Tomasz Adamek Wants Roy Jones Jr., Main Events Doesn't
by Scott Christ on Nov 17, 2010 6:28 PM EST
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Rick Reeno of BoxingScene.com reports that there have been discussions between Tomasz Adamek, his co-promoter Ziggy Rozalski, and Roy Jones Jr. for a potential March fight between the two.
Adamek (42-1, 27 KO) has a fight scheduled for December 9 against Vinny Maddalone (33-6, 24 KO), but it's a should-win fight for the Polish star. There was discussion at the WBC convention recently that centered on Adamek facing WBC heavyweight titlist Vitali Klitschko in March, but then a big, dramatic scene developed and it was decided that Klitschko had to face a mandatory in March, which will be the winner of the December 17 fight between Ray Austin and Odlanier Solis.
So that leaves Adamek, who likes to stay busy, without a first quarter opponent in 2011. Jones (54-7, 40 KO) has lost his last two fights and canceled an October bout with journeyman Danny Santiago. At this point, as great as Jones was, he really has no value left. He struggles to sell tickets even at home, and did a miserable crowd against Bernard Hopkins in Las Vegas this past April. Adamek sells pretty well in New Jersey no matter who he fights, and I'm willing to bet he'd still do very well in Chicago, too, where Jones has never fought, so there could be some novelty there. Or if they took the fight to Poland, you could expect a very good crowd, obviously. Adamek-Jones would also at least get an Integrated Sports PPV deal in the States, which means a little more money for everyone.
But the catch is that while Adamek and Rozalski reportedly want the fight, and Square Ring confirms that serious discussions have taken place, Kathy Duva at Main Events (Adamek's other co-promoter) isn't keen on the idea. Duva is holding firm on wanting Adamek to fight a Klitschko. While Vitali won't be available in March (he's tentatively set to face the Austin-Solis winner), Wladimir likely will be. Two days after Adamek-Maddalone, Klitschko faces Dereck Chisora in Germany.
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"All the time he's boxing, he's thinking. All the time he was thinking, I was hitting him." - Jack Dempsey
Zero interest, and I haven't forgotten.
Such were the days, still, hot, heavy, disappearing one by one into the past, as if falling into an abyss for ever open in the wake of the ship; and the ship, lonely under a wisp of smoke, held on her steadwast way black and smouldering in a luminous immensity, as if scorched by a flame flicked at her from a heaven without pity.
by Oli Goldstein on Nov 17, 2010 6:38 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Who would have thought, that one day Roy's fighting
Would have meant so little? :-( quite sad.
by Phill on Nov 17, 2010 6:43 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Very sad.
He’s as shot as the sheriff. Don’t care who he’s fighting.
Don't tell me I play bum notes - I KNOW!
by Randy Loathsome on Nov 17, 2010 6:49 PM EST reply actions
I see that yes has 5 votes.
I know that SC is like, a big shot around here, but his voice shouldn’t count five times as much as mine in polls. What a bunch of crap.
by The Boxer Rebellion on Nov 17, 2010 6:59 PM EST reply actions
I, in fact, voted no. That’s how bad of an idea this is.
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by Scott Christ on Nov 17, 2010 7:10 PM EST up reply actions
Time for Impeachment
TBR: Mr. Christ, you claim you did not vote yes in the "Do you want to see an Adamek-Jones fight?" poll on Bad Left Hook on November 17, 2010?
CHRIST: That’s right.
TBR: Do you recall a fight which took place between Roy Jones Jr. and Bernard Hopkins in April 2010?
CHRIST: I try to forget, but yes.
TBR: And do you recall posting what you refer to as a "Fight Preview" on BLH on April 1, 2010?
CHRIST: (stammering) I…I…I don’t know what you’re talking about.
TBR: Do you recall typing the following “analysis”?
I bet 99.5% of the boxing fan world picks Bernard Hopkins. I bet 99.9% of the boxing writers pick Bernard Hopkins. I bet 99.9993% of boxers would pick Bernard Hopkins for this fight. I’m going to be the idiot that doesn’t. I’m picking Roy Jones to bewilder Hopkins, to make him work harder than he can anymore, and to physically tire him into a spot where he just can’t get much done. I’m gonna be so wrong it’s not even funny. Jones UD-12
CHRIST: THAT WASN’T ME! It was Brick! I swear! Er…I wasn’t feeling good (voice cracks)
TBR: (raising voice) DO YOU REALLY EXPECT THIS JURY TO BELIEVE YOU VOTED NO IN THIS POLL?
CHRIST: (begins weeping)
JURY: (gasps)
TBR: (smugly) I have nothing further, your honor.
by The Boxer Rebellion on Nov 17, 2010 7:35 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
We use words like “preview,” “analysis” and “prediction.” We use these words to give people an overall scope of an upcoming fight. You use them as a punchline. I have neither the time, nor the inclination, to explain myself to a man (I think) who reads the very forecasting I provide, and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather you just said thank you, and went on your way. Otherwise I suggest you pick up a keyboard, and write a FanPost. Either way, I don’t give a damn what you think about my picks.
(Did you pick Roy Jones?)
I did the job—
(DID YOU PICK ROY JONES?)
YOU’RE GODDAMN RIGHT I DID!
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by Scott Christ on Nov 17, 2010 7:51 PM EST up reply actions
YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH
"My God, kids today think that the laces are for tying up the gloves."
-- Fritzie Zivic
YOU ALL MUST HAVE FORGOT
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by Scott Christ on Nov 17, 2010 8:01 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Now I am looking for that code red prediction of yours. I remember it being somewhat hilarious.
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-- Fritzie Zivic
Comments are gold
he still owes me $50 for making me buy that fight.
by The Boxer Rebellion on Nov 17, 2010 8:21 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I don’t give a DAMN what YOU THINK YOU’RE ENTITLED TO
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by Scott Christ on Nov 17, 2010 8:26 PM EST up reply actions
You're still a ways away from being Teddy Atlas
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No way, that would be awful
I’m fine with Jones having a farewell fight, but I’m not interested in anything else he has to offer.
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Brings up what would be a good farewell fight.
Jones-Ruiz II
by Polish Rifle on Nov 17, 2010 7:37 PM EST up reply actions
Roy Jones vs. Chad Van Sickle?
Still searching for an alive Dan Tucker.
Haye to fight winner.
by The Boxer Rebellion on Nov 17, 2010 8:27 PM EST via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
Someone like Manny Siaca Jr. or even Zsolt Erdei wouldn't be bad
A faded former champ who doesn’t have a great punch and who, even at his faded level, he should be able to box circles around. Like he did to Lacy or Echols.
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Muhammad Ali?
I keed, I keed….
Most fight fans would not spend a dime to watch Van Gogh paint 'Sunflowers', but they would fill Yankee Stadium to see him cut off his ear. (Bill Nack)
Very sad now
"My God, kids today think that the laces are for tying up the gloves."
-- Fritzie Zivic
Stop picking on Roy, you big bully!!
Most fight fans would not spend a dime to watch Van Gogh paint 'Sunflowers', but they would fill Yankee Stadium to see him cut off his ear. (Bill Nack)
I’d like to see Adamek beat up on Roy…what’s the problem? You guys are bringing up the BHop fight…Ok that was ugly, but Adamek would knock RJJ into the stratosphere. Call me a sadist, but THAT I’d like to see. If only then to see Max Kellerman cry on camera. After giving RJJ another round of TV fellatio, like he always does.
Adamek could stand to start fighting fellow contenders sometime if he wants to be taken seriously at heavyweight. He’s faced Arreola, and Jason Estrada is a fringe contender kind of, but other than that I’ve already seen him beat shot old men, and those guys were at least bigger than him.
Also Max Kellerman wouldn’t be calling that fight. Col. Bob Sheridan and Benny Ricardo would.
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by Scott Christ on Nov 18, 2010 12:54 AM EST up reply actions
Arreola and Golota are his two best wins at heavyweight, would you say?
Most fight fans would not spend a dime to watch Van Gogh paint 'Sunflowers', but they would fill Yankee Stadium to see him cut off his ear. (Bill Nack)
Arreola and Estrada. Golota wasn’t there to do anything.
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by Scott Christ on Nov 18, 2010 7:59 AM EST up reply actions
On paper at least, Golota is the better win, though? Or not?
Most fight fans would not spend a dime to watch Van Gogh paint 'Sunflowers', but they would fill Yankee Stadium to see him cut off his ear. (Bill Nack)
No. What has Golota ever done that garnered any paper besides hit Riddick Bowe in the dick and other meltdowns? The only reason that fight happened was it was a license to print money in Poland. Golota would lose to Estrada, too.
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by Scott Christ on Nov 18, 2010 7:37 PM EST up reply actions
I respectfully disagree.
Most of the Bowe fights showed that Golota was the better fighter, and were it not for two DQ’s, he’d have had 2 wins over Bowe. I know he deserved the DQ’s, but he proved himself as a very very good boxer in there, which is more than Estrada has ever done.
Most fight fans would not spend a dime to watch Van Gogh paint 'Sunflowers', but they would fill Yankee Stadium to see him cut off his ear. (Bill Nack)
Golota was not a better fighter than Riddick Bowe. No, no, no. At his best, Golota was a good technical fighter with a decent punch, but beat himself mentally almost every time he had a tough fight, because he couldn’t handle the pressure and got scared when he couldn’t hurt a guy or keep him down. Not all of what makes a fighter good is his technical ability. Technique is not even half of the picture. Patience, maturity, mental stability, grace under fire, that’s the stuff that makes champions, and that’s why Golota never was one.
Big Daddy was lazy (like Tim Witherspoon) and self-destructive (like Dokes, Tubbs, Tyson). He was insanely gifted but also very immature and that’s why his career ended up being disappointing as well. But if he had trained and fought at the level he was fighting in the early 90’s he would have crushed Golota in two or three rounds. He just happened to be even more mentally screwed up than Golota at the time, which is really saying something!
"My God, kids today think that the laces are for tying up the gloves."
-- Fritzie Zivic
Andrew Golota fought Riddick Bowe in 1996. He fought Tomasz Adamek in 2009. 13 years is a really long time. Between those fights, Golota did nothing notable besides quit, draw in a dreadful fight with Chris Byrd, and get that horrible arm injury. Golota was 41 years old when Adamek fought. Golota was nothing. Golota wasn’t even there to fight. Golota cashed his check. Big Andrzej went home after. Estrada actually challenged Adamek and gave him a decent fight, IMO the toughest test he’s had at heavyweight so far, because he made Adamek use his gas tank. If Tomasz Adamek beat Lennox Lewis next week — and I’m talking about Lennox Lewis, who actually did anything ever, unlike Golota whose career was wasted talent and mental breakdowns — I wouldn’t give him much credit for that either, because Lewis is a 45 year old man who hasn’t fought in seven years.
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by Scott Christ on Nov 19, 2010 8:32 PM EST up reply actions
Sadistical??
Used to think to myself, back when RJJ was in his prime, that someday this guy that is embarassing guys with behind the back punches, pitty pat flurries just to tease and humiliate his opponent…someday I would love to see HIM get embarrased. I no longer feel that way, he is embarrassing himself as it is. No need to see him get scrambled, and thats how I see him ending up. Adamek will hurt him…bad.
Holyfield vs RJJ in a steel cage.
Walkers allowed as weapons. Loser never allowed to fight again….winner either.
I do not like pickles.
Me neither.
Most fight fans would not spend a dime to watch Van Gogh paint 'Sunflowers', but they would fill Yankee Stadium to see him cut off his ear. (Bill Nack)
Please hang up the gloves Roy
It’s not like there’s nothing left for him, I’ve never heard much of his fight commentating but I’m told he’s pretty good.
He’s got personality and actually offers some decent insight from time to time. HBO has had him on twice this year and he used to be a regular, so I’d like to hope there’s a spot for him there.
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by Scott Christ on Nov 18, 2010 7:38 PM EST up reply actions
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