Mandatory Eight Count - Khan Afterglow Edition
by Brickhaus on Dec 14, 2010 10:19 AM EST
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Who's next for Khan? | Sky Sports
Skysports.com explores the possibilities for Amir Khan's next fight after his win in Las Vegas. Possibilities they look at include Floyd Mayweather Jr., Devon Alexander, Timothy Bradley and a Marcos Maidana rematch. While I'm sure Khan's team would love to build on the momentum of this fight, I'm not sure they want him out of the ring for so long. Any of those guys for his next fight means he's out of the ring until late April at the earliest, and with Ramadan affecting Khan's schedule, that would make him a two fight a year fighter. While everyone thinks it is in Khan's best interest to have another high profile Vegas fight next, don't be too surprised if he takes it back home for his next fight in a domestic scrap against someone like Paul McCloskey, to stay busy as much as anything.
Team Maidana Statement | Fight News
While Maidana was a bit curt with Larry Merchant on Saturday night, he spoke a bit more the next day, stating that he thought "it was a hell of a fight" and that Khan proved that he could take a punch. He was, however, disappointed with Joe Cortez's refereeing job, and especially with a seemingly unnecessary point deduction that led to a unanimous decision rather than a split decision. Maidana says he'll be looking to take a fight or two in Argentina before heading back to the U.S. for another big fight.
Bradley talks about Amir Khan and his upcoming bout with Alexander | YouTube
Bradley said he was impressed by the way he was able to stay standing under fire, and that he didn't think that Khan would be able to take that kind of punishment. Bradley also said that if he beats Devon Alexander, he wants to make a fight with Khan, and that he still sees a lot of flaws in Khan's game that he thinks he can exploit by using better head movement and the like.
Amir Khan tipped for glory by Oscar De La Hoya | mirror.co.uk
Oscar De La Hoya claims Amir Khan can be as big as Ricky Hatton. He then goes on to compare Khan's charisma to Hatton's, which is a little ridiculous. Of course, as Khan's promoter, he is also campaigning for Khan-Maidana to be the fight of the year as well.
Khan takes it on the chin | BBC Sport
Mike Costello takes a look at four factors that may have led to increased punch resistance by Amir Khan. Obviously, one big winner this weekend was Amir Khan's chin, which obviously isn't as horrible as many people thought it was. Along the same lines, many are calling for Khan to rematch Breidis Prescott, who knocked out Khan in the first round a couple years ago. Since then, Prescott, has proven himself to be a pretty mediocre fighter, to say the least, but it seems that there is still enough interest to at least make it a legitimate option.
Sergio Martinez-Sebastian Zbik Likely For March, Miguel Cotto Next | Boxing FanHouse
Lem Satterfield had a conversation with Sergio Martinez's primary promoter Sampson Lewkowicz, who stated that Martinez's likely next move would be to face mandatory Sebastian Zbik on HBO in March. Miguel Cotto's legal advisor also said he will be fighting on the same date of March 12 (possibly against Vanes Martirosyan, Cornelius Bundrage or Pawel Wolak), leading to speculation of an HBO double-header and a possible fight between the two later in the year.
Donaire plans climb to super bantamweight after Montiel fight | ABS-CBN News
Boxing champion Nonito "The Filipino Flash" Donaire Jr. is planning to climb another weight class once he gets past world bantamweight champion Fernando Montiel of Mexico. He seems to be trying to follow in the footsteps of another prominent Pinoy fighter you might have heard of, Manny Pacquiao, bouncing up weight classes fairly quickly. Should he beat Montiel, he will have won at least an interim title in his third weight class. While Donaire is officially listed at only 5'6", he's obviously much taller than that, and he shouldn't have many problems moving up to a relatively weak super bantamweight class. The biggest issue is that there are so many great fights that could be made at 118, if he chooses to stay there, and it's a shame that he appears to be taking the easy way out by moving to a weight class with no other fighters of note.
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I think Maidana has good PR people because “in person” he seems to be rough and curt, but in most of his press releases he sounds quite affable and classy.
Fire Steve Addazio
I will not buy any PPV promoted by Bob Arum.
Yeah, kind of hard to square away
the guy who throws a bomb at Khan when Amir was trying to touch gloves at the outset of the fight with some of the stuff that comes out in the interviews. Dude just seems straight up MEAN (which frankly, is nice quality in a boxer, IMO).
by The Boxer Rebellion on Dec 14, 2010 5:12 PM EST up reply actions
I'm going to go out on a limb
…and guess that Eminem will not, in fact, be afraid.
by The Boxer Rebellion on Dec 14, 2010 10:41 AM EST via mobile reply actions
The movie's being written by the writer of Sons of Anarchy
For whatever that’s worth. I haven’t really watched much of the show, so I can’t really comment.
Bad Left Hook - The SB Nation boxing blog
"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
My wife likes thtat show but I don't.
I don't take personal insults well. My wires are such so that when it happens, i'm not going to put on head gear, lace up the gloves and put in the mouthpiece. I'm going to drop the gloves and just let the adrenaline take off.
F/X seems to specialize in polarizing shows
I’m interested in seeing the new one though. And I’m still a big fan of Sunny, even if the comedic value has become completely uneven. This year, there have been a few episodes that were completely unfunny, but a few others (e.g. Lethal Weapon 5) that were as funny as anything they’ve ever done.
Bad Left Hook - The SB Nation boxing blog
"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
Sunny, Dexter, Top Chef, Breaking Bad, Burn Notice
I’m not too far off the mainstream grid when it comes to TV, and while I catch as much boxing as I can, I only have about an hour a day to watch TV between work and everything else.
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"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
oh, and 30 Rock
Bad Left Hook - The SB Nation boxing blog
"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
I can’t get into it, either.
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
by Scott Christ on Dec 14, 2010 6:10 PM EST up reply actions
He may not be afraid, but will he lose himself?
Such were the days, still, hot, heavy, disappearing one by one into the past, as if falling into an abyss for ever open in the wake of the ship; and the ship, lonely under a wisp of smoke, held on her steadwast way black and smouldering in a luminous immensity, as if scorched by a flame flicked at her from a heaven without pity.
by Oli Goldstein on Dec 14, 2010 1:08 PM EST up reply actions
I don’t want to be negative, but this Cotto/Martinez fight seems very far away. If Cotto beats Margarito, and that’s not a given at all, he might not be ready to fight a strong champion in his peak like Martinez by August or September.
Fire Steve Addazio
I will not buy any PPV promoted by Bob Arum.
I guess they're doing what they can to set up SOME big fight down the line
There just isn’t a whole lot available at 160, and that’s the only place where he has leverage.
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"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
I’m pretty sure that if they had not have taken a point off Maidana,the result would still have been a majority decision,not a split.
The best Maidana would have got is a draw on one card while losing the other two.
Would still be a close fight though,which it was anyway,although there was no doubt as to who the winner was,imo..
by Matt Mosley on Dec 14, 2010 11:58 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah, I always get split and majority mixed up
But at the end of the day, I don’t feel like the difference is consequential enough to spend time editing the post.
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"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
I was just starting to appreciate Khan.
Then he said that Maidana never hurt him. And I badly, badly want a rematch.
Queer street is right.
I don't take personal insults well. My wires are such so that when it happens, i'm not going to put on head gear, lace up the gloves and put in the mouthpiece. I'm going to drop the gloves and just let the adrenaline take off.
To be fair in that link
There was never a quote saying he wasn’t hurt. And in his interveiw he said he was hurt so I would just dismiss that shit
by Sweet science on Dec 14, 2010 3:41 PM EST up reply actions
I've never seen a fight
Where one fighter outboxed the other one, but the outboxed fighter nearly won by knockout, where the outboxed fighter won the rematch. Or at least I can’t think of one. I can think of quite a few of them where the better boxer won more convincingly though (e.g., Bute-Andrade, John-Juarez, etc.)
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"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
Agree
Plus, I just don’t see a ton of upside in Khan rematching Maidana when he can take extremely credible, and lucrative fights against the Bradley-Alexander winner, JMM, etc. etc. without having to take such a serious risk of getting KTFO. If he wins, well, he was supposed to, if he loses, the KHAN HAS NO CHIN crowd gets another five years worth of material. BTW, I was a member of that crowd, but when you eat a round full of power shots from Maidana, you need to change your tune in a hurry.
by The Boxer Rebellion on Dec 14, 2010 5:06 PM EST up reply actions
and
I want to see MM take on some other guys at 140 — there are plenty of good options. I genuinely think he has a chance to be the best guy at the weight class other than Khan, and there’s very little doubt that Khan’s going to head to 147 reasonably soon, so he’s got a real shot to be the man at 140 for some period of time once that happens.
by The Boxer Rebellion on Dec 14, 2010 5:10 PM EST up reply actions
I agree, but Maidana does have some serious work to do on ironing out some flaws before that happens.
Leading with the jab rather than his face, for example. Body work early, and not throwing himself into his shots quite as much if he isn’t sure they’ll land. I say all this asa massive fan of Maidana, too.
Maidana 2010 vs Hatton 2005 would have been one hell of a fight…..
Most fight fans would not spend a dime to watch Van Gogh paint 'Sunflowers', but they would fill Yankee Stadium to see him cut off his ear. (Bill Nack)
I got the feeling
If he had given himself more space, he may have been able to stop Khan in the tenth. He appeared to smother his own work, almost allowing AK to hold and recover
Yeah
That lunging in while throwing thing is a sign of, dare I say it, desperation. I never had Maidana confused with Thomas Hearns, but I had faith in his ability to throw shots without completely throwing himself off balance while he was doing so.
Had he jabbed, used body work outside a bit more, and waited for the right time to throw the deadly shot, rather than throwing first and afterward hoping that said time had indeed come, purely by accident, then he would have stopped Khan, of that I have no doubt.
As it was, I think Joe Cortez screwed the pooch, but not as much as Maidana did. Cortez jumped in and gavce Khan time every time he feasibly could, but Maidana certainly made that part of his job easy for him.
LUNGE-swing-grab-try belatedly to infight while Kahn is holding tighter than a nun’s chuff-rinse-repeat was not the way to prevetn cortez from having a massive influence on the fight. “Feint-throw jab-move in-throw straight right hand followed by a left to the body” might have done the job, especially since this would almost certainly have prevented what I now like to call the ‘Cortez Factor’, which I still maintain was a bigger factor in the Hatton/Mayweather and Hopkins/Calzaghe fights than is readily admitted, and was also a massive factor it who won the fight between Khan and Maidana.
To put it another way, I feel that despite the fact this fight went to the cards, I think Joe Cortez had an impact at least 20 times as great as any of the judges on who came out of that fight with their hand raised, and that can’t be right.
Most fight fans would not spend a dime to watch Van Gogh paint 'Sunflowers', but they would fill Yankee Stadium to see him cut off his ear. (Bill Nack)
Funnily enough
I didn’t really notice just how much he stepped in ‘till re watched it. It was pretty blatant too. Still, had MM used a slicker offence, Cortez’ involvement may well have been to count Khan out. But ‘ifs’ and ’maybes’mean nothing.
I think we're on the same page... :)
As it was, I think Joe Cortez screwed the pooch, but not as much as Maidana did.
Most fight fans would not spend a dime to watch Van Gogh paint 'Sunflowers', but they would fill Yankee Stadium to see him cut off his ear. (Bill Nack)
Imagine how vindicated Hatton must feel
When he is not otherwise trying to forget his Inability to overwhelm and his loss to Mayweather. I mean after all Cortez had no intention in that fight of letting Ricky have his way.
Not that I think it would have mattered in the end…..as Cortez had nothing to do with Floyd nailing him with rights straight to his head.
I also rewatched the Khan MM fight and it was very close.
If styles make fights, then you can also say they make decisions.
Depending on which style you prefer, an honest judge could have called it in either man’s favor.
I thought Hearns won the second Leonard fight, and that would have qualified
/clutches at straws….
Most fight fans would not spend a dime to watch Van Gogh paint 'Sunflowers', but they would fill Yankee Stadium to see him cut off his ear. (Bill Nack)
I don't read much into it
Typical boxer bravado. Roach was quoted as saying he almost threw in the towel in the 10th; I think he’s got a pretty good read on whether his fighter was hurt.
by The Boxer Rebellion on Dec 14, 2010 5:03 PM EST up reply actions
Where is that quote, if you don't mind posting a link?
Most fight fans would not spend a dime to watch Van Gogh paint 'Sunflowers', but they would fill Yankee Stadium to see him cut off his ear. (Bill Nack)
That doesn't always tell the whole story though
I remember after Kessler-Andrade, where Kessler shut him out and Andrade probably ate 200 right hands straight in the mouth, at the end of the fight Kessler was all marked up and looked like he had just gone to war, while Andrade looked like he had just gone for a nice swim.
Bad Left Hook - The SB Nation boxing blog
"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
Brick, I realise that that :-) what I was pointing out was whether or not Khan said he was (or wasn’t) hurt, we could ‘see’ he’d been in a fight, a damn fine one too!
I’m chuffed to bits for him… he did really well. I rewatched rd 10 earlier and he took some doozies flush on the old Vera Lynn.
Khan ate a years worth of uppercuts.
How and why he did it…in other words why he didn’t have any answers for them….I don’t know. but MM launched fast double hooks and double uppercuts right down the middle.and landed hard.
Of course he was hurt. But other than Pacquiao, how many guys ever admit it.
BTW, Pacquiao’s next bout appears to be moved back to May….and Roach is very happy.
The reason: He was serious hurt in the ribs by Margarito…and could use the extra time to heal.
And who says Margarito isn’t a beast?
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