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Saul Alvarez wants Manny Pacquiao, just not quite yet | Boxing Scene

No huge surprises here, but rising Mexican star Saul Alvarez says he's not afraid of Manny Pacquaio, and that he thinks he'll be able to beat Pacquaio in about a year, after taking three or four more fights. Alvarez is on the fast track to stardom, as the 20-year old is already well known in Mexico and created considerable buzz in the U.S. in his last two fights. He's taking a small step up against Lovemore N'Dou in a few weeks on HBO Latino, but don't be too shocked if his promoter, Golden Boy, starts to push a fight between him and Shane Mosley in the near future. While Mosley is a Golden Boy partner, he still thinks he has more left in the tank than he actually does, and I'm sure Oscar de la Hoya is savoring the opportunity to have Alvarez beat a star to make a star.

Holyfield-Williams Cancelled | ESPN

Well that's a shocker. After being postponed twice, Evander Holyfield's fight against ironbeard Sherman Williams has been cancelled. This is Holyfield's third fight in a row that has been cancelled after being announced (although his fight against Franz Botha eventually did happen about six months after it was supposed to).  Holyfield is rumored to be looking at a fight against Brian Nielsen in the winter. In other Holyfield news, he's helping out Olympic silver medalist Zhang Zhilei. While the Chinese government had indicated that they would let Zhilei and a couple other medalists go pro after Beijing, they're still all amateurs at this point. 

Lee to rematch Vera on Friday Night FIghts | Dan Rafael's Twitter

Irish boxer Andy Lee is set to rematch Brian (Bryan?) Vera on February 4 on ESPN2. Lee, currently Emmanuel Steward's only notable prospect, was on the verge of a title shot when he wore out and got knocked out by Vera nearly three years ago. Since then, he's rattled off nine straight wins, although the best of those is probably against former European champ Affif Belghecham. This may be a shot at redemption, and while Lee is perfectly good at fighting like a Steward fighter, we'll have to see if he's any less stiff now. He literally looks like the Fighting Irish mascot in there.

Kimbo Slice's Boxing Debut Postponed Until 2011 | Bloody Elbow

Gary Shaw says Kimbo Slice can't seem to focus on preparing for his Boxing career. Not that it really matters. With that beard of his (not the literal one, but the one that got cracked by Seth Petruzelli), he's pretty damn unlikely to actually make it far as a heavyweight in boxing. While it might not be THE most important attribute in a boxer, very few fighters can make it to the top levels of the sport with a chin like his, and those who can generally are so excellent in other areas that they can offset the deficiency.

Artest still considering boxing - LA Daily News

I reported this about a year and a half ago, but it seems that NBA basketball player Ron Artest is still dead serious about trying a boxing career after his basketball career is over. Artest, who stands at 6'7" and 260 pounds of muscle, says he's been training like a boxer for the last three years, and he wants to jump into the deep end as soon as he's ready. Of course, in the same article, Artest says he also wants to try out for the NFL, so who knows how serious this really is. The former all-star and defensive player of the year is probably most famous to outsiders for attacking a fan in the stands, leading to a riot, several years ago.

Bellew targets Cleverly | ESPNSTAR.com

It looks like Britains top two light heavyweights may be headed on a collision course. Nathan Cleverly and Tony Bellew are both basically prospects at this point, but the fight might make sense for everyone involved. Cleverly is the mandatory to face German titlist Juergen Braehmer, but Braehmer's handlers seem to be in no rush to let their man in the ring with Cleverly, who fights more and more like Paul Williams every time he steps between the ropes (warts and all). Bellew is the current Commonwealth titlist, although he struggled his last time out against relatively unknown Bob Ajisafe.

David Lemieux-Ishe Smith Won't Happen on December 3 | Boxing Scene

David Lemieux will be fighting in Montreal in less than a month. His rumored opponent had been Ishe Smith, who would have been a solid test, but Smith turned down the fight as he said it was too short of notice. At this point, expect the fight to be against someone a few steps down from Smith. Lemieux is also scheduled to take a title eliminator against Marco Antonio Rubio next year, although Lemieux says he's happy to take on the Martinez-Williams winner right now, if that's what they want.

B.J Flores wants a Danny Green rematch | Fight News

Yeah, and I want a million dollar escrow account and a date with Beyonce Knowles. He might have a better argument if he didn't very distinctly lose.

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Cleverley

will beat the prevously overrated Bellew with ease.I’m certain of that.
It would be easier than the McIntosh fight,imo

by Matt Mosley on Nov 20, 2010 5:28 AM EST reply actions  

Plus

Cleverley is past prospect stage now.Bellew is totally unproven,especially after that ;ast terrible performance..

by Matt Mosley on Nov 20, 2010 11:43 AM EST up reply actions  

I always like when Gary Shaw compares Kimbo Slice to Manny Pacquiao and Mike Tyson because “when he enters a room he owns it” and all that nonsense. The difference is the rooms Pacquiao and Tyson entered and owned weren’t always filled with $kala and the whores from Bang Bus.

Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."

by Scott Christ on Nov 20, 2010 5:32 AM EST reply actions  

Kimbo

is a poor excuse of a fighter.
He was no good at MMA and now he’s gonna show us how bad he is at boxing.

by Matt Mosley on Nov 20, 2010 5:42 AM EST reply actions  

Kimbo = slow,crude and predictable,imo.
Not exactly ideal traits to have when getting in a boxing ring.

by Matt Mosley on Nov 20, 2010 5:43 AM EST reply actions  

I like Kimbo Slice. I’ve said that before. He seems like a nice guy and I think Kimbo fully understands what he is. He does the best he can, but dude is 36 years old with minimal training and honestly I don’t think he has any serious desire to be involved in professional fighting anymore. It’s not like he’s going to be short on offers to be in silly B-movies, TV shows, etc. He’s got six kids so I’m sure he’ll take some more fights (how he hasn’t fought MMA in Japan yet is beyond me), but I don’t think he’s gunning to be a world champion of anything.

To me Shaw sounds beyond desperate with Kimbo, and the sad thing is he might truly believe he’s got a legitimate heavyweight boxer on his hands. I would love to have seen what would have become of Kimbo if he had started training seriously at 18. He’s got some athleticism, has some raw power (though it’s remarkably overrated thanks to knocking out fat guys in parking lots), and I think he even has the right stuff mentally. He likely never would have been great, but I suspect he could’ve made some good money over the years. As it is, he’s a novelty.

Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."

by Scott Christ on Nov 20, 2010 5:50 AM EST up reply actions  

I like Kimbo Slice

As a person,me too.
But he can’t fight.

by Matt Mosley on Nov 20, 2010 5:59 AM EST up reply actions  

Not professionally anyway.
As you mentioned,he’s a parking lot brawler who gets found out quickly against the pros.
As you also say,it’s all about the money.He’s relatively well known (through the internet)so lets sell him is all Shaw is thinking,imo.

by Matt Mosley on Nov 20, 2010 6:03 AM EST up reply actions  

and I think he even has the right stuff mentally.

I’ve seen about 3 of his MMA fights and to me that’s one of his major weakness(along with the others i mentioned):He doesn’t have it there mentally.
Those back street bum fights meant nothing really,when compared to pro fighting.

by Matt Mosley on Nov 20, 2010 6:06 AM EST up reply actions  

I don’t think he’s hurting mentally in the ring. I think his stamina is positively atrocious and he can’t do anything after about 90 seconds.

Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."

by Scott Christ on Nov 20, 2010 6:08 AM EST up reply actions  

Could be

I just got so bored with him on The Ultimate Fighter that i lost interest.
He did seem a bit better against Houston Alexander in his next fight and to be fair,his boxing is supposedly his strength so maybe he wasn’t suited to MMA.
He is old now though so i won’t be expecting much.

by Matt Mosley on Nov 20, 2010 6:18 AM EST up reply actions  

Artest has some boxing background. His dad was a golden gloves winner. He is also kinda off so take whatever he says with a grain of salt.

"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."

by Zocalo on Nov 20, 2010 10:49 AM EST reply actions  

Artest needs to have aconversation with Kendall Gill before he stept into the ring.

Don't pick a fight with an old man. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.

by Kid Blast on Nov 20, 2010 11:10 AM EST reply actions  

As the early morning crew who watched knows, Flores did better than the scorecards implied. However, he also clearly lost. I can’t see it ever going any other way… Danny Green actually outboxed BJ in most rounds.

"My God, kids today think that the laces are for tying up the gloves."
-- Fritzie Zivic

by jrok on Nov 20, 2010 9:46 PM EST reply actions  

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