Bad Left Hook Live Boxing Results and Commentary: Carl Froch v. Arthur Abraham
by Scott Christ on Nov 27, 2010 12:30 PM EST
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PrintCarl Froch and Arthur Abraham meet in the final group stage battle of the Super Six World Boxing Classic. This fight will air at 9pm EST on Showtime tonight in the United States, on tape delay. This will be live coverage of the bout from overseas, so if you're waiting for the Showtime card and don't want to know the results, don't enter this thread. We may go live at 2pm EST with full undercard coverage on Polsat Sport, but will at least be here at around 5pm EST with the main event. Join us!
| CARL FROCH "The Cobra" |
ARTHUR ABRAHAM "King Arthur" |
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| Record: | 26-1 (20 KO) | Record: | 31-1 (25 KO) |
| Age: | 33 | Age: | 30 |
| Hometown: | Nottingham, England | Hometown: | Yerevan, Armenia |
| Height: | 6'1" | Height: | 5'9" |
| Reach: | 74½" | Reach: | 72" |
| Ranks/Titles: | Bad Left Hook #5, Ring #4, ESPN #4, BoxRec #7 | Ranks/Titles: | Bad Left Hook #6, Ring #7, ESPN #6, BoxRec #6 |
| TV: | Polsat Sport - 2pm EST / Primetime (UK) - 5pm EST |
Venue: |
Hartwall Arena - Helsinki, Finland |
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gonna do the undercard
The two most notable undercard bouts:
Heavyweights, 12 Rounds
Robert Helenius (13-0, 9 KO) v. Attila Levin (34-3, 27 KO)
Junior Welterweights, 12 Rounds
Ville Piispanen (15-1-2, 6 KO) v. Daniel Rasilla (18-3, 5 KO)
You may remember Rasilla from losses to Andy Murray and/or Paul McCloskey.
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
He reminds me of MechaPavlik
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"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
Meaning he's like a gigantic, robotic version of Kelly pavlik
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"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
Oh right
I thought it had it was referring to KP but i actually checked Boxrec for a Mecha Pavlik………..
Mecha Pavlik is a Zimbabwean fighter
Like Jukebox Timebomb or Walter Ringo Starr
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Cliff Rold
is backing Abraham inside 5 rounds…http://www.boxingscene.com/?m=show&id=33261…..I‘m a bit suprised at that but i thought Abraham was a bit more effective against Dirrell than given credit for (as the fight wore on) and i mean before the illegal punch. :)
Froch has taunted Abraham about how Dirrell had his no. for much of that fight but Froch is no Dirrell in terms of slickness,movement and boxing ability,which are what flummoxed AA.
Froch’s style is pretty much made for AA,imo but no way do i see it ending in 5 rds.
I had a bet for an Abraham stoppage in rd 12 (20-1) but if Abraham can’t get him out of there,i think it will be very close on points and maybe controversial.
Interestingly Dirrell’s assistant trainer,who is likely no fan of either fighter is picking Abraham big.
I still like Abraham late. I honestly don’t believe either of them are better or worse than the other, just different. I’m a Froch fan but I just like Abe’s power once Carl wears himself out, because I don’t think Froch can stop Abraham, and I expect he’ll try in the mid-late rounds, particularly if he feels he’s built up a lead.
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by Scott Christ on Nov 27, 2010 1:11 PM EST up reply actions
I know you mentioned that you think this will be a good fight but maybe not a great fight.
If either or both of them decide to box i can see it being as you wrote in your preview but if they decide to stand and trade at any stage,especially if it happens early on,i think thats when we are going to get the war many are looking for,and a FOTY contender.
That seems about fair, really. This is one of those fights where picks are divided and everyone seems pretty dead-set on who they think will win.
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by Scott Christ on Nov 27, 2010 1:50 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah it’s close and the bookies are not usually far wrong.
They have Floyd (favourite) v Manny about the same odds which i think is pretty wide for Manny personally.
The bookies end up off when you have fan favorites fighting
I rarely bet on boxing, but I made a tidy sum on Mayweather-Hoya, for instance, just because so many non-fans were betting on Hoya.
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"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
Exactly
This is the way I bet too—always against the Gattis and Oscars of the boxing world.
Boxing writer: "Iran, what are you going to do when you retire?"
Iran Barkley: "Rob your house"
Anyone know the time of this fight in European (real) time - rather than EST whatever THAT is
Thank you.
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by Randy Loathsome on Nov 27, 2010 1:50 PM EST reply actions
Thanks, Matt. Is that British time? We're an hour ahead.
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by Randy Loathsome on Nov 27, 2010 1:52 PM EST up reply actions
Ah, thanks!
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by Randy Loathsome on Nov 27, 2010 1:52 PM EST up reply actions
Great. I have no TV coverage here but will follow the thread!
Go, Frochy!!!
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by Randy Loathsome on Nov 27, 2010 1:54 PM EST up reply actions
Tucker tucker bo bucker
Banana fanna fo…
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Abraham will stop Froch!
I’m totally jealous of Chaos100 being there right now.
I was meant to go over with him, but funds were low :S
Just had a bet on Abraham by stoppage Rounds 7-12 – decent odds to be had there!
"Chris Eubank lost his recent comeback fight on points ... the main one being that he's a total git."
I see Kevin Francis of The Daily Star took Froch in six. I think he can win, but he is not stopping Abraham in six rounds.
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I was just SHOCKED!
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by Scott Christ on Nov 27, 2010 2:00 PM EST up reply actions
Is it on TV in UK, Matt?
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by Randy Loathsome on Nov 27, 2010 2:01 PM EST up reply actions
Who'll be commentating?
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by Randy Loathsome on Nov 27, 2010 2:03 PM EST up reply actions
Oh, god.....
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by Randy Loathsome on Nov 27, 2010 2:05 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah?
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by Randy Loathsome on Nov 27, 2010 2:11 PM EST up reply actions
I loathe the guy, especially when Colin Murray blows smoke up his fat old Jacksie
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by Randy Loathsome on Nov 27, 2010 2:19 PM EST up reply actions
Rawling
is about as interesting and enduring as reading War and Peace in Russian,when you can’t speak the language.
He also constantly states the obvious.
Like Gary Richardson,
I cannot believe they pay his wages.
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by Randy Loathsome on Nov 27, 2010 2:27 PM EST up reply actions
on Primetime, yes
Also Polsat Sport will have it starting soon.
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by Scott Christ on Nov 27, 2010 2:02 PM EST up reply actions
and I think ARD has the main event, too?
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by Scott Christ on Nov 27, 2010 2:03 PM EST up reply actions
ARD should have both the main event and the Helenius fight, I think
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Thanks
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by Randy Loathsome on Nov 27, 2010 2:07 PM EST up reply actions
agreed
Boxing writer: "Iran, what are you going to do when you retire?"
Iran Barkley: "Rob your house"
Yep.
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by Scott Christ on Nov 27, 2010 2:04 PM EST up reply actions
About 3 1/2 hours from main event to be exact (or close to exact)
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by Scott Christ on Nov 27, 2010 2:06 PM EST up reply actions
Primetime
have Hopkins v Pascal listed for Dec 18th for any Brit fans interested.
They offered it when i ordered the Showtime double bill,at a discount rate so i got Froch v Abraham,Ward v Bika and Hopkins v Pascal for £23.
Hopkins fight should have been £10 but was discounted to £8 if you buy now.
I don’t usually bother with Primetime because of past experience but i really want to see Froch v AA and the salewoman lured me in for the Hopkins one.
That’s about what I pay for my Showtime package for those two months and the only thing I watch on there is boxing anyway.
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by Scott Christ on Nov 27, 2010 2:05 PM EST up reply actions
So on that other moronic site
Someone was getting into an argument with me that if Froch wins this, he should be ranked P4P top 5. I couldn’t get him to make a coherent argument, however, as to how he should be ranked ahead of Pacquiao, Mayweather, Martinez, Marquez or Klitschko. Or Kessler for that matter.
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If Froch wins this I might be able to find a place for him in the top 30. There are a lot of good boxers in the world.
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by Scott Christ on Nov 27, 2010 2:11 PM EST up reply actions
If Froch wins he's only as good as he says he is.
If not, he ain;t.
Makes Calzaghe look rather good at the moment but we’ll see what happens later!
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by Randy Loathsome on Nov 27, 2010 2:13 PM EST up reply actions
I'd probably have him at the back end of my top 20
I can’t completely ignore that he actually did beat Dirrell, even though I disagree with it. And I had him fighting even with Kessler. And the Pascal and Magee wins look much better now than they did at the time.
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Or Ward or Caballero or Pong, etc.
Boxing writer: "Iran, what are you going to do when you retire?"
Iran Barkley: "Rob your house"
are we all watching the showtime 360 thing?
or just me?
"After this, I'm gonna kick Bob Arum's ass."
-George Lopez
Sure looks like it
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I'm watching
Frochy having a go at Kalle Sauerland.
I don’t agree with what he saying about the judging in the Kessler fight but it was entertaing to listen to him kicking off ,i thought.
Not sure
i’m in the UK and havent been following it but they are showing some episodes before the undercard starts.
They are interviewing Dirrell at the moment.
Ah, the imaginary Dr. Shaw high
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He should get a second opinion from Dr. Jan Itor.
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by Scott Christ on Nov 27, 2010 2:19 PM EST up reply actions
Why would Dirrell need lawyers to answer which doctor he went to see and what his symptoms were.
I was willing to give the benfit of the doubt but then his flunkie started going on about lawyers?
Litigation
in the US is like a national hobby. There are people who do it—not lawyers, people who’s avocation and sustenance is suing people and living off the proceeds. This sets up a very defensive-minded population mind-set. Added to that is the horrendous trashing he took for “acting” that DQ, which was psychically similar to the crowd throwing beer & pee on dying fighters going out on stretchers, and you would get a siege mentality. The lawyer reference bothers people here too, but I can see it as siege mentality more easily than anything else.
There is no safety in numbers, or in anything else--James Thurber, 1939
I do think
Dirrell is getting too much doubt and suspicion cast on him in this case and i tend to believe what he says.The shot from Abraham was hard and unexpected.
Being from the UK we are not as used to all the litigation stuff and i was just wondering why he couldn’t answer the question but i understand what his associate was saying in that the questions being asked were a bit intrusive and were possibly trying to insinuate that Dirrell’s story was untrue.
If he even had just a bit of dizzyness i don’t blame him for pulling out.
You can’t be too careful with head injuries in this sport.
FWIW
I’m hearing rumblings that Dirrell is back training again. Not sure whether it’s true, but if it is, then my respect for him dropped a little. If he’s actually having neurological problems of the sort he was complaining about, then it’s not something that will just go away with a few months’ rest.
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I never like to question injuries, but I mean…there were rumblings that he wasn’t going to fight Ward before anyone ever really brought up neurological issues. People are questioning him for a lot of reasons.
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by Scott Christ on Nov 27, 2010 2:24 PM EST up reply actions
I like how Primetime UK is bringing me “a night of REAL boxing.” As opposed to that pretend boxing.
Bad Left Hook
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I like seeing folks use their cable/satellite guides.
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I just hope that Froch doesn't slip with AA in range. Who knows what he'll do when he's down.
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by Randy Loathsome on Nov 27, 2010 2:27 PM EST reply actions
Even though I picked Froch
I’m hoping Abraham wins so we get to see Abraham-Johnson and Ward-Froch in the next round.
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That Nottinghamshire rice-pudding skins are extra thick is to what he refers.
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by Randy Loathsome on Nov 27, 2010 2:30 PM EST up reply actions
Ha-haaa!
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by Randy Loathsome on Nov 27, 2010 2:43 PM EST up reply actions
Hey, Adamek-Briggs highlights on Polsat. Back when Paul Briggs’ name was associated with warrior mentality.
Bad Left Hook
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Underrated classics
My girlfriend maintains that Adamek-Briggs II is still the favorite fight she’s ever seen.
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It was absolutely tremendous, and it made me a hardcore (rather than just casual) Adamek fan
Boxing writer: "Iran, what are you going to do when you retire?"
Iran Barkley: "Rob your house"
im all for watching glen johnson ko green again
but does nebody know when the undercard bouts get started?
"After this, I'm gonna kick Bob Arum's ass."
-George Lopez
Not sure with Primetime. They might just have the main and hours of filler until to entice buying. The Polsat broadcast has been going through old highlights for a little bit here, too.
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by Scott Christ on Nov 27, 2010 2:51 PM EST up reply actions
also someone mention it if Primetime DOES have the undercards, please
So that I can switch over. The UK Dan Tucker is a lot better than the Polish Dan Tucker.
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by Scott Christ on Nov 27, 2010 2:52 PM EST up reply actions
Great
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Dan Tucker vs. Danski Tuwjkerczweki
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ah, awesome
Thanks!
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by Scott Christ on Nov 27, 2010 2:53 PM EST up reply actions
First fight starting
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a little late but
im just now seeing pix of berto from the weigh ins.. dude looks in shape
"After this, I'm gonna kick Bob Arum's ass."
-George Lopez
Yeah he’s ripped.
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by Scott Christ on Nov 27, 2010 3:01 PM EST up reply actions
I have no idea who these guys are except that they're really ugly
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Randy L
The Primetime commentary team will be Ron McIntosh and Spencer Oliver
I can’t say i’m sure who McIntosh is,but the can’t be worse than Rawling. :)
Wow, the arena is almost completely empty
It’s Rasilla-Piispanen starting I guess
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yeah
They’re not exactly hanging off the rafters.
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by Scott Christ on Nov 27, 2010 3:07 PM EST up reply actions
Does that ring look small or is it just my tiny screen?
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by Scott Christ on Nov 27, 2010 3:10 PM EST up reply actions
Looks normal to me
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It was that side angle shot that made it look smaller, I think.
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by Scott Christ on Nov 27, 2010 3:14 PM EST up reply actions
guess im behind
im still watching johnson green
"After this, I'm gonna kick Bob Arum's ass."
-George Lopez
That’s still what Primetime has. I’m on Polsat right now.
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by Scott Christ on Nov 27, 2010 3:13 PM EST up reply actions
got u
"After this, I'm gonna kick Bob Arum's ass."
-George Lopez
by Eddie Gonzalez on Nov 27, 2010 3:14 PM EST up reply actions
and you aren't missing anything
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by Scott Christ on Nov 27, 2010 3:15 PM EST up reply actions
lol
sounds like it… i might just come back in a few hours when the main even starts
"After this, I'm gonna kick Bob Arum's ass."
-George Lopez
by Eddie Gonzalez on Nov 27, 2010 3:16 PM EST up reply actions
Through one round, Rasilla looks the better man to me
But I don’t care enough to RBR. I don’t think they’re airing this fight on PrimeTime for another 15 minutes or so anyway.
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I don’t even care enough to pay any attention, really.
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by Scott Christ on Nov 27, 2010 3:14 PM EST up reply actions
Andy Kerr
could have at least bought a decent suit.He’s on tv for crying out loud!
That one looks like he got it from the Salvation Army.
Froch
is right,imo.The last man standing will still be the best of the those who entered,even if there were fighters pulling out,etc.
What i see with the Super6 more than anything is that,for it’s faults,we still got (and have to come) some top fights that we probably would not have seen,especially not in such a short period of time.
Top 10 fighters fighting one after another.That can’t be bad.
that's the silver lining
But it’s still been a serious mess. And predictable at that, frankly.
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by Scott Christ on Nov 27, 2010 3:23 PM EST up reply actions
a predictable mess, I mean
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by Scott Christ on Nov 27, 2010 3:23 PM EST up reply actions
Four or five rounds, I think. Not that it really matters. It’s just Daniel Rasilla.
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by Scott Christ on Nov 27, 2010 3:24 PM EST up reply actions
Oh hell, they’re going to the Rasilla fight. I already saw two rounds of this.
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Oh no
I just realised who Ron McIntosh is……..He’s the big dopey giant with the big hands and clown feet from the BBC.
Surely they can do better than this………….Are they looking for the worst possible people they can find or what?
:)
Is this fight between Rasilla and McIntosh the last under card fight?
"Yes Gina, I am a Wise Cracker"
I just realised
I thought this and the Helenius fight was for the EBU title,the proper European belt but it’s for the third rate EU belt.
Paul McCloskey is the real European champ at 140.
The difference is that Helenius is actually decent
Alexander Dimitrenko and Albert Sosnowski are fighting for the vacant European title soon. I suspect Helenius would beat either of them.
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Hell
I’d give Atilla Levin a decent chance against either of them.
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I look forward to seeing Helenius then.If you think he could take them two with only a 13-0 record,he must be pretty decent.
Sosnowski is lousy.
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by Scott Christ on Nov 27, 2010 3:45 PM EST up reply actions
Still,
much more experienced than Helenius bit i’ll reserve judgement until i’ve seen this Helenius character.
Of course, after talking him up
he’ll probably get knocked out this fight
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I have bet on Abraham 12th rd stoppage at 20-1
but i honestly think it go either way.Froch could nick it on points and if it goes tha full 12,i think he is more likely to come through with the nod.
I don’t mind these kind of fights because i have a chance of winning a few quid with AA but i will be happy for our fellow Brit if Carl wins.
How about you?
AA late for me, took a couple of punts on Abraham SD and MD and a shot on Froch to be knocked down.. looking forward to it now
Bet of the night
50 – 1, Bika to be dq’d against Ward – Chaos tipped me off for that one, gotta be worth a punt!
"Chris Eubank lost his recent comeback fight on points ... the main one being that he's a total git."
It’s not offensive, I wouldn’t say, like Vitali-Kevin Johnson or something, but the skill level is not what I should be seeing on TV. Anywhere. And it’s not like one of them is a prospect or something.
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by Scott Christ on Nov 27, 2010 3:56 PM EST up reply actions
Chaos100 phoned me 30 mins or so ago, said the atmosphere is crap, the crowd only doing the “slow clap” every now and again.
He also pointed out the place is busier now than it normally is in the UK for undercards (that really annoys me about UK cards [that and football fans pretending to know boxing :P]).
Still, gonna be a good night of boxing, will have to DL Marquez Katsidis in the morning!
"Chris Eubank lost his recent comeback fight on points ... the main one being that he's a total git."
One would think the locals would get there in time for the Helenius fight
Since he’s the local draw
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Yeesh
With all the hot women in Scandinavia, you’d think they could find hotter ring card girls
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Switching to the UK....
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Ebu-Eu title? Not the standard EBU title? Anyone know the difference?
"Chris Eubank lost his recent comeback fight on points ... the main one being that he's a total git."
Yeah
The EU title is the crap version
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EBU : WBC :: EBU-EU : WBC International or the like.
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by Scott Christ on Nov 27, 2010 4:11 PM EST up reply actions
115-113 Rasilla
115-113 Piispanen
114-114
So a draw.
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Is Froch/Abraham starting at 5 or are they running early/late?
I’m watching Froch/Kessler right now and don’t want to miss anything.
5:30
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by Scott Christ on Nov 27, 2010 4:17 PM EST up reply actions
Absolutely
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yes
Good quality, no unwanted junk.
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by Scott Christ on Nov 27, 2010 4:20 PM EST up reply actions
Haha
Froch pulled his pants up to his nipples making fun of Abraham
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He may not be the best boxer around
but Froch has been in some good,entertaining fights which is surely what matters most to us fans.
Pascal,Taylor,(OK Dirrell was bad),Kessler and now hopefully Abraham.
The Taylor fight is worth watching more than once just for the ending.
I’m proud to say Froch is English and i think it was after the Taylor fight that he earned a few American fans.
which he prompty lost after the Dirrell fight
I was particularly incensed that he actually bragged about beating Dirrell, even though he clearly was gifted the fight. If he had just said something like, “yeah, it was a close fight, but this one went my way,” I wouldn’t have minded. But he acted like he had just blown out Dirrell, as if Dirrell wasn’t even in his league, when Dirrell actually took him to school.
I’m not Froch fan.
Oh, and what Scott said: Abraham by late KO.
Boxing writer: "Iran, what are you going to do when you retire?"
Iran Barkley: "Rob your house"
He didn't take him to school
I agree that Dirrell won the fight but it was only by about 2 rounds,imo,and Dirrell “fought” like a frightened rabbit all night,though landed the more meaningful (counter)shots as far as i could see.
I think you’ll find many Americans are Froch fans from what i see on the message boards but i’m sure Froch doesn’t really care either way.
Oh,and Dirrell had less to be proud about in that fight than Froch did.At least Froch actually wanted to fight. :)
OK, "took him to school" was a stretch. I give you that.
Boxing writer: "Iran, what are you going to do when you retire?"
Iran Barkley: "Rob your house"
Agreed 100%
And when he lost (and imho he did so clearly against Kessler) he called it a home town decision.
I didn’t like Froch because of all the mouth to Calzaghe.
He won me over with his performances against Pascal and Taylor.
He started to lose me with his attitude after the Dirrel fight.
I’ve gone back to not liking him since the Kessler fight.
Go AA!
"Chris Eubank lost his recent comeback fight on points ... the main one being that he's a total git."
And when he lost (and imho he did so clearly against Kessler) he called it a home town decision.
Good point. That didn’t endear me to him much either.
Boxing writer: "Iran, what are you going to do when you retire?"
Iran Barkley: "Rob your house"
I agree
he lost that fight and has is fighting a lost casue complaining about it.
He never mentions that Dirrell’s was actually a homtown decision so in a way the balance was redressed.
haha yeah
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by Scott Christ on Nov 27, 2010 4:25 PM EST up reply actions
I'm looking forward to this one more than Marquez-Katsidis
AA is one of my favs and Froch makes for good wars,should be a good one, I got AA by late stoppage
OK, I’m out till the main event. Need to get some paper-grading done today before I crack the bottle of rum and settle in for the (hopefully) fine night of boxing ahead of us. That and watching Oklahoma hopefully kick Oklahoma State’s butt, so my beloved Nebraska Cornhuskers can face Oklahoma one more time before moving to the Big “10” (American college football reference).
Looking forward to the banter later. See you soon.
Boxing writer: "Iran, what are you going to do when you retire?"
Iran Barkley: "Rob your house"
Looking forward to the Big “10” next year with Nebraska in.
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by Scott Christ on Nov 27, 2010 4:41 PM EST up reply actions
yea, you can have ‘em, they haven’t done shit in about 15 years. This year’s been an aberration. One reason they’re moving is cuz they can’t compete. Nooobody wants to live in Lincoln, NE.
The Big 12 will pick up Boise State and be stronger for the switch.
"Yes Gina, I am a Wise Cracker"
they haven’t done shit in about 15 years
That’s a pretty big stretch considering since 2000 they’ve had four seasons of 10+ wins.
One reason they’re moving is cuz they can’t compete
They’ve won their division two straight years.
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by Scott Christ on Nov 27, 2010 4:47 PM EST up reply actions
they won the Big 12 North…..which is basically the Big 10. When’s the last time they were even remotely close to winning the conference.
Consider their fall, Scott. This was a National Powerhouse 15 years ago. Now they’re not even close to a conference powerhouse. A move to a weaker conference, the weakest AQ conference by far, may allow them to compete again.
"Yes Gina, I am a Wise Cracker"
Big 8 you mean I think
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move to a weaker conference, the weakest AQ conference by far
I never say this, but uh: LOL.
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by Scott Christ on Nov 27, 2010 4:51 PM EST up reply actions
The Big Ten is also much better than the fucking ACC, for that matter.
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by Scott Christ on Nov 27, 2010 4:52 PM EST up reply actions
Also, likely the Pac-10
top to bottom that is.
I’d say the Big 12 is likely better than the big 10 (although its somewhat close) and the sec is perenially the best.
Pac-10 has Oregon St, Washingotn, Washington St., Cal, UCLA, Arizona, Arizona St, aweakened USC and a legit oregon team, and a quasi legit stanford team. That being said, no way in Hell oregon goes unbeaten in even the Big 10 I would think.
by journeyintosound on Nov 27, 2010 4:55 PM EST up reply actions
I think Stanford is very good. I would also expect Oregon to run the Big Ten this year — their offense is incredible. The only Big Ten team I’d give a good shot against them is Wisconsin.
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by Scott Christ on Nov 27, 2010 4:57 PM EST up reply actions
Oregon’s speed is on a completely different level than any team in the Big 10 – the conference that has problems with….speed.
"Yes Gina, I am a Wise Cracker"
Yeah, people keep saying that, and it was admittedly true a couple of times when Ohio State laid a turd in bowl games (that and Tressel gets outcoached when against other powerhouse teams), but it’s not as gigantic an issue as people seem to believe.
I just don’t buy into this group think that the Big Ten teams are all in concrete shoes while the SEC and (this year’s two best Pac-10 teams) are filled with Usain Bolt knockoffs.
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by Scott Christ on Nov 27, 2010 5:04 PM EST up reply actions
I just don’t buy into this group think that the Big Ten teams are all in concrete shoes while the SEC
Shit I hope I don’t buy into group think, either. But I do watch the games. And I do pay attention to recruiting class rankings – The Big 10 is consistently way down the line on the recruits lists. Independent of causes and conditions, it follows that they’re not going to have the studs. Then, when I see them get demolished in Bowl games by faster teams, I reach conclusions.
You can’t bring a donkey to the horse race.
"Yes Gina, I am a Wise Cracker"
Then, when I see them get demolished in Bowl games by faster teams, I reach conclusions.
Sorry, but it’s just not as true as you think it is.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704876104574633063888329876.html
One of the great misunderstandings in college football is that the Big Ten’s teams have trouble winning bowl games generally, and that they are especially out of their depth in games against teams from the Southeastern Conference.
In fact, the Big Ten does just fine year after year—in the early New Year’s Day bowls that no one remembers. (It’s the big games that have been the embarrassments.) Over the past dozen seasons, the Big Ten is now 13-11 against the SEC in the Outback and Capital One bowls. That is a winning record over a significant time span against upper-level SEC teams in SEC country.
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by Scott Christ on Nov 27, 2010 5:15 PM EST up reply actions
1. New Year’s day Bowls
2. The trend is clear and will continue to widen as better athletes choose schools in the Big 12, SEC, PAC 10, and Boise State over Big 10 schools, as the data shows.
"Yes Gina, I am a Wise Cracker"
You mean New Year’s Day bowls like the Capital One and Outback, where they play an SEC team every year, and a good SEC team at that. The trend is not clear. Notre Dame has a highly-rated recruiting class every year, too.
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by Scott Christ on Nov 27, 2010 5:32 PM EST up reply actions
If we stretch out the data to 100 years the Big 10 will look even better.
check out the Big 10’s stats over the past 5 years in Bowl game – not just against the SEC, but overall. For a so-called “powerhouse” conference, they’re not doing well.
"Yes Gina, I am a Wise Cracker"
Well if you want to narrow it from 12 to 5, how about just last year where the conference went 4-3 in bowls. Why not?
I guess Oregon also got 200% faster since last year when Ohio State beat them.
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by Scott Christ on Nov 27, 2010 5:35 PM EST up reply actions
So the trend is that the Big Ten was better last year than the years before. The trend is clear! It’s all over! They wear tennis shoes instead of cleats!
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by Scott Christ on Nov 27, 2010 5:37 PM EST up reply actions
yea 4-3. The year before they went a god-forsaken 1-6 and in ’07 3-5. What a powerhouse, AQ – secure!
And, as I mentioned above, they’re simply not getting the horses, which explains, and will continue to show.
"Yes Gina, I am a Wise Cracker"
It might continue to show. It didn’t last year. I don’t mean to sound like some Big Ten flunky. It’s clearly not on the level of the SEC or, in almost all years, the Big 12. But it’s just not any worse than the ACC or Pac-10. The Big East is the pathetic joke of a BCS conference, but they’re so bad now that nobody even bothers paying attention to the fact that they steal an AQ spot every year.
BTW, I’ve enjoyed this conversation. Good way to kill some time before the fights.
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by Scott Christ on Nov 27, 2010 5:41 PM EST up reply actions
And it makes sense, Scott. Why would a kid go to Michigan when he could go to Austin, Fla, Oxford or even Norman? – Winter’s a bitch, and those states are struggling.
"Yes Gina, I am a Wise Cracker"
Well unless I’m an option QB I wouldn’t go to Michigan at all at this point.
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by Scott Christ on Nov 27, 2010 5:44 PM EST up reply actions
Def. better than the Big East
I don’t know if that’s true about the ACC, though. Of the 4 major conferences (Big 10, SEC, Big 12, PAC), the Big 10’s quality of football is shocking.
Here’s the other thing: the ACC will rise again – Miami, Va Tech are schools that can recruit in America’s breadbasket of football regardless of their current position. Increasingly, the northern schools (Big 10) cannot get those same kids, with the notable exception of OSU – who is the beneficiary of some guy named Pickens.
"Yes Gina, I am a Wise Cracker"
My school stinks
But they’ll at least get to play in a bowl this year.
Here’s to hoping DickRod gets canned in the next couple weeks.
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You realize UConn is in the driver’s seat to win the Big East now? They could go to a BCS bowl at 7-5. UConn, who got trounced by no-D Michigan.
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by Scott Christ on Nov 27, 2010 4:54 PM EST up reply actions
I’m actually OK with Rodriguez staying so long as he’s forced to get rid of that terrible “defensive coordinator” that tried to kill Syracuse football dead as head coach there.
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by Scott Christ on Nov 27, 2010 4:56 PM EST up reply actions
It's Rodriguez's fault
that he insists on hiring coaches who prefer to run a 4-3 while Rodriguez insists that they operate a 5-3-3
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And a 5-3-3 is just a horrible defensive scheme anyway
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It’s the 3-3-5, and yes, it’s fucking awful. It even neutralizes their better players like Craig Roh who are actually good. Michigan hasn’t had a good secondary in about a decade. It’s generally their achilles’ heel. So hey! Stick five DBs out there in extra soft zones! As many freshmen as possible!
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by Scott Christ on Nov 27, 2010 5:06 PM EST up reply actions
When’s the last time they were even remotely close to winning the conference.
Um, how about last year, when they lost by a single point? Or is a single point loss not “remotely close” in your book. Are you sure you haven’t confused Nebraska with Colorado? lol
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On that OSU v. OU line
Tonight will be interesting – if you’re watching the game pay attention to what happens during the National Anthem. Sooners have a pathetic tradition of disrespecting the song by yelling “and the home of the Sooners!” instead of “and the home of the brave!” Word is there are will be a well-orchestrated reaction by some OSU ruffnecks.
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stupid better picture Dan Tucker and its blips
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Levin 10-9
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I could well be wrong
but first impressions of Helenius are he just has a look that seems destined to be laid out on his back in the lon run,to me.
Not necessarily on ability,just his lazy "just got out of bed " look.
yes
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by Scott Christ on Nov 27, 2010 4:47 PM EST up reply actions
both will have the main event live, but the undercards have been airing on delay on Primetime
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by Scott Christ on Nov 27, 2010 4:48 PM EST up reply actions
And Levin is down!
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Wow, that was a lot of fun for the last 30 seconds or so
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Now the place looks pretty packed
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I’ve never been to a live fight. I’ll be headed to the showtime card on the 11th. Every time I watch a fight I just get more and more excited.
Is that the bantamweights?
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yeah
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by Scott Christ on Nov 27, 2010 4:52 PM EST up reply actions
i'm going to that show too
emerald queen is a good place to watch a fight
Helenius had been tentatively scheduled to face Valuev
Before Valuev came down with an injury. I wouldn’t be surprised at all if his next fight is against a legit top 15 fighter.
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The way things are falling these days, his next fight might be Wladimir.
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by Scott Christ on Nov 27, 2010 4:55 PM EST up reply actions
btw on the heavyweight front
If anyone didn’t see, Arreola’s next fight is against club fighter ordinaire Joey Abell.
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260 or so
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by Scott Christ on Nov 27, 2010 5:01 PM EST up reply actions
Probably not since I expect his next loss will really discourage him and he’ll become a journeyman.
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by Scott Christ on Nov 27, 2010 5:17 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah
like Frcoh mate and sparring partner is gonna go against Froch’s sentiments on the Kessler fight.
Of course he was making excuses.
They should bring pundits on who aren’t biased towards fighters they are close to.
Still can't get over
Froch slagging off other boxer’s technique – does this man not own a tape player?
Carl, your CHIN IS NOT A GUARD.
:@
"Chris Eubank lost his recent comeback fight on points ... the main one being that he's a total git."
I think Froch is wrong about Abraham being a middleweight.He has grown into this weight and looked strong and powerful at the weigh in,imo.
AA was killing himself to amke 160 and was probably weakening himself.
168 is just right for him and i think Froch will find out soon enough that he hits more than hard enough for the weight.
I just got a note from someone I trust who let me know that they’ve sold about 1,600 tickets for Ward-Bika at Oracle Arena in Oakland. The venue holds about 20,000. Probably time to hit the road for once, Andre.
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All these British pundits think Dirrell is a faker. I don’t see how you watch that footage and think “faker”.
I agree
they are talking crap (and i am a Brit)…Darren Barker should go fight someone and stop pulling out of fights before running off his mouth off anyway.
My respect for George Groves has dwindled
since i noticed that he has ridiculous,childish tattoos of a cartoon kitten next to a shamrock and a Jelly Baby inside what looks like a magnet(?) on his left arm?
I never want one of any kind personally but what kind of idiot gets such meaningless tatts
I thought he was faking when I saw it in full motion, after seeing it in slow motion I changed my mind…
The neurological “injury” that allowed him to dodge ward on the other hand… I’m not convinced!
"Chris Eubank lost his recent comeback fight on points ... the main one being that he's a total git."
im back
JUST in time too… yessssss
"After this, I'm gonna kick Bob Arum's ass."
-George Lopez
lol @ "we will rock you"
"After this, I'm gonna kick Bob Arum's ass."
-George Lopez
oh for fuck's sake
I never want to hear “Welcome to the Jungle” again
Bad Left Hook
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quick request
Since some of us (most of us, I’m guessing) aren’t watching on proper TV, if those of you who are could avoid reacting to knockdowns/knockouts until round summaries are posted, I’d appreciate it. Thanks.
Bad Left Hook
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To be fair to Big Ron McIntosh
He seems to have a clue what he is talking about,which is refreshing for a British commentator.
Froch-Abraham R1
Abraham out with his guard high, Froch jabbing at distance with his left low. Just like it might look on a video game. Abraham circling at center ring. Abraham shoots a wild right, but not even close to landing. Abraham with a right, not much on it as it nicks a ducking Froch. Slow start from Abraham as usual. Froch with a left, then a right after is mostly blocked. Abraham wildly charges with another right. Uppercut from Froch is short. Jabs starting to land for Froch, and he’s pumping it consistently. Good right to the body by Froch, and Abraham avoids complaining for now. Froch’s length is making a difference so far. Froch with a combo, Abraham misses a right hand.
Froch 10-9
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I’m posting this down here for lcollins1, because I think my comment got lost above. Earlier you asked when was the the last time Nebraska came “remotely close” to winning their conference title. Apparently, you forgot about just last year, when they won the Big 12 North and came within a point of winning the whole thing. If coming within a single point is not “remotely close” then I don’t know what is.
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Iran Barkley: "Rob your house"
Froch-Abraham R2
Froch still jabbing. Abraham still with the high guard. Abraham gets in close, and Froch drops low and puts a shoulder into him, tying him up. Probably smart of him. Abraham with a jab to the body. Froch misses a left hook and a right is blocked after. Hard uppercut by Froch, mostly blocked but had some steam on it. Froch’s jab still working. Froch with a right and left after, then a left. Nothing lands clean. But it looks like Abraham is waking up. Abraham shoots another left hook. Froch blocks another left hook, very telegraphed by Abraham. Froch backs him down with a right, then four shots to the body. Right hand down the pipe shoves Abraham back a little. Abraham absorbing blows but losing the rounds clearly right now. Froch with a right at the end of the round.
Froch 10-9
Froch 20-18
Bad Left Hook
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this is gonna get interesting
in the 8th round when abraham finally lets his hands go..
"After this, I'm gonna kick Bob Arum's ass."
-George Lopez
Abraham's
got a good jab himself and he’s the one making the fight a bit conservative.
But he’s just waiting……………………. :)
Froch-Abraham R3
Abraham just can’t find his range, a credit to Froch’s jabbing and his effectiveness with his feet so far. But Abraham is always a coiled cobra, with respect to Froch’s nickname. Abraham wings a couple and does catch Froch with a left. Closer round with a minute left, could be stolen. Abraham opens up, doesn’t land anything big. There’s a right hand from Arthur, his best shot of the fight so far. Froch misses a right. Abraham’s pace picking up. And Froch starts stalking and throwing combinations, too. This could really get going at any moment. Froch backs Abraham down and unloads on the ropes. Uppercut by Froch. Closest round, I still go with Froch.
Froch 10-9
Froch 30-27
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OK, I'm back
Damn conference calls. Work never ends.
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Looks like the fight is going just as I predicted so far
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Froch-Abraham R4
Body shot by Froch. Carl still jabbing effectively on the outside. Froch loading up on shots now, going body and head, mostly getting blocked, but occasionally getting through, and is obviously the aggressor and the one putting in major work. Abraham is marked up and getting nothing done offensively. Abraham charges and still can’t do much. Abraham misses another right. Now they’re both jabbing. Now and then Abraham, as always, looks alive, but it’s just not enough. But it looks like he might be ready to turn it up.
Froch 10-9
Froch 40-36
Bad Left Hook
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She just had a kid? Good Lord.
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Let's hope the baby didn't end up with his looks and her intellect
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That's Chaos
I don't take personal insults well. My wires are such so that when it happens, i'm not going to put on head gear, lace up the gloves and put in the mouthpiece. I'm going to drop the gloves and just let the adrenaline take off.
lol
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What fight was that recently where the ref stopped the fight to tell the corner to stop screaming so loud?
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Vitali-Briggs
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by Scott Christ on Nov 27, 2010 6:06 PM EST up reply actions
Froch-Abraham R5
Both of these guys are fighting exactly like themselves. And that is, predictably, favoring Froch on the cards. Abraham is always dangerous, but the way he’s fighting, he’s going to need the knockout. Froch firing, Abraham coming back but doesn’t have the speed, and what he does is really telegraphed. Abraham looks awful and might have gotten stung there with a right hand. Now he fires his own right, might have nicked Froch. Another round for Carl Froch, punctuated with a left.
Froch 10-9
Froch 50-45
Bad Left Hook
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Whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy is she mic’d?
"Chris Eubank lost his recent comeback fight on points ... the main one being that he's a total git."
Primetime people say that was dominant for Froch
But I’m tempted to give the round to Abraham. Abraham blocked pretty much everything, and I thought he landed the best punch or two of the round.
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I gave it to AA, but that was the only one so far on my card
Boxing writer: "Iran, what are you going to do when you retire?"
Iran Barkley: "Rob your house"
I agree that Froch is winning, but these announcers are so ridiculously biased that it’s annoying me.
Boxing writer: "Iran, what are you going to do when you retire?"
Iran Barkley: "Rob your house"
Turn the sound off
Don't tell me I play bum notes - I KNOW!
by Randy Loathsome on Nov 27, 2010 6:07 PM EST up reply actions
I believe I will.
Boxing writer: "Iran, what are you going to do when you retire?"
Iran Barkley: "Rob your house"
I believe I will.
Boxing writer: "Iran, what are you going to do when you retire?"
Iran Barkley: "Rob your house"
Get the benefit of blocking out Cobra's missus
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The Primetime announcers are Ronald McIntosh and Spencer Oliver
Is this fight any good? I’m watching Washington suck it up.
I suffer from IBS, otherwise known as "Influx of Billick Syndrome".
Froch-Abraham R6
Abraham still just waiting and waiting and waiting. When he does throw, it’s so reckless and easy to defend that it does nothing but make him look desperate. Froch pops him with a left. He’s done well when Abraham has dropped his guard now and again, getting a quick shot in. Nothing huge, but it counts. Right hand by Froch. Body shots from Froch. They just called it “target practice,” which is a bit much. Left hand by Abraham, not clean, and Froch almost catches him stumbling around again. Right hand by Froch is wild, and Abraham comes back just as wild. Froch catches Abraham, and Abraham slips.
Froch 10-9
Froch 60-54
Well, Arthur, it’s about time to get going.
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Great round for Froch
But I’m afraid he’s getting so cocky that he’s getting very sloppy in there. If he gets too sloppy, that turns the table in Abraham’s favor.
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On a side note
Abraham needs to stop wearing white trunks. One would have thought he’d learned his lesson after the Taylor rip fiasco.
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Froch needs to be careful not to get winded
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Froch-Abraham R7
There are times during Arthur Abraham’s fights when I wonder what exactly his plan is. Does he ever consider that he’s NOT going to knock someone out? Froch isn’t landing a ton still, but he’s just throwing and throwing, and Abraham is doing NOTHING. Abraham gets backed down, he’s getting marked up, and he’s not fighting back. If Arthur Abraham ever ran into an especially jumpy referee he could get stopped without eating a proper hard shot. If Abraham wins this fight, chances are it’s going to be an all-time great possum performance winding Froch to the point he can’t do much. Froch lands a good body shot.
Froch 10-9
Froch 70-63
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I'll second all that.
Don't tell me I play bum notes - I KNOW!
by Randy Loathsome on Nov 27, 2010 6:17 PM EST up reply actions
abraham is clottey-ing this fight up
"After this, I'm gonna kick Bob Arum's ass."
-George Lopez
Drawbacks of the turtle shell style...
It’s hard to get off punches if the other fighter is being very aggressive.
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I don’t usually say this, but I think Abraham may be overrated… he’s making Froch look like a good boxer
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Fire Steve Addazio.
Carl's proving better than he's been given credit for
I hated every minute of training, but I said, ‘’Don’t quit. Suffer now and live the rest of your life as a champion.'’ (Bernard Hopkins)
I used to think he had that ability from watching him come through the ranks but i had started to think he had lost it.
He’s listening to advice for once.
Exactly right. AA is made for him - (as I said) so far!!
;)
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by Randy Loathsome on Nov 27, 2010 6:19 PM EST up reply actions
Yes, but when certain posters called it for AA I shut up and waited.......
so far…..
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by Randy Loathsome on Nov 27, 2010 6:25 PM EST up reply actions
that guy just loves to flat out run though
I hated every minute of training, but I said, ‘’Don’t quit. Suffer now and live the rest of your life as a champion.'’ (Bernard Hopkins)
Froch-Abraham R8
Froch with another right to the body. Then he throws upstairs, Abraham backs down and covers up, and NOTHING COMES BACK. Froch has him cornered and getting wild now. Froch eggs Abraham on, and lands punches. Abraham does that and does nothing. Now it gets a bit chippy and Abraham gets warned for an elbow. Froch continues to fairly easily win this fight. I’m not saying it’s easy, because it’s hard to hit Abraham clean. Abraham stings him with a left, but Froch recovers really quickly and keeps throwing.
Froch 10-9
Froch 80-72
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Abraham clearly looks discouraged on his face
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This is an awful, awful performance from Arthur Abraham. Absolutely awful, and if it keeps up, the perception of Abraham is going to drastically change.
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AA looks as bad as I’ve seen him.
Boxing writer: "Iran, what are you going to do when you retire?"
Iran Barkley: "Rob your house"
It's the style matchup
He’s no worse than he ever was, but like I said before – between the reach, the workrate and the slightly loopy punches, Abraham just can’t get into his game.
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You called this from early on. I remember way back you describing this as a style nightmare for AA
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Iran Barkley: "Rob your house"
I so hate the way that AA fights
I’m a happy bunny
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by Randy Loathsome on Nov 27, 2010 6:22 PM EST up reply actions
His jab is improved. Froch is using it tactically this fight in a way I haven't seen
Boxing writer: "Iran, what are you going to do when you retire?"
Iran Barkley: "Rob your house"
He's most of the reason for Abraham looking bad
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Abraham's most impressive recent wins are over glass-jawed Miranda and a shot Taylor
But I did not think it would be this bad.
I suffer from IBS, otherwise known as "Influx of Billick Syndrome".
If Abraham can't do anything against Froch
how on earth is he going to do anything against Ward? (Loser of this fight fights Ward in the semis)
I like Abraham's chances better against Ward than against Froch
Ward will have a serious speed advantage, as well as a serious versatility advantage, but no reach advantage, a serious power disadvantage, and his chin isn’t nearly as good as Froch’s. I suspect Ward will try to bully Abraham on the inside like he did against Kessler, since Abraham has little to no inside game, but I don’t think Ward can outbox him on the outside like Dirrell and Froch did, since Ward would have a reach disadvantage against Abraham.
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come on Carl!! careful boy
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Froch-Abraham R9
Right hand by Froch gets Abraham’s attention in a big way. Abraham throws back. But he doesn’t have the speed to find Froch. Froch is a lot better than he often gets credit for, and I felt this fight was basically 50-50 coming in, but Froch is for all intents and purposes dominating this fight. He’s completely shutting Abraham down. Another right backs Arthur down. Froch chasing him and throwing punches in bunches. Abraham still has not found range. Abraham is obviously discouraged and may now be well out of this fight.
Froch 10-9
Froch 90-81
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lol
I hated every minute of training, but I said, ‘’Don’t quit. Suffer now and live the rest of your life as a champion.'’ (Bernard Hopkins)
These announcers make Gus Johnson sound like Steven Wright
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"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
haha
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by Scott Christ on Nov 27, 2010 6:23 PM EST up reply actions
nice
Boxing writer: "Iran, what are you going to do when you retire?"
Iran Barkley: "Rob your house"
Hey, AA might finally be waking up
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"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
I'll put the coffee on
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by Randy Loathsome on Nov 27, 2010 6:25 PM EST up reply actions
he's looking desperate to me now
that was a dominate round for Froch, who was backing up AA for long streches
by Polish Rifle on Nov 27, 2010 6:26 PM EST up reply actions
Froch-Abraham R10
Froch backing him down again. Froch is putting the pressure on, landing cleaner than earlier, and he looks extremely confident. At the same time Froch isn’t getting overly wild, just taking openings when they do come. The jab is still there. Abraham looks broken in spirit. Left hand to the body hurts Abraham. Froch again throwing, Abraham comes back but can’t land anything. Froch is in full control.
Froch 10-9
Froch 100-90
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listen to McCracken Carl
I hated every minute of training, but I said, ‘’Don’t quit. Suffer now and live the rest of your life as a champion.'’ (Bernard Hopkins)
Mikkel Kessler in attendance.
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do they rematch in the semis
with a decision?
"After this, I'm gonna kick Bob Arum's ass."
-George Lopez
If Froch wins, they rematch next
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"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
Yeah?
Painful
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by Randy Loathsome on Nov 27, 2010 6:27 PM EST up reply actions
Although I wouldn't be shocked if everyone decides to change things up
Even though officially they should rematch. I can’t imagine anyone would think a rematch is the best thing to do, unless Abraham pulls a Librado Andrade here.
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yeah we'll see after this
Abraham might suffer a career-threatening injury in training.
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by Scott Christ on Nov 27, 2010 6:27 PM EST up reply actions
lol
I hated every minute of training, but I said, ‘’Don’t quit. Suffer now and live the rest of your life as a champion.'’ (Bernard Hopkins)
Ward has 7 points.
Abraham and Johnson have 3
Froch has 2
If Froch wins, he’ll be in second place. Abraham takes the tiebreaker over Johnson since he won more rounds on the cards.
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stay away Carl
dig him low, just like that!!
I hated every minute of training, but I said, ‘’Don’t quit. Suffer now and live the rest of your life as a champion.'’ (Bernard Hopkins)
Yes!!!! Then hit him when he slips!!!!
Muwaaahaaaa
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by Randy Loathsome on Nov 27, 2010 6:29 PM EST up reply actions
hahahaha :))
I hated every minute of training, but I said, ‘’Don’t quit. Suffer now and live the rest of your life as a champion.'’ (Bernard Hopkins)
Aha!
Abraham back to faking low blows. I swear, that guy’s scrotum must be up around his belly button.
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nasty thought, that!!
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by Randy Loathsome on Nov 27, 2010 6:29 PM EST up reply actions
They don't like it up 'em!!!
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by Randy Loathsome on Nov 27, 2010 6:30 PM EST up reply actions
Froch-Abraham R11
Froch whacking Abraham around the ring some more. Abraham still refusing to do anything offensively. Froch to the body, and FINALLY Abraham whines about it being low. The referee says no. Abraham has no spirit left whatsoever. None. He’s hardly even in the fight at this point. He’s doing nothing. Another body shot. Left by Froch to the head.
Froch 10-9
Froch 110-99
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those body shots
ouch
"After this, I'm gonna kick Bob Arum's ass."
-George Lopez
Carl Froch
come of age son
I hated every minute of training, but I said, ‘’Don’t quit. Suffer now and live the rest of your life as a champion.'’ (Bernard Hopkins)
bully him
I hated every minute of training, but I said, ‘’Don’t quit. Suffer now and live the rest of your life as a champion.'’ (Bernard Hopkins)
Now its a fight
"You can have the knowledge that a tomato is a fruit, but it takes wisdom not to put it in a fruit salad." Jerry Reynolds
Come on Abraham, you still have time to land an illegal shot!
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Evil Energy Drink?
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Froch-Abraham R12
Abraham with a right! Now he’s alive! What do you know! Froch getting TAGGED now! That one hurt him! Froch got sloppy, but then he tied up and is settling down now. Now Froch staying away from Abraham, and tying him up when he gets close. Carl Froch is…fighting smart. I said it. Now body shots and a right hand to the guard from Froch. Uppercut is blocked. Abraham trying to load up a big shot, but he’s only got 1:15 left, and he HAS to knock Froch out. Froch still throwing from outside, and frankly winning the round again even after Arthur hurt him early. Froch letting his hands go. Now he takes a clear rabbit shot swipe at Abraham — that was on purpose, let’s not lie. Left hand counter by Froch. Abraham with a big right! And the bell sounds.
Froch 10-9
Froch 120-108
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yeah, he got a nice 10 sec or so break from the rabbit punch
by Polish Rifle on Nov 27, 2010 6:35 PM EST up reply actions
i dont see how u would give abraham any of those rounds
"After this, I'm gonna kick Bob Arum's ass."
-George Lopez
I feel soooooo good.
Not only did I pick that the styles were right, but Carl must have listend to what I said. He did exactly what I said he needed to do!!! Woaaahh!!!!
Sorry, guys ;)
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by Randy Loathsome on Nov 27, 2010 6:34 PM EST reply actions
you and Brick really nailed it. Nice job.
Boxing writer: "Iran, what are you going to do when you retire?"
Iran Barkley: "Rob your house"
Cheers!
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by Randy Loathsome on Nov 27, 2010 6:38 PM EST up reply actions
I’m not buying the Froch hype, despite this dominant win. He is still slow and weak on fundamentals. Ward will dominate him, as would Bute.
Boxing writer: "Iran, what are you going to do when you retire?"
Iran Barkley: "Rob your house"
Possibly
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by Randy Loathsome on Nov 27, 2010 6:35 PM EST up reply actions
Agreed on both those counts
But he makes a lot of interesting fights still, and he’s still quite good.
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It's a beret, not a friggin berry!
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by Randy Loathsome on Nov 27, 2010 6:35 PM EST up reply actions
I thought Abraham won the last round
But way too little, too late.
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abraham should’ve tried to do what he did in the last round so much earlier… he would’ve knocked him out
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Fire Steve Addazio.
Woulda shoulda coulda
Didn’t.
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by Randy Loathsome on Nov 27, 2010 6:37 PM EST up reply actions
Career defining performance
No getting lucky in the last round/dodgy decisions
I hated every minute of training, but I said, ‘’Don’t quit. Suffer now and live the rest of your life as a champion.'’ (Bernard Hopkins)
so...
i wonder what the “injury” is gonna be that keeps aa out of the semis..i cant imagine showtime is gonna want to see that again
"After this, I'm gonna kick Bob Arum's ass."
-George Lopez
Good performance from Froch
Kind of a boring a fight with no resistance from AA, aside from the last round
"You can have the knowledge that a tomato is a fruit, but it takes wisdom not to put it in a fruit salad." Jerry Reynolds
One Word:WOW
I think Shannon Briggs had a better effort vs. Vitali than AA had against Froch,IMO,he needs to back out of this tourney
I think Shannon Briggs had a better effort vs. Vitali
That’s a stretch.
Boxing writer: "Iran, what are you going to do when you retire?"
Iran Barkley: "Rob your house"
AA threw more than Briggs, not that this is saying much
Boxing writer: "Iran, what are you going to do when you retire?"
Iran Barkley: "Rob your house"
Enough backing out of the tourney
Seriously.
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That makes up for the cricket!!!!
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by Randy Loathsome on Nov 27, 2010 6:36 PM EST reply actions
Official Scores
119-109
120-108
120-108
Carl Froch by unanimous decision
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What are the chances Froch mentions Kalle Sauerland moving the fight from Nottingham? Carl was brilliant – I’m absolutely delighted.
Such were the days, still, hot, heavy, disappearing one by one into the past, as if falling into an abyss for ever open in the wake of the ship; and the ship, lonely under a wisp of smoke, held on her steadwast way black and smouldering in a luminous immensity, as if scorched by a flame flicked at her from a heaven without pity.
by Oli Goldstein on Nov 27, 2010 6:37 PM EST via mobile reply actions
wonder what round was given to aa
"After this, I'm gonna kick Bob Arum's ass."
-George Lopez
probably the 12th
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by Scott Christ on Nov 27, 2010 6:38 PM EST up reply actions
The last one probably
"You can have the knowledge that a tomato is a fruit, but it takes wisdom not to put it in a fruit salad." Jerry Reynolds
thats what i was thinking
even tho i dont agree
"After this, I'm gonna kick Bob Arum's ass."
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by Eddie Gonzalez on Nov 27, 2010 6:38 PM EST up reply actions
be back later for ward bika… though that may be a stinker worse than this one
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Fire Steve Addazio.
We’re not doing Ward-Bika, we’re going with the HBO card.
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by Scott Christ on Nov 27, 2010 6:47 PM EST up reply actions
Spot the fuck ups!!! 
"Chris Eubank lost his recent comeback fight on points ... the main one being that he's a total git."
Froch is probably the best German fighter in the world today!
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by Scott Christ on Nov 27, 2010 6:50 PM EST up reply actions
That's desperate
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by Randy Loathsome on Nov 27, 2010 6:53 PM EST up reply actions
I’d happily claim Glen Johnson as a Brit!
"Chris Eubank lost his recent comeback fight on points ... the main one being that he's a total git."
I’ll trade you Arthur Abraham and Allan Green for him. Two-for-one!
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by Scott Christ on Nov 27, 2010 6:54 PM EST up reply actions
No chance!
I’d swap him if you can make Holyfield, RJJ and Tarver retire :P
"Chris Eubank lost his recent comeback fight on points ... the main one being that he's a total git."
Ward-Bika is on Showtime, JMM-Katsidis/Berto-Hernandez/Caballero-Litzau on HBO
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by Scott Christ on Nov 27, 2010 6:59 PM EST up reply actions
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