 2:41 AM EST reply actions
You may have a valid point there actually
Obviously Pacquiao is very new to the WW division so can’t really be ranked number one, and his p4p status is built on what he’s done in the past, compounded with what he has done at 147. However if he beats Clottey the argument could be made that he has actually already achieved more in the welterweight division than Mayweather.
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by Drunken cutman on Jan 15, 2010 3:45 AM EST up reply actions
It was also the first real welterweight fight of Pacquiao’s career. If Pacquiao beats Clottey and Mayweather doesn’t take a fight against a legitimate welterweight (which he almost can’t since there aren’t any out there he can fight), they’re probably going to flip.
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by Scott Christ on Jan 15, 2010 4:30 AM EST up reply actions
Nard is rated #1 at LHW
And it’s been even longer since he’s fought a LHW. Last time he fought a LHW it was 3 1/2 years ago. Last 5 fights have been against smaller guys moving up. Now he’s finally fighting a LHW, and it’s shot to shit Roy Jones.
Personally, I have Mosley #1 at WW, even though I have him behind Floyd and Pac P4P.
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