Floyd Mayweather Jr. Alleged to Have Struck Security Guard, Floyd Sr. Feeling Better
by Scott Christ on Nov 16, 2010 12:43 AM EST
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While Manny Pacquiao makes headlines for boxing, would-be rival Floyd Mayweather Jr. is back in the news again tonight, as TMZ reports that new allegations have come against the former four-division titlist.
Law enforcement sources tell us ... a private security guard who was patrolling inside Floyd's gated community drove up to Floyd's house a few hours ago to confront the boxer about a parking situation.
We're told the security guard rolled down his window to talk to Floyd ... and that's when Floyd allegedly unleashed his finger -- striking the dude in the face.
Cops were called to the scene and knocked on Floyd's door -- but we're told the boxer refused to open up.
TMZ says that sources have told them that police will turn the case over to the D.A., who will decide whether or not to press charges.
Mayweather was recently hit with a restraining order and pleaded not guilty to eight charges in his ongoing domestic violence case.
In happy Mayweather family news, Floyd's father is doing fine after a health scare that landed him in the hospital last week. Chris Robinson reported on Sunday at BoxingScene.com that "Big Floyd" is back home and feeling better. The elder Mayweather also had thoughts on last week's Antonio Margarito/Brandon Rios camp video controversy. Floyd Sr. has attracted his share of criticism over the years for trash talk and sometimes outlandish statements, but said, "I would never take nothing like that and throw it out there like that to Freddie or Pac Man. That’s not a good thing, that’s real bad. I thought it was cruel and ugly."
Best wishes to the 57-year-old Floyd Sr., and here's hoping he keeps feeling better, and we'll have more on the situation with Jr. if anything comes of it.
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Are the commissions giving belts for beating civilians these days.
If so, Floyd ’s trophy case is overflowing at the Big Boy Mansion.
First women. Now security guards.
I love how Sr. said he “would never take nothing like that and throw it out there like that to Freddie or Pac Man”.
Oh, really?
Sr. has thrown around ugly allegations and other nonsense, but he never went after something that truly personal. Unless I’m forgetting something?
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
by Scott Christ on Nov 16, 2010 1:37 AM EST up reply actions
No, not really.
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
by Scott Christ on Nov 16, 2010 7:23 AM EST up reply actions
Fair enough. I do... but we're not here to agree all the time.
I do think that between Floyd’s run in last year at the ice skating rink, his domestic dispute allegations, this and his video …his private/personal life is starting to spiral more than a bit.
In the end, he probably needs the ring more than he has been willing to acknowledge.
I do think the racist video was pretty personal and that’s at least in the same ballpark as Margarito’s video… Especially because Mayweather made that video himself and was talking directly into the camera for everybody to hear.
http://www.firesteveaddazio.com
Fire Steve Addazio.
BTW, I know the original question was about Sr, not Jr. But still, I don’t think Sr. can throw stones when he at least lives in his son’s glass house.
http://www.firesteveaddazio.com
Fire Steve Addazio.
He’s his own self wherever he lives.
There is no safety in numbers, or in anything else--James Thurber, 1939
No, I know, but I think he can’t defend Jr’s actions while attacking someone else for something similar… of course, based on the premise that their acts are similar (which I think they are)
http://www.firesteveaddazio.com
Fire Steve Addazio.
In the end, they all stink in the 'character' department
But as I said in another post, we really only follow them because they fight. Other considerations are minor.
As to their idiotic rants and videos, this is a function of the times. We can only imagine what a video, twitter, etc from Benny Paret would have sounded like had it existed at the time.
Floyd allegedly unleashed his finger
WTF is unleashing his finger? He flicked his face or something? How did the cops show up after a security guard called and said that a 5’ 7" guy “unleashed a finger into my face?”
This story is stupid, and nothing will come of it.
"The bell that tolls for all in boxing belongs to a cash register."
-Bob Verdi
by Waldo Rastel on Nov 16, 2010 2:26 AM EST reply actions 2 recs
You don’t understand. Floyd Mayweather Jr. has been studying the 5 Deadly Venomous techniques of the deadly snake-style finger of death. This report sounds just as stupid as my comment.
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VEe is ANIMated!
by VeeisAnimated on Nov 16, 2010 10:29 AM EST up reply actions
At least your comment got a little chuckle out of me.
This report….nope.
"You can have the knowledge that a tomato is a fruit, but it takes wisdom not to put it in a fruit salad." Jerry Reynolds
by kingsfan300 on Nov 16, 2010 12:24 PM EST up reply actions
Floyd’s loathesome, but so are a lot of, shall we say, Napoleonic security guards, and an unleashed finger doesn’t sound like much of an assault to me. PBF probably gave him the finger, and is being cited for nonPC rudeness. There are a lot of people out there who are convinced that rudeness is a federal crime, and it’s not, it’s just rudeness—unpleasant and against the rules of the house, maybe, but not a crime.
There is no safety in numbers, or in anything else--James Thurber, 1939
Floyd Sr’s an easy target but I kinda’ like the guy. A bit naff and nutty but he seems harmless enough. A good fighter in his day too – and a brilliant artist. Good luck to him.
"Anytime you go thirty rounds with a guy, try to kill each other, and have the utmost respect for each other, no one understands that, but guys who have been to war understand it." - Micky Ward on Arturo Gatti.
I’m inclined to agree with you. The art kind of turned me toward him too. I’ve never heard of him doing anything personally violent or vicious to anyone, and by now you would have, seems to me. His tragedy is he’s stuck with loving the other two, and he can’t help that.
There is no safety in numbers, or in anything else--James Thurber, 1939
I am unleashing my finger at my computer screen. How do TMZ and “Gawker” stay afloat while the whole economy is sinking into Hell?
"My God, kids today think that the laces are for tying up the gloves."
-- Fritzie Zivic
People eat this shit up jrok
From police logs….to sex scandals….this crap has always had a huge audience.
Who are Paris Hilton and Kim Kardashian without sex tapes.
It's a good thing Manny and Mayweather wear gloves
I would hate for Manny to feel the wrath of Mayweather’s finger.
by erod on Nov 16, 2010 10:38 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
Maybe the Mayweather's are working on a pre-fight prostate exam.
As a negotiating tactic if the PED thing doesnt hold up.
by pakinpower on Nov 16, 2010 11:02 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
My God.... my sides actually hurt!!
This thread has been thr funniest thing I’ve read in ages, what with jrok, you, sigidy….
I’m still laughing now… :)
Most fight fans would not spend a dime to watch Van Gogh paint 'Sunflowers', but they would fill Yankee Stadium to see him cut off his ear. (Bill Nack)
I want Manny to destroy this guy and then Floyd can fade into background forever
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by teabaggingexper on Nov 16, 2010 10:48 AM EST reply actions
Manny don't want anything to do with Mayweather
Manny still never said that he wanted to fight Mayweather but instead HE always says that, IF THE PEOPLE WANT IT THEN I WONT HAVE A PROBLEM, MY JOB IS TO ENTERTAIN THE PEOPLE.
Why won’t he say Mayweather’s name? Not Freddie “THE” Roach, but Pacman. Also did anybody take notice to the[ I’m guessing] 10 ounce gloves that they were using. With Margarito rehydrated at 165lbs and Pacman at 150 the speed alone killed Margarito. Now you got a SLOW fighter with little gloves and his damage will be apparent “ONLY” if he can catch his opponent and a smaller “Faster” guy with small gloves landing at will, no matter what Pacman hit him with as long as it was constant it would cause damage to anybody and appear like he was killing a guy all night.
Totally different scenario with Mayweather. This is the reason why Roach can get trainer of the year every year “NOT” because he can train a fighter “BUT” because he knows how to pick opponents. TAKE A LOOK AROUND!
If you always thought what you thought, then you wouldn't think what you knew.
by Haans Bishop on Nov 16, 2010 12:31 PM EST up reply actions
Pacquiao was 148 hydrated, not 150.
10oz gloves are pretty much standard in fights at 154, unless I’m mistaken.
I have no idea what the rest of your post even means, if I’m honest.
Most fight fans would not spend a dime to watch Van Gogh paint 'Sunflowers', but they would fill Yankee Stadium to see him cut off his ear. (Bill Nack)
I don't think either Man is afraid
"I guess I can’t do anything if you’re just irrational, but to point it out and move on."
- fundamentallysound
I don't think Floyd is afraid of Manny,
but he’s afraid of losing his ‘0’ and, afraid of having it proven that he’s not the greatest as he always tells himself.
by SmittytheCutman on Nov 16, 2010 10:08 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Do people really believe this?
Do people actually believe that Floyd would have some type of mental breakdown if he lost a fight? I always viewed the “I’m the greatest.”, “I have no losses”, “Who? 3-losses so-and-so” stuff as just trash talk.
Other than arguably Mosley (where he was still a 3-1 favorite), he hasn't taken a fight where he even has a chance of losing since he was a lightweight
He obviously cherishes that zero and is very risk averse with it. If he wasn’t, he would have made a lot more money by now. He’s probably missed out on $50 – $100 million at this point by not fighting when he could have.
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"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
I disagree
Zab, ODH, Mosley, and Hatton all were legitimate opponents at welterweight and above. I would also argue that other then Margarito, there really wasn’t anybody else out there that wanted to fight him at that point. Don’t say Cotto, because Arum never wanted to put Cotto in there with Mayweather. And don’t mention any no-drawing-power fighters either, because it has to make money too.
Zab is hard to remember because when Floyd signed for it it was a great fight, but once it rolled around it wasn’t since he’d just lost to Baldomir. But I agree, since Floyd wasn’t expecting to fight a guy coming in with a loss. Hell he almost dropped the fight to face Cory Spinks instead. Oscar I think was a very, very legitimate fight, and Hatton was…well, I never really thought Ricky had a shot to beat him, but he earned the fight and I had and have no problem with it.
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
by Scott Christ on Nov 17, 2010 5:44 PM EST up reply actions
If Floyd and Cory spinks ever shared a ring, I think the universe would implode.
Most fight fans would not spend a dime to watch Van Gogh paint 'Sunflowers', but they would fill Yankee Stadium to see him cut off his ear. (Bill Nack)
Against Collazo, yes
Against Mayweather, he didn’t look so bad.
I’m still don’t get why people say he ducked Margarito. Mayweather did the same thing Mosley did when people wanted them to fight at lightweight. Turned it down to wait on De La Hoya. I think any fighter with a brain would turn down a fight with Margarito if it meant the biggest payday ever against DLH.
Look, though, it was a smart money move on Mayweather’s part to wait and see how DLH-Mayorga panned out (while at the same time buying his freedom from Top Rank). Of course he preferred a fight with DLH to Margarito. The guaranteed 8 mill was nothing compared to what he stood to make (and DID make) fighting DLH for 10 million with a 30% chunk of the PPV.
"My God, kids today think that the laces are for tying up the gloves."
-- Fritzie Zivic
That said
I didn’t think Hatton was an appropriate opponent for Mayweather at 147. I thought he was a light touch for a maximum payday. Like a lot of people at the time, I would’ve preferred to see May defend his title against the dangerous contenders fighting in the division. Another shrewd business/marketing decision ("Somebody’s O must go!"), but not boost for his boxing legacy in my opinion. Hatton looked horrendous against Collazo at welterweight.
"My God, kids today think that the laces are for tying up the gloves."
-- Fritzie Zivic
Other than arguably Mosley (where he was still a 3-1 favorite), he hasn’t taken a fight where he even has a chance of losing since he was a lightweight
That statement can go one or two ways. It can go the way that you’re taking it as saying that he’s scared of tough oposition or it can go the way of because he’s always a favorite in all of his fight might just be a credit to just how great he is.
I mean tell me, name 3 boxers from the time Mayweather was a lightweight until now that were in his weight class who you or Vegas would’ve had Mayweather as the underdog. I cant think of one…
The 2008 Margarito would have been an interesting one for the bookies.
And of course, 2009 Pacquaio was favoured by some.
2010 Pacquaio? Favoured by more.
Most fight fans would not spend a dime to watch Van Gogh paint 'Sunflowers', but they would fill Yankee Stadium to see him cut off his ear. (Bill Nack)
That comment made absolutely no sense. I’m genuinely really baffled. Nevertheless, if you really reallllly believe Manny doesn’t want the fight, why don’t you just take a look at his record. He’s fought just about the best available guys in every division he’s been in, barring 147 (because Floyd still won’t fight) and 154 (where he took on a much bigger guy). Then take a look at Floyd’s, and decide who doesn’t always fight the best. It’s hardly rocket science…
Such were the days, still, hot, heavy, disappearing one by one into the past, as if falling into an abyss for ever open in the wake of the ship; and the ship, lonely under a wisp of smoke, held on her steadwast way black and smouldering in a luminous immensity, as if scorched by a flame flicked at her from a heaven without pity.
by Oli Goldstein on Nov 16, 2010 1:00 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Explain
Why won’t Manny say Mayweather’s name and just say, I WANT TO FIGHT FLOYD MAYWEATHER JR.? You hear everything else but that! If the fans want it to happen. Freddie Roach, We want Mayweather. Manny can speak for himself.. hell he’s out singing with Will Ferrel. When you ask him he like, "Me, me, me, me, if, if, The fans want it to happen then it should because I want to entertain the people. Just say who you want to fight and what you want to do. Manny is a politician for Christ sake.
If you always thought what you thought, then you wouldn't think what you knew.
by Haans Bishop on Nov 16, 2010 1:17 PM EST up reply actions
Actually the reply is very much in the mold of a politician :P
but i agree with your other point – post JMM Pacmans opposition is not that impressive. I think people would be more critical if it wasn’t for the huge void in the heavyweights, no HW to define boxing and against other sports so they pull out the Manny card
I can't disagree more strongly
Three years ago, when they were ruling the weight class outside of Floyd, if you said someone would dominate Cotto, Margarito and Clottey, people would have told you to lay down the crack pipe if you said that person would be Manny Pacquiao. The fact that he’s beaten these three guys, two of which were top 10 P4P not long ago (and still might be other than the fact that they were all beating each other), all while fighting 2 – 3 weight classes above his ideal weight, is pretty insane.
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"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
im not attcking Manny, BUT -
…if you think beating Cotto when a) marg pummeled the crap out of him and b) they made him fight at 145 or 146 an didn’t allow him to rehydrate after the weigh in (intentionally worsening his stamina issue) – makes Manny special your just wrong.
…and dont forget Marg who was brutalised by a 38 yr old Mosely, who had an impressive 38-0 35 ko’s at lightweight.
…can say the same about Hatton.
… then there’s the joke fight vs De La Hoya. I’d like to see you defend that as competative.
These guys were already beaten up, Manny just looks impressive doing it the second time around. Why his definig fights are still vs JMM.
marg pummeled the crap out of him
While Margorito did inflict a high degree of physical damage on Cotto, the victory was not some one – sided rout. If anything, Cotto looked very skillful, but could not overcome the incredible heart and physical resistance of Antonio. Why this stops him from counting as a good win, is beyond me.
they made him fight at 145 or 146
Not a severe cut for Cotto, who had weighed 146, and 146 and a half, for several recent fights anyway.
Kindly supply a link with proof of a post weigh in ban on rehydration, as I do not recall any such thing being in effect.
(intentionally worsening his stamina issue
What stamina issue?
and dont forget Marg who was brutalised by a 38 yr old Mosely
This seems like a very selective look at what actually happened, considering that Margorito was compeltely thrown on that night, due to all the issues surrounding his gloves.
can say the same about Hatton.
What you said before this, was that someone was knocked out by Mosley, which is definitely not something that can be said of Hatton. So, what actually is your point here?
his definig fights are still vs JMM.
Pacquaio has changed drastically since his fight with Marquez, and if you can’t see this, then that’s worrying.
"All the time he's boxing, he's thinking. All the time he was thinking, I was hitting him." - Jack Dempsey
by Drunken cutman on Nov 16, 2010 5:45 PM EST up reply actions
And on Margo v. Mosley
Margo had weight problems – the Pac v. Margo fight was at 150.
"Yes Gina, I am a Wise Cracker"
I think Manny argueable the best of this generation, but certainly isnt one of THE greatest because of the state of his opposition.
I don’t know how you can think Hatton, Cotto or Marg were in any shape which could call Mannys victories defining. These fighters had not just suffered defeats but they had suffered the career changing defeats before Pacquiao
Hatton was undefeated at junior welterweight
His only loss was after he foolishly ventured…and faired poorly….at welterweight. And chose to fight to Floyd.
Other than that, you can check the record. He ruled his division.
And Manny crushed him.
Which welterweights would you have had him fight then?
I’m serious here, too, despite the fact that I think you have to be at least partially insane to post what you have.
If you were picking Manny Pacquaio’s career path in 2008, which welterweights would you have said were the best guys he could face, were he to step up to welterweight? Because (forgetting Floyd for a minute, for obvious reasons) if your answers are not Cotto, Margarito and Clottey, then you might want to have a serious rethink.
Even retrospectively, to give you some leeway on this, who would you have had him fight at welterweight if you were picking his career path now? Aside from Floyd, and Mosley (who was unavailable for at least two of the three dates Pacquaio fought) there is simply no-one else.
Unless you know about some secret welterweight society which includes a lot of guys who could have provided a sterner challenge, but that NONE of us here at BLH have ever heard of?
Seriously, who would have represented better wins on his record in the last five fights than De La Hoya (jumping two weight classes), Hatton (at his best weight, at which he was unbeaten), Cotto (who will almost certainly be regarded as one of the fighters who defined the last 10 years of welterweight boxing), Clottey (who has been top 5 in the division for years) and Margarito (who has beaten both Cotto and Clottey, and is a fucking big welterweight,that Manny fought in the weight class above)?? I’m genuinely asking the question: who else could/should he have faced?
Most fight fans would not spend a dime to watch Van Gogh paint 'Sunflowers', but they would fill Yankee Stadium to see him cut off his ear. (Bill Nack)
by Chaos100 on Nov 16, 2010 9:21 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Wow Manny jumped 2 weight classes to beat up an old weight drained De La Hoya… sorry but didn’t Manny get knocked the **** out twice cos he was weight drained? Funny how people can dismiss one but not the other.
Clottey lost to all the high level opponents he faced and Hatton was shot. Suppose your going to bring up David Diaz next lol.
And you like to brush past the fact Manny could of fought both Mosley and Floyd already, but choose not to and theres also Williams and Berto who have hardly been active because they can’t get opponents…
…but it’s all about timing and that’s why he faced cotto, hatton and marg when they posed the least amount of threat. It’s why i guarentee his next fight will be Mosley.
“Can’t get opponents” is not Andre Berto’s biggest problem. And poor Paul Williams has only been able to fight Winky Wright, Sergio Martinez, Antonio Margarito, Verno Phillips, Carlos Quintana, Kermit Cintron, and had two scrapped dates with Kelly Pavlik. The poor, poor man. He’s truly ducked and that’s not just a way to market him at all. By the way, the last time Williams fought at 147, Manny was three weeks from moving up to lightweight.
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
by Scott Christ on Nov 17, 2010 8:27 AM EST up reply actions
To be fair, Paul was only able to fight Winky Wright because no one wants to fight Winky either (or, at least, no one wants pay Winky what he thinks he’s worth to fight him)
"My God, kids today think that the laces are for tying up the gloves."
-- Fritzie Zivic
I think it’s more the latter (the pay thing) than the former (which was true years ago for sure), but OK, that is fair.
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
by Scott Christ on Nov 17, 2010 9:16 AM EST up reply actions
The Floyd thing has been done to death, which is why I avoided it.
But I firmly and irrevocably place the blame for that fight not happening at the feet of Floyd.
As for Mosley, he was signed to fight other opponents at times when Manny was loking for opponents. I have no doubt that had Shane not been signed to fight Berto, Manny would not have signed to fight Clottey.
But Clottey was consensus top 5 in the division, so it’s not like Manny took a soft touch. It was a week (if memory serves) after Manny signed to fight Clottey that the Berto/Mosley fight was called off, so it’s fair to say Manny couldn’t have signed to fight Shane then.
I’m actually done with this. If you think Manny Pacquiao has taken an easy route to stardom, given where he came from, who he has fought and where he is now, then you’re an idiot, and I have no desire to indulge your ramblings. I’ll gladly agree to disagree on this one.
Most fight fans would not spend a dime to watch Van Gogh paint 'Sunflowers', but they would fill Yankee Stadium to see him cut off his ear. (Bill Nack)
but it’s all about timing and that’s why he faced cotto, hatton and marg when they posed the least amount of threat.
Oh wow. I didn’t even see that paragraph. I think I need to lie down.
Most fight fans would not spend a dime to watch Van Gogh paint 'Sunflowers', but they would fill Yankee Stadium to see him cut off his ear. (Bill Nack)
Hatton was at his best and undefeated weight when Many finished him in two.
The weight where he ruled for years.
Cotto was dangerous for any welterweight….let alone a smaller man. Losing to Margarito in a war hardly makes him less so. Moreover, Floyd could have called his name…but he never did. Still hasn’t.
Margarito has been there since Floyd flat out walked away from 8 million guaranteed.
I don’t have a clue where you are going with this….
He walked away from 8 million and walked right back into 8 million and the Welterweight Title from Baldomir…
Make sense????
Yes it does.
Obvious sense.
He chose the easy fight and the easy money.
And avoided the hard one.
Simple as that.
While Floyd chose Baldomir
Here’s what boxing historian said at that time (5/23/08)
“"This isn’t the fight of the decade, it’s the fight of the century!" declared the man who has seen them all since Joe Louis. "I got two guys who are all action all the time. I think they can send the judges home right now [laughs]! I mean, this is beautiful. I love this fight. And these are the two – two of the top 10, if not two and three – and I’m not sure I’d put Mayweather in that 1-2-3 in the world today, pound-for-pound. This is a great fight."
Floyd was no where to be found.
Well, he was right about the quality of the fight to come.
Most fight fans would not spend a dime to watch Van Gogh paint 'Sunflowers', but they would fill Yankee Stadium to see him cut off his ear. (Bill Nack)
Still waiting for answers on any of the points in this post.
Most fight fans would not spend a dime to watch Van Gogh paint 'Sunflowers', but they would fill Yankee Stadium to see him cut off his ear. (Bill Nack)
I don't get it either
I have no problem with Pacquaio’s opponents. He has been strategic in picking some opponents. ODH was strategic but that wasn’t easy to see until the fight was over. I originally thought the fight would be a joke. People keep saying that Cotto and Hatton were shot because they lost a previous fight. One loss makes you a shot fighter automatically now?? Clottey was the only other guy available because Manny was scared that giving blood would make him shrivel up and grow a vagina before a fight. Margarito was chosen because he was the slowest big guy around and had no defense. Still a big guy though, but a very well scouted big guy.
Not to mention that Cotto subsequently dominated much larger Foreman
Let’s see what happens with Cotto before starting to call him “shot”. A lot of folks still have him top 10 P4P, and he should be in everyone’s top 20.
Margarito’s pretty clearly past his best, and that’s fine. Clottey’s the same guy he ever was, and if he decides to ever come out of hiding, he’s still easily a top 5 welterweight in a depleted division.
If Pac fought Berto and then dominated him too, the excuse would be that he’s green and unproven.
Bad Left Hook - The SB Nation boxing blog
"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
The "a loss means you suck now" thought process..
..is damaging to boxing. It prevents some guys from taking on the challengers that they should, especially hyped up prospects. Look at the UFC. Guys lose there all the time, but yet they still pit those guys against other top contenders constantly and with good results.
Long felt the same way. It’s the best thing about UFC.
There is no safety in numbers, or in anything else--James Thurber, 1939
That's pretty much the main appeal of the UFC, to me
"All the time he's boxing, he's thinking. All the time he was thinking, I was hitting him." - Jack Dempsey
by Drunken cutman on Nov 17, 2010 4:08 PM EST up reply actions
Agreed.
Losses are over-weighed…and sometimes even under-rated. It’s hard to learn if you’re afraid to make mistakes.
Explain
Why Manny’s level of opposition is infinitely higher than that of Floyd, and then maybe we can talk. Until then, please stop, because you’re making a totally irrelevant point.
Such were the days, still, hot, heavy, disappearing one by one into the past, as if falling into an abyss for ever open in the wake of the ship; and the ship, lonely under a wisp of smoke, held on her steadwast way black and smouldering in a luminous immensity, as if scorched by a flame flicked at her from a heaven without pity.
by Oli Goldstein on Nov 16, 2010 3:41 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
It would be quite funny if PBF agreed to a fight..
only for Manny to tell him to fuck himself. Thing is though, I’d love to see them meet.
I know what you're saying...
But it’d be so much funnier if Manny just fucked him up in the ring!
Such were the days, still, hot, heavy, disappearing one by one into the past, as if falling into an abyss for ever open in the wake of the ship; and the ship, lonely under a wisp of smoke, held on her steadwast way black and smouldering in a luminous immensity, as if scorched by a flame flicked at her from a heaven without pity.
by Oli Goldstein on Nov 16, 2010 4:54 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Blimey, me too. When it looked the fight was going to get signed last December, my Grandpa – who fought to a very high standard in the amateurs, and has a lot of relatives who were decent professionals – was really interested in getting tickets. Please God, should it happen – (it won’t, but we can dream) – we’ll be there!
On a side point, have you got Premier Sports on Sky? I subscribed today; for 6.99 a month, we get Green-Flores and, most significantly, Martinez-Williams. Not bad at all!
Such were the days, still, hot, heavy, disappearing one by one into the past, as if falling into an abyss for ever open in the wake of the ship; and the ship, lonely under a wisp of smoke, held on her steadwast way black and smouldering in a luminous immensity, as if scorched by a flame flicked at her from a heaven without pity.
by Oli Goldstein on Nov 16, 2010 5:07 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
No I haven't got it,
(I just haggled Sky down by 25% last month!) but I had a quick look, as you say, it’s currently previewing Martinez Williams. I never even noticed it till you pointed it out though mate! Intersting stuff about your grandpa too. Don’t be giving him too much lip!!
The Floyd's took one look at this last fight and fingered a security cop.
What they didn’t do was call Manny’s name.
I see no indication that Floyd, Floyd Sr, or Roger want any part of what they witnessed the other night. And who can blame them?
If you like, I'll explain:
Why Manny’s level of opposition is infinitely higher than that of Floyd
Or did you mean it the other way round?
Most fight fans would not spend a dime to watch Van Gogh paint 'Sunflowers', but they would fill Yankee Stadium to see him cut off his ear. (Bill Nack)
10 oz.??
8 oz. gloves were agreed to by both camps
That's even worse
You know Margarito was going to agree to anything to box again.Nothing more than a sacrificial lamb compliments of Bob Arum his promoter. It seems like some people were fooled into believing that Margarito stood a chance in winning this fight after being banned from boxing for a year. If that’s the case than I can understand that you “DON’T” understand.
Again, this fight had nothing to do with competition “BUT” instead the ability to “Combine” numbers and take advantage of some fans.
Can some one /anyone answer this, How can a boxer be Caught red handed cheating, Hands in the cookie jar, I got you on camera be "Suspended’ from boxing for a year and come back and fight for a title? Now Don King said, ONLY IN AMERICA. BUT COME ON!
If you always thought what you thought, then you wouldn't think what you knew.
by Haans Bishop on Nov 16, 2010 1:35 PM EST up reply actions
Your comments on the glove size is utterly ridiculous
Margo’s the guy who could only win with a KO, Pac could win by KO or decision. So you are making the case that by wearing the standard 8oz glove for a fight below middleweight, that favors the faster guy who can win by KO or decision and not the guy who must have the KO. That makes absolutely no sense. Margo had to have the KO, so he needed lighter gloves.
"Yes Gina, I am a Wise Cracker"
Actually
Standard is 10 oz gloves for 147 and above usually. They actually got an exception from that to use 8 oz gloves. Seems to play into Margarito’s favor more than Pacquiao’s to me though.
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"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
So first you criticize the choice of 10oz gloves over 8oz
then when you find out they were 8oz rather than 10oz, that is ‘even worse’?
Are you well?
Most fight fans would not spend a dime to watch Van Gogh paint 'Sunflowers', but they would fill Yankee Stadium to see him cut off his ear. (Bill Nack)
by Chaos100 on Nov 16, 2010 9:24 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
You are clearly just trolling now and it’s boring.
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by Scott Christ on Nov 17, 2010 3:03 AM EST up reply actions
which means, for the rest of you
He can’t respond, so you can just let this die.
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by Scott Christ on Nov 17, 2010 3:04 AM EST up reply actions
Hurrah
"All the time he's boxing, he's thinking. All the time he was thinking, I was hitting him." - Jack Dempsey
by Drunken cutman on Nov 17, 2010 4:04 PM EST up reply actions
Manny doesn't need to call out Mayweather
Mayweather is the one calling himself the best and that’s fair in some ways because he’s undefeated… but if you want to truly be the best than you have to fight everyone that is presented before you. He had the chance to fight Manny but he chose not to… he can’t call himself the best after refusing to fight. It’s not up to Manny to call anyone out. He isn’t the one talking himself up. Manny just continues to pummel anyone that’s put in front of him and go about his business. If Mayweather wants to be the best, he’s gotta fight Manny. Period.
Floyd is another Calzaghe.
Sitting in Wales, fighting the easiest justifiable opponents, proclaiming himself the best in the sport while steadfastly refusing to prove his assertions….
Aside from the Wales thing, obviously.
Most fight fans would not spend a dime to watch Van Gogh paint 'Sunflowers', but they would fill Yankee Stadium to see him cut off his ear. (Bill Nack)
by Chaos100 on Nov 16, 2010 9:26 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
At least Joe didn't quite and come back. And Joe also had fewer options in his weight class most of the time.
Boxing writer: "Iran, what are you going to do when you retire?"
Iran Barkley: "Rob your house"
by Matt Miller on Nov 16, 2010 11:36 PM EST up reply actions
er "quit" and come back (at least not yet).
Boxing writer: "Iran, what are you going to do when you retire?"
Iran Barkley: "Rob your house"
by Matt Miller on Nov 16, 2010 11:36 PM EST up reply actions
But he could have fought Roy, or Bernard, or James Toney.
And there are others too: he could have fought Benn or Collins earlier in his career. He could have moved up and fought Tarver while Tarver was still decent. He could have fought Glen Johnson rather than flat-out ducking him. He could have even made a fight with Sven Ottke, and gone in there with the intention of busting him out of there so he didn’t get ‘RobinReided’ (which is now offically a real verb… to ‘RobinReid’ someone is to ‘well and truly fuck them over and do them out of something they have worked hard for’…). Hell, I think Joe would have stopped Ottke, but he never quite had the minerals to try, instead hiding behind that excuse about having to knock him over press row just to get a draw,or something.
Even if we expel Ottke from the debate, I love this argument that Joe fought everyone he could. Had he fought everyone he could, two things would be true.
1. His record would have been filled with really really good fighters.
2. He wouldn’t be able to give it the large one about being undefeated, unless by some miracle he did actually beat Benn, Collins, Jones, Hopkins, Toney, Johnson, Tarver, maybe even Michelewski too…. what a legacy THAT would have left behind.
Most fight fans would not spend a dime to watch Van Gogh paint 'Sunflowers', but they would fill Yankee Stadium to see him cut off his ear. (Bill Nack)
Please don't compare Joe's career to Floyd's
You know damn well Floyd has fight an infinitely higher level of competition then Joe ever did.
I think they are pretty similar, to be honest.
Especially in recent years…
I mean, seriously: Marquez?
Please try to justify that fight, the weight it was at, the fact Floyd didn’t even bother making weight (thereby further increasing his size advantage), and the fact that although there were LOTS of guys calling him out, he went for a guy who had only had a couple of fights in the weight class two below, and was natural two weight classes below THAT.
I’d be genuinely amazed if you can justify any of that blatant bollocks with a straight face, and that isn’t meant as a slight on you. Some shit is exactly that, shit, and is unjustifiable and indescribable as anything else, whether you’re a fan or not.
Most fight fans would not spend a dime to watch Van Gogh paint 'Sunflowers', but they would fill Yankee Stadium to see him cut off his ear. (Bill Nack)
So Marquez was a BS fight...I agree
But other then that? No comparison at all to JC. The only competitive boxers that JC fought were Lacy (thought of as competitive at the time), Kessler,and Hopkins. I’m not counting Roy Jones, Jr. because that was as much of a farce as the Marquez fight was. 3 fighters. Thats it.
And, to be fair, Eubank.
Eubank was the wrong side of the hill, granted, but Joe hadn’t reached the zenith of his own personal arc at that point.
I class Eubank as his best win, and I thought he lost to Hopkins.
Most fight fans would not spend a dime to watch Van Gogh paint 'Sunflowers', but they would fill Yankee Stadium to see him cut off his ear. (Bill Nack)
Floyd deserves some credit for fighting Mosley
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"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
Really? Why?
When he could and should have just shut his mouth and fought Manny Pacquaio?
Most fight fans would not spend a dime to watch Van Gogh paint 'Sunflowers', but they would fill Yankee Stadium to see him cut off his ear. (Bill Nack)
ESPN Boxing
Has an AP release posted…gives a little more detail…seems as if the gated community Security and May have been in a pi##ing contest about illegal parking, officer was writin’ him up when May confronted him, he rolled down his window and was poked in the face several times. LVMPD was called…May refused to open up, refering them to his lawyer. They turned over a misdemeanor battery report to the DA…rest is up to them. Anybody see a pattern here?
"poked in the face several times."
oooh that’s what they meant by Floyd unleashing his finger. scary.
It sounds to me that you are needlessly defending a man whose behavior of this sort is well documented.
I’m sure Floyd…like most celebrities…can get this to go away. But it’s the constant stream of news, some self-generated, that he has eroded any remaining benefit of doubt in the court of public opinion.
Since the ice skating ring incident, exactly how many times has he brushed up against the authority/law.
Let’s see:
Ice Skating shooting
Baby Mama beating
Defamation
Security Guard.
Talk about competition.
Where art thou, Hans.
Floyd has fought more times _outside_of the ring against hand-picked opposition than he has in the
ring.
You just don't like him
Shooting — > Floyd supposedly knew guy who the police suspected. He wasn’t involved, nor was he a suspect.
Baby Mama Beating —> The same baby mama who made up accusations previously. All of this is alleged, meaning it hasn’t been proven because he hasn’t had his day in court yet.
Security Guard – Another alleged incident….wait till it makes it way through the court system. (But seriously, he poked the guy)
You already have an established view of what kind of person Floyd Mayweather, Jr. is. You are already convicting him of crimes that haven’t even gone to court yet and that you don’t even know what the evidence is. Being questioned by the police, or even being arrested by the police doesn’t equate to being guilty of the crime. That is unless you already had your mind made up before it happened. And it’s obvious that you already had yours made up.
I have. He's a terrific boxer....but an obnoxious celebrity.
He made his greatest fortune behaving…and continuing to behave…. like a reality TV star on HBO’s 24/7. He was a minor draw before Oscar and HBO. To his credit or not, he has burnished that image ever since.
He throws Money around and thinks it’s funny. Until it’s not.
Heaven forbid he look out of his bubble and realize that everyone else is struggling.
He makes childish, idiotic and offensive videos.
He hides behind others; his father for one.
He defames without evidence.
He may be the raps against him…but that is what money and celebrity do.
They corrupt the systems.Not getting convicted is standard fare. Floyd hates the double standard to which he is compared to Manny…..but flourishes on the one that protects him every day.
I can go on…but you tell me:
…..What exactly is there to like?
by pakinpower on Nov 17, 2010 9:17 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
It's not a popularity contest
The whole assault based on Mayweather touching somebody with his finger is dubious and screams of someone looking to capitalize on a chance encounter with a celebrity to make some money. You are basically saying, Mayweather is a bad person, therefore he deserves to have people take advantage of his celebrity to make money. It’s a bullshit train of thought. Mayweather deserves to be punished for things that he has actually done. If he happens to be convicted of beating his ex-wife, then he deserves jail time for his crime. He doesn’t deserve jail time because he’s an asshole on TV.
Mayweather likes to play the villain because quite frankly it makes for good television. People like to watch boxing to see talented fighters and good fights, but at the same time people also love storylines with villians. You are basing your judgement of a caricature he plays on TV without knowing the man personally. Some people believe to much of what they see on TV without realizing that sometimes people put on a show for the camera. I don’t know Mayweather personally so I wont make a judgement either way about what type of person he is. I have seen his community work and I have seen the racist video. I see the character he plays before fights and I see the humble guy in the post fight interview. Some people don’t see, or choose not to see both sides.
He made his greatest fortune behaving…and continuing to behave…. like a reality TV star on HBO’s 24/7. He was a minor draw before Oscar and HBO. To his credit or not, he has burnished that image ever since.
Minor compared to who? The DLH fight thrust Mayweather from a top draw in boxing to THE top draw in boxing. He wasn’t minor at all.
He throws Money around and thinks it’s funny. Until it’s not.
Heaven forbid he look out of his bubble and realize that everyone else is struggling.
What’s wrong with enjoying your money that you’ve earned? You think Manny doesn’t enjoy the money he’s earned? I’m sure Manny gives back to his community but let’s not pretend like he doesn’t own a giant mansion in the middle of an impoverished neighborhood. I saw it on 24/7. Mayweather gives back to the community too.
He makes childish, idiotic and offensive videos.
True, he made ONE offensive video. One is one too many, but he hasn’t made multiple offensive videos. You’re just making things up now.
He hides behind others; his father for one.
Mayweather speaks up about shit more then anyone else. I have yet to see him hide behind anybody.
He defames without evidence.
Yup, he did.
He may be the raps against him…but that is what money and celebrity do.
They corrupt the systems.Not getting convicted is standard fare. Floyd hates the double standard to which he is compared to Manny…..but flourishes on the one that protects him every day.
I know how the system works. I know what money and fame can do for somebody. Just because a celebrity gets off doesn’t mean they weren’t innocent either. Poor assumption.
What is there to like? I like his boxing skills. I’m not trying to be his best friend. I’m not nominating him for the Nobel Peace Prize. He’s an athlete. I’m a fan. I don’t need role models. I’m not defending Floyd Mayweather’s reputation as a person. I’m defending the idea that people should be punished for crimes they commit and not punished because the court of public opinion says you’re a bad person.
You might not need role models, but does boxing really need really bad ambassadors?
I mean, I take your point, and I don’t model myself on PBF or anyone else for that matter. But Floyd basically being an asshole and acting a heel is just bad for boxing, really. This isn’t WWE, and we don’t need guys to act the role of ‘villain’. I suppose the point I’m trying to make is that while you or I do not need role models, some people do, and some people read into the characters within a sport and extrapolate, ending with the conclusion ‘boxing is bad, and full of assholes’. It just doesn’t do the sport any good, and while I accept and agree that he should only be punished for what he actually does wrong rather than because he’s an asshole, I also don’t feel too much sympathy for him based on his actions toward others in the past. Karma is a bitch.
Most fight fans would not spend a dime to watch Van Gogh paint 'Sunflowers', but they would fill Yankee Stadium to see him cut off his ear. (Bill Nack)
This is assault (and maybe battery depending on the jurisdictional definition)
plain and simple. That is taking as true what the security guy said happened. It doesn’t matter that it was his finger, and it doesn’t matter that no damage was done. If damage were done we’d be talking about agg. assault.
Floyd’s an offensive human being.
"Yes Gina, I am a Wise Cracker"
Techinically
If the guy who poked him wasn’t RICH, I’m willing to bet money that the security guard doesn’t call the police. Poor folks can settle things like that without the police. If a celebrity is involved, some money can be made if the make the wrong move.
I gotta go with erod on this one. Yeah, I’ve heard something like this described as “simple assault,” legally, but if the “poker” and the “pokee” are average joes, it’s going to be resolved by:
1). Stream of curse words.
2). A counter-poke/shove, followed maybe by a short fist fight.
When the poker is “somebody,” things like this that would usually go unreported and quickly forgotten suddenly translate into “mental/ emotional damage” and what have you, and maybe a nuisance lawsuit.
"My God, kids today think that the laces are for tying up the gloves."
-- Fritzie Zivic
while “Jrok’s rules of chivalry” sound great, my right to stay free of Floyd’s no doubt manicured fingers is important.
Honest questions: Should it be legal, Jrok? Should we just allow people to talk shit and offensively make contact with another’s body? – that’s ok with you?
"Yes Gina, I am a Wise Cracker"
I agree it should be illegal. I’m just saying that, as a practical matter, it usually is not something people make a big deal out of. Of course, everyone reacts to this sort of stuff differently, but for many people taking the time to file a police report, attend court dates, blah, blah, blah… most folks don’t think it’s worth all that trouble.
I mean, there was a time back in the 1700’s where touching someone’s nose meant you were gonna duel with pistols at dawn, but usually they wound up just firing their pistols in the air. Why? Because time had passed and they had cooled down by then and decided it really wasn’t worth making that big a deal out of it.
Heck two Christmases ago, this fat drunk Russian guy stumbled out of a bar near where I work, asked me for a smoke. When I refused, he didn’t “unleash his finger”… he hauled off and punched me in the face! “Jrok’s rules of chivalry” ensued, and ten seconds later it was all over.
Now, I could have filed a police report for getting assaulted, for sure. But it was two days till Christmas, I still had shopping to do, I wasn’t hurt, and, frankly, I feel like the less talking I have with cops and judges, the better. Law is great, but sometimes as much of a pain in the ass for the people who are wronged as it is for the people in the wrong. Hell sometimes it’s more!
"My God, kids today think that the laces are for tying up the gloves."
-- Fritzie Zivic
yea, and that worked for you. And it may or may not work for me in a similar circumstance. And you are well within your rights to punch back, as it should be. But I don’t think people should be required to punch back, I think we should (and we do) offer some avenue to avoid responding with violence.
I’d like to see that situation though, sounds pretty funny. I don’t smoke so he probably wouldn’t have asked me. Out of curiosity, why didn’t you just give him a cig?
"Yes Gina, I am a Wise Cracker"
Because "fuck him," that's why
Besides, cigarettes ain’t cheap here in New York. With all the taxes they’ve piled on them over the years, they are up to $12 per pack, now.
"My God, kids today think that the laces are for tying up the gloves."
-- Fritzie Zivic
It costs more money to give a cigarette than to give change these days
Bad Left Hook - The SB Nation boxing blog
"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
Dude..
..when someone’s attacking you, you kind of have to fight back. Unless he’s going to let you have a timeout to call and wait for the police to arrive.
when someone’s attacking you, you kind of have to fight back
You DO have the right to fight back.
"Yes Gina, I am a Wise Cracker"
Not in the UK.....
Most fight fans would not spend a dime to watch Van Gogh paint 'Sunflowers', but they would fill Yankee Stadium to see him cut off his ear. (Bill Nack)
You do
You have the right to use reasonable force. The definition of reasonable is the tricky part.
"All the time he's boxing, he's thinking. All the time he was thinking, I was hitting him." - Jack Dempsey
by Drunken cutman on Nov 18, 2010 5:51 AM EST up reply actions
Trust me, that *may* be the case in theory, but in practice, if you hit someone, you face an assault charge.
I’ve been arrested for restraining a guy who glassed my friend, one of my best friends got charged with assault when he knocked out two guys who came at him from behind and tried to mug him.
Here’s a story for you: A girl in my boxing club won the European Women’s Amateur title in 2007. She weighs all of 8 stone, if that. She is also about 5’2’’, and has a tiny frame. (Aside from that, she is fucking awesome: I won’t even spar with her, which I say is because I’m funny about sparring with a woman, which is true, but it’s also because I know she’d beat seven shades out of me in short order!!)
Anyway, this girl was out on a night out in Cambridge, and three guys from the Cambridge University Rugby club tried chatting up her and a friend. She let them know she wasn’t interested, and they wouldn’t leave it at that. Soon enough the insults started flying, and she decided to leave. These buffoons decided to follow her, and were shouting insults as they essentailly chased her up the street (lesbian, dyke, slag, etc etc…). She turned around to tell them to fuck off, and one of them pushed her over as the others surrounded her.
What happened next I would not have believed had I not seen her in training: she proceeded to smack the shit out of all three of these guys, any one of whom weighed double what she did, and was at least a foot taller.
So you’d think that was the end of it, right? Not on your nelly. She was reported to the police, and they took her to court for 3 counts of assault. She pled the self defense thing, said that she was trying to look after herself and her friend, who had left to get away from these twats and were genuinely scared when it turned physical. This didn’t work, since she couldn’t prove that they had attempted to strike her first, even though the first aggressive contact was made by one of the guys.
So she was all about to be convicted, and had no way of defending her case, and the judge was about to rubberstamp proceedings, when he turned to these three big hard bastards and asked them, “Are you really sure you want me to make this official? Because if I sign off on this charge, there will be a public record of the fact that you three big tough fellas got beaten up by a tiny girl like her, and there is no way your reputations will ever recover. Do you REALLY want all your mates at the rugby club to know that not only did you, all of you at once, get beaten up by her, but that you pressed charges?”
Happily enough, this prospect didn’t appeal, so they dropped the charges, and she narrowly avoided getting a criminal conviction. But that wasn’t due to legal process, it was due to one man realising the farcical nature of what was about to happen, and finding the right thing to say to put an end to it. The law is an ass, but apparently that old fellow was anything but.
Most fight fans would not spend a dime to watch Van Gogh paint 'Sunflowers', but they would fill Yankee Stadium to see him cut off his ear. (Bill Nack)
Moral of the story?
In the UK, if you hit someone, there really is no way you’re getting away with it unless it simply doesn’t come to the attention of the police. If it does, prepare for some difficult questions in job interviews.
Most fight fans would not spend a dime to watch Van Gogh paint 'Sunflowers', but they would fill Yankee Stadium to see him cut off his ear. (Bill Nack)
Look, my point though was that this guy didn’t just “invade my personal space” or touch me with his finger, he slugged me on a street corner, in full view of a fifty or so witnesses. I bring it up because it’s a more extreme case that was resolved without police reports, lawsuits, federal cases, court dates, etc. Time is money, and so why bother? I know I’m not the only one here who’s let a little street scuffle or bar fight slide off because it’s not worth the trouble to drag it out in court.
And this isn’t even a guy who got slugged. I mean, he got touched with a finger (maybe). Had it been a fat drunk Russian who stumbled out of a bar, instead of one of the wealthiest athletes in the world, do you really think this guard would be making a big deal out of it? Or, any kind of deal at all?
"My God, kids today think that the laces are for tying up the gloves."
-- Fritzie Zivic
I don’t have any idea what kind of deal the guy is making. I just know he called the cops after this happened. I know he’s an employee of an operation that patrols Floyd’s gated community, so if he likes his job he should avoid fighting Floyd unless he really needs to. It also seems as if this was ongoing between the two of them.
The guy might be looking for $, but I think he made the right decision to call the cops. What would you have done, Jrok? – taking as true that Floyd regularly violated parking regulations, your job was to enforce those regulations, you needed the job, and Floyd got in your face and touched you. – If that’s true I think he made the right decision. And there’s no fucking way I’m giving Floyd any benefit of the doubt on this.
"Yes Gina, I am a Wise Cracker"
That is ignoring the fact too that this is FLOYD MAYWEATHER
and there might be more immediate and pressing reasons why having a dust-up might not seem like a good idea at the time….
Most fight fans would not spend a dime to watch Van Gogh paint 'Sunflowers', but they would fill Yankee Stadium to see him cut off his ear. (Bill Nack)
The other major problem with this train of thought is that it promotes the idea that who can hit hardest is somehow deemed to be in the 'right'.
Someone who cannot defend themselves is also entitled to protection from those with a propensity toward violence.
Most fight fans would not spend a dime to watch Van Gogh paint 'Sunflowers', but they would fill Yankee Stadium to see him cut off his ear. (Bill Nack)
2). A counter-poke/shove, followed maybe by a short fist fight.
Silly me, but it seems you are suggesting that a more reasonable course of action involves a security guard having a fist-fight with Floyd Mayweather? He’d have to be a bloody brave security guard…..
Most fight fans would not spend a dime to watch Van Gogh paint 'Sunflowers', but they would fill Yankee Stadium to see him cut off his ear. (Bill Nack)
I’m a security guard and I start talking to Floyd about moving his car “hey Floyd, move your car”. His response is “get the (Bleep) outta here!” and then he moves towards me, continuing to talk loudly with an angry tone. He gets close to me, close enough to hit me, and he reaches out and touches me with his finger, that shit’s assault. It’s offensive contact by a world class fighter, by an offensive little punk who is touching me to be intentionally offensive.
I don’t care about a civil suit. It’s illegal to touch people that don’t want to be touched, and it should be.
"Yes Gina, I am a Wise Cracker"
by lcollins1 on Nov 17, 2010 11:17 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Agreed here for sure
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No, aggrevated assault
means a weapon was used or there was some other circumstance that makes it aggrevated (e.g., in the commission of another felony)
Bad Left Hook - The SB Nation boxing blog
"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
you're wrong
I’ll just do TX because I know it well.
Agg. assault merely requires that a person commits an assault and the person “causes serious bodily injury to another”. A broken finger is enough to meet “serious bodily injury”. Floyd punches someone and he’ll get hit with agg. assault.
The “deadly weapon” requirement is merely one part of a multi-pronged approach to meeting agg. assault. And even if a “deadly weapon” was always required to meet the statutory definition (which it’s not), a hand or fist can meet that requirement….especially when it’s Floyd’s fist.
Your “commission of another felony” language would be one of many grounds to elevate the degree of the felony, it would not define the act as a felony.
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