Bad Left Hook Live Boxing Results and Commenatry: Zab Judah v. Lucas Matthysse
Tonight at 11:15pm EDT (after Pacquiao-Margarito 24/7), HBO Boxing After Dark presents a double-header from the Prudential Center in Newark. In the main event, which we should be able to cover after the Showtime card ends in the other thread, Zab Judah makes his official return to junior welterweight against powerful Lucas Matthysse. In the co-feature, lightweight contenders Robert Guerrero and Vicente Escobedo do battle.
Note: Coverage, scoring and commentary of the Showtime card is here. We'll switch over to this post for the Judah-Matthysse bout.
| ZAB JUDAH "Super" |
LUCAS MATTHYSSE |
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| Record: | 39-6 (27 KO) | Record: | 27-0 (25 KO) |
| Age: | 33 | Age: | 28 |
| Hometown: | Brooklyn, New York | Hometown: | Trelew, Argentina |
| Height: | 5'7½" | Height: | 5'10" |
| Reach: | 72" | Reach: | 72" |
| Ranks/Titles: | Bad Left Hook #7, ESPN #5, BoxRec #20 | Ranks/Titles: | BoxRec #16 |
| TV: | HBO - 11:15pm EDT | Venue: |
Prudential Center - Newark, NJ |
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no Showtime for me so its BAD tonight
intro is starting..
Guerrero/Escobedo Round 1
Both fighters are feeling each other out early. Guerrero is aggressive tonight, landing a good straight left that stuns Escobedo. Both fighters heads collide. Guerrero stalks a bleeding Escobedo. Guerrero is landing right hooks to the body. Escobedo finally begins throwing counter shots but Guerrero easily takes the round with the hooks to the body.
10-9 Guerrero
Round 2
Slow start to the round. Escobedo is coming out more aggressively this round, but Guerrero continues to land the hook to the body. Fighters clinch up. Robert Guerrero is looking much better than the Casamayor fight here. Guerrero lands a good shot to the body of Escobedo, who clinches up. Post round, both corners instruct their fights to throw a hook when the opponent comes inside.
10-9 Guerrero
Round 3
Escobedo comes toward Guerrero throwing and Guerrero lands a BIG HOOK and left and Escobedo is down to his knees! Escobedo up at eight and looking okay, but he needs to make an adjustment. Escobedo is finding success with his right. Bid shot to the body again by Guerrero, but Escobedo still fighting with spirit. Good fight so far.
10-8 Guerrero
30-26 Guerrero
Round 4
Escobedo’s corner wants him to counter Guerrero’s lunging body shots with an uppercut. Guerrero not as aggressive early and Escobedo is finding more success with body shots. Fight has slowed here with Guerrero laying off some. Good right from Escobedo and he follows with a left hook. Good round for Escobedo. Guerrero abandoned the body shots in that round.
10-9 Escobedo
Round 5
Good hook from Escobedo early. Fighters appear to bang heads and Escobedo goes down, ref rules it a slip. Escobedo looks to be cut from the clash of heads. Escobedo is protecting his body better and lands a good combo on Guerrero. Good straight left hand by Guerrero wobbles Escobedo! Escobedo is in trouble on the ropes! Escobedo goes down near the corner but the ref rules it a slip. Ref starts again and Guerrero is looking to finish. Ref separates the fighters, Guerrero lays off and the round ends. Commentators seem to think that Escobedo went down instead of slipping.
10-9 Guerrero
Round 6
BIG UPPERCUT by Guerrero drops Escobedo! Escobedo smiles and stands, looking okay. Very similar start to round 3 in that Escobedo was aggessive early and dropped by Guerrero. Escobedo lands a good shot to the body. Guerrero is looking very good here.
10-8 Guerrero
thanks!
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by Scott Christ on Nov 6, 2010 11:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Coming to this dead Newark crowd after the Showtime audience is…amazing.
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Glad I stayed home instead of going to Newark
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Round 7
Escobedo’s corner wants him to keep his left up to counter the big right uppercut/hooks of Guerrero. Guerrero is aggressive and Escobedo is content to counter. Good body shot by Escobedo. Lederman saying that Escobedo spends too much time bobbing and weaving and not throwing. Escobedo just doesn’t seem to have a way to stop a body shot. Good exchange by both fighters to close the round.
10-9 Guerrero
So I’m gathering this has basically been all Guerrero.
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by Scott Christ on Nov 6, 2010 11:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Escobedo has had his moments and is really game here
but Guerrero is so much better than the Casamayor fight. Landing big hooks to the body all night and a sweet uppercut.
Hello HBO thread
Boxing writer: "Iran, what are you going to do when you retire?"
Iran Barkley: "Rob your house"
Yeah, that Papa is in Seattle to do the Seahawks game
Michael Robinson leads the Seahawks in completion percentage, yards-per-attempt, and QB rating.
I prefer Lampley ♥ Zab
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by Scott Christ on Nov 6, 2010 11:57 PM EDT up reply actions
this is putting me to sleep already.
packing it in
"Newspapermen ask dumb questions. They look up at the sun and ask if it is shining."
-Sonny Liston
more sarcasm?
Boxing writer: "Iran, what are you going to do when you retire?"
Iran Barkley: "Rob your house"
That's exactly what I did
If love would die along with death, this life wouldn't be so hard--Andrew Vachss
Man, even the commentary is less involved and more bored on HBO. Tonight, Showtime for the clear win. And Tarver > RJJ?
Showtime has kicked HBO’s ass hard for two straight years. It hasn’t been close. Almost everything is better.
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by Scott Christ on Nov 7, 2010 12:00 AM EDT up reply actions
HBO has to blow up their boxing coverage
It’s stale. Really stale.
Michael Robinson leads the Seahawks in completion percentage, yards-per-attempt, and QB rating.
That ring looks SMALLLLLLLLL!!!!!
Most fight fans would not spend a dime to watch Van Gogh paint 'Sunflowers', but they would fill Yankee Stadium to see him cut off his ear. (Bill Nack)
The crowd is so into it
that they’re waving and looking at themselves on the big screen instead of watching the fight
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"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
I know
I was there for the last Adamek fight, but the people in the front 6 or 7 rows can certainly see the fight better by looking straight ahead.
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"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
Speaking of Adamek
There he is in the third row
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Nobody likes coming to the arena to find that their seats have views obscured by a pole.
by Verklemptomaniac on Nov 7, 2010 12:06 AM EDT up reply actions
I know I’m coming in late, but this commentary is just such a horrific and smug step down from the Showtime card. It can’t be just me. But they’re sitting here just sort of making fun of a guy who’s bleeding all over and fighting his ass off going for a knockout.
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And none of them sound like they could give half a shit less.
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by Scott Christ on Nov 7, 2010 12:06 AM EDT up reply actions
I agree
Boxing writer: "Iran, what are you going to do when you retire?"
Iran Barkley: "Rob your house"
Lampley needs to hang it up
Who they’d replace him with I don’t know.
Michael Robinson leads the Seahawks in completion percentage, yards-per-attempt, and QB rating.
Steve Albert only occasionally works for Showtime now thanks to terrible Gus Johnson. See about poaching him.
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by Scott Christ on Nov 7, 2010 12:07 AM EDT up reply actions
Charlie Steiner?
Although it’s been years since he called boxing
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"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
He can’t possibly be less engaging or enthusiastic than Lampley. Shit, I’d rather Papa be the #1 guy on HBO. Lampley is beyond on autopilot these days.
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by Scott Christ on Nov 7, 2010 12:09 AM EDT up reply actions
He's also developed a high horse sense of commentary
See: Yordan/Caballeros (or whatever that fight was).
Michael Robinson leads the Seahawks in completion percentage, yards-per-attempt, and QB rating.
Hell
Bob Costas isn’t a boxing announcer by trade, but I bet he’d do a better job at this point, and he also has an HBO contract.
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I think he did Cotto/Jennings recently
He just hasn’t done boxing consistently.
Michael Robinson leads the Seahawks in completion percentage, yards-per-attempt, and QB rating.
they were dead all the way through
even with the knockdowns and a pretty good Round 3. it sounds like directors commentary or something. bleh.
Well, the three rounds I saw I gave to Escobedo...
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yeah he won the last three
Guerrero seemed to tire some wasn’t nearly as aggressive…Escobedo pretty much allowed Guerrero to stalk him every round till the 8th
Guerrero-Escobedo Scores
100-88
98-90
96-92
ROBERT GUERRERO by unanimous decision
I saw three full rounds and Escobedo won them all. What do you know, Eugenia Williams’ card sucks again.
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good showing from Guerrero
though he abandoned the right hook late and had a few moments earlier in the fight when he could have pushed more to possibly finish Escobedo.
RJJ’s analysis:
Judah’s doing well because he has gotten rid of
-all the gold
-all the diamonds
-all the bling-bing
Has added
-giving himself to the Lord
That’s some boxing analysis.
haha
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by Scott Christ on Nov 7, 2010 12:17 AM EDT up reply actions
I don’t think Williams has an incredible chin… Martinez floored him and Cintron was rocking him before the fiasco…
Officially boycotting Pacquiao vs. Margarito.
Fire Steve Addazio.
“Let’s go to Michael Buffer! Oh…no?”
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Oh, I didn’t know Ortiz-Harris only went one round. Good to know!!
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… is he walking out to a reggaeton remix of the Rocky theme?
by Verklemptomaniac on Nov 7, 2010 12:18 AM EDT reply actions
You can really tell Zab accepted Jesus Christ as his personal Lord and saviour
Officially boycotting Pacquiao vs. Margarito.
Fire Steve Addazio.
I thought he was a Black Jew…
"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."
What the fuck.
did he just attack that paper.
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by Scott Christ on Nov 7, 2010 12:21 AM EDT up reply actions
I am actually longing for the Synth Rocky music
Officially boycotting Pacquiao vs. Margarito.
Fire Steve Addazio.
Good thing he doesn’t have one more belt, or he’d need to have another kid.
by Verklemptomaniac on Nov 7, 2010 12:22 AM EDT reply actions
Zab kept his RING belt after he lost it…
"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."
Well, you’re allowed to keep the belt itself. You just shouldn’t show it off before fights, when you no longer hold it.
That’s the new fun thing. Everyone just walks around with every belt they’ve ever won.
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by Scott Christ on Nov 7, 2010 12:24 AM EDT up reply actions
"and Super Judah Promotions"
can we stop this
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I'll say this
I’m definitely not as confident in Zab as I was earlier this week.
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This is going to be a very dumb question, but can an Argentine fight for the North American Championship Belt?
Officially boycotting Pacquiao vs. Margarito.
Fire Steve Addazio.
it's boxing
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by Scott Christ on Nov 7, 2010 12:24 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I honestly did not realise Judah had beaten Micky Ward.
Like Chris John beating JMM, some of these things just pass me by…..
Most fight fans would not spend a dime to watch Van Gogh paint 'Sunflowers', but they would fill Yankee Stadium to see him cut off his ear. (Bill Nack)
Oh Lord, Max calling Zab fight
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by Scott Christ on Nov 7, 2010 12:26 AM EDT up reply actions
The last guy Judah fought with a rat-tail knocked Zab the FUCK OUT!!
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"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."
Chris Arreola?
Michael Robinson leads the Seahawks in completion percentage, yards-per-attempt, and QB rating.
Judah-Matthysse R1

Lampley immediately reveals he knows less about Matthysse than some asshole who runs a blog. Looks like a decent-sized crowd, but it is d-e-a-d dead. Nice right by Judah. Matthysse maybe a tad more active, but not landing much clean. Straight left from Zab to the chest. Now they come together, tie up, and almost fall down.
Judah 10-9
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I really hate this commentary. Coming right after the Albert/Bernstein/Tarver booth, I simply cannot get over it.
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by Scott Christ on Nov 7, 2010 12:29 AM EDT up reply actions
10-9 Zab
He trained 2 weeks for the Baldomir fight? Cripes.
by Verklemptomaniac on Nov 7, 2010 12:29 AM EDT reply actions
Lampley is in permanent pissed off mode
HBO shall now be known as “Grumpy Old Men”
Michael Robinson leads the Seahawks in completion percentage, yards-per-attempt, and QB rating.
Couldn't they find him some shorts that fit? FFS
Most fight fans would not spend a dime to watch Van Gogh paint 'Sunflowers', but they would fill Yankee Stadium to see him cut off his ear. (Bill Nack)
After watching Juanma and Rafa this is waaaaaay to slow for me
Officially boycotting Pacquiao vs. Margarito.
Fire Steve Addazio.
It would if you hated Zab Judah
Michael Robinson leads the Seahawks in completion percentage, yards-per-attempt, and QB rating.
DeMarcus Corley gave Maidana a run. But then Zab is Zab. So who the fuck knows
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by Scott Christ on Nov 7, 2010 12:33 AM EDT up reply actions
Judah-Matthysse R2

I like how the HBO graphic says “L. Matthysse” and “Judah,” as if there is a mass of folks who may confuse him with the well-known and great Walter Matthysse. Why not “Z. Judah”? What if I think that’s Daniel? Anyways…
Crowd is starting to boo the fight halfway into another tentative round. Matthysse is shooting heavy shots at the body, but that’s about it. Judah is kind of just standing there this round. He’s flicking a jab, but not really landing it. According to Lampley and Jones, fans have no clue about anything about Matthysse. You know, because they’re both so familiar with him.
Matthysse 10-9
19-19
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Now Jim Lampley is going to wax reminiscent about Vince Lombardi and Bart Starr. Jesus.
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by Scott Christ on Nov 7, 2010 12:34 AM EDT up reply actions
the theme of this fight
better not be the crowd’s discontent. STFU Lampley and Co.
Lederman has it down pat for me
Most fight fans would not spend a dime to watch Van Gogh paint 'Sunflowers', but they would fill Yankee Stadium to see him cut off his ear. (Bill Nack)
"If he's such a big banger, I wish he'd let one go so we can see what he's got"
Well said, Harold.
Most fight fans would not spend a dime to watch Van Gogh paint 'Sunflowers', but they would fill Yankee Stadium to see him cut off his ear. (Bill Nack)
starting to heat up a bit
Boxing writer: "Iran, what are you going to do when you retire?"
Iran Barkley: "Rob your house"
nice counter by Jab
and….wtf was that at the end of the round
Judah-Matthysse R3

Crowd booing for the third time. They’re booing because the fight isn’t entertaining. Let’s not be nice for niceness’ sake or blame it on mass fan ignorance of Lucas Matthysse. Simply put this fight is overly tentative and dull from both sides.
Matthysse is really targeting the body with his right hand. Judah is just not letting anything go. At all. Left hook to the body by Matthysse. Power punches landed this round: Judah 0. 0. Judah is doing NOTHING. THERE IT IS! Judah with a nice, hard left hand. Finally he wakes up a bit. Another one gets in. And those two punches, those two punches, are enough to win the round.
Judah 10-9
Judah 29-28
Judah complaining about something after the round. I TOLD YOU MAN
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what was the Matthyse comment by lampley?
"After this, I'm gonna kick Bob Arum's ass."
-George Lopez
i know im late.. but
am i the only one whos thinking zab may have over trained? this is a real lack of activity
"After this, I'm gonna kick Bob Arum's ass."
-George Lopez
Judah-Matthysse R4

Lederman gave that round to Matthysse. Fair enough.
Left to the body by Zab, then he misses one upstairs. Judah is picking up his pace just a little. Matthysse really is throwing some very hard stuff to the body. It’s not landing clean as much as he’d like, but there’s legitimate zip on those punches. Judah’s bleeding near his left eye. Crowd booing some more. Matthysse continues to target the body. Three jabs from Zab. Body shot by Matthysse. And another. And another, but then a left form Judah, and Matthysse right back with a body shot.
Matthysse 10-9
38-38
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Is this scheduled for 12?
Most fight fans would not spend a dime to watch Van Gogh paint 'Sunflowers', but they would fill Yankee Stadium to see him cut off his ear. (Bill Nack)
Indeed. The renowned NABO North American International Intercontinential Oceanic Title is on the line.
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by Scott Christ on Nov 7, 2010 12:43 AM EDT up reply actions
It's also an IBF #2 eliminator if Kaizer Mabuza is correct
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when isn't he?
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by Scott Christ on Nov 7, 2010 12:45 AM EDT up reply actions
o ok
im so happy theres a title for every fight now a days…
"After this, I'm gonna kick Bob Arum's ass."
-George Lopez
by Eddie Gonzalez on Nov 7, 2010 12:44 AM EDT up reply actions
yeah, just like “Regular” Judah would do fine
Officially boycotting Pacquiao vs. Margarito.
Fire Steve Addazio.
I disagree. He needs to up the ante and go with Zab "super-DUPER' Judah.
Boxing writer: "Iran, what are you going to do when you retire?"
Iran Barkley: "Rob your house"
Why do I feel like I'm watching Junior Witter instead of Zab Judah?
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Judah-Matthysse R5

Judah looks so lethargic. Or disinterested. Or Judah. Whatever. He’s not as quick as you’d expect, not as active, not as willing to let his hands go. He seems to fear Matthysse’s power. Matthysse continues to land more effective shots. Judah continues to let himself down. Judah clips him with a left, then gets closer on a second one. Lampley praises that he simply threw a couple. But he did do better work this round.
Judah 10-9
Judah 48-47
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Judah 50 to head, 8 to body
Matthysse 7 to head, 47 to body
Weird.
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Lampley’s comparison to a game between a pass-first and a smashmouth football team is on-point, though. And like those games often do, this fight stinks.
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by Scott Christ on Nov 7, 2010 12:46 AM EDT up reply actions
all this hype for judah
and blaaaah in the ring.. we’ve seen this before
"After this, I'm gonna kick Bob Arum's ass."
-George Lopez
It would be nice if either fighter throw more than one punch at a time
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I am going to mail it in… i am going to look at box scores…
"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."
aaaaaaaaand...
I’m done watching this. See y’all later.
If I wake up tomorrow and see that the world has ended, then that means God has finally granted my prayers.
GO Armageddon!!!
Judah-Matthysse R6

This is the same round over and over. Hey! Matthysse lands a decent shot to the jaw. Matthysse is taking over this round. Judah has thrown a total of 3 fucking power punches this round. There’s one. And it was blocked. They come together, and Judah’s right hook meets Matthysse’s body shot.
Matthysse 10-9
57-57
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Place is more full than I thought it would be
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that
"After this, I'm gonna kick Bob Arum's ass."
-George Lopez
by Eddie Gonzalez on Nov 7, 2010 12:50 AM EDT up reply actions
HBO teams — all of them — have it drilled into them to have a narrative rather than call the action. I cannot explain it without just assuming this is the network’s training.
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by Scott Christ on Nov 7, 2010 12:51 AM EDT up reply actions
What fight is Judah's corner watching?
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Regardless of result, this is going to disprove Judah as among the top light welterweights on any scale. Jim, you know why Lucas’ eye looks unmarked? Because it’s barely been hit.
Plus shot to hell Viv Harris is still a much bigger puncher than Zab
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i think itl get him fights
because if THIS is what he brings at 140 hes beyond beatable..
why wouldnt one of the contenders take the fight with judah, who still has some name value
"After this, I'm gonna kick Bob Arum's ass."
-George Lopez
by Eddie Gonzalez on Nov 7, 2010 12:52 AM EDT up reply actions
o.. ok roy and jim
so doing nothing equals “being smart”
cool, glad we got that covered
"After this, I'm gonna kick Bob Arum's ass."
-George Lopez
Judah-Matthysse R7

Since I’m now convinced this is going all 12, I’m terrified of the scores. It feels to me like Matthysse has imposed his will so much more effectively, and it hasn’t even been that effective. Matthysse lands a right to the head. Maybe he overtrained, maybe he’s just not all that good anymore, but Zab is not the fighter of hype anymore. His hands look much slower than they used to, and he’s just not doing much in there. The Judah corner, which last year compared him to Arturo Gatti, tells him not to worry about the crowd, which hates this fight.
Matthysse 10-9
Matthysse 67-66
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I thought Judah took the last one
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Flashes of old Judah for a few seconds there
And now it’s just back to old fart Judah
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its like if you headbutt him
you turn him off
neither guy has given me a reason to believe they can do anything of relevance at 140
"After this, I'm gonna kick Bob Arum's ass."
-George Lopez
Meet Victor Ortiz's next opponent, Zab Judah
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You got that right.
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by Scott Christ on Nov 7, 2010 12:56 AM EDT up reply actions
i lold
"After this, I'm gonna kick Bob Arum's ass."
-George Lopez
by Eddie Gonzalez on Nov 7, 2010 12:57 AM EDT up reply actions
This thread is always a great read when people are pissed off
Michael Robinson leads the Seahawks in completion percentage, yards-per-attempt, and QB rating.
Judah-Matthysse R8

Uh oh, Zab’s alive! A couple of terrific left hands. Then Judah complains about head butts again. And now what the hell is he doing? Zab’s got his crying face on and has to be all but dragged back into the fight by the referee. Long right by Matthysse misses. Jones “doesn’t want to talk about” his last fight with Hopkins. Neither does anyone else.
And since the crying face, Judah has gone back to nothing. Well there’s a left, but still one at a time. Matthysse makes a couple charges but can’t do much with Zab.
Judah 10-9
76-76
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RT @danrafaelespn 8 rounds done and Zab seems to be winning easily
ehhh
"After this, I'm gonna kick Bob Arum's ass."
-George Lopez
Dan ignores body shots
Over time, I’ve figured out that’s why his scoring often seems to wacky to me.
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This would have been a FOTM candidate in October
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Matthyse round. I have him winning
Boxing writer: "Iran, what are you going to do when you retire?"
Iran Barkley: "Rob your house"
Judah-Matthysse R9

Good right by Matthysse about halfway into the round. Most of this round has been referee highlighted. Matthysse with more long blows. I don’t think he has a whole lot on those anymore, but then I’m not the one being hit. Matthysse still landing more than Judah. Judah misses a right hook and a left.
Matthysse 10-9
Matthysse 86-85
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Is anyone really winning rounds in this fight? Or is the other guy just losing them?
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Matthysse round for me
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Listening to Max pretend he knows anything about Kaizer Mabuza is kind of funny
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Hah! Fuck Zab!
Boxing writer: "Iran, what are you going to do when you retire?"
Iran Barkley: "Rob your house"
Ch, ch, ch, chicken dance!!!!!
Boxing writer: "Iran, what are you going to do when you retire?"
Iran Barkley: "Rob your house"
i was JUST about to change it
"After this, I'm gonna kick Bob Arum's ass."
-George Lopez
Just makes me think of that Paul Mooney bit
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Excuse me
Cedric the Entertainer
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Judah-Matthysse R10

ZAB HURT AND DOWN! There are just under two minutes left in the round and Zab is all tongue hanging out. Judah’s hurt. Matthysse pouring it on! Judah can’t escape him! Judah is desperate. BIG LEFT HOOK! Judah could be in trouble again! Nah, he took that one pretty well. Good left by Zab, but Matthysse flings one back. Matthysse hunting, but not being totally reckless or anything. Judah will survive the round fairly well.
Matthysse 10-8
Matthysse 96-93
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Not even a clean punch. That had a lot of smoke on it.
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it weird
I thought Matthysse was losing zip on his punches, particularly the hooks, but that straight right is like a 100 mph fastball
If there's some hometown judging
He could still be up at this point. But he’ll need the 12th to win.
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Well there goes my BB picks game season
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Similar to the Baldomir fight in many ways.
Boxing writer: "Iran, what are you going to do when you retire?"
Iran Barkley: "Rob your house"
Judah-Matthysse R11

Matthysse firing! He’s head hunting in a big way. There’s a left to the body. Matthysse lands again. Judah is not doing anything. He’s scared of Matthysse. There’s no getting around it. Another right gets in. And another! That one thudded. Judah not throwing, just walking and eventually trying to hold on.
Left hand by Judah, then he throws a couple more shots, those blocked. DOWN GOES JUDAH — ruled a push, couldn’t tell. A punch was thrown. Snapping jab by Matthysse. Combination from Matthysse! Judah is reeling in a major way. Matthysse tearing into him, body and head. Finally the commentators have come alive. Another good right hand! Judah is no longer mentally in this fight.
Matthysse 10-9
Matthysse 106-102
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And Judah’s corner starts telling him what they should have been telling him four rounds ago.
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Solid round for Matthysse, borderline 10-8 without a knockdown
The push probably should have been called a knockdown even
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I was about to say
HBO got the graphic wrong and said Lederman thought Zab won the 11th
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Mathyse making the mistake of looking for one punch, he's just gotta throw punches
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I am so glad I stuck with this fight.
by John Nash on Nov 7, 2010 1:12 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
If it was even going into the last round, Matthysse wins it.
by Verklemptomaniac on Nov 7, 2010 1:13 AM EDT reply actions
Zab is wishing Eugenia Williams was in New Jersey instead of Las Vegas right about now
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Judah-Matthysse R12

Matthysse still stalking. Judah is a bit more active, though, and at least is even through the first half of the round. Zab stumbling around. Matthysse pressing again. Matthysse still throwing in combination. Judah is scared to throw first. Judah with a left, best punch he’s landed in a while. 30 seconds to go in a likely razor-thin fight. Matthysse firing and firing.
10-10
Matthysse 116-112
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Lederman scores it 114-113 for Matthysse.
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i think they give it to zab
even tho i think zab lost
"After this, I'm gonna kick Bob Arum's ass."
-George Lopez
I liked this fight, and I think we all sounded too much like haters in this thread. A very good fight.
which Matthyse won.
Boxing writer: "Iran, what are you going to do when you retire?"
Iran Barkley: "Rob your house"
A very good fight.
I think that is an incredible overestimation of a fight that ended semi-dramatically and was miserable for at least the first half.
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Maybe a slight exagerration, but I still think you all were hating on this.
Boxing writer: "Iran, what are you going to do when you retire?"
Iran Barkley: "Rob your house"
I was hating on it because it sucked.
Bad Left Hook
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And I think this fight deserves far better than "it sucked."
Boxing writer: "Iran, what are you going to do when you retire?"
Iran Barkley: "Rob your house"
though the decision did
Boxing writer: "Iran, what are you going to do when you retire?"
Iran Barkley: "Rob your house"
The first half of the fight really, really sucked. The last four rounds were decent and sort of dramatic, but I just watched Lopez-Marquez. That was a “very good” or great fight. This was not even remotely close to that level. Neither of these guys did all that much effectively. If this fight was good, Lopez-Marquez was unlike anything ever seen.
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I'm with you here
I had just got in froma heavy night on the sauce, ready for my pillow, and Lopez/Marquez woke me right the fuck up. Then Super Judah and the Kostya Tszyu wannabe put me to sleep (hence the end of my interaction in this thread about halfway through, when my head just dropped onto my chest….)
Most fight fans would not spend a dime to watch Van Gogh paint 'Sunflowers', but they would fill Yankee Stadium to see him cut off his ear. (Bill Nack)
That’s what people say about Transformers 2. Shit blew up!
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ha. missed that one – must’ve been watching Power Rangers before T-ball practice that day.
"Yes Gina, I am a Wise Cracker"
You were playing t-ball last year???
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You’re out of the loop, alright. (I don’t know what that’s supposed to mean.)
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didn’t know transformers was a movie, much less that there were two of them. I did follow the tv show….back when I was playing t-ball, circa 1988 or ’89.
"Yes Gina, I am a Wise Cracker"
I’m now curious about how you spend your time. Do you do a lot of hiking or something? These were two of the biggest movies of the last few years. They made tons of money. Frankly I think you’re better for not knowing these piece of shit movies existed, but it’s just odd to me that you did not hear of these enormous summer blockbuster movies.
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by Scott Christ on Nov 7, 2010 12:53 PM EST up reply actions
It got much better in the last four rounds
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I think its a combo of terrible commentating
and Judah being so cautious. I liked it well enough.
Well, everyone check your watches. It’s horseshit o’clock.
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Hmm, my watch seems to have stopped…
by John Nash on Nov 7, 2010 1:17 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Draw
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knew it
"After this, I'm gonna kick Bob Arum's ass."
-George Lopez
don't like it
can’t say “straight up robbery” – but I thought Mathysse won the fight.
"Yes Gina, I am a Wise Cracker"
so from here
zab gets a fight he doesnt deserve…
chalk it up
"After this, I'm gonna kick Bob Arum's ass."
-George Lopez
it's going to be Victor Ortiz
If Zab has the nards.
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Judah-Matthysse official scores
114-113 Matthysse
114-113 Judah
114-113 Judah
Zab Judah by split decision
Well, what can you do.
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Zab's so fragile
and I don’t dislike Zab, but whenever he gets in a fight he loses.
"Yes Gina, I am a Wise Cracker"
Hahahahahahahaha
I can only laugh. Boxing amazes me.
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Max: Congratulations on a gutty win, Zab.
Crowd: booo.
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
pretty much spells it out.
Boxing writer: "Iran, what are you going to do when you retire?"
Iran Barkley: "Rob your house"
Jesus hates the fans
Michael Robinson leads the Seahawks in completion percentage, yards-per-attempt, and QB rating.
Wait was this a Neutral Milk Hotel reference?
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
dunno what that is either. SC I am not on the same wave length as you tonite. I googled it – it’s a band?
I was just channelling my inner southern baptist as Zab thanked our one and only true Savior Jesus Christ our Lord who lives…….and loves Zab.
"Yes Gina, I am a Wise Cracker"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4avoEbGjYu0
About 2:22 in is the part I was thinking of.
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by Scott Christ on Nov 7, 2010 12:55 PM EST up reply actions
Well, that left a turf on a great night of fights.
by John Nash on Nov 7, 2010 1:20 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
God is great Zab, God is great
or GodS are great, seeing as how it is Diwali.
"Yes Gina, I am a Wise Cracker"
And folks, this is why its better to be a good boxer than a good puncher
A good boxer can get his punches off because of his skill set and dominate just on boxing alone. While a good puncher either needs a guy to make a mistake or just get lucky to land a big shot.
Zab cannot setup his power punch, left hand. He needs to learn and box to setup his power punches instead of just throwing one hard punch at a time.
I don’t really get it. I’m not sure either guy fits into either of those categories.
"Yes Gina, I am a Wise Cracker"
I just was making the point how Zab wasn’t able to get his power punch off because of his lack of boxing skills to be able to setup that power punch up. He needs a guy to run into it, he cant set it up how a true boxer can set up their power punches.
Just wanted to stop by to say I thought the decision was garbage and Judah lost by at least 4 points.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Nov 7, 2010 1:21 AM EDT reply actions
(Boxing Equivalent to Cecil Peoples):Being accurate and powerful doesn't win fights.
Michael Robinson leads the Seahawks in completion percentage, yards-per-attempt, and QB rating.
I had him losing by 3
But I don’t think there’s any way he won that fight. Matthysse clearly won 6 rounds, plus the knockdown.
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Good night all
Hope this fight plus Daylight Savings Time will make you sleep realllllly long.
Michael Robinson leads the Seahawks in completion percentage, yards-per-attempt, and QB rating.
Good job Max, diss Pacquiao's next fight two weeks before your network is going to charge $60 a pop for it
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excuse me, one week
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In trying to build up Williams-Martinez II
He actually cut it down pretty hard
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You can fight bums for a long time
Fight bums
For a long time
Fight bums
For a long time
Sooner or later Max’ll cut you down
Sooner or later Max’ll
Cut you down
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by Scott Christ on Nov 7, 2010 12:57 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I think if you tally up the scorecards from round 1, Judah might actually did win the fight, technically. But if this was a fight on the street and people made a decision on who won the fight AFTER it was over, Zab clearly loss.
Zab won, technically on points, but he physically loss this fight. Zab got beat up, Matthysee didn’t.

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