Oscar de la Hoya talks Mayweather-Cintron, Kizer talks Mayweather-Mosley
by Scott Christ on Jan 14, 2010 6:38 PM EST
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A couple of things have come up today involving Floyd Mayweather Jr., regarding what could be two fights in just a few months time.
First: Kermit Cintron is emerging as a strong candidate to fight Mayweather, it would appear. Oscar de la Hoya told Puerto Rican writer Carlos Rosario (link via Boxing Scene) that Cintron is a "very great" possibility to face Mayweather in March, but that it's up to Floyd and his team.
People can spin that however they want, and Oscar says that Kermit is one of the best welterweights out there, even though Cintron has been fighting at junior middleweight for a year now, and his best win at welterweight might was against Lovemore N'dou or David Estrada. But hey, Oscar says so, so it must be true.
I mean, I prefer Kermit to Nate Campbell for sure. Campbell is too small and too old, and if nothing else Kermit can bring some thunder. I don't think he'll be able to hit Mayweather with a golf club if they get in there, and I believe Floyd's speed and defensive mastery would have him potshotting Kermit all night long. I mean look at the trouble Cintron had with Sergio Martinez. Admittedly Martinez and Mayweather aren't the same fighter, but Martinez is a cutie and dominated Cintron, no matter what the bogus judges' cards said.
Still, at least he'd have a puncher's chance, which is a whole hell of a lot more than I can say about Campbell or Paul Malignaggi.
Second: Ryan Burton reports that Nevada Athletic Commission executive director Keith Kizer said he's hearing that Golden Boy is looking to stage a fight between Mayweather and Shane Mosley in June. With Mosley fighting on January 30 and Mayweather on March 13, that seems a quick turnaround, especially for Floyd.
I keep saying that Mosley would still have to get past Andre Berto, but hell, maybe he doesn't. Maybe Mosley can lose to Berto and still fight Floyd. Stupider things have happened. People are talking about Mosley-Berto like it's already a done deal, worrying about what Shane will do after his big win. I seem to recall another fight where folks were doing that: Mosley-Margarito.
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If Mosley shines
in his fight with Berto, betcha’ Floyd goes back to his story ‘bout SSM duckin’ him years ago hes lost some fights and on….and on…plus after Pac-Clottey, maybe Pac-Mosley, and Pac gets outta’ the game after that. Becomes a full time politician, part time movie and singin’ star. Peace!!
I think they’d try to work it out. DiBella and Golden Boy are working together quite amicably right now (Diaz-Malignaggi, Mosley-Berto, maybe Mayweather-Kermit) and it should be easy to do. I’m also guessing Berto and DiBella aren’t stupid enough to turn down a 40-60 split offer from Floyd, knowing that 40% of that is a lot more than they can make anywhere else besides maybe Pacquiao.
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by Scott Christ on Jan 14, 2010 7:07 PM EST up reply actions
No way Berto gets offered 40%
He’d get offered a flat amount, the same way Marquez was against Floyd.
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"Stupider things have happened"
Like Hopkins making a rematch with Roy Jones even after he got starched by a fringe contender in one round?
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Cintron is Phillip Ndou 2.0… and we all saw how that went out and it is even worse because everyone doubts Cintron’s desire and heart.
"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."
If Team Manny
was very smart, they would line up Mosley— contingent on Manny beating Clottey and Shane beating Berto—have Manny/Mosley unification all set up thereby leaving Floyd holding his dick in a corner all by himself.
Mosley’s a Golden Boy fighter. Manny-Mosley isn’t happening before Manny-Mayweather does. I think Shane would do it and I think he’d even do it without any of the blood testing stuff, but Golden Boy has made their stance on that clear.
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by Scott Christ on Jan 14, 2010 8:45 PM EST up reply actions
That said, and considering Shane has a position of some power within Golden Boy, they’d have to be able to guarantee him a fight with Floyd and big money. Otherwise I think Shane would make as much of a power play as he can. He just wants to fight.
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by Scott Christ on Jan 14, 2010 8:51 PM EST up reply actions
Good points on Mosley.
Can’t accuse that guy of being more concerned with anything other than being a great fighter.
There is no such thing as innocence, only degrees of guilt.
Interesting.
Given Shane’s history, can’t you see that any fight arranged with Pac, before Floyd is able to fight him, would be cast as cheater against cheater from the Mayweather camp…regardless of prefight testing?
by Pops Daniels on Jan 15, 2010 12:04 AM EST up reply actions
yup
But if the Mayweather camp wants to thus burn the only fight(s) he can make that anybody cares about, good for them. It’d be typical Floyd.
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by Scott Christ on Jan 15, 2010 3:45 AM EST up reply actions
His team's actually kinda doing that now.
I mean, there are close to zero options for Floyd. Roach already wants the winner of Mosley-Berto next, so yeah, Floyd would really find it hard to scramble for an opponent.
No doubt....
I think the majority of intelligent boxing fans want to see PBF – Mosley if they can’t get Pac-Man. IMO Floyd is going to school Cintron IF they fight. Besides Floyd-Manny, it’s gotta be Shane.
by SmittytheCutman on Jan 14, 2010 10:42 PM EST reply actions
Ted Sares
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Just to let you all
know, Ted suffered a subdural hematoma—was rushed from NH to a hospital in Portland, Maine where they could handle the situation. They drilled a hole to relieve the pressure; removed the tube today, and he will hopefully head home tomorrow. Faces a period of rehabilitation, but he’s doing good and ready to begin. I know that everyone’s best wishes will be with him.
by Don From Prov on Jan 15, 2010 6:02 PM EST up reply actions
I think Floyd might be a genius....
Floyd is angling for Cintron because of Berto, also promoted by DiBella. Floyd will try to put in a clause that if he wins and Berto wins that he gets a shot at Berto, effectively guaranteeing Floyd the winner of Berto-Mosley. Shrewd business move Floyd, shrewd…
Well,
shrewd or not it’s a better fight that Paulie or Nate. No great stretch though with a guy that he’s certain to dominate by UD.
by Pops Daniels on Jan 15, 2010 12:06 AM EST up reply actions
All good plans are common sense…thats why they are good.
by Waldo Rastel on Jan 15, 2010 1:45 AM EST up reply actions
I doubt it. Malignaggi is a bigger star, an easier fight, and also promoted by DiBella.
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by Scott Christ on Jan 15, 2010 3:44 AM EST up reply actions
The reason to fight Cintron is that Floyd would have more leverage to demand the Berto clause. The catchweight will be an issue with Paulie so I’m not sure if Floyd can get both the weight and the Berto guarantee. Of course, weight will be an issue with Cintron as well but around 150 should work for everyone.
by Waldo Rastel on Jan 15, 2010 4:01 AM EST up reply actions
What catchweight? No one has talked about doing a catchweight. Floyd fights at 147 and either Malignaggi or Cintron (or anyone else) is going to have to accept that. After the debacle of trying to get to 144 for Marquez, Floyd isn’t going to agree to any more catchweights, and certainly not for the likes of Malignaggi or Cintron, who can’t make half anywhere else what they’ll make to fight Floyd (except with Pacquiao).
Floyd probably isn’t looking at Cintron because of Andre Berto. If Floyd snaps his fingers and accepts the terms, he can make a fight with anyone in the sport. He doesn’t need Kermit Cintron to get Andre Berto. He’s looking at Cintron because it should be an easy fight for him, DiBella and Golden Boy are working together a lot lately, and he already is winning in that everyone’s going, “Well at least it isn’t Nate Campbell.”
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by Scott Christ on Jan 15, 2010 6:47 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah I thought regular boxing norms were in effect, not the ’I’m Floyd Mayweather’ rules. If Cintron has to boil down to 147, that fight will not be interesting at all. I would rather see Paulie at that point honestly since it looks like he at least has the speed necessary to make it a boxing match with Floyd (not saying he has a chance but he might land punches and make Floyd work a little more than the Marquez fight).
by Waldo Rastel on Jan 15, 2010 1:40 PM EST up reply actions
Paulie's a DiBella fighter also
So he could just as easily go there if that’s what he wanted.
If this fight happens, it’s the equivalent of a kid asking for a tattoo so he can get an earring instead. By being the lesser of two evils, Cintron almost looks like a good choice, even if he isn’t.
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by Brickhaus on Jan 15, 2010 9:07 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Mayweather v Mosley
Totally agree with your article SC.No one should be sleeping on Berto.There are a lot of factors going on here;Mosley is a year older than the Margo fight.Was Margo overrated cos of the possible long term loaded gloves thing??Berto is improving all the time and is young and hungry.Saying that,we know that 147 is Shane’s best weight and the times he has looked average have all been at 154.I’m looking forward to this fight between 2 speedsters and i make Shane the favourite but Berto is most definitely a live ‘dog.
By the way,wtf are Floyd’s demands going to be like in a Mosley fight,against a proven former banned substance user?
Even if Mosley loses...
I’d still wanna see Mosley-Mayweather.
I don’t think it really matters if he wins or loses to me. Sure Berto would be more deserving, but that doesn’t mean it still wouldn’t be a good fight between the two.
Oh and Mayweather - Cintron
Not interested. I’d watch it on HBO (which wont happen), but I’d be pretty hesitant about ordering it on PPV. Pac-Clotty would get my money, unless Margarito is on the undercard.
Uncle Roger
Just read that Las Vegas authorities have been given the go ahead to put Roger on trial for battery of that female boxer, allegedly she was offered a fight with ‘lil Floyd if she dropped charges. Floyd denied it,.. saying she wasn’t a PPV draw. Peace!!
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