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Top Rank looking at Yuri Foreman-Miguel Cotto fight

Top Rank's Facebook has another interesting tidbit tonight, this time about a possible 2010 fight between junior middleweight titleholder Yuri Foreman and former welterweight titlist Miguel Cotto:

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This has come up before in the last month or so in discussion of Cotto's intentions for 2010. Cotto says 2010 will be his last year as an active fighter, which may or may not actually happen (and probably not), and as he's basically fought everyone he's going to fight at 147 (Mosley, Pacquiao, Clottey), a move to 154 and a crack at Foreman's title is something he's said he'll definitely consider. It'd be a good MSG fight with Cotto's Puerto Rican following there, and with Foreman bringing in plenty of Jewish fans, too. They could really do a good house, especially if paired up in June with the possible Lopez-Gamboa fight.

I do think it's a really rough matchup for Miguel. Cotto isn't a big welterweight by any means, and Foreman is a sizable junior middleweight with plenty of skill, and he's a lot fresher than Cotto is. Pacquiao and his team allegedly turned down Foreman because of the height and size differential, but Miguel is only about an inch taller than Pacquiao. Foreman would still have a good advantage against Cotto, and I think I'd pick Yuri to get a decision if I were making a very, very early pick right now (which I am, sort of).

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Who will Epstein root for? That guy’s gonna be torn.

by taco pal on Jan 8, 2010 8:22 PM EST reply actions   2 recs

Bad Left Hook
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by Scott Christ on Jan 8, 2010 8:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Brother put jewfros on the map early!

Boxing writer: "Iran, what are you going to do when you retire?"
Iran Barkley: "Rob your house"

by Matt Miller on Jan 8, 2010 9:03 PM EST up reply actions  

I mean Gabe Kaplan was the star of the show

If anybody put Jewfros on a map from that show it was him.

But its a moot point because Albert Brooks made jewfros what they are today, and I’m proud to say I’m a part time wearer of one.

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by jobe on Jan 9, 2010 4:31 AM EST up reply actions  

I mean Gabe Kaplan was the star of the show

Ehhhh, maybe that was the original plan, but the stars of the show were the Sweathogs.

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by Scott Christ on Jan 9, 2010 4:49 AM EST up reply actions  

rec’d for welcome back cotter

We're just a million little gods causin' rain storms, turning every good thing to rust.

by Anthony Pace on Jan 8, 2010 8:35 PM EST up reply actions  

More seriously, I hope that if Cotto takes this fight, it’s just a one-shot deal for him at 154. He’s much better suited for 147 and there are better fights for him there too. I would love to see rematches vs. Mosley and Clottey.

by taco pal on Jan 8, 2010 8:23 PM EST reply actions  

NO

 I don’t like this for Cotto, not at all, IF hes gonna fight again it should be against someone very much his own size with very little pop. Miguel has earned a gimme fight, lets see how he looks after two real tough fights, is it still there, does he still want it? Easy MC easy. Peace!!

by Iron Beach on Jan 8, 2010 8:27 PM EST reply actions  

at the same time...

What do I learn from watching Cotto against a feather-fisted patsy? Yuri isn’t much of a puncher himself, but we saw Miguel against Michael Jennings last February. Did that really prepare him for anything? I knew five years ago he could beat guys like Michael Jennings.

You know what I’d actually like to see? Cotto-Malignaggi II if Paulie thinks he can handle 147, which would just be a speed and stamina issue (and I don’t know how it might affect that for him). Another good NYC fight between a couple of guys who got “the rub” from one another in their fight. Both came out bigger stars.

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by Scott Christ on Jan 8, 2010 8:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Yuri TKO 1

This one feels like a career ender for Cotto. The Hammering Hassid will show the world why PacMan ducked him.

by tichbou on Jan 8, 2010 8:31 PM EST reply actions  

Undoubtedly

The mauling mensch massacres Miguel in midtown.

Boxing writer: "Iran, what are you going to do when you retire?"
Iran Barkley: "Rob your house"

by Matt Miller on Jan 8, 2010 9:02 PM EST up reply actions  

meshuganah

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by Brickhaus on Jan 8, 2010 9:13 PM EST up reply actions  

sweet mother of alliteration

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by battle axe of doom on Jan 9, 2010 1:17 AM EST up reply actions  

God, I love Cotto but he might be biting off more than he can chew here. If he wins, that would be epic, but I’d prefer fights with Mosley and Malignanni. As the last great Puerto Rican fighter, he’s all we’ve got unless/until Carlos Velasquez develops into an utter monster.

We're just a million little gods causin' rain storms, turning every good thing to rust.

by Anthony Pace on Jan 8, 2010 8:45 PM EST reply actions  

no love for Juanma?

I think Lopez is a better P4P fighter than Cotto right now.

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by Scott Christ on Jan 8, 2010 8:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Really? I want to see Juanma/Caballero before I consider Lopez a top-10 p4p fighter. (maybe you don’t consider Cotto in the top-10 anymore?) But I guess I should’ve qualified what I meant by last great Puerto Rican fighter, in that he is a huge topic amongst the casual (i.e. Americanized) Puerto Rican boxing fan. It’s just I don’t hear much about Juanma, even though Tito basically gave him the Pope’s blessing. All the buzz, at least from my circles, is focused on Velasquez. I didn’t mean to knock Juanma at all, he is a stellar fighter

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by Anthony Pace on Jan 8, 2010 9:04 PM EST up reply actions  

I have Cotto just outside of the top ten. I’m also pretty crazy about Lopez. I think he’d chew up Caballero, who I don’t think is particularly good, just really tall.

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by Scott Christ on Jan 8, 2010 9:07 PM EST up reply actions  

People probably said the same thing about Panama Al Brown

Anyway, Caballero went from being criminally underrated from being overrated in a hurry. I think he gives Juanma a tough fight, and he always would have beaten Izzy and Marquez, IMO, but he definitely has his weaknesses that can be exploited and he has a tendency to fight down to the level of his competition. Other than big fights (De Leon, Molitor, Sithchatchawal), it seems like he’s always in close fights, although he’s won his big fights by blowout.

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by Brickhaus on Jan 8, 2010 9:17 PM EST up reply actions  

I think Juanma would beat Caballero, but it could be a great, great fight. In their fights against Ponce de Leon, Lopez annihilated him in awesome fashion as compared to Cabellero, albeit Caballero was a nobody at the time

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by Anthony Pace on Jan 8, 2010 9:30 PM EST up reply actions  

how would you feel about Lopez/Gamboa?

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by Anthony Pace on Jan 8, 2010 9:23 PM EST up reply actions  

I like Lopez big in that one

Always have, and that has stayed even after Lopez got a rough fight from Mtagwa, and even though I think Gamboa is going to put the hurt on Mtagwa. Styles and all.

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by Scott Christ on Jan 8, 2010 9:38 PM EST up reply actions  

that fight will never happen. WAR MTAGWAAAAAAAAAAA

The Dude Abides

by battle axe of doom on Jan 9, 2010 1:19 AM EST up reply actions  

We need Bad Left Hook Bucks or something so I can clean out your virtual bank account

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by Scott Christ on Jan 9, 2010 1:42 AM EST up reply actions  

Lopez is an infinitely better fighter than cotto hands down

The Dude Abides

by battle axe of doom on Jan 9, 2010 1:18 AM EST up reply actions  

not so difinitive. cotto is a great boxer

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by Anthony Pace on Jan 9, 2010 4:37 AM EST reply actions  

You just hope cotto doesn’t lose and blow a rematch with margarito. He’s gotta want that fight more than any other.

by goldmouth on Jan 9, 2010 1:48 PM EST reply actions  

He has publicly decalred no interest in that fight

regardless of the situation or money offered. Things change but I still think that rematch never happens.

"Honey i forgot to duck" - Jack Dempsey

by Drunken cutman on Jan 9, 2010 1:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Cotto will never fight Margarito again. Count on it.

Boxing writer: "Iran, what are you going to do when you retire?"
Iran Barkley: "Rob your house"

by Matt Miller on Jan 9, 2010 2:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Cotto doesn’t want the Margarito fight at all. He has no interest in Margarito ever making money to fight him again.

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by Scott Christ on Jan 9, 2010 4:18 PM EST up reply actions  

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