Video Hype: Antonio Margarito and Brandon Rios Make Fun of Parkinson's Disease
by Scott Christ on Nov 10, 2010 2:31 AM EST
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PrintUpdate (12:15am EST): You will notice if you attempt to play the video below that it is now "private." The video has apparently been taken down. I don't want to jump to any conclusions about that, and don't know if that decision came from the Margarito camp or the original uploader of the video or what. Nothing I say below has changed, though. It still happened.
Update (12:21am EST): Re-linked the video, but this one has been edited to make it appear as though Margarito is doing a "scared" impression of Roach. Brandon Rios' impression of Roach, which couldn't be covered up or turned into something it's not, has been entirely removed.
Update (2:31am EST): Here is the original, unedited video.
Update (11:22amEST): Video pulled at the request of the copyright owners.
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You know, I just posted something below this entry about how much I've hated this fight's marketing. That post dealt with Freddie Roach's thoughts on the Margarito camp making light of their fighter's hand wrap controversy on "24/7."
Then I was watching some videos, and came across this one from Elie Seckbach. He goes into the Margarito camp to get thoughts from trainer Robert Garcia and Margarito about Roach's comments. What we get out of it is three professionals acting the fool and attempting to be funny, and sinking this fight's hype to a pathetic and brainless level.
The part early with Garcia continuing to make lame jokes about Margarito being caught loading his wraps is bad enough. But then you get about two minutes in, and Margarito and stablemate Brandon Rios decide the best way to fire back is to make fun of the fact that Roach has Parkinson's disease.
(Note: The following is the edited version of the video.)
Update (12:46pm EST): The edited version, officially uploaded by Elie Seckbach/FanHouse, has also been pulled.
Is there even a shred of class in that training camp? If they wanted to seal Margarito as the villain of the fight, I guess this was one way to do it, but realistically it just showcases him as a first-rate moron to go along with being a fighter a lot of people already have reservations about paying to see. And Rios shamefully jumps into the muck with the others, showing he can be just as dumb as they are. I guess maybe that makes him a big-time player now. He could have earned that with his all-action style, but now he's got more heavy bad press than good press, and that's a shame and all, but that's just the way it is now. The same could be said of Garcia, really. He's a former fighter, and a good one. He could have become a big-name trainer by continuing to guide the career of Rios and other up-and-comers, as well as leading Margarito's comeback. Instead, he's now known mostly for this and his stumbling performance at Margarito's California hearing this summer.
To stoop this low is... I don't want to call it unforgivable, but it shows you the level these guys are at, and I don't think that's something to slap your knee over. Margarito, Garcia and Rios show their true colors. Congrats, guys. Now people know who all of you are, and it's not for the right reasons.
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WOW
They took it down.
Way to own up, fellas.
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by Scott Christ on Nov 10, 2010 12:14 AM EST up reply actions
thanks
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by Scott Christ on Nov 10, 2010 12:20 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah just noticed that.
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by Scott Christ on Nov 10, 2010 12:22 AM EST up reply actions
I was looking for it but I didn’t find it. I saw one where Pacman makes fun of Margarito and says oh I’m not looking at my hands being wrapped, what are we Stupid.
Looking for what and didn’t find it? It’s right there in the post, and I also mentioned at the top that it has been heavily edited.
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by Scott Christ on Nov 10, 2010 12:36 AM EST up reply actions
Nope. They removed it.
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by Scott Christ on Nov 10, 2010 12:46 AM EST up reply actions
Karma's a bitch, Margo
and he’s been hit a lot, so let’s see if there’s any tremble in his hands or speech in a few years.
"Yes Gina, I am a Wise Cracker"
Not Cool
You know Sc I have seen that video before cause I go to Fanhouse everyday and watch the videos and I saw where they asked margarito how he feels and he tells Elli I feel Chingon. I am Actually very Suprised that Margarito made fun of Roach. and thats Nott Cool if he did. On Garcia making fun of the Handwrap Incident to me it’s not that Bad but we all are Entitled to our Own Opinion.
On Garcia making fun of the Handwrap Incident to me it’s not that Bad
Yeah, I just think it’s lame. I don’t think it’s the biggest deal in the world, either. Just lame. But I can at least see what the point of that is. There is no point to the Parkinson’s stuff at all.
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by Scott Christ on Nov 10, 2010 12:52 AM EST up reply actions
It's beyond lame
In my eyes, at least.
"All the time he's boxing, he's thinking. All the time he was thinking, I was hitting him." - Jack Dempsey
by Drunken cutman on Nov 10, 2010 4:02 PM EST up reply actions
doesnt surprise me at all
rios has become sort of a idiot to me anyway
i get it he wants to be the “mexican guy that fights and cusses and shit” and i guess it works for him but he looks stupid… as a mexican guy im kind of offended that he sees that as what “real mexicans” are…
marg.. doesnt surprise me at all cuz he is indeed the guy who wrapped his hands in plaster before a fight…
marg.. doesnt surprise me at all cuz he is indeed the guy who wrapped his hands in plaster before a fight…like sc said i dont mind the handwraps jokes but they are getting old.. fast.. the concrete block was kinda funny on 24/7 cuz marg covering his eyes.. past that its sorta like “we get it”
marg.. doesnt surprise me at all cuz he is indeed the guy who wrapped his hands in plaster before a fight…like sc said i dont mind the handwraps jokes but they are getting old.. fast.. the concrete block was kinda funny on 24/7 cuz marg covering his eyes.. past that its sorta like “we get it”overall these guys are being successful at making themselves look like idiots
on the other side im tired of manny’s camp saying “o my god the camp is going SOOO bad” im ready for this fight to be over..
"After this, I'm gonna kick Bob Arum's ass."
-George Lopez
on the other side im tired of manny’s camp saying "o my god the camp is going SOOO bad"
Oh God, do I hear that.
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by Scott Christ on Nov 10, 2010 1:12 AM EST up reply actions
Here it is:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WPNkNHo7OwM&feature=youtu.be
"Yes Gina, I am a Wise Cracker"
pretty low down … i’m still not hyped for this fight and never was. i started warming up a little this weekend after watching some good action back in the ring. watching that really reminds me why i never wanted this fight to take place in the first place. margarito doesnt deserve this opportunity …. arum but especially roach and pac should be ashamed for giving this ‘attempted murder’ his career high payday
Yeah, ya can’t teach class. I’m expecting to see that look of despair in Margo’s eyes around the 4th or 5th.
"Anytime you go thirty rounds with a guy, try to kill each other, and have the utmost respect for each other, no one understands that, but guys who have been to war understand it." - Micky Ward on Arturo Gatti.
All publicity is good right?
Remember when KG called some guy without hair a cancer patient and how many people talked about it?
If this clip is circulated some more, could it translate into some more views for the fight? Probably.
This is the worst way to drum up interest for a fight, but thats all these guys seem to care about with this sham of a fight.
OK, it's despicable and repugnant...
What will be done about it? Are people going to boycott the fight now and not subsidize this behavior, or will it just increase sales as people turn in to root against Margarito as the heel? And won’t that just encourage this kind of behavior in the future (along with further turning Pacquiao into a white knight by the public, no matter what the truth is)? This sucks and is disgraceful, but what stops it?
I’m on record with my sig from a few months back! I stand by it more than ever! (And, Pacman, please KO him… not by decision, just make him quit)
Officially boycotting Pacquiao vs. Margarito.
Fire Steve Addazio.
Wasn't buying it anyway...
…but man that’s low class. It’s Mayweather-racist-web-camera low class. Margarito deserves an ass whooping but he doesn’t deserve a spotlight and a boatload of cash to get it.
Maybe so, but a certain big on-line boxing site allows its posters to make fun of Freddie's malady and that's
precisely why I quit writing there, If anyone ever wants to see the post that broke the camel’s back for me, just let me know and I’ll be glad to send it to you.
Ted
Would this be the same site that would delete completely non offensive posts while blatently choosing to ignore rude, crude, homophbic, threatening, belittling, offensive, nasty, aggresive and insulting posts, by any chance?
I woke up this morning thinking there was no way I could hate Margarito more at the end of the day.
But I have family members with Parkinson’s, so live and learn.
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by The Kittitas Kid on Nov 10, 2010 11:46 AM EST reply actions
I wanna hear what arum has to say. He’s the one who brought marg back and given him a huge pay check for this fight.
Apparently
Arum has no concept of morality, or ethics.
"All the time he's boxing, he's thinking. All the time he was thinking, I was hitting him." - Jack Dempsey
by Drunken cutman on Nov 10, 2010 4:03 PM EST up reply actions
He doesn’t. But I don’t dislike him as much as some. He’s a snake, but he’s at least competent at what he does and predictable in his actions, which is better than many of his peers. He’s not unlike his old rival Don King, except I don’t think he’s as bad because he doesn’t break laws. He’s a cheapskate toward his fighters but he doesn’t defraud them.
If this is true,
Then I hope Manny makes these idiots pay. Thing is it’s what Manny could do to Margo, that Freddie Roach may have taken too much of.
Cheato and his lowlife buddies
just re-confirming what i and i think most people already knew.
They are scum.
Hope Manny gives him a hiding even worse than the one he took off Mosley.
Isn't it interesting that the Mayweather thread has only 7 posts. What a difference two months make!
The officially-uploaded edited video is down now, too. I guess they couldn’t fool enough people into thinking Margarito wasn’t a lowlife and enough people were able to see the unedited version anyway. I assume they’ll go after getting the unedited version that was uploaded by someone else pulled, and from a copyright standpoint I understand that (it’s their material), but this just reeks of cowardice from the involved parties. And to be clear, I don’t blame Elie Seckbach or AOL FanHouse for any of this — not that it happened, not that it was edited, not that it has been pulled.
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For what it's worth...
I entirely blame AOL for releasing an edited version that “protects” the camp. They have no reason to do so, and it’s pure cowardice on their part.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Nov 10, 2010 2:16 PM EST up reply actions
To be clear...
if they want to pull the video. That’s fine. But my issue is with recutting the footage to change the entire meaning of what was done/said to protect a camp that they are not a part of. That’s not being a part of the media…that’s being a camp schill.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Nov 10, 2010 2:26 PM EST up reply actions
Yes
Very poor jorunalism, really.
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by Drunken cutman on Nov 10, 2010 4:04 PM EST up reply actions
I can see that viewpoint, actually. And I do really like FanHouse’s boxing coverage. I think they do some of the best work out there. Constantly updated, very timely, very good coverage. Lem Satterfield is a fine, underrated reporter, and Elie Seckbach has tons and tons of videos. This is, to my knowledge, not a regular thing for them or anything like that.
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by Scott Christ on Nov 10, 2010 4:20 PM EST up reply actions
My thoughts
Garcia and Margo are trying to play mind games (pun unintended) with Freddie but are just really bad at it. Freddie always does invite the other team to play mind games since he really does get involved with them, but this incident isn’t really mind games, its just poor form.
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agreed
The post below this one (right before I saw this video) dealt with all the smack talk that Roach always does. He invites the war of words. That I have no problem with. But eventually the war of words can be despicable if you go too far. These guys went too far — or, rather, too low.
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by Scott Christ on Nov 10, 2010 2:14 PM EST up reply actions
'its just poor form'
not to jump on you or anything, but thats a pretty mild way of putting it. I don’t know how they can sink lower than that, thats an indescribably bad thing to do (head shaking)
I hated every minute of training, but I said, ‘’Don’t quit. Suffer now and live the rest of your life as a champion.'’ (Bernard Hopkins)
These guys are nott exactly candidates for awarness or sensitivity stuff. They lack that kind of sophistication
and coaching so when allowed to talk, almost anything can come out. Very sad, and still another indication that some kind of boxing mentor is not around. Garcia certainly isn’t the type.
I understand that
its really very sad they can behave like that, really.
I hated every minute of training, but I said, ‘’Don’t quit. Suffer now and live the rest of your life as a champion.'’ (Bernard Hopkins)
Hmm. Yes it is sad, but it's a reality, Brian. And I hate to say that about some of my fellow Americans.
Of course, this is taking place in the southwest and right now, there are some - how shall I say- issues that don’t necessarily reflect great values. But even there, there is a 50-50 split. Interesting stuff from a macro-standpoint. I feel your sadness, mate.
It occurs to me that something else may be at play here. My information indicates that attendance forecasts are way off. Maybe this is a last minute collusive effort to hype the ticket sales. After all, it IS all about money.
but
thats such a turn-off?! Thats such a vile nauseating thing to do…unless the aim is ‘lets get more people tune in to see my ass get kicked’ – but then many people might rather not watch him at all, after that.
I mean, before there was some wriggle room – ‘maybe he didn’t know what was being put in his gloves’ etc – but this….
I hated every minute of training, but I said, ‘’Don’t quit. Suffer now and live the rest of your life as a champion.'’ (Bernard Hopkins)
I actually came across the video through Philboxing.com and was about to pass it along to you guys. But when I logged on here you guys already had it up. Boy, you guys are quick…
Anyway, I tend to agree with Waldo here. I think they (Camp Margacheato) think they’re just playing Roach’s game. Am I appalled at the depths they’ve sunk here? I hate to say it, but no. Maybe a little with Robert Garcia because he strikes me as one of the sport’s good guys. I’m willing to chalk it up to a lapse in good judgment on his part. Rios and Margarito, well, they’re just thugs, and have been thugs from day 1. I’m pretty sure they were the kids that smacked sandwiches out of other kids’ hands for a laugh or straight up just beat them for their lunch money.
That being said, I DO think Roach himself ought not to be surprised. He freely admits playing mind games with people, with opposing camps in particular. Roach is a veteran, a lifelong member of the boxing fraternity, and therefore knows that, sadly, other members of said fraternity aren’t exactly known for their “sensitivity” regarding well, whatever. Their mindset is, and always will be defined by the nature of the trade. They are competitors, but more than that, they are warriors. They will not, at the end of the day, be governed by a set of principles that effect “class.” When threatened, when provoked, they will hit back—hard. I’m not defending them or anything. I’m just saying that I think Roach has to have known that this would come one day…
Well said. Christ Roach even said at one time he felytsorry for Margo.Not he is aclling him guilty of manslaughter r some such crap. So he is playing his usual and very predictable mindgame.
Thing is, Rios and Margo are novices at this stuff, while Roach belongs in the Mind Game Player Hall of Fame.
Right! Just get those PPV booked and those tickets sold. Time is running out.
They show the video and then quickly erase it. It’s a tease. They get us all interested and heated up. Then we call our cable TV provider and book the fight on PPV. Do I have to spell this out?
Nothing about boxing in Texas would surprise me, really.
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by Scott Christ on Nov 10, 2010 4:22 PM EST up reply actions
Only thing that’s surprised me in that regard is they gave the Pacquiao-Clottey job to the more qualified Rafael Ramos.
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by Scott Christ on Nov 10, 2010 4:23 PM EST up reply actions
CLOSED THREAD
No one did a thing wrong here, but we’ve got two newer posts on this subject, and I just don’t want to keep jogging around through three posts.
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