Dereck Chisora Gets Suspended Sentence for Assault on Ex-Girlfriend
by Scott Christ on Nov 10, 2010 1:39 PM EST
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As if you couldn't get enough of boxers in the news for the wrong reasons, today British heavyweight titlist and upcoming Wladimir Klitschko challenger Dereck Chisora was found guilty of assaulting an ex-girlfriend in May. He received a suspended 12-week prison sentence, meaning he'll be able to travel to Germany to fight Klitschko in a month's time.
The AP report at ESPN linked above says that Chisora has prior violent crimes on his record. He also bit Paul Butlin in a 2009 fight in London.
This won't quite be the end of it, either. The British Boxing Board of Control is very strict about fighter behavior in and out of the ring. Recently, Ricky Hatton had to go in front of the board when he had his cocaine scandal, and was allowed to keep his promoter's license but lost his boxing license and was fined $31,000. Chisora probably won't lose his license, but is likely to face some level of fine and given a firm scolding at the least.
Chisora (14-0, 9 KO) is the massive underdog against the dominant Klitschko (55-3, 49 KO), and a win for Chisora would be an early and serious contender for Upset of the Decade, and likely rank among the great heavyweight upsets in history.
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And we're back to supporting Wladimir...
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by Oli Goldstein on Nov 10, 2010 2:07 PM EST via mobile reply actions
I'm not sure.
I’ll have to look at what actually happened first. And before anyone goes crazy at me, I’ve never raised a hand to a woman in anger, and I’ve had scraps numbering double figures (none for a few years now) with guys who think it’s ok to give a woman a slap in public. However, I’m not prepared to simply write off my support for Chisora based on the word ‘assault’. One of my friends was charged with assault for pushing someone in a face-off while a copper was watching. If Chisora has pushed her, as much as I wouldn’t condone it, I also don’t necessarily hold other people to the standards I maintain in that regard, because:
1. Everyone is different, and
2. I don’t know how much provocation there was in the case. Again, I don’t condone placing hands on a woman in anger at all, but I also wouldn’t hang someone for pushing someone away while under extreme pressure and provocation.
That said, I may well change my view in a second, as I’m about to go looking to see what he actually did.
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I can't bring myself to root for Chisora
He’s always seemed like a pretty rotten human being to me.
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This from the linked article:
The court was told that Chisora, who has previous convictions for assault, launched the attack after finding text messages from another man on her phone. Chisora was ordered to carry out 150 hours of community service, pay $2,400 in compensation along with additional costs.
Provocation: check.
Actual description of what happened on May 28th: Not present.
I’ll keep digging.
Most fight fans would not spend a dime to watch Van Gogh paint 'Sunflowers', but they would fill Yankee Stadium to see him cut off his ear. (Bill Nack)
It may or may not have been reasonable provocation. Not every text message from a member of the opposite sex (not even one containing the word “babe”) is something at which one’s significant other should feel entitled to take offense. You would assume from the wording of the report that the substance of the text messages was provocative, but maybe it wasn’t. Some guys are really possessive and flip out over things that are innocuous.
According to most places I've looked, it was more than one text.
However, the only text message that I could use to condone violence to a woman would be along the lines of “So have you told Derek yet about your HIV diagnosis?”
In that kind of situation, I could understand lashing out, but hell, I’ve never lifted a hand to a woman and I actually found an ex of mine in bed with another guy. I don’t care if the text said “So I’ll come over and f*** you when he’s out tomorrow, like you’ve been begging me for”, as much as it would make me incandescent, I won’t condone actual violence toward a woman, at least not on those grounds.
That said, there is ‘violence’ and there is ‘violence’. I hate the thought of a slap, but that doesn’t make a slap the same as a punch, and a punch is not the same as a hammer, etc etc ad infinitum. So, as I have said in this thread, I won’t have as much respect for Chisora as I had before based on his propensity for violence toward women, but while I would have prayed night and day for a Vengeance Mission By Wlad-Proxy had he actually beat her up, I’ll still be hoping for a Chisora win when he gets in there. I wouldn’t necessarily shake his hand afterwards though.
Most fight fans would not spend a dime to watch Van Gogh paint 'Sunflowers', but they would fill Yankee Stadium to see him cut off his ear. (Bill Nack)
Oh, I definitely agree that there’s no justification for hitting her under any circumstances. And I agree that a slap is less bad than a punch, though neither is excusable.
I’m just saying we don’t know if he was justified even in getting upset, with or without physical violence. Some guys are so possessive that they’ll lose their cool over nothing.
Why Is He Reading HER Messages?
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Pah.
Another thing I wouldn’t do, but I’d guess a whole lot more people do it than admit to it.
Most fight fans would not spend a dime to watch Van Gogh paint 'Sunflowers', but they would fill Yankee Stadium to see him cut off his ear. (Bill Nack)
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and is a clear, and illegal invasion of privacy—it’s bad enough to secretly and jealously do it, which is wrong but somewhat understandable, but to violently—even as much as a light slap, which is not what the complaint describes, is—not cool at all. And it’s definitely evidence of a controlling mentality. I’m thinking I’ll watch and enjoy this fight after all, and I wasn’t going to.
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I think you have me wrong.
I’m not defending Chisora here, I’m just saying that had it been the case that he’d actually beat her up or even punched her, I’d not only want a prison sentence passed down, but I’d want them to let him fight Wlad first for free… as it was he apparently slapped her, which is deplorable, but not in the same league, so I’m willing to compartmentalize, and distinguish between Chisora the nasty bastard outside the ring, who should be regarded with contempt right now, and Chisora the nasty bastard inside the ring, who I still hope beats Wlad Klitschko, if only to break the status quo.
Most fight fans would not spend a dime to watch Van Gogh paint 'Sunflowers', but they would fill Yankee Stadium to see him cut off his ear. (Bill Nack)
It gets worse....
From: http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/article-23896423-judge-frees-boxer-to-fight-for-title.do
British and Commonwealth boxing champion Derek Chisora was spared jail today for beating up his girlfriend – enabling him to challenge for the world heavyweight title next month.
And then there is a description:
The 6ft 4ins fighter slapped the 24-year-old student around the face before hitting her bottom and legs in the May attack in Mayfair after finding a message on her phone in which a man called her “babe”, City of Westminster magistrates heard. The relationship has now ended. District Judge Quentin Purdy said: “I accept that, at least, in your favour if you wanted to cause her really serious injury, my goodness you are capable of doing it.”
Hmm….
I’m kind of undecided how I feel at the moment. Excuse what willprobably be a stream of consciousness from here on in…. I hate the fact he has hit a woman, but if it was ‘only’ a slap, and only once, then…. I don’t know. I really don’t know what to say. I have lost respect for him based on this, but when I compartmentalize, I realise I still want Chisora to win on December the 11th. As a fighter he still has me wishing him well, but as a man… not so much. Funny of the judge to acknowledge Chisora’s ability to cause pain, as if that was somekind of redeeming feature. Well, hell, we’ve all been mad and felt like giving someone a slap (women… we love them but God they know how to twist us up when they want to…) but the guys I respect the most have never allowed anger to be made manifest physically where a woman is concerned.
Wayne Rooney shags hookers, which I also really don’t like, but I still want him to do well when he pulls on a Utd or England shirt….
Most fight fans would not spend a dime to watch Van Gogh paint 'Sunflowers', but they would fill Yankee Stadium to see him cut off his ear. (Bill Nack)
I meant to say: had it been a punch, then I'd never want to hear anything of him again. Period.
Also: they say he’s 6’4’’… is that true? I thought he was about 6’1’’….
Most fight fans would not spend a dime to watch Van Gogh paint 'Sunflowers', but they would fill Yankee Stadium to see him cut off his ear. (Bill Nack)
Hmmm. I can see what you’re saying, but I can’t possibly give Chisora my support after this. I actually know his trainer’s son quite well – he’s 18 and 6"8, I’ve never felt so safe with someone in my life before! – and he insists that Chisora’s a good bloke, but he just strikes me as an arrogant cock. I’d been sort of coming round recently – after all my rants about him in the past – but this just turns me right back to my previous position.
By the way, on the topic of this being Upset of the Decade – I reckon it’s a bigger upset than Tyson-Douglas if it happens. Not in terms of global shock value, because Wladimir isn’t perceived to be the baddest man on the planet; however, Tyson being outboxed by an in-shape, talented and taller man in Douglas is, comparative to Wladimir being beaten by a much shorter, less mobile, slower and less powerful guy, surely much less surprising.
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by Oli Goldstein on Nov 10, 2010 3:58 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
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