Mosley-Mayweather discussions "very good" so far
by Scott Christ on Jan 21, 2010 8:44 PM EST
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Leonard Ellerbe told BoxingScene.com that negotiations between Floyd Mayweather Jr. and Shane Mosley have started well, and that the two dates being discussed right now are May 1 and May 8.
"We are still negotiating the Mosley fight. We are having some every good discussions which is definitely a breath of fresh air. We're looking at a couple of dates in early May. Obviously we want to allow ourselves enough time to properly promote this mega, mega fight. This is a fight that fans have been talking about for ten years. Floyd has wanted this fight for over ten years," Ellerbe told BoxingScene.com.
Knock on wood and all that, but unless one side is seriously delusional or just plain immovably stubborn, there's no excuse for this fight to not get made. The money is there (and Floyd understands this isn't a $25 million guarantee fight like Pacquiao), the interest is there, the fight is very meaningful, and as good as Mosley is, Mayweather should even be considered a strong favorite.
They're both working with Golden Boy Promotions. Richard Schaefer has represented both men in fight negotiations.
There should be absolutely nothing that stops this fight from happening.
I'll repeat: There should be absolutely nothing that stops this fight from happening.
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There should have been absolutely nothing to prevent the last fight from happening
And then someone invented an issue that stopped the fight from happening. I suspect Mosley would generally be more accommodating to wacky requests though.
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Question
Is there any confirmation to Clottey only receiving $1million for the fight against Pacquiao. That like a 90-10 or 95-5 split. That’s crazy!!
If you always thought what you thought, then you wouldn't think what you knew.
by Haans Bishop on Jan 22, 2010 1:40 PM EST up reply actions
Surely not
I had heard he was getting a basic 2 million but things may have changed.
"Honey i forgot to duck" - Jack Dempsey
by Drunken cutman on Jan 22, 2010 1:44 PM EST up reply actions
Hypocrisy galore
Hypocrites trying to sound clean and righteous. You can’t fool us with your smoke screen. Floyd – if you did not have such a colorful history of dishonesty and slight of hand, I would take your request at “face value”. However, your recent fight with Marquez as an example, you basically cheated a guy a few pounds (even after you requested him to move two weight classes above to fight you). Wow! notwithstanding, that you already have the advantage in height, reach, speed, age . .
Camp Mayweather – continues with its run-ins with the law that they need their own reality series. And these guys, want us to believe that they have connected with their inner voices???
Tygart – also talks i.e. we are looking for the truth and fight for the clean athletes, but using a recent case against cyclist Landis as an example. Tygart refused to provide documentation requested by Landis’ defense team. To paraphrase his response, he said, "The rules don’t require me to give you any more than this, so I’m not going to." The lab documentation package that we’ve all come to know and love, in Tygart’s mind, was all that Team Landis needed to defend Floyd Landis against the charges. Yes, Tygart giving that “following the rules” thing B/S . . but, throws mud against Nevada boxing organization. Another hypocrite. Further, As part of his request, Tygart told the arbitration panel that any positive results would be used against Landis. So Tygart was on a fishing expedition, searching for more evidence to use against Landis, even though Landis could not go on the same expedition to try and find evidence to exonerate himself. That’s not searching for truth, that’s trying to bolster a weak case. We rest our case against these people who claim to be “so called the paragon of virtues”. Yup, virtues my ass.
Yeah, like $10M for every lbs over. That's wacky!
Every fighter has a game plan until he get's punched in the mouth.
-Mike
Totally
"I guess I can’t do anything if you’re just irrational, but to point it out and move on."
- fundamentallysound
by J Theory on Jan 21, 2010 10:58 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
IT'S UNPRECEDENTED!!!
IT"S UNPRECEDENTED TO ASK FOR A 10 MILLION DOLLAR OVER WEIGHT PENALTY!!! UNPRECEDENTED I TELL YOU!!!!
Err
sarcasm caps?
"Honey i forgot to duck" - Jack Dempsey
by Drunken cutman on Jan 22, 2010 1:43 PM EST up reply actions
Admittedly, I thought that request was way out there as well
Bad Left Hook - The SB Nation boxing blog
"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
Watching the Margo fight
I really like Floyd in this fight. Margo is throwing “pitty-pat” punches that don’t have much on them, but they are landing. Jabs from angles (tho few) seem to land with effectiveness. Floyd is going to be all over landing a punch and getting out of there. Shane doesn’t seem to land the first punch, but rather the third or fourth (setting up the right). Still want to see the fight but I think Floyd wins it rather easily.
floyd isn’t anywhere near marg’s level of aggressiveness though.
quick q: has anyone of mosley’s caliber of power (underrated power btw) ever landed a clean shot to floyd’s head?
The Dude Abides
by battle axe of doom on Jan 22, 2010 6:24 PM EST up reply actions
Castillo
He had very good power in my opinion. However it’s been a long time since Mayweather faced that kind of adversity and Mosely’s deffinitely a better boxer than Castillo was. I like Mosley in this one by a close, but clear, points win.
"Honey i forgot to duck" - Jack Dempsey
by Drunken cutman on Jan 22, 2010 7:33 PM EST up reply actions
I don’t remember Castillo landing clean to the head a whole lot. He landed to the body quite a bit though.
Yeah he was a superb body puncher
The more I think about this the more I like Mosley.
"Honey i forgot to duck" - Jack Dempsey
by Drunken cutman on Jan 23, 2010 9:14 AM EST up reply actions
I tend to disagree
Sugar Mosley has a great chin and Mayweather doesn’t really pack a punch. Also, Mosley is quick to adapt during a fight and is a natural at this weight. It’ll be some time before Mosley starts to put the punches on Mayweather but I reckon he’ll do what everybody else seem to be forgetting when they fight Mayweather: to target the body.
I’m picking Mosley over Mayweather by close decision.
thats a bold prediction this early on, fair play
by Sweet science on Jan 22, 2010 11:19 AM EST up reply actions
not really bold. it would be bold if mayweather was fighting matthew hatton, but not mosley
screw it: Mosley TKO 11. heard it here first folks
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by battle axe of doom on Jan 22, 2010 6:25 PM EST up reply actions
that wldnt be bold about Hatton
that would be downright stupid :)
by Sweet science on Jan 26, 2010 7:25 AM EST up reply actions
Im with you on this one. I think Mosley has what it takes to beat Floyd. When Oscar was using his jab in the Floyd fight Mayweather seemed bit off by it. Shane is good at mixing up his style to so can make Floyd think.
I got a Mosley decision
"It's just a job. Grass grows, birds fly, waves pound the sand. I beat people up." - Ali
maybe may 1/8 won’t be the night of the jab
The Dude Abides
by battle axe of doom on Jan 22, 2010 6:38 PM EST up reply actions
"There should be absolutely nothing that stops this fight from happening."
I’ll tell you guys what I told you before the Pac-Mayweather thing: Never underestimate the stupidity and egos rampant in this sport.
Although detractors decry (MMA) as a brutal, bloody form of human cockfighting, aficionados know it is a brutal, bloody, totally fucking awesome form of human cockfighting. -The Onion
by The Kittitas Kid on Jan 22, 2010 12:13 PM EST reply actions
Nothing!
"If you sit there and watch a person take about an hour to tie his shoestrings, then you realize that whatever problems you got ain't that significant"
---Vernon Forrest 2006
by The Midnight Rambler on Jan 22, 2010 12:38 PM EST up reply actions
I agree
But.. The real/ only issue that could stop this is Mosley talking about he wants a 60-40 split, which would be ridiculous being he hasn’t fought in over a year.
If you always thought what you thought, then you wouldn't think what you knew.
by Haans Bishop on Jan 22, 2010 1:18 PM EST up reply actions
I DO think this one has a better chance of getting done than Money/Pac did
I’m just saying, when I hear people say things like “there’s too much money for them to walk away from this fight,” my first thought is, “Never say never, especially when it’s this sport.”
Although detractors decry (MMA) as a brutal, bloody form of human cockfighting, aficionados know it is a brutal, bloody, totally fucking awesome form of human cockfighting. -The Onion
by The Kittitas Kid on Jan 22, 2010 3:21 PM EST up reply actions
The Mayweather-Pacquiao debacle
has convinced me to avoid saying that in the future.
"Honey i forgot to duck" - Jack Dempsey
by Drunken cutman on Jan 22, 2010 4:11 PM EST up reply actions
This fight has to happen.
Mosley probably doesn’t have a lot of big money fights left in him, and Mayweather has been getting killed because of the breakdown of the megafight (some of it being unfairly put on him). There’s too many factors that went right for this fight for it to break down over something petty. The megafight had two fighters who had everything going for them; this fight doesn’t.
Mosley is a great champion but his time is up
Mosley will be out boxed and then confused. He too will make the same statement that DLH made after his fight with Mayweather, “His hands are faster that I thought”!
If you always thought what you thought, then you wouldn't think what you knew.
thats similar to when Hatton fought him
I remember him saying that he was far greater than excpected on the inside
by Sweet science on Jan 26, 2010 7:27 AM EST up reply actions
Great Fight
Im happy to see this fight, I believe Mosley shoud Beat Mayweather. It will be a Tough Fight.
I have reached the point where as soon as I see Maywether’s name. I move on to the next thread.
"If you sit there and watch a person take about an hour to tie his shoestrings, then you realize that whatever problems you got ain't that significant"
---Vernon Forrest 2006
by The Midnight Rambler on Jan 22, 2010 4:46 PM EST reply actions
I can relate to that!
"Honey i forgot to duck" - Jack Dempsey
by Drunken cutman on Jan 22, 2010 7:34 PM EST up reply actions
10 years Ellerbe says...LIES ALL LIES
Ellerbe Saying FMjr has wanted this fight for 10 years is such a load of crap. In an interview with Brian Kenny last year FMjr clearly said “what would I have to gain from fighting a fighter who has lost 5 times and been caught with steroid use”. He has avoided him for 10 years just like he has avoided Margarito(before the glove incident), Williams, Pacquiao. FMjr is scarred to mess up his carefully planned (fight lighter slow guys)perfect record. You lose that and all of the sudden your not selling as many ppv’s and then people question his opponents over his career. I think FMjr is one talented dude but at some point you got to let em hang buddy. Challenge yourself and give the fans a fun fight to watch for a change. He will find a way out of this fight but lets hope he doesn’t because even at 38 Mosley can still bring it.
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