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Bad Left Hook Fight Preview: Sergio Martinez v. Paul Williams II

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World Middleweight Championship, 12 Rounds
Sergio Martinez (c) v. Paul Williams

In 2009, Paul Williams, a former welterweight and junior middleweight titlist with a freakish height of around 6'3" and an absurd 82" reach, signed a deal to fight middleweight champion Kelly Pavlik. Pavlik had been signed to face Sergio Mora in the summer, but didn't do it. Then a fight with Williams was made for October. Again, Pavlik bailed, citing staph infection in his hand. Those who saw Pavlik's hand know that the injury was not a lie.

So the fight was rescheduled for December 5 in Atlantic City, Pavlik's boxing home away from home. It was a highly-anticipated fight that HBO was very much behind -- they even moved around potential fights in December to accommodate the bout. But then Pavlik pulled out once again, claiming the staph infection was still too severe to fight Williams, though they did ask for a short window to postpone the fight another week or two.

Rightly fearing that Pavlik had no intention to show up and fight Williams any time in December, the Williams camp moved on and signed a fight with junior middleweight contender Sergio Martinez. Both southpaws who weren't known for brawls, Williams and Martinez were expected to put on a fight that might be interesting, but surely wasn't going to be spectacular.

Then they put on something spectacular. Both fighters went down in the opening round, and tore into each other with savage brutality over 12 incredibly competitive rounds. Many scored the fight close for Williams, who won by decision. Many had it close for Martinez, whose stock only shot upward with the great fight. Many felt it was a draw. Ringside judge Pierre Benoist had it 119-110 for Williams, which was the worst scorecard of the year, and not even possibly excusable by the age-old (and often quite right) explanation of "well fights look different ringside than on TV." Nobody could have felt Williams won 11 of those 12 rounds, considering many of them were quite clearly Martinez's rounds.

There was some brief talk of a rematch, and some brief talk of Pavlik-Williams finally happening, but neither fight came to pass. Instead, Pavlik fought Martinez in April, and despite Pavlik's best performance since his rematch win over Jermain Taylor in February 2008, Martinez was too good for him. At the age of 35, Sergio Martinez claimed the middleweight championship of the world. Just months prior, no one would have even pegged him as being in line for the title, let alone the man who would dethrone Pavlik.

After Pavlik passed on a rematch he could have claimed contractually, and Paul Williams picked up a bizarre and mostly meaningless four-round technical decision win over Kermit Cintron, the time was right. Much haggling ensued, but in the end, the rematch was signed.

So here we are, with Sergio Martinez and Paul Williams ready to square up again. They thrilled us last year, and in a month packed with great fights and big events, this awesome rematch is nearly lost in the shuffle. But believe me, it shouldn't be.

Grading the Fighters

MARTINEZ   WILLIAMS
B- Punching Power B-
A- Hand Speed B+
B+ Defense B-
B+ Punch Resistance
B+
A Heart A

I think both of these guys displayed champion-level guts last December, and there's more to their A's in heart than just that fight, too. Martinez has followed an odd career path, coming out of his native Argentina in 2002 to start fighting in Spain and the United Kingdom. Prior to his move out of his home country, he had just one loss, which was to Antonio Margarito in 2000. In the UK rings, he claimed the lightly-regarded IBO junior middleweight title, and then picked up one of a million WBC trinekts, mostly staying in Spain through 2007.

I say all that to get where I'm going here. Martinez could have been largely written off as a guy with a fluffed-up record built on cans and mediocre opposition. I admit, and have admitted before, that I did just that with him. I remember seeing him fight on Vs. once in 2007 against Russell Jordan, and wondering why he was fighting that level of competition at such an advanced stage of his career? But then he got a shot on HBO in 2008 against Alex Bunema, and tore him apart. He was matched then with Cintron, and clearly won the fight, only to be screwed by poor refereeing and the ringside judges scoring it a majority draw.

His heart, though, came through. He didn't whine after the loss to Cintron, he simply moved on with his career. He took a fight with Williams on short notice and made the best of it. He then went into Kelly Pavlik's other house in Atlantic City and slashed the champion en route to a convincing 12-round win. His heart has been displayed in the way he's carried himself. He's incredibly confident.

Williams, on the other hand, has shown it in the ring. It's easy to forget that he got cracked hard by Walter Matthysse in their 2006 fight, but recovered and came back to stop Matthysse in 10. He then went through a good brawl with Antonio Margarito in 2007, winning by decision and claiming his first major title. And when he was upset in his very next fight, he came back a few months later to knock out the man who beat him (Carlos Quintana) in the first round. Through it all, Williams has stayed pretty active, despite the fact that many of the top opponents for him simply don't want to fight him. (There are two sides to that, as always, but we'll acknowledge that he's not exactly high on a lot of lists for name fighters.)

Both of them can take a good shot. Williams was really hurt in the first round against Martinez, and battled through the pain, often seeming like he was fighting on instinct. Martinez is so slick (B+ defense) that he often doesn't get hit much at all, but showed against Williams he can take punches, and against Pavlik, too.

They have high hand speed ratings from me, but have completely different types of speed. Williams is at his best when he's volume punching. He's never really learned to use his height and reach to the advantage it should be, but frankly he just fights better inside. Williams is an awkward, odd fighter. He really doesn't fit the stereotype of his body at all, and he can fire off a ton of punches before opponents retaliate. Martinez is a cutie who keeps his arms down and still manages to out-quick most guys; he's not Roy Jones Jr., but he's not one of the many bad imitations, either.

Williams' power would rate higher at 154 or 147, but as a middleweight his power is just pretty good. Same for Martinez, though Martinez's power is better than his KO mark (24 stoppages in 45 wins), and he's a slashing puncher, which always gives him an elevated chance to open up cuts on his foes.

Star Power

Relevance:

It's for the legitimate, lineal middleweight championship of the world, and a fight between two guys you can argue as top five pound-for-pound in the world.

Good Fight Potential:

I know, I know. The first one was a FOTY candidate. But the way that fight played out was truly stunning. Nobody expected a toe-to-toe war from these two last December, and even though we've seen that happen when they fight one another, I think it's still a little crazy to expect it to happen again. That fight's first round led to an ultra aggressive outing from both men. It seemed like a fight where corner advice and gameplans were thrown out the window after the opening round knockdowns, and both men just started going 100mph the whole way. They knew they could hurt their foe, and saw the openings being presented. Defense was abandoned. That's not likely to happen again. Both have been involved in other good fights, and their styles just might lead to another war. But I'd advise to temper expectations so that a good, tactical fight with some nice exchanges doesn't seem like a letdown.

Overall Pre-Fight Score:

It's a rematch of a FOTY contender for all the marbles at 160 pounds, one of the most celebrated weight classes in boxing history. You can't ask much more.

Prediction

This is a fact, and cannot be argued: Almost every time two fighters rematch, the winner of the first fight wins the second fight. That's just statistical analysis. That's why great trilogies (or beyond) are so special and unique. Generally speaking, the man who wins the first time will win the second time.

But this one's a little different than usual. They were fighting each other on short notice last time around. Williams had trained to fight Kelly Pavlik, who is nothing like Martinez. Martinez had not trained to fight a massively tall southpaw, either. Both of them came in far less prepared than you'd ever want a top-level fighter to come in for an HBO main event. And both of them, you might argue, showed weaknesses that you won't see this time around. And I think that's mostly because they're training for each other this time, and not so much because they've fought before. That first fight was such a drastic and radical departure from what was expected that I almost feel like you can throw that out when trying to analyze this one before the bell.

Williams seemed a little lackluster in his three-plus rounds against Kermit Cintron this year, but it was three rounds and change. Paul might have turned it on after, or maybe not. He's had some performances where he didn't seem like such a big deal, frankly, and others where he's been pretty sensational. Martinez, since rising into the top flight of the sport, has been impressive pretty much every fight to one degree or another, and actually seems like he's getting better every time out since the Cintron fight.

This is one of those fights where I really do not have a concrete pick in mind. I'm going to go with Sergio Martinez because I think right now, he's simply the better fighter. I scored the last fight just barely in his favor, and I just feel he's the better man at this stage of the two careers. That could mean a third fight, and at that point, maybe Williams will seem like the man with more momentum. Right now I think it's Sergio, though. Either way, we're talking about a world-class fight, so enjoy it. No promotional bulls**t, no melodrama, no nastiness. Just two top-ranked fighters fighting for a real championship. Rare enough to savor. Martinez SD-12

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Guess I’m the first one in this room….I believe Martinez will win this a lot easier than he won the first one (yes, I know he lost the decision). I like Williams; I’m not a hater. I just think that Martinez is so slick and so fast that he is a bad match up with Williams.

Martinez by UD. Then we get a third fight. Make it a trilogy.

by FrankinDallas on Nov 16, 2010 8:20 PM EST reply actions  

I’ll take Williams by UD.

But I hope Martinez wins.

by uGotKTFO on Nov 16, 2010 9:22 PM EST reply actions  

Mostly I’m hoping for a good fight to keep boxings momentum going. The last couple weeks have been awesome with Marquez/Lopez and then Pacquiao/Margarito. Still got Katsidis/Marquez and Froch Abraham next weekend.

by uGotKTFO on Nov 16, 2010 11:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Epic writeup.

The way I see it, is that Martinez might be the bigger and stronger man in the ring. People always talk about Williams being some giant but he could boil to 147 and that says something at the end of the day. Martinez just seems just the physically bigger guy, look at their walking weight. Martinez still needs to lose around 17 lbs in 3 or 4 weeks and Williams is more or less around the limit. I guess when I see Williams I see him as a Chris Bosh type of guy. You know he is strong, like wirely strong.

I think Martinez could honestly be cute and potshot his way to a UD. I honestly believe Williams can’t really hurt him or put him down for the count because he hurts him.

I love the fight… I say Martinez via UD 116-112.

I kinda like the idea of Martinez vs Bute at 168. Bute has never faced anyone remotely as skilled or as fast as Martinez.

"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."

by Zocalo on Nov 16, 2010 9:51 PM EST reply actions  

Good to see you back, man.

Even still, Bute Martinez? I think Bute stops him inside 8. :)

Most fight fans would not spend a dime to watch Van Gogh paint 'Sunflowers', but they would fill Yankee Stadium to see him cut off his ear. (Bill Nack)

by Chaos100 on Nov 16, 2010 11:14 PM EST up reply actions  

I have been around, I just have not been posting as much. I also don’t post in fight threads because i am hosting fights more often than not.

"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."

by Zocalo on Nov 16, 2010 11:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Me got a 55 inch LED TV by the way… everyone and their mother comes to my house….lol

"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."

by Zocalo on Nov 16, 2010 11:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Well, I have to say I miss the days when it was you, me, SC, Brick, jrok, Icollins1, maxirap, and a few other priceless guys putting the world to rights,,,, :)

Most fight fans would not spend a dime to watch Van Gogh paint 'Sunflowers', but they would fill Yankee Stadium to see him cut off his ear. (Bill Nack)

by Chaos100 on Nov 16, 2010 11:39 PM EST up reply actions  

I am actually looking for that Williams/MArtinez fight and our comments on the fight…

"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."

by Zocalo on Nov 16, 2010 11:40 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm not sure I was involved in that one

but the fight threads were epic a little while back. SO funny…. :)

Most fight fans would not spend a dime to watch Van Gogh paint 'Sunflowers', but they would fill Yankee Stadium to see him cut off his ear. (Bill Nack)

by Chaos100 on Nov 16, 2010 11:40 PM EST up reply actions  

http://www.badlefthook.com/2009/12/5/1187330/bad-left-hook-live-boxing-results

"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."

by Zocalo on Nov 16, 2010 11:49 PM EST up reply actions  

I only see the Williams/Chris Bosh comparison when I think of how they both don’t know how to use their size properly.

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by Scott Christ on Nov 16, 2010 11:17 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Well think of Bosh and KG… both were rail thin when they came into the NBA but KG has bulked up and is a difference maker on both end of the court. I think Williams is a great talent but I don’t think he has maximized his ability.

"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."

by Zocalo on Nov 16, 2010 11:36 PM EST up reply actions  

ahh.. looking forward for the RBR on this fight. I won’t be able to watch this so I’m going to rely on this site for the updates.

by garapataman on Nov 16, 2010 10:07 PM EST reply actions  

i actually think williams will win

i just think he’ll be more prepared than last time and have an actual gameplan.

i watched the 1st fight again today ondemand and it was a brutal fight. i think a lot of people forget how much holding there was though. the think that was encouraging to me for both guys is they both made multiple mid fight adjustments. also i think the hbo team fully ignored the amount of jabs paul was landing, and in the exchange in the 11th jim seemed to just outright ignore the flush punches paul was landing as well.

"After this, I'm gonna kick Bob Arum's ass."
-George Lopez

by Eddie Gonzalez on Nov 16, 2010 10:34 PM EST reply actions  

Tim Starks’ recent piece for TSS makes me wonder about that. Williams’ camp STILL sounds like they think nothing of Martinez, and are primarily thinking of how to make Tall Paul his best, with little regard for who he’s fighting. I know this could just be wind. I also know which fighter would easily score the knockout if this were a purely cerebral match, though, so I’m inclined to believe this.

(http://www.thesweetscience.com/boxing-article/8485/tim-starks-special-tss-long-tall-paul-breaks-camp-craves-p4p-peak/)

The HBO team included Emmanuel Stewart, who’s never found a bigger man he wouldn’t root for, and the cleaner punches were definitely Martinez’s, close as this fight was due to Williams’ volume. Going into the rematch, I have to give who I think is more likely to make more improvement. This will be a very good fight, but roundswise, it will a clear-enough-cut Martinez UD that even Pierre Benoist would call it…a draw.

It’s only Tuesday right now? Damn.

by El Destruyo on Nov 16, 2010 10:41 PM EST up reply actions  

emmanuel KILLED me during that fight

he gave NO credit at all to sergio. even me, a guy who thinks paul won, thought it was absurd. while martinez was taking it to paul the 1st 3 rounds all manny could talk about was the punches paul was missing.

"After this, I'm gonna kick Bob Arum's ass."
-George Lopez

by Eddie Gonzalez on Nov 17, 2010 2:30 AM EST up reply actions  

I agree in general with your assessment Scott, but differ on a few particulars, including my pick, which as you know is for a Williams UD. This doesn’t mean I don’t like your analysis. I do—but I think there are a couple factors that you don’t capture.

As for the ratings, I pretty much agree. I want to give Williams a B in power rather than a B- at this weight, but other than that, no real quibbles.

As for the factors that I think deserve more consideration, the main one I can think of is work-rate. Williams is pretty astonishing in this department, especially for a man as big as he is, which is also indicative of his extraordinary conditioning. This brings fringe benefits. He’s one of those fighters whose defense is mostly his offense. I think work-rate, conditioning, and a more serious regard for his opponent will see him through.

As you imply above but don’t really say outright, Williams has already proven he can make adjustments and win rematches. And that’s what he’s going to do.

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by Matt Miller on Nov 16, 2010 11:27 PM EST reply actions  

like many others i think martinez won the first one

but i think he will take this one by UD. i like both (leaning hard towards williams) but i think its just martinez’s time.

by footxstomp on Nov 16, 2010 11:31 PM EST reply actions  

I just don't which Williams will show up...

The tall one.
Or the tall one who fights small.

The one that makes adjustments.
Or the one with little regard for his opponents unique skills.

The one with a game plan.
Or the one who throw lots and misses more.

If it’s the first of each of these three pairs, Martinez may be in trouble.
If it’s the latter, watch for Paul to fall.

by pakinpower on Nov 17, 2010 12:20 AM EST reply actions  

I think the first of each of those pairs

The big thing for me is that Paul can fight a lot better. Martinez probably fought as well as he could in that fight. If Paul fights smarter, he wins more comfortably. For Martinez, I think he won the first 3/4 rounds against both Pavlik and Williams before they worked out how to get back into the fight. So Paul’s not going to have that problem this time around. He’s going to have a better plan. He’s not necessarily going to have to make adjustments. He’s going to maybe break the habit of a lifetime and use the jab with more meaning and authority, Martinez is very, very, good, but I just feel there is more potential upside for Paul in the rematch

I hated every minute of training, but I said, ‘’Don’t quit. Suffer now and live the rest of your life as a champion.'’ (Bernard Hopkins)

by BrianBrock on Nov 17, 2010 2:05 AM EST up reply actions  

Me too.

I like PW…but his last few performances have made me doubt my formerly unbridled enthusiasm

by pakinpower on Nov 17, 2010 2:10 AM EST up reply actions  

Martinez probably fought as well as he could in that fight.

He fought better against Pavlik than he did against Williams.

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by Scott Christ on Nov 17, 2010 2:45 AM EST up reply actions  

Great Preview

You brought up a couple of points i hadn’t considered.
I have to say though that even up at 160,i think Martinez hits a smidgen harder than Williams,or maybe it’s his accuracy and sneaky pop (as you termed it) that makes it seem that way.
My main concern for Martinez is one you didn’t mention though.I know they should both hit 160 with relative ease come the weigh-in but i am slightly bothered by the fact that Sergio was so high at the earlyn check weigh-in and then he still had around 14lbs to lose one week before the fight.
This is not ideal but i suppose it’s not as big a deal as if he was a big midfdleweight who had trouble sweating it off.
I’ll stick with what i have though all along:
Martinez close UD (115-113)
I just think he’s the better all round fighter,and certainly more skilled.
I hate Pierre Benoist by the way and i hope we get competent judges this time.

by Matt Mosley on Nov 17, 2010 9:39 AM EST up reply actions  

I’m a fan of Kelly Pavlik, but Martinez got right on top of him early in that fight and mentally I feel from Kelly’s body language and in the corner a couple of times, e seemed pretty discouraged. He won’t be able to do that to Williams, who seems to just relish a fight.

Plus, they’re completely different fighters (Pavlik and Williams) and the former was more made to measure for him. Williams throws more punches, is more awkward and quicker. I think (or I hope for Paul’s sake) the key will be the fact that he made a lot of mistakes in the first fight. He has to tighten that up, and I think he will, as Martinez capitalised on that a lot throughout the fight. He can box better without losing that offensive dynamism. He can show Martinez something different, give Him something to adjust to. I think he has a different gear to what he showed first time round. I don’t think Martinez does.

I hated every minute of training, but I said, ‘’Don’t quit. Suffer now and live the rest of your life as a champion.'’ (Bernard Hopkins)

by BrianBrock on Nov 17, 2010 10:35 AM EST up reply actions  

The fact that Williams made the exact same mistakes against Martinez

as he did the first time against Quintana means I just don’t think he picks things up that well.

Also, Williams doesn’t REALLY have the excuse of having a short camp to train for a southpaw. Three of his previous four fights had been against southpaws.

Other than the weight thing, there’s a lot that leads me to believe that Martinez is more likely to make adjustments than Williams, and I had Martinez winning close the first time.

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by Brickhaus on Nov 18, 2010 1:56 AM EST up reply actions  

Toss up for me

I can’t wait though. It’s gonna be a good fight.

by erod on Nov 17, 2010 9:55 AM EST reply actions  

I think Martinez wins this in relatively easy fashion assuming there were no problems with his weight. Giving a counterpuncher-type fighter like Martinez is usually not advisable:
http://asktheboxer.com/sweet-science/news/1-latest-news/271-martinez-vs-williams.html

by AskTheBoxer on Nov 17, 2010 11:10 AM EST reply actions  

Martinez UD

With a knockdown along the way.

"All the time he's boxing, he's thinking. All the time he was thinking, I was hitting him." - Jack Dempsey

by Drunken cutman on Nov 17, 2010 4:02 PM EST reply actions  

I

AGREE with the CUTMAN that Martinez should win, but it is very close. Each has the tools to offset the other—

I’ve always thought that a big one-punch guy might nail Williams, and I don’t know that it wasn’t coming vs. Cintron
But Martinez is not a big one-punch guy

by Don From Prov on Nov 17, 2010 4:57 PM EST reply actions  

Yay me

"All the time he's boxing, he's thinking. All the time he was thinking, I was hitting him." - Jack Dempsey

by Drunken cutman on Nov 17, 2010 5:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Hmm. ...

Did that cheer lack enthusiasm?

by Don From Prov on Nov 18, 2010 12:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Isn't it the best?

I could resist that one…

"All the time he's boxing, he's thinking. All the time he was thinking, I was hitting him." - Jack Dempsey

by Drunken cutman on Nov 17, 2010 5:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Good man, DR--

Yes, that is the cliche (the best defense is a good offense)

AND you didn’t bite on the all-CAPS!!

by Don From Prov on Nov 18, 2010 9:05 AM EST up reply actions  

I thought about that one pretty hard, and it’s something I’ll re-evaluate after this fight. Constant offense CAN = defense, in that it still remains hard to do much with him, but Sergio is the type that can exploit weak defense (as he did against Pavlik), so we’ll see.

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by Scott Christ on Nov 17, 2010 5:41 PM EST up reply actions  

Pavlik deal is that he is a simple fighter who fights in straight lines and uses the same 1-2 combo for everything. If a guy has lateral ability it makes it a really easy to gameplan for Pavliks approach. I mean that in the sense that if you are a world class fighter and you can avoid his money punch with his the BIG RIGHT HAND, it should be easy to win vs them. I think that is why no one gives Pavlik a shot vs a guy like Bute.

"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."

by Zocalo on Nov 17, 2010 9:02 PM EST up reply actions  

MArtinez also has the badass corner man with the shades… it can’t be discounted.

"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."

by Zocalo on Nov 17, 2010 8:59 PM EST reply actions  

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