Saturday Global Boxing Results: Pascal and Hopkins Draw, Huck Survives Lebedev, Morales and Arce Win
by Scott Christ on Dec 19, 2010 3:30 AM EST
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Quebec City, Quebec, Canada
- Jean Pascal D-12 Bernard Hopkins: I am seeing nobody who feels that Hopkins deserved anything less than a win, with the closest score being 114-112, meaning that if you count two 10-8 rounds for Pascal, Bernard won eight of 12 rounds at least to everyone. Our full recap, including some post-fight controversy about the scoring, is here.
- Paul Malignaggi TKO-6 Michael Lozada, Daniel Jacobs TKO-5 Jesse Orta, Peter Quillin KO-1 Martin Desjardins, Tyson Fury UD-8 Zack Page, Kevin Bizier TKO-3 Ronnie Warrior Jr.
Berlin, Germany
- Marco Huck SD-12 Denis Lebedev: Brick had a full recap of this fight and the undercard earlier, calling the Huck win not a robbery, but a definite hometown decision.
- Yoan Pablo Hernandez KO-1 Ali Ismailov: Hernandez (23-1, 12 KO) is now the mandatory challenger for the cruiserweight strap held by Guillermo Jones. Hold your breath waiting for that one.
- Alexander Povetkin UD-10 Nikolai Firtha: I have a hard time pretending I care about anything Povetkin (21-0, 15 KO) does at this stage. He's 31 years old and has been treading water for a year with crap fights. Maybe they're just waiting for the Klitschkos to retire, considering Povetkin has run with his tail between his legs from Wladimir twice and would rather face the likes of Firtha and Javier Mora than actually do anything meaningful, all under the guise of Teddy Atlas "improving him," like there's much that can be done with a 31-year-old, long-time amateur.
- Kubrat Pulev UD-8 Paolo Vidoz: Hell, I give Pulev (10-0, 5 KO) more credit for beating Vidoz than I do Povetkin for beating Firtha. Not that Pulev is on Povetkin's level; he's not. But that's kind of the problem I have.
- Francesco Pianeta KO-1 Mike Middleton: Nothing win for Pianeta (21-0-1, 13 KO), but it served a purpose as a comeback victory, given that Pianeta had been out of the ring for a year.
- Dustin Dirks UD-8 Alpay Kobal: Dirks improves to 18-0 (12 KO) with another easy win to close out 2010.
Tijuana, Mexico
- Erik Morales UD-12 Francisco Lorenzo: Scores were 116-111, 114-113 and 115-112 for Morales, who says he's now ready for Juan Manuel Marquez. The way Marquez looked in July and November compared to how Morales has looked in his comeback, I don't care what weight they fight at since neither of them are going to be naturals there either. Marquez will kill Morales. I'll buy the crummy pay-per-view because they're two of my favorite fighters, but that's not a close fight. This fight is reported to have been pretty good, though, like basically all Morales fights ever.
Campeche, Mexico
- Ramon Garcia Hirales UD-12 Omar Soto: Hirales (15-1-1, 8 KO) closes out a very successful 2010 with another win, keeping his interim WBO flyweight title. Soto finishes the year with an 0-3 mark to drop to 15-7-1 (6 KO).
- Jorge Arce TKO-1 Adolfo Ramos: Hey whaddaya know, Jorge Arce smoked another bum. Now his promoters can line him up for a slaughter against Wilfredo Vazquez Jr., since that's what Arce wants. Arce (56-6-2, 43 KO) is really not a good fighter at all anymore, to be blunt and totally honest about it, and he should retire, but he's not going to. He's 31 and sort of a physical wreck, but he's an old school guy despite the lollipops and the silliness. He'll be fighting forever, or until he can't.
- Jorge Lacierva UD-10 Joksan Hernandez: Sad end to the year for BLH semi-favorite Hernandez (21-3, 14 KO), who loses to Lacierva (38-7-6, 26 KO). Hernandez fought six times this year, going 4-2.
Mar del Plata, Argentina
- Luis Alberto Lazarte D-12 Ulises Solis: Lazarte would have won this by split decision had he not been deducted two points for fouls, leading to two 113-113 cards. The third card was 117-109 for Solis, so...you know. You take your guesses.
- Rodolfo Ezequiel Martinez UD-12 Mariano Abel Robledo: Martinez (39-4-1, 15 KO) is probably best known as the guy who got a completely undeserved IBF welterweight title shot at Jan Zaveck in April and then actually took it into the 12th round before being stopped.
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My understanding is the former
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It is bad when Bernard Hopkins gets robbed at this late stage of his career. When you fight in the other guys home town or country you always take a chance on getting robbed. A rematch is in order and with in the next 4 months, I hope. Best wishes to Bernard from the Lone Star State.
hey, what happened to Jorge Barrios?
I thought Erik Morales is fighting him?
He wasn’t allowed to leave the country after running over a pregnant woman earlier in the year.
Still searching for an alive Dan Tucker.
oh
that sucks. for Barrios, at least. thanks for the info
by garapataman on Dec 19, 2010 10:33 AM EST up reply actions
Well, and the pregnant woman that got killed.
Still searching for an alive Dan Tucker.
by Dafs on Dec 19, 2010 11:17 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
That's what I was thinking.
Kinda sucks for her a whole bunch more.
Such were the days, still, hot, heavy, disappearing one by one into the past, as if falling into an abyss for ever open in the wake of the ship; and the ship, lonely under a wisp of smoke, held on her steadwast way black and smouldering in a luminous immensity, as if scorched by a flame flicked at her from a heaven without pity.
by Oli Goldstein on Dec 20, 2010 4:34 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Luis Alberto Lazarte 48-9-2
Lazarte is 39 as well, he beat Tamara and should have beat Solis, and I would like to see my fellow countrymen Roman Gonzales fight Lazarte.
by 36_chambers_ofdeatH on Dec 19, 2010 1:48 PM EST reply actions
Hopkins didn’t get robbed, let’s put an end to this. Pascal had the two knockdowns and was landing counter punches all along. He won the last round for sure beating Hopkins with counters. Yes, there were several rounds where Hopkins took it on work rate, but those weren’t as many as some will say. I had Pascal up by a point btw, but a close Hopkins decision would’ve been fine or a draw as it was.
Hmmm. Well, you’re about the only single person in existence who had Pascal up by a point, and about the only person who had Pascal winning the final round. Counter punches? Really?
I’m not a huge advocate for statistics in boxing – namely, because in fights like Pascal-Dawson, they don’t tell the “whole truth” – but, if you check out the Compubox numbers, this is a fight where they aren’t lying. Bernard greatly out-threw and greatly out-landed Pascal. How on earth you can see the fight for Pascal really quite begs belief.
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by Oli Goldstein on Dec 20, 2010 4:33 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Antonio Tarver had Pascal winning 114-112, too.
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by Scott Christ on Dec 20, 2010 1:59 PM EST up reply actions
Antonio Tarver had Allan Green beating Glen Johnson, if memory serves me right. Not much of a Hopkins fan too, I assume.
(But, begrudgingly, point taken.)
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by Oli Goldstein on Dec 20, 2010 2:44 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
No, I agree. I just wanted to point out the one guy I saw within boxing that had Pascal winning.
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by Scott Christ on Dec 20, 2010 7:30 PM EST up reply actions
Hmmm.
I like Antonio, but he’s becoming quite contentious when dealing with fights involving past opponents. Fortunately, they’ll all be retired sooner rather than later, and we won’t have to put up with any obvious bias, but still. Green over Johnson and Pascal over Hopkins is frankly ridiculous.
Such were the days, still, hot, heavy, disappearing one by one into the past, as if falling into an abyss for ever open in the wake of the ship; and the ship, lonely under a wisp of smoke, held on her steadwast way black and smouldering in a luminous immensity, as if scorched by a flame flicked at her from a heaven without pity.
by Oli Goldstein on Dec 20, 2010 8:07 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Green leading Johnson was an absurd idea, but having Pascal up 114-112 doesn’t terribly shock me, I suppose. I think it’s a flawed opinion, though. Or just wrong.
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by Scott Christ on Dec 21, 2010 10:47 PM EST up reply actions
To further your point, effective counter-punching causes an opponent to decrease the total number of punches not decrease. This point is clearly seen in the number of punches Mosley threw versus Margo and versus Mayweather. Margo has no defense while Mayweather is a counter-punching genius and you can see Mosley’s numbers drop like a cheerleader’s dress on prom night.
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by Waldo Rastel on Dec 20, 2010 8:38 PM EST up reply actions
Solis got screwed against Lazarte. Ugly fight there he clearly outboxed the older title holder in spite of being fouled almost constantly. In the US, Lazarte loses by DQ in the 6th or 7th.
Solis did get joshed.
I saw the fight again, Solis really won, I must of not payed attention the first time cause Solis did win. All this does make Pongsaklek Wonjongkam look great because he did knock out Lazarte in the first or second round.
by 36_chambers_ofdeatH on Dec 23, 2010 2:00 PM EST reply actions
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