Mandatory Eight Count - WBC has officially jumped the shark
by Brickhaus on Nov 4, 2010 12:09 PM EDT
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Lemieux-Rubio ordered | Boxing Scene
In what looks like a pretty good step up, the WBC has ordered a title eliminator between David Lemieux and Marco Antonio Rubio. This seems to ignore that Rubio has already won a fight that was purported to be an eliminator, but whatever. Rubio would be the best opponent of Lemieux's career to date, and has a serious reach advantage as well as a good chin, so we might get a better chance to see how good Lemieux really is. No word on whether the winner would get to face champion Sergio Martinez, interim titlist Sebastian Zbik or "silver" titlist Julio Cesar Chavez Jr..
Other mandatories named at WBC convention | Fight News
All kinds of sillyness here, including the WBC electing that Pascal-Hopkins will be for a "diamond" belt, even though it's not a catchweight fight. The WBC also says that if Timothy Bradley beats Devon Alexander, they will not recognize him as their champion. Evidently, they're still really offended that after Bradley beat Kendall Holt to unify, they gave Bradley an unreasonably short time frame to defend against then-mandatory Alexander, and he dropped the belt rather than needing to get back in the ring within 90 days. Finally, the Hasegawa-Burgos winner will be named titlist, but will immediately need to face two mandatories thereafter (and possibly three, when "champion-in-recess" Elio Rojas recovers from surgery), the first against Jhonny Gonzalez and the second against the Justin Savi-Chonlatarn Pirapanyo winner.
James Kirkland back in jail; Dec. 11 comeback still on | ESPN
Junior middleweight James Kirkland is incarcerated again but should be released by the end of the week, co-manager Cameron Dunkin told ESPN.com on Wednesday. Dude needs to learn how to follow instructions. His parole officer dropped by the gym to check on him, but he wasn't there because he was supposedly getting a custom mouthpiece made, which was a parole violation.
HBO and the State of Boxing – Part One | Max Boxing
Thomas Hauser makes his annual rant on how HBO isn't really doing their job of bringing in the fights people actually want to see.
Ross Greenburg wants to make boxing mainstream again | LA Times
Indirectly firing back at Hauser, Greenburg says HBO went through this recent dead spell because he's learned that " the way to make solid fights is by not accepting mediocrity". Which is why they paid seven figures for Berto-Hernandez. He also says that the falling apart of negotiations between Floyd Mayweather Jr. and Manny Pacquiao has thrown the network for a loop, but at this point, Mayweather needs to clean up his legal woes before they'll revisit the issue.
Rafael Marquez recuperated and eager to battle Lopez | 411mania
Marquez says his thumb is now healed up and he's 100% ready to go against Lopez. He also recently said he thinks Lopez has a weak chin, and that his plan is to attack with combinations. Like Marquez has ever had a different plan.
Judah feels re-energized for return to light welterweight | USA Today
Judah says that mentally and physically, he feels the best he has in years. He also says his plan against the power punching Matthysse is to stick with his jab and try to set up some punches that Matthysse doesn't see coming. Matthysse has been preparing for the bout by sparring with middleweight champ Sergio Martinez.
Concerns raised over Green's next challenge | Brisbane Times
The Australian boxing authority have fined Paul Briggs AUS $75,000 for what was deemed to be a "sham contest" in his pretty blatant dive against Danny Green. Bookies, who called off all bets on the fight, applauded the result. The authority also expressed concern over the weight difference for Green's next fight, to come against BJ Flores, although Flores has given them assurances that he will be able to make weight.
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by Oli Goldstein on Nov 4, 2010 12:49 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I just don’t think you need to call Dan Rafael a ‘gossip-monger’ (or whatever you usually call him) or Thomas Hauser ‘arrogant’ every time their names pop up on the site. I dunno – I kinda get the picture now.
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by Oli Goldstein on Nov 4, 2010 1:49 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
Read all of my posts before you jump on me, pal. And I'll go after Rafael for gossip mongeriiing as long as I want or as long as BLH will allows me to. I still have issues with him for the way he jumped all over Mike Tyson
when Mike’s daughter died. And I have issues with him for the innuendo’s about Pavlik as nuch as I dislike Pavlik. That’s called putting a fire where there is smoke. I don’t care for that king of reporting or writing. It’s vicious. That’s my rationale and I stand by it.
As for Hauser, I do not worship at the alter of Tom Hauser. Nor do I worship at the alter of political correctness. I have likely read far more of what he has wriiten than you, particularly his political views which are puke-provoking. He is agreat writer of boxing, but not of other things and his personality is just plain putrid.
You know, it’s nice to be nice, but to be nice all the time is not REAL.
I don’t think anyone here “worships” Hauser (and certainly not Rafael), and it has nothing to do with political correctness. I don’t even know that anyone disagrees with your feelings on Hauser or Rafael. What OliGold is referring to is “lite trolling” — the feelings are known already, and a part of our user guidelines/rules agreement is asking that it not be done. The agreement was re-posted recently and is always available here:
http://www.badlefthook.com/pages/bad-left-hook-user-rules-and-guidelines
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by Scott Christ on Nov 4, 2010 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Rafael
tends to get bitchy about someone if they push in front of him at the all-you-can-eat-buffet.
He annoys me a bit with what comes across as arrogance sometimes (Doug Fisher is much worse,imo and i don’t even look at his stuff anymore-man,you would think these guys had been world champs the way they seem to take themselves soooo seriously:) but he does seem to have his finger on the pulse in regards to developments in potential fights and inside scoops.
If he doesn’t stop eating soon though his avatar is sure to explode.
I know how people feel about Rafael’s “arrogance,” and a lot of the time I do agree, but as Brick once said before, I’d probably be a bigger asshole if I had to deal with the type of readers he has to deal with constantly, too.
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
Fair point but then he shouldn’t run a twitter page asking for all and sundry to send there comments to him then should he?
Twitter is for girls anyway.
Their
I have never stooped so low as to send Mr Rafael abusive posts,honestly but then if i weighed what looks like pushing 300lbs,i would expect a few fat jokes.
Where i live i get the piss taken if i put a stone on. :)
My posts in this section are not meant seriously btw,although i really have gone off Doug Fisher.
I can see that Fischer is a shrewd observer but the thing that started to put me off was his seemingly personal disdain for Floyd Mayweather which saw him as the only well known pundit i could see who picked Mosley to beat him.
Fair enough if he really thought Shane could win but i got the impression it was more to do with him wanting to see Mayweather lose.
A professional writer in his position shouldn’t let personal dislike for a fighter cloud his judgement,imo.
Also,the way he tries to be cool (when he obvioulsy isn’t :) and uses the slang “bad ass” when describing a fighter really grinds my gears.
You can see my gripes against him have real substance. :)
Better than being the animal felcher
Bad Left Hook - The SB Nation boxing blog
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I completely agree with you Matt. I’ve spoken with him during the two Super Six matches here in Oakland and he is always insightful and very easy to talk to. That being said and as much as I like him as a person, I can’t stand his mailbags anymore. The hero worship of Valero and the absolute vilification of Mayweather was so troubling that I can’t even read the stuff anymore. Its almost like he goes into an Alpha Male journalism mode for these columns and is just a normal dude for everything else. Seemed to do an ok job announcing, maybe he just needs to change the career path a little.
"The bell that tolls for all in boxing belongs to a cash register."
-Bob Verdi
I imagine him to be a nice enough guy and they say people sometimes come across different on the internet,especially when it’s a personal thing like twitter,etc.
A lot of people say Amir Khan is a bit of an idiot on his twitter but then most people who meet him seem to like him.
The web seems to be a place where some of us sometimes like to let of some steam. :)
Nice one!!
Just off to the fridge myself… trouble is, I come in after a run, and go straight for the beer fridge.
Just read the terrible news that Adam Smith is to be Sky’s new “Head of Boxing”.
At first i thought this was a bad move but hopefully it might mean he now commentates less. :)
http://news.boxrec.com/news/2010/exclusive-adam-smith-set-become-sky-sports-head-boxing
Thanks for the link Matt
I wonder who they’ll use now? I actually used to like Paul Dempsy in the studio, but he never really sat ringside with Watt or Bazza did he…. more a studio dude.
HEY!
We have a Twitter page! It…syndicates our stories! And sometimes I say something @stevekim or the like.
I think he has the Twitter page because ESPN made him, honestly.
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
well, that pisses me off too
:)
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
Probably not THAT well
But better than the rest of us are.
Bad Left Hook - The SB Nation boxing blog
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to write about boxing anyway
Bad Left Hook - The SB Nation boxing blog
"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
If I woke up with Dan Rafael’s salary, I’d go test drive a Porsche. Then say it’s “not for me.”
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
I don't know
I just know that I’m not. But he works for ESPN, and he’s the only regular boxing contributor they have besides (the far superior, IMO) Kieran Mulvaney.
I should say now that I’ve never met these people and certainly have no personal grudge against any of them or anything like that.
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
on the web site, I mean
Obviously ESPN also has Teddy and Joe and BK.
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
As well he should be. I know we crack on him during FNF threads (“deep waters” and stuff), but Teddy is that rare broadcast that obviously deeply cares about boxing, knows what he’s talking about from a technical standpoint, AND can translate that to the viewing audience effectively.
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
That's Because He's Fundamentally a Teacher--
All good teachers repeat constantly, it’s how you drive the knowledge home, and it’s how you are taught to teach. I was taught to teach myself, and was raised by gangs of teachers, so the phenomenon is familiar to me. Most posters here really don’t need to be taught, so it understandably drives them bonkers, but FNF is sort of Boxing 101 for the general, non-premium channel population, which is huge in number, and where you go to maintain, maybe even grow, a fanbase. Cosell just irritated me beyond words growing up, but I trusted his eyesight and his foresight, and he taught me and my bro a lot—that kind of fight expertise is how kids in front of tvs learn, since their Dad may be working evenings. Believe me, Statenislandese notwithstanding, for decency, expertise, and dedication I’ll take Atlas every time.
If love would die along with death, this life wouldn't be so hard--Andrew Vachss
No journalist is that well paid
unless they’re getting revenue from other sources on the side. I’d be surprised if he makes six figures.
Bad Left Hook - The SB Nation boxing blog
"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
*writing journalist
Obviously, tv personalities get paid much more than writers.
Bad Left Hook - The SB Nation boxing blog
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Yes. That's why Max gets so much, but merchant also gets abundle for
his senile-like contributions. Amazing. I’d love to know what Manny gets.
I’m not sure anyone is anymore.
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
yeah, really
I hope it had his name or pictures of Finding Nemo characters or something.
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
Who was it recently that had the mouthpiece that looked like grillz?
I thought that was about the dumbest thing ever…
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Not Sure Anyone's Even Training the Guy
Ann Wolfe apparently (?) wouldn’t let him back, I can’t find info on a trainer.
If love would die along with death, this life wouldn't be so hard--Andrew Vachss
Apparently Paul Briggs complained about his fine.
The nerve of some people……………….
Two dodgy endings in a row to his fights does not look too good for Green either.
He didn’t hit Briggs at all and he hit Jones just a bit harder.
Punch was measured on the “feather fist” scale,you may not have heard of it.
Jones can’t take a punch for beans anymore and he did catch him in a bad spot, so I have no questions about that one. The Briggs “thing” was a complete farce and it is unlikely I can be convinced that Briggs didn’t take a dive, whether Green was in on it or not.
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"The authority also expressed concern over the weight difference for Green’s next fight, to come against BJ Flores, although Flores has given them assurances that he will be able to make weight. "
So is Flores going to be forced to make 185 as he’s fighting for Green’s World 185 pound title in the junior cruiserweight division?
I think the fight is at 200
I haven’t heard anything about this one being at a catchweight. I think they were just concerned that Flores is still well over the 200 pound mark.
Bad Left Hook - The SB Nation boxing blog
"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
He is a big guy. Big bones and lots of muscles. Interesting match up.
Flores is avery savvy fighters but Green is a very experienced one. The young guy vs. the older guy. Made for a movie—or article.
off-topic, but
Sparky Anderson passed away today.
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
I don't see what Hauser wrote as much of a rant--not at all.
Pretty accurate, IMO.
Hauser writes one of these once a year, it seems. Sadly, he has the ammunition every year. That’s the real issue.
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
I’d much prefer him to break stories individually than spew in this fashion, not because I lack an attention span (I just finished reading the whole damn thing), but because it’s easy to lose the gems in something like this. Hauser’s journalistic decisions are questionable, and he definitely has his favorites, but The Black Lights alone earns him a platinum ghetto pass from me.
Off topic, I noticed the remark about teddy Atlas..which,
leads me to Mike Tyson,
I watched a programe of his early fights recently, some of the Brits on here probably saw it too on ESPN classic.
I was amazed how polite and well mannered & well spoken he was with the
interviewers. I’d almost forgotten that Mike Tyson.
Complex being the word I often use to describe him too Ted
Superb pics of the bears by the way. Made me n the missus very jealous. Lovely place mate.
let me try putting it this way
Since I think our approach hasn’t been so great…
The reply function makes things much, much easier to follow for people coming in and reading after you’ve posted, and far easier to others to join the conversation, which is a big part of what our site is about. I don’t think it’s taken advantage of as well as it should be, that’s all, and I think if you get into the habit of using it, you’ll agree that it’s just a lot better than not using it.
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I understand Scott,
I do try to remember to use it too (honestly), though sometimes, I post a ‘reply’ and it still ends up way below the comment to which I am attepting to reply. Not sure why that is.
by Phill on Nov 4, 2010 7:29 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
If you’re on mobile when that happens, I’m not sure, but maybe Brick or someone who has used the site on mobile more than I have could tell you if there’s an issue there. Sometimes I confuse the two boxes (the one at the bottom still stays when I’m posting a reply) and I screw it up, too. It’s not the biggest thing in the world, of course, just something we’re trying to encourage. No worries!
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
If there have already been a lot of replies
Then it can end up pretty far below, but you can follow it by either clicking the “up” button at the bottom (which will take you to the post you replied to) or by looking at how far out the posts start horizontally.
Bad Left Hook - The SB Nation boxing blog
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Did you delete my reply to this?
Most fight fans would not spend a dime to watch Van Gogh paint 'Sunflowers', but they would fill Yankee Stadium to see him cut off his ear. (Bill Nack)
No
Bad Left Hook - The SB Nation boxing blog
"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
I wrote pretty much what you did.
But it’s gone. :/
Most fight fans would not spend a dime to watch Van Gogh paint 'Sunflowers', but they would fill Yankee Stadium to see him cut off his ear. (Bill Nack)
Rubio is made to order for the Canadian bomber. He is a stand-up fighter who often fights off the ropes.
If he does this with Lemuiex, he will be slaughtered. Rubio is alot like Ayala. Good chin and all, but this Canadian has real bricks in his gloves.
I think Lemieux takes Rubio out in three or four rounds. Rubio was beaten into submission by Pavlik and by the end of that, he honestly looked like he wanted to cry. That’s not me being snarky or knocking him, he was overwhelmed by what Pavlik did to him, and I truly believe Lemieux hits harder than Pavlik, and that the David Lemieux of today fights with a lot more confidence than that Kelly Pavlik did.
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
How Right You Are.
Rubio, decimated under 3. Probably 1.
If love would die along with death, this life wouldn't be so hard--Andrew Vachss
WBC ordered fight for interim silver belt between
Brickhaus you forgot Chris Henry vs Adrian Diaconu WBC Silver Belt light-heavyweight in March 12
Yeah, there are a bunch of them
The first Diaconu-Henry fight was a good one, so I have no complaints about a rematch.
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