Which is the best trilogy of all time?
Boxing fans have had the great pleasure across the decades of seeing some amazing fights, with great fighters leaving it all in the ring. However, some guys do this more than once, and we even end up with a trilogy of great fights in some special cases. I was thinking earlier today about which of the best trilogies I have seen would get my vote, and just decided to put it to a more general audience.
I'll apologize now for a few of things:
1. I'm almost certain to forget at least one trilogy I should include, and this is something I regret in advance, if such a thing can even really happen.
2. I'm not counting Vasquez/Marquez IV as part of their saga. I'm just not.
3. I'm far too lazy to put up links to all of the fights included. I'm sure that most are on Youtube, and if not the others can be found elsewhere.
4. I'm not discounting fight series that went more than 3 fights, such as Robinson/LaMotta. They include trilogies, and therefore deserve consideration as fight series.
5. I'm not including Jones/Tarver. No way, no how, is Antonio Tarver getting on my list....
Right: to the poll. I suppose there are many ways to view this question, and you could answer based on cultural context, relevance to the sport, historical nostalgia, quality of fights/fighters, which one you personally just like more, which you'd be most likely to put on for a beer/boxing night, or even just which one you've watched the most. It's your call, because all of those things add up to making something 'great'.
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Great Fanpost
I would have loved to have gone for Holyfield v Bowe,Vasquez v Marquez or Gatti v Ward but in the end,for both quality and star power i had to go Ali v Frazier,even though the 2nd one was pretty boring.
Some great trilogies listed there though and it’s not easy for me to pick just one.
Also
some of the old classics i have only limted knowledge about.
I know Zale v Graziano is up there with the best though.
by Matt Mosley on Nov 18, 2010 12:43 PM EST up reply actions
yeah me too, shame :(
I hated every minute of training, but I said, ‘’Don’t quit. Suffer now and live the rest of your life as a champion.'’ (Bernard Hopkins)
Not me--heh heh. I actually remeber crying when Riocky got waxed in the first fight. It was an Italian thing
and I am half Italian. Sob
Don't pick a fight with an old man. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.
Great idea for a fanpost
And will look to refresh my memory/gain a view of some of the old ones later. Naturally the Vazquez-Marquez trilogy is the one I know best, and good point on not counting the fourth one.
I hated every minute of training, but I said, ‘’Don’t quit. Suffer now and live the rest of your life as a champion.'’ (Bernard Hopkins)
Vazquez-Marquez
It’s the only one where all three fights were FOTY quality.
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"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
Although Benvenuti-Griffith should probably be on the poll
Bad Left Hook - The SB Nation boxing blog
"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
Good one
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by Randy Loathsome on Nov 18, 2010 7:12 PM EST up reply actions
Yup.
I decided on Griffith-Paret instead, but at that point I didn’t realise I could have more than 10 options, and forgot to add the Benvenuti-Griffith one when I did realise I could basically do as I pleased.
Most fight fans would not spend a dime to watch Van Gogh paint 'Sunflowers', but they would fill Yankee Stadium to see him cut off his ear. (Bill Nack)
I would guess that Benvenuti's the best Italian boxer of all time
Not counting the many Italians who were born or fought in the US, of course! Those Griffiths fight take me back. Great time in the 60s for the ‘middle’ weight divisions, Welter to Light-Heavy. Griffiths, Tiger, Benvenuti, Foster, et al.
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by Randy Loathsome on Nov 20, 2010 8:20 PM EST up reply actions
Him or Diollo Loi
Bad Left Hook - The SB Nation boxing blog
"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
*Duilio
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"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
Yes
but i think it’s fair to say that Ali v Frazier was part of a much deeper and higher quality heavyweight division than was the super bantamweight division of Vasquez v Marquez.
5 or 6 of those on the list (inc the 2 mentioned) rate very closely together at the top though,imo.
RE;My vote for Ali v Frazier.I think 1 +3 were so good that they make up a lot for 2 being mediocre.
I mean "The Fight of the Century and “The Thrilla In Manilla” are two of the best fights ever,at any weight,imo.
I could not agree more.
There are great trilogies….and then there is the greatest.
Two was a place holder…but One and Three was as greeat and as meaningful as any two fights in boxing history. Lewis and Schmeling included.
Here's Hoping
Sergio Martinez wins this weekend and next year we get another trilogy to add to the list.
It could still happen
Williams just got caught with the best punch of the year.Can happen to anyone.
It’s one a piece now,though i certainly wouldn’t be picking Paul in the rubber match.
He may be done. That KO reminded me of Toney-Nunn and Nunn, though still very good, was never quite
the same.
Don't pick a fight with an old man. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.
It was
about as devastating a KO as i have seen and any mention of a rubber match has surely got to be looked at in no less than a year when Williams has had chance to rebuild.
I think he will go back down to 154,maybe even 147 now though where they don’t hit as hard.
For the record:
I went with Barrera-Morales. Man those guys could fight.
Most fight fans would not spend a dime to watch Van Gogh paint 'Sunflowers', but they would fill Yankee Stadium to see him cut off his ear. (Bill Nack)
Vazquez-Marquez. It was like the Gatti-Ward and Morales-Barrera trilogies put into a blender together.
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
That's some statement.
I do think I’m swayed a bit by the fact I love MAB, but not as much as you are swayed by the fact that you have an enormous man-cruch on Izzy… :P
Most fight fans would not spend a dime to watch Van Gogh paint 'Sunflowers', but they would fill Yankee Stadium to see him cut off his ear. (Bill Nack)
??
you have an enormous man-cruch on Izzy
Hope it’s consensual
Must erase mental picture.
"Anytime you go thirty rounds with a guy, try to kill each other, and have the utmost respect for each other, no one understands that, but guys who have been to war understand it." - Micky Ward on Arturo Gatti.
Before I had Israel Vazquez, I had Erik Morales.
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
by Scott Christ on Nov 19, 2010 8:48 PM EST up reply actions
We all prefer the current girlfriend, Scott.
She’s the one giving us sex NOW, right?
The ex is a case of “what have you done for me lately”…
Most fight fans would not spend a dime to watch Van Gogh paint 'Sunflowers', but they would fill Yankee Stadium to see him cut off his ear. (Bill Nack)
Lately the ex got fat and fought Willie Limond on pay-per-view.
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
by Scott Christ on Nov 20, 2010 3:27 AM EST up reply actions
ha!!
Excellent comeback….
Most fight fans would not spend a dime to watch Van Gogh paint 'Sunflowers', but they would fill Yankee Stadium to see him cut off his ear. (Bill Nack)
Not sure I understand this?
Don't pick a fight with an old man. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.
Much of what can be written about South African boxing can be found in the drama that unfolded in the four great fights between Brian Mitchell and the late Jacob "Dancing Shoes" Morake
Morake and Mitchell had fought a total of 34 rounds, but this time Mitchell stopped the game Morake in the twelfth and final round. Morake had taken a significant amount of punishment in the fiercely contested fight. A dehydrated Morake collapsed in the 12th round and never regained consciousness. He was hospitalized and died the following day of head injuries. Some say that in the final rounds, he clearly was unable to defend himself, but I have never been able to corroborate this though Gavin Evans makes reference to the bout in his compelling book Dancing Shoes Is Dead: A Tale of Fighting Men in South Africa (Black Swan, 2003). Evans believes Morake’s courage, his trainer’s desperate hope, and what he terms the inaction of the referee all contributed to the tragic ending. After deep self-reflection, an emotionally devastated Mitchell returned to the ring in March 1986, knocking out Julio Ruiz in six rounds at Sun City.
In the end, he and the classy Mitchell had a great rivalry going, and according to South African boxing lore (and in a bizarre twist of fate), Morake stated to friends before his fateful fight with Mitchell that he’d rather die than lose.
Don't pick a fight with an old man. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.
Dennis Andries and Jeff Harding 1,2 & 3 were mega brutal
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by Randy Loathsome on Nov 19, 2010 4:04 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
MEGA!!
Great call ! Toe to toe wars. Incredible fights!
"Anytime you go thirty rounds with a guy, try to kill each other, and have the utmost respect for each other, no one understands that, but guys who have been to war understand it." - Micky Ward on Arturo Gatti.
Thought you'd like that! Here's another
Jeff Fenech versus the Professor.
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by Randy Loathsome on Nov 19, 2010 5:13 AM EST up reply actions
Are these ones that I've missed?
ie- are you calling them really good, or nominating them as possibilities for ‘greatest’?
I haven’t seen any of the ones you referto, so I’m curious.
Most fight fans would not spend a dime to watch Van Gogh paint 'Sunflowers', but they would fill Yankee Stadium to see him cut off his ear. (Bill Nack)
Beg, steal or borrow, whatever it takes Chaos! You need to see the Harding-Andries wars,Chaos
http://www.eastsideboxing.com/news.php?p=12301&more=1
Jeff Harding-Dennis Andries belongs in any ‘greatest trilogy’ discussion IMO.
"Anytime you go thirty rounds with a guy, try to kill each other, and have the utmost respect for each other, no one understands that, but guys who have been to war understand it." - Micky Ward on Arturo Gatti.
I’ll third this — I watched the fights for the first time last year and was shocked I’d never heard more about them. Awesome fights, and definitely belong in the discussion.
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
by Scott Christ on Nov 19, 2010 8:37 PM EST up reply actions
Me and my Younger Bro
The bastards up 2 – 1 in our once a decade Xmas title fights. I’ve gotta work on slipping the jab . Hes 6 ft 4 and thinks hes frigging Larry Holmes .
"I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me. " Hunter S Thompson.
LOL!! I'm in your corner for the next one mate!
We’ll unwrap some big left hook counters for Xmas!
"Anytime you go thirty rounds with a guy, try to kill each other, and have the utmost respect for each other, no one understands that, but guys who have been to war understand it." - Micky Ward on Arturo Gatti.
hmmm and you say he's younger too ?
Time is not on your side mate !!! Better give him what’s coming before you get too old !!! I’ve knocked out all 3 of my younger brothers and the youngest and me don’t speak.
It's not a matter of "IF" the North will break you.It's a matter of "WHEN" the North will break you.For up here every year counts as two on the outside.
by Ghostman (Son of the Wolf) on Nov 20, 2010 5:55 PM EST up reply actions
Patterson - Johansson
"I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me. " Hunter S Thompson.
Good choice
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by Randy Loathsome on Nov 19, 2010 7:56 PM EST up reply actions
Upsets , savage kayos and redemption
see Floyd v Ingo .
"I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me. " Hunter S Thompson.
Do you mean bets as in most signifigant historically or the most enjoyed by yourself ?
For me it’s Ward vs Gatti.
It's not a matter of "IF" the North will break you.It's a matter of "WHEN" the North will break you.For up here every year counts as two on the outside.
by Ghostman (Son of the Wolf) on Nov 20, 2010 5:52 PM EST reply actions
Most enjoyed by myself. Historically, it rates pretty high as well.
Don't pick a fight with an old man. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.
I made clear in the opening post that the choice is completely yours.
Use your discretion, and make your choice. :) :)
Most fight fans would not spend a dime to watch Van Gogh paint 'Sunflowers', but they would fill Yankee Stadium to see him cut off his ear. (Bill Nack)
Like Ghostman above
I enjoyed Ward-Gatti personally the most, and I’m voting that way, because they are—well, what they are, really, and with the release of the Ward movie may/will have a type of historical importance, because I think it will spark a much-needed up-tick in interest in the sport. Ali was the sport, but it was one of the most popular sports in the U.S. at the time—with the movie, Mickey’s a crossover star when the numbers are down.
There is no safety in numbers, or in anything else--James Thurber, 1939
"Ali-Frazier"
series gets my vote….. Though “Bowe-Holy” is right there, too…..
MR.BILL
Bill Petersen
MR.BILL
Raleigh, N.C.
Who voted for Graziano/Zale?
I’m just curious….
Most fight fans would not spend a dime to watch Van Gogh paint 'Sunflowers', but they would fill Yankee Stadium to see him cut off his ear. (Bill Nack)
I wouldn't be surprised.
I thought it was the only one with only one vote, but there is one other; Robinson/LaMotta
It’s an interesting pick.
Most fight fans would not spend a dime to watch Van Gogh paint 'Sunflowers', but they would fill Yankee Stadium to see him cut off his ear. (Bill Nack)
Trilogy of trilogies
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by Randy Loathsome on Nov 21, 2010 5:18 PM EST up reply actions
Chaos.......
“Zale-Graziano” is great for the late 40s, but many posters were NOT hatched for that series, so it will get pushed back… Nevertheless, it too, was very awesome for its night / nights… TRUTH!
MR.BILL
Bill Petersen
MR.BILL
Raleigh, N.C.
I was, but Iliked Ingo-Patterson better.
And Dennis Andries-Jeff Harding the best.
Don't pick a fight with an old man. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.
Yep, fights 1 & 3 were dramatic....
Fight 2 was historic and without them Patterson’s career as Champ would have been mundane and deadly dull – except for his role as two-time victim of a Liston mauling, that is!
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by Randy Loathsome on Nov 22, 2010 5:16 AM EST up reply actions
le cool avatar, Randy
Bullit, non?
"Anytime you go thirty rounds with a guy, try to kill each other, and have the utmost respect for each other, no one understands that, but guys who have been to war understand it." - Micky Ward on Arturo Gatti.
Oui, c'est ca.
Coolest guy, coolest film. Still.
Shit! I’m older now than he was when he died. Tempus fugit.
Merci.
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by Randy Loathsome on Nov 23, 2010 7:51 AM EST up reply actions
Coolest guy, coolest film.
I’d argue, but how?
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
by Scott Christ on Nov 23, 2010 9:20 AM EST up reply actions
Is that a non-sequiteur?
;)
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by Randy Loathsome on Nov 23, 2010 10:57 AM EST up reply actions
Tell me about yours, Goatie. That's a hell of an eye.
Don't tell me I play bum notes - I KNOW!
by Randy Loathsome on Nov 23, 2010 8:00 AM EST up reply actions
Randy, that's Tyrone
aka ‘The Big Kahuna’ – my Alaskan mate. Strong, silent type. The other morning I found him with a possum, the size of a small child. Using it as a pillow – nice.
"Anytime you go thirty rounds with a guy, try to kill each other, and have the utmost respect for each other, no one understands that, but guys who have been to war understand it." - Micky Ward on Arturo Gatti.
Oh, he could have been using it some other way.
I don't take personal insults well. My wires are such so that when it happens, i'm not going to put on head gear, lace up the gloves and put in the mouthpiece. I'm going to drop the gloves and just let the adrenaline take off.
hahaha!!
Yeah , he’s a lover, not a fighter.
"Anytime you go thirty rounds with a guy, try to kill each other, and have the utmost respect for each other, no one understands that, but guys who have been to war understand it." - Micky Ward on Arturo Gatti.
Cute!
Don't tell me I play bum notes - I KNOW!
by Randy Loathsome on Nov 24, 2010 3:27 PM EST up reply actions
Resourceful.
He ate half of it first.
"Anytime you go thirty rounds with a guy, try to kill each other, and have the utmost respect for each other, no one understands that, but guys who have been to war understand it." - Micky Ward on Arturo Gatti.
Wot, he'd lost his appetite?
Don't tell me I play bum notes - I KNOW!
by Randy Loathsome on Nov 25, 2010 5:24 AM EST up reply actions
:) Nah, just wanted to impress Kaya; his foxy lady.
"Anytime you go thirty rounds with a guy, try to kill each other, and have the utmost respect for each other, no one understands that, but guys who have been to war understand it." - Micky Ward on Arturo Gatti.
Liston mugging is more like it
I don't take personal insults well. My wires are such so that when it happens, i'm not going to put on head gear, lace up the gloves and put in the mouthpiece. I'm going to drop the gloves and just let the adrenaline take off.
Un-armed robbery with intent
Don't tell me I play bum notes - I KNOW!
by Randy Loathsome on Nov 23, 2010 10:58 AM EST up reply actions
And who can ever forget the leg twitching? That was very scary.
I don't take personal insults well. My wires are such so that when it happens, i'm not going to put on head gear, lace up the gloves and put in the mouthpiece. I'm going to drop the gloves and just let the adrenaline take off.
Sure was.
Still, nothing broken!
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by Randy Loathsome on Nov 23, 2010 10:57 AM EST up reply actions
But both later contracted some form of dementia. That was a sad thing--the way they went out.
I don't take personal insults well. My wires are such so that when it happens, i'm not going to put on head gear, lace up the gloves and put in the mouthpiece. I'm going to drop the gloves and just let the adrenaline take off.
Seriously, true, of course.
That’s always been my bete noir of boxing – I watch these young men turned into veg. That’s the price of an education.
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by Randy Loathsome on Nov 24, 2010 4:13 PM EST up reply actions
Does anyone know
how the first 3 fights for Bobby Chacon and Bazooka Limon went?
I’ve only seen the fourth fight, which was great! (FOTY)
However, I’ve never had an opportunity to check out their first 3.
Were they any/as good?
"That wasn't just winning. I mean, that was just demolishment."
One was the greatest fight I have ever seen. His fights with Boza were great as well
I don't take personal insults well. My wires are such so that when it happens, i'm not going to put on head gear, lace up the gloves and put in the mouthpiece. I'm going to drop the gloves and just let the adrenaline take off.

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