Schaefer: Floyd-Mosley on 3/13 "unlikely"
Kevin Iole at Yahoo! Sports has a piece up right now on the rumored Floyd Mayweather Jr.-Shane Mosley showdown. For those thinking it'll happen on March 13, forget it, and be happy since that'll mean you won't be forced to pick between two very good (even great) fights.
Richard Schaefer says, as you might expect, that March 13 just won't work with the short timeframe available, and that he "would not want to" go against Pacquiao-Clottey that way:
"I’m going to sit down with our marketing people, and our sponsors, as well, and determine what the right time frame would be to properly promote and activate that fight," Schaefer said. "On the surface, with March 13 just around the corner, I don’t think that would be the right thing to do. If you’re going with a super mega fight like that to go against Pacquiao-Clottey. I think that would be totally wrong and I would not want to do that."
Iole believes as I do that May 1 seems the most likely date. It's been talked about recently, and even though it was being held for Juan Manuel Marquez, well, money talks. Marquez's fight will likely be against either Michael Katsidis or Juan Diaz, with Ricky Hatton looking like a darkhorse right now. None of those fights come close to Mayweather-Mosley.
Golden Boy also has the Hopkins-Jones rematch on April 17, and everyone would be loathe to put on two major boxing PPVs in one month. Even if they might want to, chances are you seriously affect one of the shows.
This will probably all work out soon so that everyone can get the proper hype train going.
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Ok Floyd
This is an easy obvious choice. Don’t f__k this one up. Nice hanging curveball for you to hit it out of the park. All you need to do is swing!
Mosley won't be the one who makes it unravel,
no matter how Floyd tries to spin it afterwards.
There is no such thing as innocence, only degrees of guilt.
In the words of Chad Ochocinco
Child Please.
Don’t go drinking the Floyd Haterade. This fight will happen, because they both want it to happen. Don’t come crying to me when it does.
Dude, I'm one of the original
mixers of the Floyd Haterade. Dude never had to do anything in front of a mic for me to dislike him, he’s always rubbed me wrong, even though I can appreciate the level of his game.
I’m stoked for him to fight someone with actual skills. I do wish he’d taken on Mosley when they were both in their prime, rather than when only one of them is, but Shane has had a nice little resurgence here and I’m glad to see him get a crack at the zero.
There is no such thing as innocence, only degrees of guilt.
Blame Mosley for that
Floyd tried to fight him when they were at 130-135. Shane didn’t want none.
Shane was chasing De La Hoya at the time, who was then the biggest non-heavyweight attraction in the sport by a mile. To say that “he didn’t want none” is highly deceptive. He didn’t want Mayweather because he was chasing an even bigger fight. In addition, one of the reasons he was chasing De La Hoya (a welterweight) was that, unlike Floyd, he had already been at lightweight for a number of years and was having difficulty making the weight anymore. Shane is six years older than Floyd.
I know
lol…yes I’m dramatizing it. I know. Shane has never been scared to fight anyone. I think, or at least I hope, most boxing fans would know that.
Floyd always gets blamed for this fight never happening when in actuality he did try to make the fight happen. Mosley went for the high profile money fight. I don’t blame the guy for it. I would have done the same. Hell, Floyd did the same thing too.
I think it’s fair to criticize Floyd for not fighting Shane in 2008 or 2009. It would have been fine if the reason Floyd hadn’t fought Shane was to fight Cotto instead (since Cotto had beaten Shane in late 2007), but it wasn’t ok for Floyd to choose not to fight either of those guys in favor of first planning rematches with De La Hoya and Hatton, and then “retiring”.
I agree, though, that it’s neither Shane’s fault nor Floyd’s fault that the fight didn’t happen prior to 2008.
if he doesn’t call for blood testing i’m going to hate mayweather for all of eternity. dude’s an ass
The Dude Abides
by battle axe of doom on Jan 18, 2010 11:38 PM EST up reply actions
I want Shane to agree on the Olympic style drug testing as well
Not because I believe he’s juicing it up but for himself, Floyd and the future of boxing.
If they both agreed to it, it would kind of set an example from two big name fighters that it’s best for the sport.
It would also do good for Shanes’ image as well considering his past history with the PED allegations.
And if Floyd and Manny both came out victorious, I could see it helping the matter to seal the deal there as well.
by Option27 on Jan 18, 2010 9:25 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Though i like this fight, it smacks hypocrisy vs GBP & Mayweather camp
Truth is – - most fight fans saw the smoke screen concocted by GBP and Mayweather Camp. Which is why, if you see the various boxing blogs/websites, it is fairly consistent that Pac gets 70% – 80% support. The request of Mayweather for “Olympic style blood testing” though looking chivalrous can’t be taken at “face value”, given the history of this guy, just look at his last fight with the over-matched Marquez. Money May already had “all the obvious advantages – height, reach, speed, youth” and he had unsportsmanlike move to come in a few pounds overweight. Wow! Then, this hypocrisy is pushed even more with GBP now going after Mosley (to fight Money May, the same Mosley they protected from Blood testing vs Zab Judah). Are we going to see the same random tests demands to derail this fight?
No wonder Pacman did not want to yield any ground against these “wolves in sheep clothing”. A saying goes – - Anyone can give up the easiest thing in the world to do/or the supposedly easy tests of random blood testing ..but to hold yourself tough, when people call you a cheat even without an ounce of evidence, when everyone would expect you to fall apart, yet NOT YIELD, yet NOT COMPROMISE against wizards of dis-information, that is TRUE STRENGTH! Amen to that.
I can't agree
First, I saw most blogs/sites split between in agreement with Floyd or Manny.
Secondly, GBP has already mentioned they wouldn’t have any of their fighters fight Manny unless they agreed to the olympic styled drug testing so it seems as if they’re already in favor or it.
Like I said, it should be the way PED’s are tested anyways in most sports, so why not set the bar and make a stand now?
I mean there’s always a first for these kinda things.
If you’re gonna say no one’s had to agree to those tests before, you’ll be able to use that argument untill someone does .. Then you can build from there
by Option27 on Jan 18, 2010 9:48 PM EST via mobile reply actions
How can Floyd ask Pac (who has never tested positive or admitted to juicing.) to take extensive doping tests but, not ask Mosley(who has admitted to taking undetectable designer steroids AKA “The Cream and Clear”).
"True strength is not always shown through victory. Stand up, try again and display strength of heart."
Rickson Gracie
I’m sure once they start writing the contract for the fight, Floyd will want random blood testing. Shane will most likely agree, since he really wants to fight Mayweather (as opposed to Pacquiao, who would rather do PEDs and fight washed up fighters).
lol pacquiao haters are ALMOST as funny as PBF haters
The Dude Abides
by battle axe of doom on Jan 18, 2010 11:39 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
+1 Battle Axe
"Honey i forgot to duck" - Jack Dempsey
by Drunken cutman on Jan 19, 2010 6:49 AM EST up reply actions
+2
yeah, they’re close but not there yet…lol
I hated every minute of training, but I said, ‘’Don’t quit. Suffer now and live the rest of your life as a champion.'’ (Bernard Hopkins)
He can't
Which is why, if this fight gets made, they’ll both make a point to include that clause in this fight’s deal, and they’ll both make a point to tell the media about how they’re pioneering an era of stronger testing to improve the sport. All of which is true I guess, just very backhanded.
Bad Left Hook - The SB Nation boxing blog
"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
How do you know he hasn't?
"I guess I can’t do anything if you’re just irrational, but to point it out and move on."
- fundamentallysound
How do you know that blue isn't red?
Innocent until proven guilty is very important and there is absolutely zero hard evidence that Pacquiao has ever used a PED.
"Honey i forgot to duck" - Jack Dempsey
by Drunken cutman on Jan 19, 2010 10:04 AM EST up reply actions
I think he meant, how do we know that Mayweather hadn’t asked Mosley.
The question is a bit nonsensical though, since Golden Boy is running the show here for both fighters. So no asking has to be done. They’ll just do what’s in the company’s best interests.
Yes that's what I meant
But Green is Blue
"I guess I can’t do anything if you’re just irrational, but to point it out and move on."
- fundamentallysound
lol maybe i should i have scrolled down before making my previous comment
The Dude Abides
by battle axe of doom on Jan 18, 2010 11:38 PM EST up reply actions
Marquez question
Say Juan Manuel fights on the undercard, is there a difference in the money he would make there and the money he would make headlining WCB on HBO?
Typically a fighter would make much more for headlining WCB
than for being on the undercard of a big PPV. That said, all the terms of a PPV are negotiable.
Bad Left Hook - The SB Nation boxing blog
"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
hope i don’t sound like a complete an utter idiot, but your avatar is supposed to look like bart and lisa right?
The Dude Abides
by battle axe of doom on Jan 19, 2010 12:40 AM EST up reply actions
It's the 2012 London Olympics logo
colored slightly differently. After it was released, some people started saying it looked like Lisa Simpson giving head. So there it is.
Bad Left Hook - The SB Nation boxing blog
"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
Are you a big olympics fan?
"Honey i forgot to duck" - Jack Dempsey
by Drunken cutman on Jan 19, 2010 6:50 AM EST up reply actions
i think he’s more of a fan of olympic logos that look like lisa giving head
The Dude Abides
by battle axe of doom on Jan 19, 2010 10:16 AM EST up reply actions
It does look a bit like that...
People in Britian have been ridiculing how rubbish it looks for ages now.
"Honey i forgot to duck" - Jack Dempsey
by Drunken cutman on Jan 19, 2010 10:55 AM EST up reply actions
Hmm, not a good start, eh? It’s also going to be tough for you guys to follow Beijing’s act with the opening ceremonies. Who’s the Zhang Yimou of the UK? Guy Ritchie?
Not a good start at all
The stadium is way over budget and there are big problems with funding and logistics. Many people were saying the expense couldn’t be justified before the recession, let alone now. I’m still glad it’s happening though because it means I can go to watch the Olympic fencing and hopefully see Bolt run the 100m. The latter possibly being one of those things I’ll tell my grandchildren about one day!
"Honey i forgot to duck" - Jack Dempsey
by Drunken cutman on Jan 19, 2010 11:36 AM EST up reply actions
By 2012, there might be another kid out there who outdoes Bolt! Kings don’t reign long in the world of sprinting.
Hence the hopefully
It would be amazing to see him run live.
"Honey i forgot to duck" - Jack Dempsey
by Drunken cutman on Jan 19, 2010 12:16 PM EST up reply actions
Right. What I meant was, you might get to see someone even better than Bolt, hard as that is to fathom now.
It really is
very difficult to imagine that. He pretty much redefined the boundaries of how 100m sprinting especially.
I hated every minute of training, but I said, ‘’Don’t quit. Suffer now and live the rest of your life as a champion.'’ (Bernard Hopkins)
grrrr (note to self, Preview then post)
cross out the ‘how’…lol
I hated every minute of training, but I said, ‘’Don’t quit. Suffer now and live the rest of your life as a champion.'’ (Bernard Hopkins)
it really is very poor
I never realised it looked quite like Lisa giving head somehow…imaginative coloring…lol
I hated every minute of training, but I said, ‘’Don’t quit. Suffer now and live the rest of your life as a champion.'’ (Bernard Hopkins)
Hopkins/Jones II
The Hopkins/Jones rematch would do absolutely disastrously poor numbers even if it wasn’t sandwiched between Pacquiao/Clottey and potentially Mayweather/Mosley. Now, I’m wondering if it will touch 200k. Khan/Maidana will get me to buy it if it is truly on that undercard, but for the greater public… No. They won’t spend $180 in three months on three fights. They’ll be willing to spend March 13th and May 1st I think since there is six weeks pay in between, but there is no way people touch the rematch. HBO seriously needs to consider passing on the fight in terms of PPV.
I'm far more interested in Khan-Maidana
Than Hopkins-Jones.
"Honey i forgot to duck" - Jack Dempsey
by Drunken cutman on Jan 19, 2010 6:51 AM EST up reply actions
Khan-Maidana
Looks like the MM-AK teams got it together to avoid a purse bid, fight should happen late March to mid April. This is gonna’ be hard for me to pick,..right now I’m leaning to Maidana, gotta’ study up on this one some more. Peace!!
If it happens it’s gonna be on the Hopkins-Jones show. Glad, too, since I’m biting the bullet and ordering that show to provide live coverage here, and letting Brick or someone do the Super Six that night.
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
by Scott Christ on Jan 19, 2010 10:16 AM EST up reply actions
Kind of sad
It’s sad that people are ordering a PPV fight, more for the undercard then the actual main event. lol….I’m in the same boat. I didn’t care to see the fight until they announced the possibility of Khan-Maidana on the undercard.
I'm still hoping they move it to April 3
I’ve read there’s a lot of wrangling going on about the dates. Nothing is set in stone yet, but I hear GBP feels that April 17 and May 1 are too close together for PPVs. I’ve heard they may move to April 3, but then they’re competing with the Final Four instead of the Super Six.
Bad Left Hook - The SB Nation boxing blog
"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
Mosley will agree to testing demands
According to boxing scene , a source is saying that Mosley will agree to the testing demands. I know nothing is official yet, but it’s looking like he’ll do it to make the fight happen.
Yeah, this actually came up just in interviews or whatever when Manny and Floyd were going back-and-forth on the issue. Mosley was like, “I’ll take ’em. Anybody wanna fight? Anybody want a peanut?” They’re going to do the testing for Floyd-Shane. It’s really not even a question.
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
by Scott Christ on Jan 19, 2010 10:35 AM EST up reply actions
Mosley was quoted in the Grand Rapids newspaper
as saying he’d agree to the random drug testing. Which is just dandy, I suppose. But it’s not going to change anything, at least on a large scale. Unless it’s in the contract, there’s just no good way to enforce it. State commissions can’t leave the state to go where people train to get blood tests. Plus, it’s way more expensive than urine tests, which is a big deal for smaller cards.
Bad Left Hook - The SB Nation boxing blog
"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
If only there were separate governing bodies in boxing. Some agency that a boxer would pay to sanction matches could mandate this and cover the additional costs. Hmmmm
by Waldo Rastel on Jan 19, 2010 2:17 PM EST up reply actions
Thats all well and good for important fights
but for small fights where the fighers make 200 dollars, they would spend more on drug testing than revenue would be brought in. It doesn’t make fiscal sense to do that.
What's the price difference?
Does anybody know?
Between the regular testing and the blood testing? From the stuff put out by the USADA recently, if it is done intelligently it doesn’t sound like much at all, which makes me think that the sanctioning bodies could be pro-active, for once on an issue that is not money, and cover this cost for all fights. Of course asking the boards to be useful may be a bit of a stretch.
by Waldo Rastel on Jan 19, 2010 11:31 PM EST up reply actions
Mayweather wont take the fight...........
Whassup everybody? Im new to the site. I bet Floyd wont take this fight. He wont risk losing his perfect record. I hate how much boxing has become a business more than a sport…….its ridiculous. I hope that he steps up and fights Mosely. That would make my day…….
frankDUBZ aka Frank Silba
I feel like he's backed into a corner this time
And he knows that if he beats Mosley and wins, he makes a lot more money in the long run than he would if he fought someone like Cintron.
Bad Left Hook - The SB Nation boxing blog
"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
And welcome to the site
Bad Left Hook - The SB Nation boxing blog
"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
Welcome to the site
I hope you like it here.
I hate how much boxing has become a business more than a sport
Here’s a quote from all the way back in 1910 which you may find interesting.
There is too much commercialism about it and the question of who is really the better man is not at stake. They are fighting for the purse and moving picture receipts.
It wouldn’t have been that way twenty years ago. The people would have thrown brickbats at the fighters if they had attempted such a game. In those days scrappers had to fight first and do their show work afterwards. The boxing game is not being conducted the way it should be and it is only the question of time until the public will refuse to stand for the present methods."
"Honey i forgot to duck" - Jack Dempsey
by Drunken cutman on Jan 20, 2010 6:12 AM EST up reply actions
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All under second block is quote too.
"Honey i forgot to duck" - Jack Dempsey
by Drunken cutman on Jan 20, 2010 6:12 AM EST up reply actions
I am truly enlightened........
But……..why not fight the best to prove you are the best. I believe those who really have heart take fights on a verbal challenge. Nobody wants to go in the ring and not get paid the big money. I wish fighters were made to fight who they are supposed to fight based on a ranking system. We would’nt have these super-fights that fall through the floor because of small details. All in all, that isn’t the way it is, so I could go on forever. I hope Money takes this fight and gives the people what they need. Cintron is a joke……..
frankDUBZ aka Frank Silba
That's all fair commentary
But if boxing wasn’t a business it wouldn’t be a little bit as big as it is today. Would you really be willing to step into a ring and get pounded, even risk your life, if you were getting paid peanuts? Without business in sport then there’s no TV, no magazines, no exposure and, as a result, a much smaller number of fans.
In many ways boxing is over commercialised but saying that high level, well followed sports should be seperate from business is, in reality, impractical idealism.
I really hope you like the site, in my opinion it’s the best for commentary and discussion.
"Honey i forgot to duck" - Jack Dempsey
by Drunken cutman on Jan 20, 2010 12:16 PM EST up reply actions
I totally agree with the financial portion..........
It’s the honor that is missing from it. It’s the " oh, im not fighting him because he has a real chance of beating me". Whatever happened to pride? If you get your ass whooped you will still get paid………..
frankDUBZ aka Frank Silba
True
but some fighters not all fighters are just about the money. I think that legacy is equally important to a lot of fighters, or at least only a little less singnificant. Mayweather obviously isn’t like this but people like Pacquiao, Mosley and Taylor jump to mind. Their dedication to taking very tough fights shows that they are dedicate dto mroe than an easy cash in.
Clearly boxers do like the money and it must play some part in the decision making of each one of them. Sadly a few have let it become too important and have let their esteem and legacy fall by the wayside.
"Honey i forgot to duck" - Jack Dempsey
by Drunken cutman on Jan 21, 2010 5:21 AM EST up reply actions

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