Bad Left Hook Fight Preview: Carl Froch v. Arthur Abraham
Super Middleweights, 12 Rounds
Carl Froch v. Arthur Abraham
TV: Polsat Sport (Poland), 2pm EST ... ARD (Germany), Primetime (UK), Sport 1 (Hungary), 5:15pm EST ... Showtime (USA, tape delay), 9pm EST
Note: Bad Left Hook will be covering this fight LIVE in the afternoon, possibly with the 2pm Polsat broadcast (which includes full undercard coverage), or at least around 5pm EST for the main event. The fight will not be aired in the U.S. until 9pm on Showtime, and that will be on tape delay. We'll have results posted on the site in the afternoon, but they will be behind a link, so you won't be spoiled simply by visiting the front page. Note that almost all boxing sites will have results posted early.
Both Carl Froch and Arthur Abraham rose to prominence off of U.S. soil, like most of the top fighters in the short history of the super middleweight division. Froch turned pro in 2002, and a year later won the English title, following that up with the Commonwealth and British titles in 2004. He kept winning and defending his belts, and along the way became most-known for trash talking division ruler Joe Calzaghe, the lineal champion at 168 who eventually went up to 175 and claimed that championship, too. In December 2008, a month after what turned out to be Calzaghe's final fight, Froch took on Jean Pascal in Nottingham, winning a great 12-round fight and claiming the vacant WBC belt, which Calzaghe had given up.
After that, Froch headed to the States, defending his belt in Connecticut against former undisputed middleweight champion Jermain Taylor. Though Taylor outboxed Froch early and even floored him in the third round, "The Cobra" came on strong in the end, proving to have more stamina and willpower than Taylor. In a furious 12th round assault, Froch decked Taylor, and then immediately went on the attack when Jermain made it back to his feet. Referee Mike Ortega had no choice but to step in with just 14 seconds remaining in the fight. Had Taylor survived on his feet, he would have won a split decision. If you've never seen it (or just want to watch it again), here's the exhausted Froch closing the show on Taylor in Connecticut:
Then came the Super Six. Froch met Andre Dirrell in Nottingham, and fighting back at home he engaged in an ugly, sloppy fight where Froch fouled a ton and Dirrell ran a lot. Bad Left Hook scored it for Dirrell, and many did the same. But the official judges matter the most, of course, and Froch left with a controversial split decision victory. In April of this year, Froch was defeated by Mikkel Kessler in a back-and-forth brawl that showed both men at their best. Kessler won a narrow decision, reclaiming the WBC belt he'd lost in 2007 to Calzaghe.
Abraham went pro in 2003, starting as a middleweight. He started winning minor trinkets in 2004, and the Armenian-born Abraham, fighting exclusively in Germany, scored a notable win over Howard Eastman in July 2005. Five months later, he claimed the vacant IBF middleweight title with a fifth round knockout of Kingsley Ikeke. He defended successfully against Shannan Taylor and Kofi Jantuah, before facing Edison Miranda in September 2006. In a highly controversial fight, Abraham survived a broken jaw to win a 12-round decision. Successful defenses against Sebastian Demers, Khoren Gevor, Wayne Elcock, and Elvin Ayala followed, and then Abraham made his U.S. debut by knocking out Miranda in four rounds in Florida. Abraham held on to his belt for three more defenses against Raul Marquez, Lajuan Simon and Mahir Oral before moving up in weight to enter the Super Six.
In the first stage of the tournament, Abraham had home court against Jermain Taylor. In the 12th round of what was a pretty routine, by-the-books performance from both men, Abraham suddenly shot a vicious right hand between Taylor's gloves and knocked the former middleweight champ out -- Taylor hasn't fought since. In March of this year, Abraham went to Detroit and lost for the first time as a pro, getting out-boxed by Andre Dirrell before a late charge from "King Arthur" put the result in doubt. And then, with Dirrell having slipped on the canvas, Abraham knocked him out with a right hand foul, and was disqualified. Dirrell also hasn't fought since, and pulled out of the tournament a couple of months ago.
This Saturday, Froch and Abraham meet in Helsinki. After much wrangling over where the fight would be held -- Froch refused to go to Germany, Abraham refused to go to Nottingham -- the Hartwall Arena was agreed upon as a neutral site. They also postponed the bout at one point, which seemed to be as much politicking as anything with the future of the tournament in doubt. As it stands now, both Froch and Abraham will be in the semifinals of the tournament barring injury. And they could meet in a rematch after this.
Grading the Fighters
| FROCH | ABRAHAM | |
| B | Punching Power | A- |
| B- |
Hand Speed | C- |
| C+ | Defense | B+ |
| A | Punch Resistance |
A |
| A | Heart | B+ |
Both have good power, but Abraham has that rare one-punch, concussive power in his right hand, and probably an underrated left at this point, too. Ask Jermain Taylor about the right, and Khoren Gevor about the left:
Abraham doesn't throw enough for most peoples' tastes, and neutralizes what hand speed he does have with his high guard defense. Abraham is very prone to lulls in action, and is a notorious slow starter. Froch is no speed merchant, but he can get his shots off in combination pretty well, and he'll have to to penetrate Abraham's guard. That hands down swagger of Froch's could haunt him in this fight -- defensively, he's lacking, and he gets hit plenty. Both have plenty of heart; I tick Abraham down a bit because of some of his habits in the ring, which cropped up big time in the Dirrell fight. We'll talk more about that in the prediction section below.
Star Power
Relevance: 
Two top ten fighters in one of the hottest divisions in boxing, and a tournament bout in the Super Six at that. The Super Six has lost a lot of steam and isn't going to wind up being the great thing for boxing it could have been, but remember this. Almost every time out, the fights in the tournament are interesting or noteworthy, the lone exception being Andre Ward's predictable domination of Allan Green.
Good Fight Potential: 
This has really good potential to be a good fight, but not can't miss potential, if you ask me. Abraham's fights are rarely all that exciting, as he plays hide-and-seek and looks to launch his power shots when he finds the time, and doesn't often get caught up in exchanges. And Froch is willing to make a fight as ugly as he needs to, which can lead to a lot of holding and fouling. I know many think this has explosive potential, but I think it probably has just as much potential to be a sloppy half-brawl. Being the optimist that I am, I keep it high-end on the potential and choose to be glass mostly full here.
Overall Pre-Fight Score: 
It's a very good fight. Make sure you tune in on Saturday, either live or on the Showtime tape delay or on your DVR or whatever.
Prediction
Let's get right to that Abraham's habits bit: Abraham complains profusely about body shots, apparently feeling that anything under his chest should be ruled a low blow. He's been catered to in Germany with this, but found himself ignored in Detroit against Dirrell. Don't think Froch hasn't noticed how much Abraham hates being hit to the body. Froch is a smarter fighter than he gets credit for sometimes. He'll war when he needs to, but he's arguably strongest on the mental side of things. He can get under his opponent's skin, and Abraham may be the type of guy he can really bother. If Froch targets the body -- or even strays a little low early -- and Abraham doesn't have his complaints heard by the referee, Froch will go there all day long.
It's a very intriguing style matchup because really, I don't think either guy is particularly better than his opponent, but they're entirely different fighters. Abraham's shell defense is maddening for most who face him, but Froch loves to let loose looping shots, and might be just the type of guy to get around Abraham's guard. At the same time, Abraham may well find Froch easy pickings for his right hand bombs. If Froch gets overly aggressive trying to score, Abraham could find an opening with relative ease and turn the lights out on Carl's party.
Abraham has faced aggressive fighters before, notably Edison Miranda. The Miranda that broke Abraham's jaw in 2006 was a lot better than the Miranda that Abraham starched in 2008, and closer to what Froch can do. But what Edison does lack in basically everything else, he's always at least kind of made up for with some nasty, brutal KO power. Froch does not have that sort of power; not the 2006 Miranda, whose spirit hadn't yet been broken by Kelly Pavlik, and not the 2008 Miranda, who had been beaten up and exposed as a very limited fighter. Froch also tends to empty his tank and wind up fighting on fumes in the late rounds. Abraham never presses himself. I'm reminded of a line in Goodfellas when I think of Abraham: "Paulie may have moved slow, but it was only because Paulie didn't have to move for anybody." Abraham will wait, and wait, and wait, and strike when he feels comfortable. He's never tried to impress anyone with his workrate, but he does try to impose his will.
To date, only two fighters have ever given Abraham any serious trouble: Miranda in 2006, and Dirrell in March. I suppose if you mashed those two fighters together, you could argue that Carl Froch is a decent end result of that process. Froch is a fairly athletic fighter, has pretty good power, and is a lot more dynamic than Abraham. But almost everyone is more dynamic than Abraham. King Arthur has made a hell of a career out of being really good at two things: knocking guys out with a right hand and making sure he doesn't get hit flush very often.
It's a really tough fight to pick. Some are very comfortable picking Abraham and his power, some feel Froch is an absolute stylistic nightmare for him. I'm not convinced about either. I've put myself in the position where I think Froch is the right guy to crumble Abraham's wall with those wide shots, but more often when I try to envision the fight in my mind this week, I'm seeing a tired Froch having not made enough headway in breaking down his opponent getting blasted with one of those big shots from a still-strong Abraham. It won't be a pretty fight, but it should be a pretty entertaining affair. Abraham TKO-11
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Flights, tickets and hotels booked....
Helsinki, here I come!!
(BTW- I also have Abraham TKO-11)
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Hell, I offered!!
You could quite easily have been on that plane… ;)
Most fight fans would not spend a dime to watch Van Gogh paint 'Sunflowers', but they would fill Yankee Stadium to see him cut off his ear. (Bill Nack)
It's a real hard fight to pick
But I don’t think Froch’s defence will be good enough. I see Froch building up an early lead but getting stopped in the 10th. He has it in him to beat him, but his fighting heart will see him, as you say, empty the tank, while A.A. is still fresh.
Froch UD
Froch’s angles and looping punches will be able to get around Abraham’s turtle shell enough to score points in the early rounds. Froch will also have the higher workrate through the early rounds. By the time round 8 rolls around, Abraham will need a knockout, and I don’t think he’ll get it – Froch probably has the best chin of any fighter Abraham has faced (and it’s not like Elvin Ayala, who Lemieux knocked out in one, didn’t make it to round 12 with Abraham).
I guess I’m saying I see it a lot like Sweet science, only I don’t think Abraham gets the stoppage and Froch pulls off a points victory.
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To add more to it
Abraham struggled with LaJuan Simon, who’s sort of like Froch-ultra lite.
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"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
Froch struggled with Jermain Taylor, and Abraham outboxed him from round 1 onwards....
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devil's advocate
If Jermain were a 6 on the shot scale before Froch, he was an 8 after.
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by Scott Christ on Nov 23, 2010 11:13 AM EST up reply actions
Shootin' down the devil:
Is your argument that Froch can outbox Arthur Abraham?
Cos to me, the Abraham that outboxed Taylor wouldn’t just outbox Froch, he’d have made him look positively silly, pretty much like Taylor did. Unlike Taylor, however, Abraham has both the chin to withstand Froch if he comes at him like he did Taylor, and the KO power to finish Froch when he gets wild like he did against Taylor…..
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Taylor throws his punches too straight
And that’s part of the problem. What might normally be considered a liability is actually an advantage against Abraham. And Abraham has proven over and over again he can be outworked for enough rounds that you only need to outbox him for a few rounds.
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Just so I know, Brick my old pal, what's your prediction for the fight?
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Sorry, just saw it: Froch by decision.
We’ll just have to see :)
Most fight fans would not spend a dime to watch Van Gogh paint 'Sunflowers', but they would fill Yankee Stadium to see him cut off his ear. (Bill Nack)
But Jermain Taylor fights nothing like Abraham
Simon fights a fair amount like Froch, only shorter, less powerful, less reach and less awkward
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"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
Maybe not, but Abraham out-sped, out-punched and out-manoeuvred Taylor.
Taylor out-sped and out-manoeuvred Froch, even if he didn’t out-punch him.
Regardless of styles, if Boxer A has better movement and speed than Boxer B, and the same can be said of comparisons between Boxer B and Boxer C, I’m betting on Boxer A’s ability to move better and hit faster than Boxer C.
Then throw Boxer C’s propensity for "getting wild and getting hit", and Boxer A’s "knockout power and accuracy" into the equation, and I’m taking Abraham to knock Froch out.
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Too Close to Call
but I think/hope body shots and just one, really well-timed ( near the 9th rnd) strength-sapping low blow by Froch will see him through to a WUD. One thing about Froch, I don’t love the guy, but I trust him to fight smart, filthy, and all out; but anything could happen
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Hmm. ...
I posted this before, but it seems to have vanished—
I would question Froch receiving a B- for handspeed and AA a C-.
To my eyes, AA has faster hands but leaves himself wide open and off balance when he punches in (semi-) bunches.
Heart: Arthur whines a lot but has yet to quit. Looks even to me.
I feel, that Carl’s chin is not quite what folks seem to think it is and that Abraham will nail him sooner or later.
On the other hand, I can see the belief that Froch might wage a strategic battle and keep AA out of sorts all night long.
Pick is AA in the later rounds.
Does Abraham eally hate to get hit by body shots?
Or does he just complain to the ref because usually he has refs that are biased in his favor for his fights in Germany and if he can get a point deducted from his opponent by playing it up why not?
I think he really hates them,
and moreover, it’s not so much to get points deducted, I don’t think, as simply to nullify meaningful opposition—he takes the only game that will beat him away from his opponent. Dirrell might have been the one DQ’s in Germany, and he wouldn’t have done anything wrong.
There is no safety in numbers, or in anything else--James Thurber, 1939
I think it's the equivalent of shrinking the strike zone
He has a turtle shell in the front, so it’s hard to hit anything but his arms unless you go under his elbows. And if the ref won’t let you hit below his elbows, well, then it doesn’t give you a whole lot of options.
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Who's the ref for this one?
Hoping it’s not that dodgy one from Finland who did Enzo Maccarinelli’s last fight.
I'll be cheering for Froch
like his heart
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Carl is just about my favourite fighter.
And I really want to be able to say, “oh yeah, he’s got this.” But I’ve really got no idea. My heart says Carl, but my head is saying Abraham via knockout. Eek.
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by Oli Goldstein on Nov 23, 2010 1:40 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Froch will take this one. Abe has been winning fights with just one (lucky?) punch. His win over Taylor I think means nothing….Taylor was a disaster waiting to happen, and he was outpunching Abe the entire fight (who said Abe was outpunching Taylor…different fight than I watched). Abe looked clueless against Dirrell. Yes, Dirrell is a good boxer but Froch moves around pretty well, his defence looks bad only because he likes to trade with guys.
And don’t forget Abe has come up in weight; had fought at 160 before the Super Six.
Froch by UD and I think he can KO the Armenian.
Abraham was ahead on all three cards, wide. He was 5, 4 and 2 rounds ahead on the cards, respectively. Doesn’t sound to me like Taylor was outpunching him. Didn’t look like it either, when Abraham was simply too good for him the whole fight.
Most fight fans would not spend a dime to watch Van Gogh paint 'Sunflowers', but they would fill Yankee Stadium to see him cut off his ear. (Bill Nack)
I Don't Care Much for AA,
Abe has been winning fights with just one (lucky?) punch.
but a 78.12% KO percentage isn’t just luck. Unfortunately.
There is no safety in numbers, or in anything else--James Thurber, 1939
Wow
I just noticed that you’ve got Froch as having faster hands than Arthur, Scott. I’m really surprised by that. I think of Abraham as having much faster hands than Froch, as was evidenced by their respective fights with Taylor, where Abraham was too fast for Jermain and Jermain was too fast for Froch.
I think your other stuff is pretty much on the money. I think the intangible is that Froch is ready to be cracked, in my opinion. He’s slowing down, he still blocks with his face, and that chin was under a lot of duress against Kessler. Even Dirrell stopped him in his tracks more than a few times, and Dirrell isn’t exactly Earnie Shavers. That chin is begging to be cracked, and Arthur might just be the nutcracker…… :)
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Stinky fish, check. :)
I might accidently find myself with vodka in hand at some point…. ;)
Most fight fans would not spend a dime to watch Van Gogh paint 'Sunflowers', but they would fill Yankee Stadium to see him cut off his ear. (Bill Nack)
Tough call..
If you compare the way each of them beat Taylor, you’d think AA would have a better chance of sparking Frochy. But you could also say JT was more shot when AA got to him.
But……. Frochy’s last few fights have all been wars and lets face it he’s no “Mr Elusive” in the ring. I’m on the fence.
Me too.
I believe that AA’s style is made for Froch but AA is tough. AA won’t outbox Froch, that’s for sure. Froch has to hurt the man and move. AA has a static defense and precious little movement. But he can emerge from his cave and deliver hard punches. Froch has to get on top of him and drain his strength. It could be mucky but Froch at his best has too much for the one-dimensional Abraham. There is a way for AA to win which is to get close and maul Froch but I hope that Froch has more savvy than that. And Froch can punch.
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by Randy Loathsome on Nov 24, 2010 3:46 PM EST up reply actions
like many others ive been on the fence with this one. its obviously a tough one to call, but if i had to choose i’d take froch by ud … aa’s camp say theyre going to start quicker, but in reality i dont see it. froch is going to outwork and outpoint aa in teh 1st 4-6. keep him off with the long jab and long right and has a good enough chin to survive till the 12th … froch by decision
This whole turtle shell thing is a joke to my mind. He simply walks forward with his hands round his head.
When his opponent stops punching he tries to unload some quick,long, and nasty shots. No-one heard of uppercuts.? There’s no static defence in the world that can protect a fighter all the time from any shot from any angle. It’s not possible. Okay, if AA discovers some sublime measure I’ve never seen before, I’ll tip my hat to the guy. Froch to win, but it will be tough, I grant you. AA won’t go over easily. Neither will Froch. Both fighters took 12 to KO Taylor. Tell us something?
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by Randy Loathsome on Nov 24, 2010 9:21 PM EST reply actions
But Froch HAD to KO Taylor, and Abraham just did it cos he felt like it.
I mean, Abraham cold well have just done nothing in the 12th, and coasted, but he saw the shot, and took it, and the rest is history.
It is worth something to me that they got the same result while Froch was killing himself to get Taylor out of there, and Abraham outboxed Taylor with ease from word go while fighting within himself, and could take or leave the stoppage.
Most fight fans would not spend a dime to watch Van Gogh paint 'Sunflowers', but they would fill Yankee Stadium to see him cut off his ear. (Bill Nack)
Abraham pts
Frochy’s wide open for that big right hand whenever he wades in, but he does take a good punch on that lantern jaw. His workrate should pry Abraham out of his shell sooner than we’re used to – but that could be a bad thing. Close matchup strength-wise, but Abraham’s faster, doesn’t telegraph em and has the more explosive power.
Tough fight, Froch keeps coming, both get a little busted up, but Abraham’s accuracy nicks it.
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by Randy Loathsome on Nov 28, 2010 12:21 PM EST up reply actions

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