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Just got word from Bristol: ESPN3.com will have live coverage of Friday's David Lemieux-Hector Camacho Jr. fight from Montreal. 10 pm ET.

Dan Rafael's Twitter. Presumably this means the fight will no longer be available to U.S. viewers for free on Seconds Out TV.

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by Kid Blast on Oct 27, 2010 12:16 PM EDT reply actions  

Saw this on the ESPN3 website a little while back.

I’ve enjoyed watching events through the site, I figure this will be the same.

by Brent Ducharme on Oct 27, 2010 5:07 PM EDT reply actions  

ESPN 3 is killing

This is the kind of outside-the-box thinking the whole sport needs to engage in.

There are great cards all over the world every weekend. Let’s find innovative ways to get the product to the consumers.

Although detractors decry (MMA) as a brutal, bloody form of human cockfighting, aficionados know it is a brutal, bloody, totally fucking awesome form of human cockfighting. -The Onion

by The Kittitas Kid on Oct 27, 2010 7:06 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

I feel exactly the same

But the naysayers are all appalled by the idea. The internet is the wave of boxing’s future, I feel. Newspapers don’t cover the sport, TV stations aren’t interested in the sport, and it’s marginalized to such a degree that they have to do something different. The expansion of ESPN3’s boxing coverage is nothing but a good thing.

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by Scott Christ on Oct 28, 2010 5:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

Newspapers here are starting to cover it more and more, but it's a slow process.

Now the Sun covers the sport with at least 3 feature articles a week, plus news snippets, which is a welcomeincrease on a few years ago when there was simply nothing for weeks at a time.

Colin Hart this week wrote a piece on why MikeTyson should not get into the Boxing Hall of Fame. It was interesting, but I completelydisagree with his reasoning. Actually, now I come to think of it, he didn’t say Tyson shouldn’t be inducted, but he did say Tyson would not get his vote. He did acknowledge Tyson’s achievements, and also mentioned that he had no doubt Tyson would be inducted regardless of his individual vote. He generally writes pretty good stuff, Hart, but some of it is a little too rose-tinted for my liking. He seems a little reluctant to call a spade a spade. He’s certainly no Hugh McIlvanney. :)

As for the other stuff, Frank Warren writes in the Sun every Saturday, but mainly it’ll be something along the lines of “The Boxing World (as it relates to Frank Warren and how he can make the most money out of it)”. He basically uses the column space in the same way Elsworth Toohey does in Ayn Rand’s ‘The Fountainhead’, it’s a public form of manipulation, or just a soapbox from whence he can decry all those sinners against Frank Warren And The Forces Of Good, and move other pawns around the board. I’ll be honest, I have respect for Frank Warren, but I don’t think he knows much about the sport inside the ring, or at least his analysis and opinions of the actual fights is sporadic, puerile and generally nepotistic.

Still, any coverage is better than no coverage, and I do find reading these guys’ opinions interesting, if sometimes frustrating and infuriating.

Most fight fans would not spend a dime to watch Van Gogh paint 'Sunflowers', but they would fill Yankee Stadium to see him cut off his ear. (Bill Nack)

by Chaos100 on Oct 28, 2010 8:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think the only major U.S. papers I can think of with good, consistent coverage are the L.A. Times and … one of the NY papers? But there are so many good boxing sites, and it seems like blogs are starting to come into play. There are several boxing blogs I really enjoy reading: THIS ONE, The Queensbury Rules, The Cruelest Sport, a few others that I’m too tired to think of off hand. And what I like is that the blogs all have their own style and tone so far. Tim at TQBR and Carlos at TCS are both very different than we are, for example, and I love reading their takes on things we’ve talked about here. They don’t have to filter the way major writers do, but I do enjoy Kevin Iole at Yahoo (an exceptionally nice person, too), Lance Pugmire at the LA Times, Cliff Rold, Jake Donovan, Lyle Fitzsimmons, Steve Kim, Gabriel Montoya, Ramon Aranda, and many others. And I know Dan Rafael isn’t the favorite of many hardcore boxing fans, but he does an excellent job as a reporter. I can’t say I much care for the opinion portions of his work, but oh well. Actually, there aren’t many boxing writers I don’t like on one level or another. To keep covering the sport with it being so far from the mainstream most times takes some dedication and love of boxing.

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by Scott Christ on Oct 29, 2010 7:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

There have been some real steps forward in boxing coverage recently over here.

I think the main issue I have with it is that the Sun keeps referring to David Haye as ‘the world champion’, and Amir Khan the same. I mean, if a mainstreampaper keeps reporting it that way, then it makes it really hard for real fans to have a conversation with casual fans, because the casual fans only know what they are fed, and their attitude is, “But I know he’s World Champion, because the Sun said it this morning….”

That kind of thing only exacerbates the divide between proper fans and the casual ones, since the casuals think we’re know-it-alls and the diehards can’t make a point without being wrong in most people’s opinions. Is rightness or wrongness subject to statistics? It certainly seems so sometimes in this context.

I suppose what I’m saying is that I’m glad there is more coverage of the sport, but biased (and therefore inaccurate) reporting isn’t really what we need. If they are going to make the effort to report on boxing, I wish they’d make up their minds to do it right.

Most fight fans would not spend a dime to watch Van Gogh paint 'Sunflowers', but they would fill Yankee Stadium to see him cut off his ear. (Bill Nack)

by Chaos100 on Oct 29, 2010 8:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

The Las Vegas Review Journal has decent boxing coverage

USA Today is also passable. The LA Times has the best, far and away though, of the U.S. papers. A few other ones have great coverage of their local fighters (Youngstown Vindicator and the St. Louis Post-Dispatch, for instance), but don’t veer too far outside of that box.

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by Brickhaus on Oct 29, 2010 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

Oh, right. I don’t read the LVRJ stuff anymore.

Also, by the way, never link to anything on their site. F that bunk.

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by Scott Christ on Oct 29, 2010 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

feel exactly the same about Rafael

he does seem to be the most reliable reporter despite my problems with his opinions.

I enjoy Thomas Hauser’s writing quite a bit.

by geraldmcgrew on Oct 30, 2010 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

YES!!!!!
The internet is the wave of boxing’s future

It’s the wave of everyone’s future, and boxing has probably done more to take advantage of that, even so far, than likely any other sport IMHO.

If love would die along with death, this life wouldn't be so hard--Andrew Vachss

by BoxAnne on Oct 28, 2010 8:07 AM EDT reply actions  

Nice

Hopefully a good number of people tune in, so that we see more of this in the future.

by drivlikejehu on Oct 28, 2010 6:01 PM EDT reply actions  

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